On 10/16/10 2:06 PM, YukonBound wrote:


"Harry®" wrote in message
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On 10/15/10 1:24 PM, John H wrote:
Should I, or should I not? I've about decided that diesel pickups
are too
damn
expensive. I'm looking pretty seriously at this:

http://tinyurl.com/27ehnzo

Any comments? Any experience with this beast? Consumer Reports
gives it a
great
rating, and the damn thing will tow over 10K pounds.

Definitely. It makes perfect sense to spend $34,000 on a used truck
three
model years old and pay $700 more to get it here. Go for it!

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Not to mention it's only a 2WD model.
If I was going that deep in the hole.... especially for a used truck, it
would be 4WD


And what would A RAV 4 grocery hauler station wagon driver know about
trucks?

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Duh..... I only bought the RAV4 18 months ago after the lease on my Ford
Ranger 2WD expired.
After driving front wheel drive vehicles since 1984...... that truck
made me nervous in the snow.
The rear end sure liked to jump out..... I had 100 lbs of bagged sand in
the bed although I only had the original equipment all season tires.


What would an ID spoofing moron who lives in Florida or Georgia know
about snow?

We had a significant amount of snow here last winter. I was very glad we
had a 4WD vehicle in our "stable."
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I'd be nervous of him
handling anything that big towing a travel trailer larger than his current
one.

Well, I'm sure John has driven an M35-A2 Oshkosh down places that
wern't considered a road before.

Pulling a truck and a camper or boat should be a breeze.

On 10/16/10 3:22 PM, Tim wrote:


I'd be nervous of him
handling anything that big towing a travel trailer larger than his current
one.

Well, I'm sure John has driven an M35-A2 Oshkosh down places that
wern't considered a road before.

Pulling a truck and a camper or boat should be a breeze.


Depends on the driver and the circumstances. I've seen large travel
trailers and large boats literally virtually jackknife on the road in
front of us when the driver swerved for one reason or another. In my
opinion, too many trailer towers drive too damned fast for conditions
and their abilities. 60-65 mph should be the legal limit when you are
towing a trailer and there should be a mandatory road safety course plus
a notation on your license before you can tow anything bigger than the
smallest trailer.
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Guns Don't Kill People -- Fundamentalist Religion Kills People!

On Oct 16, 2:30*pm, Secular Humouresque wrote:
On 10/16/10 3:22 PM, Tim wrote:



I'd be nervous of him
handling anything that big towing a travel trailer larger than his current
one.

Well, I'm sure John has driven an *M35-A2 *Oshkosh down places that
wern't considered a road before.

Pulling a truck and a camper or boat should be a breeze.

Depends on the driver and the circumstances. I've seen large travel
trailers and large boats literally virtually jackknife on the road in
front of us when the driver swerved for one reason or another. In my
opinion, too many trailer towers drive too damned fast for conditions
and their abilities. 60-65 mph should be the legal limit when you are
towing a trailer and there should be a mandatory road safety course plus
a notation on your license before you can tow anything bigger than the
smallest trailer.
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Guns Don't Kill People -- Fundamentalist Religion Kills People!

In Illinois the max speed for anything pulling a trailer is 60 mph. I
will agree that there are alot of simpletons out there who go too fast
on the interstates and demand too much out of their towing vehicle.

I blame that alot on the pick up builders advertizing outragous
pulling capacities with minimal safety equipment like... brakes.
especially on the trailer.

"Secular Humouresque" wrote in message
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On 10/16/10 2:06 PM, YukonBound wrote:


"Harry®" wrote in message
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"YukonBound" wrote in message
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"Secular Humouresque" wrote in message
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On 10/15/10 1:24 PM, John H wrote:
Should I, or should I not? I've about decided that diesel pickups
are too
damn
expensive. I'm looking pretty seriously at this:

http://tinyurl.com/27ehnzo

Any comments? Any experience with this beast? Consumer Reports
gives it a
great
rating, and the damn thing will tow over 10K pounds.

Definitely. It makes perfect sense to spend $34,000 on a used truck
three
model years old and pay $700 more to get it here. Go for it!

--


Not to mention it's only a 2WD model.
If I was going that deep in the hole.... especially for a used truck,
it
would be 4WD


And what would A RAV 4 grocery hauler station wagon driver know about
trucks?

--

Duh..... I only bought the RAV4 18 months ago after the lease on my Ford
Ranger 2WD expired.
After driving front wheel drive vehicles since 1984...... that truck
made me nervous in the snow.
The rear end sure liked to jump out..... I had 100 lbs of bagged sand in
the bed although I only had the original equipment all season tires.


What would an ID spoofing moron who lives in Florida or Georgia know about
snow?

We had a significant amount of snow here last winter. I was very glad we
had a 4WD vehicle in our "stable."
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The RAV4 works fine with all season tires. If we got a couple of heavy snow
years in a row I'd spend the $1k on four snow tires mounted on steel rims.

