On Dec 21, 6:34*am, Harryk wrote:
On 12/21/10 7:28 AM, Tim wrote:

On Dec 21, 6:14 am, *wrote:
On 12/21/10 6:58 AM, Tim wrote:

Here, if your'e gonna mock religion especially Christianity, and those
who may believe in God the Creator, and Creation theology,then make it
worth your while...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ah7bj...eature=related

If only there were something more than superstition, *especially* the
beliefs that man was "created" about 10,000 years ago, or that every
phrase in "the bible" should be taken literally.

For an unbeliever whats it matter anyhow?

It matters because those who believe that myth try to force it and many
other religious superstitions onto my society.

And who started this thread and under what pretense?

I don't give a damn what the "creationists" believe, so long as they
keep their beliefs in their churches, in their homes, in their religious
schools. I don't want to see that crap (and it is crap) in public school
textbooks or being "taught" in public schools, or being pushed onto
society in general.

Sure you do.


My suspicion is that overly religious christians are made nervous by
those who don't believe as they do and, like "the Borg," they feel a
need to assimilate everyone.

I'm not bothered by your beliefs Harry, but something makes me feel
like you're really bothered about mine...

?;^ )

On 12/21/10 7:40 AM, Tim wrote:
On Dec 21, 6:34 am, wrote:
On 12/21/10 7:28 AM, Tim wrote:

On Dec 21, 6:14 am, wrote:
On 12/21/10 6:58 AM, Tim wrote:

Here, if your'e gonna mock religion especially Christianity, and those
who may believe in God the Creator, and Creation theology,then make it
worth your while...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ah7bj...eature=related

If only there were something more than superstition, *especially* the
beliefs that man was "created" about 10,000 years ago, or that every
phrase in "the bible" should be taken literally.

For an unbeliever whats it matter anyhow?

It matters because those who believe that myth try to force it and many
other religious superstitions onto my society.

And who started this thread and under what pretense?

I don't give a damn what the "creationists" believe, so long as they
keep their beliefs in their churches, in their homes, in their religious
schools. I don't want to see that crap (and it is crap) in public school
textbooks or being "taught" in public schools, or being pushed onto
society in general.

Sure you do.


My suspicion is that overly religious christians are made nervous by
those who don't believe as they do and, like "the Borg," they feel a
need to assimilate everyone.

I'm not bothered by your beliefs Harry, but something makes me feel
like you're really bothered about mine...

?;^ )



Your religious beliefs are not my concern, *unless* you try to push them
onto our non-religious, non-sectarian society and non-religious
government. And by "you," I don't mean "you," necessarily. It's not my
business if you believe in "creationism," so long as you make no efforts
to push that belief into the public schools and other venues where
anyone's religious beliefs have no place.

I wouldn't raise a finger to try to talk you out of your religious
beliefs. You are entitled to your beliefs, and you are entitled to share
them with your co-religionists, your family, your church, and your
church schools. Further, I appreciate your "christian efforts" to reach
out to those in need and I applaud you and your religion when it does
that. The more an individual does to help others who are in need, the
closer he or she is to the teachings of your saviour.

On Dec 21, 6:50*am, Harryk wrote:
On 12/21/10 7:40 AM, Tim wrote:



On Dec 21, 6:34 am, *wrote:
On 12/21/10 7:28 AM, Tim wrote:

On Dec 21, 6:14 am, * *wrote:
On 12/21/10 6:58 AM, Tim wrote:

Here, if your'e gonna mock religion especially Christianity, and those
who may believe in God the Creator, and Creation theology,then make it
worth your while...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ah7bj...eature=related

If only there were something more than superstition, *especially* the
beliefs that man was "created" about 10,000 years ago, or that every
phrase in "the bible" should be taken literally.

For an unbeliever whats it matter anyhow?

It matters because those who believe that myth try to force it and many
other religious superstitions onto my society.

And who started this thread and under what pretense?

