In article , says...

"Tim" wrote in message ...
On Dec 21, 6:50 am, Harryk wrote:
On 12/21/10 7:40 AM, Tim wrote:



On Dec 21, 6:34 am, wrote:
On 12/21/10 7:28 AM, Tim wrote:

On Dec 21, 6:14 am, wrote:
On 12/21/10 6:58 AM, Tim wrote:

Here, if your'e gonna mock religion especially Christianity, and those
who may believe in God the Creator, and Creation theology,then make it
worth your while...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ah7bj...eature=related

If only there were something more than superstition, *especially* the
beliefs that man was "created" about 10,000 years ago, or that every
phrase in "the bible" should be taken literally.

For an unbeliever whats it matter anyhow?

It matters because those who believe that myth try to force it and many
other religious superstitions onto my society.

And who started this thread and under what pretense?

I don't give a damn what the "creationists" believe, so long as they
keep their beliefs in their churches, in their homes, in their religious
schools. I don't want to see that crap (and it is crap) in public school
textbooks or being "taught" in public schools, or being pushed onto
society in general.

Sure you do.

My suspicion is that overly religious christians are made nervous by
those who don't believe as they do and, like "the Borg," they feel a
need to assimilate everyone.

I'm not bothered by your beliefs Harry, but something makes me feel
like you're really bothered about mine...

?;^ )

Your religious beliefs are not my concern, *unless* you try to push them
onto our non-religious, non-sectarian society and non-religious
government. And by "you," I don't mean "you," necessarily. It's not my
business if you believe in "creationism," so long as you make no efforts
to push that belief into the public schools and other venues where
anyone's religious beliefs have no place.

I wouldn't raise a finger to try to talk you out of your religious
beliefs. You are entitled to your beliefs, and you are entitled to share
them with your co-religionists, your family, your church, and your
church schools. Further, I appreciate your "christian efforts" to reach
out to those in need and I applaud you and your religion when it does
that. The more an individual does to help others who are in need, the
closer he or she is to the teachings of your saviour.

I appreciate the thoughts Harry, I really do, but I'm still
questioning the OP's motive in starting this thread using the contents
stated.

Eh.....


This thread was started by none other than Harry Krause with a quick follow up by his sock puppet "Paul". There is no OP involved.

It's because I believe what I believe, and damn it, that means that
every other person here should believe EXACTLY as I do. If you don't you
are a dumfoch stupid schitt and I'll Snotty your brains out.

In article ,
says...

In article , says...

"Tim" wrote in message ...
On Dec 21, 6:50 am, Harryk wrote:
On 12/21/10 7:40 AM, Tim wrote:



On Dec 21, 6:34 am, wrote:
On 12/21/10 7:28 AM, Tim wrote:

On Dec 21, 6:14 am, wrote:
On 12/21/10 6:58 AM, Tim wrote:

Here, if your'e gonna mock religion especially Christianity, and those
who may believe in God the Creator, and Creation theology,then make it
worth your while...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ah7bj...eature=related

If only there were something more than superstition, *especially* the
beliefs that man was "created" about 10,000 years ago, or that every
phrase in "the bible" should be taken literally.

For an unbeliever whats it matter anyhow?

It matters because those who believe that myth try to force it and many
other religious superstitions onto my society.

And who started this thread and under what pretense?

I don't give a damn what the "creationists" believe, so long as they
keep their beliefs in their churches, in their homes, in their religious
schools. I don't want to see that crap (and it is crap) in public school
textbooks or being "taught" in public schools, or being pushed onto
society in general.

Sure you do.

My suspicion is that overly religious christians are made nervous by
those who don't believe as they do and, like "the Borg," they feel a
need to assimilate everyone.

I'm not bothered by your beliefs Harry, but something makes me feel
like you're really bothered about mine...

?;^ )

Your religious beliefs are not my concern, *unless* you try to push them
onto our non-religious, non-sectarian society and non-religious
government. And by "you," I don't mean "you," necessarily. It's not my
business if you believe in "creationism," so long as you make no efforts
to push that belief into the public schools and other venues where
anyone's religious beliefs have no place.