On 10/16/10 5:58 PM, YukonBound wrote:


"Secular Humouresque" wrote in message
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On 10/16/10 2:06 PM, YukonBound wrote:


"Harry®" wrote in message
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"YukonBound" wrote in message
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"Secular Humouresque" wrote in message
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On 10/15/10 1:24 PM, John H wrote:
Should I, or should I not? I've about decided that diesel pickups
are too
damn
expensive. I'm looking pretty seriously at this:

http://tinyurl.com/27ehnzo

Any comments? Any experience with this beast? Consumer Reports
gives it a
great
rating, and the damn thing will tow over 10K pounds.

Definitely. It makes perfect sense to spend $34,000 on a used truck
three
model years old and pay $700 more to get it here. Go for it!

--


Not to mention it's only a 2WD model.
If I was going that deep in the hole.... especially for a used
truck, it
would be 4WD


And what would A RAV 4 grocery hauler station wagon driver know about
trucks?

--

Duh..... I only bought the RAV4 18 months ago after the lease on my Ford
Ranger 2WD expired.
After driving front wheel drive vehicles since 1984...... that truck
made me nervous in the snow.
The rear end sure liked to jump out..... I had 100 lbs of bagged sand in
the bed although I only had the original equipment all season tires.


What would an ID spoofing moron who lives in Florida or Georgia know
about snow?

We had a significant amount of snow here last winter. I was very glad
we had a 4WD vehicle in our "stable."
--

The RAV4 works fine with all season tires. If we got a couple of heavy
snow years in a row I'd spend the $1k on four snow tires mounted on
steel rims.


After last year, I wouldn't be without a 4WD vehicle. We had several
significant snow storms. Now that I no longer need a tow vehicle to pull
a fairly heavy boat, I'm thinking of trading in my 4Runner for a compact
pickup truck with 4WD. Ford, GM and Toyota make nice vehicles in that
range.

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Guns Don't Kill People -- Fundamentalist Religion Kills People!

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In article 4625ff3e-6579-4bc5-8ef2-1478e91c8bc4
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On Oct 16, 2:30 pm, Secular Humouresque wrote:
On 10/16/10 3:22 PM, Tim wrote:



I'd be nervous of him
handling anything that big towing a travel trailer larger than his
current
one.

Well, I'm sure John has driven an M35-A2 Oshkosh down places that
wern't considered a road before.

Pulling a truck and a camper or boat should be a breeze.

Depends on the driver and the circumstances. I've seen large travel
trailers and large boats literally virtually jackknife on the road in
front of us when the driver swerved for one reason or another. In my
opinion, too many trailer towers drive too damned fast for conditions
and their abilities. 60-65 mph should be the legal limit when you are
towing a trailer and there should be a mandatory road safety course
plus
a notation on your license before you can tow anything bigger than the
smallest trailer.
--
Guns Don't Kill People -- Fundamentalist Religion Kills People!

In Illinois the max speed for anything pulling a trailer is 60 mph. I
will agree that there are alot of simpletons out there who go too fast
on the interstates and demand too much out of their towing vehicle.

I blame that alot on the pick up builders advertizing outragous
pulling capacities with minimal safety equipment like... brakes.
especially on the trailer.

What cracks me up is these 150 class trucks with massive bodies, set two
feet off the ground from the factory... As if the guy is gonna' go off
road, maybe if he backs over his neighbors rose garden snerk...

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I imagine you'd need a step ladder to haul yourself up to the cab on the
latest models.

On 10/16/10 7:01 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 16 Oct 2010 13:09:59 -0400, John
wrote:

If you are dunking your truck tires on a ramp you have a trailer
problem and 4wd is useless on ice. You end up losing all 4 wheels at
once and turns your vehicle into a hockey puck. It may be handy in
deep snow but that is not a huge problem around DC.

4WD isn't all that necessary around here, although it came in handy with all the
snow we had last winter. I did use my 4WD while in Utah. There are many roads
and trails off the beaten path where a 4WD comes in right handy.

Will I need it a lot? No. But, when I do, it'll be nice to have.
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Every once in a while I think it would be nice to have a back hoe too
;-)


I want a firetruck, too.

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Guns Don't Kill People -- Fundamentalist Religion Kills People!

On Sat, 16 Oct 2010 10:49:27 -0400, Harry®
wrote:

I'm just wondering how they pack all them horsies into 5.7L.

I'm guessing overhead cams and fuel injection.

On Sat, 16 Oct 2010 12:08:02 -0400, wrote:

If you are dunking your truck tires on a ramp you have a trailer
problem

A lot of ramps are wet and slippery making 4wd very useful with a
heavy boat. Usually 4wd comes with a low gear transfer case also.