I don't give a damn what the "creationists" believe, so long as they
keep their beliefs in their churches, in their homes, in their religious
schools. I don't want to see that crap (and it is crap) in public school
textbooks or being "taught" in public schools, or being pushed onto
society in general.

Sure you do.

My suspicion is that overly religious christians are made nervous by
those who don't believe as they do and, like "the Borg," they feel a
need to assimilate everyone.

I'm not bothered by your beliefs Harry, but something makes me feel
like you're really bothered about mine...

?;^ )

Your religious beliefs are not my concern, *unless* you try to push them
onto our non-religious, non-sectarian society and non-religious
government. And by "you," I don't mean "you," necessarily. It's not my
business if you believe in "creationism," so long as you make no efforts
to push that belief into the public schools and other venues where
anyone's religious beliefs have no place.

I wouldn't raise a finger to try to talk you out of your religious
beliefs. You are entitled to your beliefs, and you are entitled to share
them with your co-religionists, your family, your church, and your
church schools. Further, I appreciate your "christian efforts" to reach
out to those in need and I applaud you and your religion when it does
that. The more an individual does to help others who are in need, the
closer he or she is to the teachings of your saviour.

I appreciate the thoughts Harry, I really do, but I'm still
questioning the OP's motive in starting this thread using the contents
stated.

Eh.....

"Harryk" wrote in message ...
On 12/21/10 7:28 AM, Tim wrote:
On Dec 21, 6:14 am, wrote:
On 12/21/10 6:58 AM, Tim wrote:

Here, if your'e gonna mock religion especially Christianity, and those
who may believe in God the Creator, and Creation theology,then make it
worth your while...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ah7bj...eature=related

If only there were something more than superstition, *especially* the
beliefs that man was "created" about 10,000 years ago, or that every
phrase in "the bible" should be taken literally.

For an unbeliever whats it matter anyhow?


It matters because those who believe that myth try to force it and many
other religious superstitions onto my society.

I don't give a damn what the "creationists" believe, so long as they
keep their beliefs in their churches, in their homes, in their religious
schools. I don't want to see that crap (and it is crap) in public school
textbooks or being "taught" in public schools, or being pushed onto
society in general.

My suspicion is that overly religious christians are made nervous by
those who don't believe as they do and, like "the Borg," they feel a
need to assimilate everyone.


Isn't there someplace you can go to get away from all this "crap"? You know. Someplace where religion isn't part of every day life. Someplace where you won't keep bumping into religious celebrations and holidays.Someplace where history isn't taught. Someplace where you won't feel so intimidated.
I do have one suggestion for you Krause. A place where you can find your utopia. Go to Hell.
--
Ziggy®

On 12/20/2010 5:15 PM, Paul@BYC wrote:
On 12/20/2010 4:00 PM, Harryk wrote:
A new Gallup poll, released Dec. 17, reveals that 40 percent of
Americans still believe that humans were created by God **within the
last 10,000 years.** This number is slightly down from a previous high
of 47 percent in 1993 and 1999.

Another 38 percent of respondents believe that humans have evolved from
more basic organisms but with God playing a role in the process.

A mere 16 percent of respondents subscribed to the belief of "secular
evolution": that humans have evolved with no divine guidance. However,
this number has nearly doubled from nine percent of respondents in a
poll from 1982.

The poll also revealed that beliefs in creationism and evolution are
strongly related to levels of education attained. When results are
narrowed to those with college degrees, only 37 percent of respondents
maintain beliefs in creationism. Meanwhile, the belief in evolution
without the aid of God rises to 21 percent.

With regards to political affiliation, a majority of Republicans (52
percent) subscribe to creationist beliefs. This is compared to only 34
percent among Democrats and Independents.

Views on human origins vary based on church attendance. Of those who
attend church on a weekly basis, 60 percent believe in creationism while
a mere 2 percent subscribe to "secular evolution".

These numbers are flipped among those who rarely or never attend
religious services. In this group, only 24 percent believe in
creationism while 39 percent believe in evolution without divine
guidance. This represents the only subset of data reported where
"secular evolution" beats out creationism.