I wouldn't raise a finger to try to talk you out of your religious
beliefs. You are entitled to your beliefs, and you are entitled to share
them with your co-religionists, your family, your church, and your
church schools. Further, I appreciate your "christian efforts" to reach
out to those in need and I applaud you and your religion when it does
that. The more an individual does to help others who are in need, the
closer he or she is to the teachings of your saviour.

I appreciate the thoughts Harry, I really do, but I'm still
questioning the OP's motive in starting this thread using the contents
stated.

Eh.....


This thread was started by none other than Harry Krause with a quick follow up by his sock puppet "Paul". There is no OP involved.

Just more of the hate speech we have to suffer here every day from the
left leaning posters here...

Hey, if you don't believe just exactly as I do, I'll call you names,
insult you and give you a Snotty. Pretty mature and intelligent, eh?

On 12/21/10 10:36 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute! wrote:
On Dec 21, 7:50 am, wrote:
On 12/21/10 7:40 AM, Tim wrote:

I'm not bothered by your beliefs Harry, but something makes me feel
like you're really bothered about mine...

?;^ )

Your religious beliefs are not my concern, *unless* you try to push them
onto our non-religious, non-sectarian society and non-religious
government


But your whole post is fantasy since we are not a "non-relitious, non-
sectarian society", period! A recent poll of Americans said that while
30% of us want stores to say "Happy Holiday" a full 69% want retailers
to say "Merry Christmas"... So my Christmas gift to you Harry is a
chunk of truth, use it wisely, it's not often you get a chance when it
comes to politics and religieon..

Anyway, the rest of your post was filled with the same kind of
dishonest discourse so I snipped it, sorry...


Perhaps if you understood the term "non-religious, non-sectarian" in
legal and governmental terms, you might figure out what is being
discussed. Oh, and society? It means a bit more than what greetings
people exchange.

Christmas mostly is a retailers' holiday these days, not a day to
reflect upon the birth and life of a man many believe to be their saviour.

On 12/21/10 8:26 AM, I am Tosk wrote:
In articlee52f36d7-48d1-41cc-88b2-
, says...

On Dec 21, 6:50 am, wrote:
On 12/21/10 7:40 AM, Tim wrote:



On Dec 21, 6:34 am, wrote:
On 12/21/10 7:28 AM, Tim wrote:

On Dec 21, 6:14 am, wrote:
On 12/21/10 6:58 AM, Tim wrote:

Here, if your'e gonna mock religion especially Christianity, and those
who may believe in God the Creator, and Creation theology,then make it
worth your while...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ah7bj...eature=related

If only there were something more than superstition, *especially* the
beliefs that man was "created" about 10,000 years ago, or that every
phrase in "the bible" should be taken literally.

For an unbeliever whats it matter anyhow?

It matters because those who believe that myth try to force it and many
other religious superstitions onto my society.

And who started this thread and under what pretense?

I don't give a damn what the "creationists" believe, so long as they
keep their beliefs in their churches, in their homes, in their religious
schools. I don't want to see that crap (and it is crap) in public school
textbooks or being "taught" in public schools, or being pushed onto
society in general.

Sure you do.

My suspicion is that overly religious christians are made nervous by
those who don't believe as they do and, like "the Borg," they feel a
need to assimilate everyone.

I'm not bothered by your beliefs Harry, but something makes me feel
like you're really bothered about mine...

?;^ )

Your religious beliefs are not my concern, *unless* you try to push them
onto our non-religious, non-sectarian society and non-religious
government. And by "you," I don't mean "you," necessarily. It's not my
business if you believe in "creationism," so long as you make no efforts
to push that belief into the public schools and other venues where
anyone's religious beliefs have no place.

I wouldn't raise a finger to try to talk you out of your religious
beliefs. You are entitled to your beliefs, and you are entitled to share
them with your co-religionists, your family, your church, and your
church schools. Further, I appreciate your "christian efforts" to reach
out to those in need and I applaud you and your religion when it does
that. The more an individual does to help others who are in need, the
closer he or she is to the teachings of your saviour.

I appreciate the thoughts Harry, I really do, but I'm still
questioning the OP's motive in starting this thread using the contents
stated.

Eh.....

The Progressives here are a good look at progressives in general.. Not
one could keep from name calling, not one can keep from the hate speech
we have seen toward Christians here this week.. They are like the
Taliban, they want to rule each and every aspect of our lives, even in
our bedrooms... Ironic, ain't it?snerk



You obviously do not know what "hate speech" is, other than the
misinformed crap you spew in here.