- - -

"...within the last 10,000 years..."

What a crock.



Everyone needs a little superstition in their lives.

Paul, this is off topic for this newsgroup, not even marked OT.
Moreover, it's inflammatory.

Why are you, of all people, the first to respond?

Hypocrite.

"Tim" wrote in message ...
On Dec 21, 6:50 am, Harryk wrote:
On 12/21/10 7:40 AM, Tim wrote:



On Dec 21, 6:34 am, wrote:
On 12/21/10 7:28 AM, Tim wrote:

On Dec 21, 6:14 am, wrote:
On 12/21/10 6:58 AM, Tim wrote:

Here, if your'e gonna mock religion especially Christianity, and those
who may believe in God the Creator, and Creation theology,then make it
worth your while...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ah7bj...eature=related

If only there were something more than superstition, *especially* the
beliefs that man was "created" about 10,000 years ago, or that every
phrase in "the bible" should be taken literally.

For an unbeliever whats it matter anyhow?

It matters because those who believe that myth try to force it and many
other religious superstitions onto my society.

And who started this thread and under what pretense?

I don't give a damn what the "creationists" believe, so long as they
keep their beliefs in their churches, in their homes, in their religious
schools. I don't want to see that crap (and it is crap) in public school
textbooks or being "taught" in public schools, or being pushed onto
society in general.

Sure you do.

My suspicion is that overly religious christians are made nervous by
those who don't believe as they do and, like "the Borg," they feel a
need to assimilate everyone.

I'm not bothered by your beliefs Harry, but something makes me feel
like you're really bothered about mine...

?;^ )

Your religious beliefs are not my concern, *unless* you try to push them
onto our non-religious, non-sectarian society and non-religious
government. And by "you," I don't mean "you," necessarily. It's not my
business if you believe in "creationism," so long as you make no efforts
to push that belief into the public schools and other venues where
anyone's religious beliefs have no place.

I wouldn't raise a finger to try to talk you out of your religious
beliefs. You are entitled to your beliefs, and you are entitled to share
them with your co-religionists, your family, your church, and your
church schools. Further, I appreciate your "christian efforts" to reach
out to those in need and I applaud you and your religion when it does
that. The more an individual does to help others who are in need, the
closer he or she is to the teachings of your saviour.

I appreciate the thoughts Harry, I really do, but I'm still
questioning the OP's motive in starting this thread using the contents
stated.

Eh.....


This thread was started by none other than Harry Krause with a quick follow up by his sock puppet "Paul". There is no OP involved.

--
Ziggy®

In article ,
says...

A new Gallup poll, released Dec. 17, reveals that 40 percent of
Americans still believe that humans were created by God **within the
last 10,000 years.** This number is slightly down from a previous high
of 47 percent in 1993 and 1999.

Another 38 percent of respondents believe that humans have evolved from
more basic organisms but with God playing a role in the process.

A mere 16 percent of respondents subscribed to the belief of "secular
evolution": that humans have evolved with no divine guidance. However,
this number has nearly doubled from nine percent of respondents in a
poll from 1982.

The poll also revealed that beliefs in creationism and evolution are
strongly related to levels of education attained. When results are
narrowed to those with college degrees, only 37 percent of respondents
maintain beliefs in creationism. Meanwhile, the belief in evolution
without the aid of God rises to 21 percent.

With regards to political affiliation, a majority of Republicans (52
percent) subscribe to creationist beliefs. This is compared to only 34
percent among Democrats and Independents.

Views on human origins vary based on church attendance. Of those who
attend church on a weekly basis, 60 percent believe in creationism while
a mere 2 percent subscribe to "secular evolution".

These numbers are flipped among those who rarely or never attend
religious services. In this group, only 24 percent believe in
creationism while 39 percent believe in evolution without divine
guidance. This represents the only subset of data reported where
"secular evolution" beats out creationism.

- - -

"...within the last 10,000 years..."

What a crock.

Another Snotty for the Harry ID spoofer.

In article 6de30094-6f35-4429-909f-d047f251d8c1
@z9g2000yqz.googlegroups.com, says...

On Dec 21, 6:34*am, Harryk wrote:
On 12/21/10 7:28 AM, Tim wrote:

On Dec 21, 6:14 am, *wrote:
On 12/21/10 6:58 AM, Tim wrote:

Here, if your'e gonna mock religion especially Christianity, and those
who may believe in God the Creator, and Creation theology,then make it
worth your while...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ah7bj...eature=related

If only there were something more than superstition, *especially* the
beliefs that man was "created" about 10,000 years ago, or that every
phrase in "the bible" should be taken literally.

For an unbeliever whats it matter anyhow?

It matters because those who believe that myth try to force it and many
other religious superstitions onto my society.

And who started this thread and under what pretense?

I don't give a damn what the "creationists" believe, so long as they
keep their beliefs in their churches, in their homes, in their religious
schools. I don't want to see that crap (and it is crap) in public school
textbooks or being "taught" in public schools, or being pushed onto
society in general.

Sure you do.


My suspicion is that overly religious christians are made nervous by
those who don't believe as they do and, like "the Borg," they feel a
need to assimilate everyone.

I'm not bothered by your beliefs Harry, but something makes me feel
like you're really bothered about mine...

?;^ )

You're damned right I am. Everyone should believe and do exactly as I
believe and do.

On Dec 21, 7:50*am, Harryk wrote:
On 12/21/10 7:40 AM, Tim wrote:

I'm not bothered by your beliefs Harry, but something makes me feel
like you're really bothered about mine...

?;^ )

Your religious beliefs are not my concern, *unless* you try to push them
onto our non-religious, non-sectarian society and non-religious
government


But your whole post is fantasy since we are not a "non-relitious, non-
sectarian society", period! A recent poll of Americans said that while
30% of us want stores to say "Happy Holiday" a full 69% want retailers
to say "Merry Christmas"... So my Christmas gift to you Harry is a
chunk of truth, use it wisely, it's not often you get a chance when it
comes to politics and religieon..

Anyway, the rest of your post was filled with the same kind of
dishonest discourse so I snipped it, sorry...

In article ,
says...

In article 6de30094-6f35-4429-909f-d047f251d8c1
@z9g2000yqz.googlegroups.com, says...

On Dec 21, 6:34*am, Harryk wrote:
On 12/21/10 7:28 AM, Tim wrote:

On Dec 21, 6:14 am, *wrote:
On 12/21/10 6:58 AM, Tim wrote:

Here, if your'e gonna mock religion especially Christianity, and those
who may believe in God the Creator, and Creation theology,then make it
worth your while...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ah7bj...eature=related

If only there were something more than superstition, *especially* the
beliefs that man was "created" about 10,000 years ago, or that every
phrase in "the bible" should be taken literally.

For an unbeliever whats it matter anyhow?

It matters because those who believe that myth try to force it and many
other religious superstitions onto my society.

And who started this thread and under what pretense?

I don't give a damn what the "creationists" believe, so long as they
keep their beliefs in their churches, in their homes, in their religious
schools. I don't want to see that crap (and it is crap) in public school
textbooks or being "taught" in public schools, or being pushed onto
society in general.

Sure you do.


My suspicion is that overly religious christians are made nervous by
those who don't believe as they do and, like "the Borg," they feel a
need to assimilate everyone.

I'm not bothered by your beliefs Harry, but something makes me feel
like you're really bothered about mine...

?;^ )

Yeah, it's funny how even in this Christmas season, the intolerance of
the left is so clear... Funny how the progressives are the ones who keep
bringing it up here, shoving their beliefs down our throats and
insulting, mocking, and trolling all at the same time..

Hey, keep it up and I'll super double snerk Snotty you. I have the
power. It's my game. Pretty mature of me, eh?