In article ,
says...

On 12/21/10 10:36 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute! wrote:
On Dec 21, 7:50 am, wrote:
On 12/21/10 7:40 AM, Tim wrote:

I'm not bothered by your beliefs Harry, but something makes me feel
like you're really bothered about mine...

?;^ )

Your religious beliefs are not my concern, *unless* you try to push them
onto our non-religious, non-sectarian society and non-religious
government


But your whole post is fantasy since we are not a "non-relitious, non-
sectarian society", period! A recent poll of Americans said that while
30% of us want stores to say "Happy Holiday" a full 69% want retailers
to say "Merry Christmas"... So my Christmas gift to you Harry is a
chunk of truth, use it wisely, it's not often you get a chance when it
comes to politics and religieon..

Anyway, the rest of your post was filled with the same kind of
dishonest discourse so I snipped it, sorry...


Perhaps if you understood the term "non-religious, non-sectarian" in
legal and governmental terms, you might figure out what is being
discussed. Oh, and society? It means a bit more than what greetings
people exchange.

Christmas mostly is a retailers' holiday these days, not a day to
reflect upon the birth and life of a man many believe to be their saviour.

Another Snotty for the Harry ID spoofer.

In article ,
says...

On 12/21/10 8:26 AM, I am Tosk wrote:
In articlee52f36d7-48d1-41cc-88b2-
, says...

On Dec 21, 6:50 am, wrote:
On 12/21/10 7:40 AM, Tim wrote:



On Dec 21, 6:34 am, wrote:
On 12/21/10 7:28 AM, Tim wrote:

On Dec 21, 6:14 am, wrote:
On 12/21/10 6:58 AM, Tim wrote:

Here, if your'e gonna mock religion especially Christianity, and those
who may believe in God the Creator, and Creation theology,then make it
worth your while...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ah7bj...eature=related

If only there were something more than superstition, *especially* the
beliefs that man was "created" about 10,000 years ago, or that every
phrase in "the bible" should be taken literally.

For an unbeliever whats it matter anyhow?

It matters because those who believe that myth try to force it and many
other religious superstitions onto my society.

And who started this thread and under what pretense?

I don't give a damn what the "creationists" believe, so long as they
keep their beliefs in their churches, in their homes, in their religious
schools. I don't want to see that crap (and it is crap) in public school
textbooks or being "taught" in public schools, or being pushed onto
society in general.

Sure you do.

My suspicion is that overly religious christians are made nervous by
those who don't believe as they do and, like "the Borg," they feel a
need to assimilate everyone.

I'm not bothered by your beliefs Harry, but something makes me feel
like you're really bothered about mine...

?;^ )

Your religious beliefs are not my concern, *unless* you try to push them
onto our non-religious, non-sectarian society and non-religious
government. And by "you," I don't mean "you," necessarily. It's not my
business if you believe in "creationism," so long as you make no efforts
to push that belief into the public schools and other venues where
anyone's religious beliefs have no place.

I wouldn't raise a finger to try to talk you out of your religious
beliefs. You are entitled to your beliefs, and you are entitled to share
them with your co-religionists, your family, your church, and your
church schools. Further, I appreciate your "christian efforts" to reach
out to those in need and I applaud you and your religion when it does
that. The more an individual does to help others who are in need, the
closer he or she is to the teachings of your saviour.

I appreciate the thoughts Harry, I really do, but I'm still
questioning the OP's motive in starting this thread using the contents
stated.

Eh.....

The Progressives here are a good look at progressives in general.. Not
one could keep from name calling, not one can keep from the hate speech
we have seen toward Christians here this week.. They are like the
Taliban, they want to rule each and every aspect of our lives, even in
our bedrooms... Ironic, ain't it?snerk



You obviously do not know what "hate speech" is, other than the
misinformed crap you spew in here.

Another Snotty for the Harry ID spoofer.

On Tue, 21 Dec 2010 13:05:55 -0500, Harryk
wrote:

On 12/21/10 10:36 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute! wrote:
On Dec 21, 7:50 am, wrote:
On 12/21/10 7:40 AM, Tim wrote:

I'm not bothered by your beliefs Harry, but something makes me feel
like you're really bothered about mine...

?;^ )

Your religious beliefs are not my concern, *unless* you try to push them
onto our non-religious, non-sectarian society and non-religious
government


But your whole post is fantasy since we are not a "non-relitious, non-
sectarian society", period! A recent poll of Americans said that while
30% of us want stores to say "Happy Holiday" a full 69% want retailers
to say "Merry Christmas"... So my Christmas gift to you Harry is a
chunk of truth, use it wisely, it's not often you get a chance when it
comes to politics and religieon..

Anyway, the rest of your post was filled with the same kind of
dishonest discourse so I snipped it, sorry...


Perhaps if you understood the term "non-religious, non-sectarian" in
legal and governmental terms, you might figure out what is being
discussed. Oh, and society? It means a bit more than what greetings
people exchange.

Christmas mostly is a retailers' holiday these days, not a day to
reflect upon the birth and life of a man many believe to be their saviour.

The most Christian thing these shoppers might do in the flurry of
consumption is to keep people working and our economy moving.

In article ,
says...

On Tue, 21 Dec 2010 13:05:55 -0500, Harryk
wrote:

On 12/21/10 10:36 AM, JustWaitAFrekinMinute! wrote:
On Dec 21, 7:50 am, wrote:
On 12/21/10 7:40 AM, Tim wrote:

I'm not bothered by your beliefs Harry, but something makes me feel
like you're really bothered about mine...

?;^ )

Your religious beliefs are not my concern, *unless* you try to push them
onto our non-religious, non-sectarian society and non-religious
government


But your whole post is fantasy since we are not a "non-relitious, non-
sectarian society", period! A recent poll of Americans said that while
30% of us want stores to say "Happy Holiday" a full 69% want retailers
to say "Merry Christmas"... So my Christmas gift to you Harry is a
chunk of truth, use it wisely, it's not often you get a chance when it
comes to politics and religieon..

Anyway, the rest of your post was filled with the same kind of
dishonest discourse so I snipped it, sorry...


Perhaps if you understood the term "non-religious, non-sectarian" in
legal and governmental terms, you might figure out what is being
discussed. Oh, and society? It means a bit more than what greetings
people exchange.

Christmas mostly is a retailers' holiday these days, not a day to
reflect upon the birth and life of a man many believe to be their saviour.

The most Christian thing these shoppers might do in the flurry of
consumption is to keep people working and our economy moving.

It's a good thing I am the inventor of the Snotty game so that I can
make my own rules up. If not, I'd have to give you are double Snotty for
that.

jps wrote:
On Mon, 20 Dec 2010 21:03:19 -0500, L wrote:


Paul@BYC wrote:

On 12/20/2010 4:00 PM, Harryk wrote:

A new Gallup poll, released Dec. 17, reveals that 40 percent of
Americans still believe that humans were created by God **within the
last 10,000 years.** This number is slightly down from a previous high
of 47 percent in 1993 and 1999.

Another 38 percent of respondents believe that humans have evolved from
more basic organisms but with God playing a role in the process.

A mere 16 percent of respondents subscribed to the belief of "secular
evolution": that humans have evolved with no divine guidance. However,
this number has nearly doubled from nine percent of respondents in a
poll from 1982.

The poll also revealed that beliefs in creationism and evolution are
strongly related to levels of education attained. When results are
narrowed to those with college degrees, only 37 percent of respondents
maintain beliefs in creationism. Meanwhile, the belief in evolution
without the aid of God rises to 21 percent.

With regards to political affiliation, a majority of Republicans (52
percent) subscribe to creationist beliefs. This is compared to only 34
percent among Democrats and Independents.

Views on human origins vary based on church attendance. Of those who
attend church on a weekly basis, 60 percent believe in creationism while
a mere 2 percent subscribe to "secular evolution".

These numbers are flipped among those who rarely or never attend
religious services. In this group, only 24 percent believe in
creationism while 39 percent believe in evolution without divine
guidance. This represents the only subset of data reported where
"secular evolution" beats out creationism.

- - -

"...within the last 10,000 years..."

What a crock.



Everyone needs a little superstition in their lives.


It's OT, bozo.

You putrid little bitch. You told me to **** off and die for telling
Tim that his love note to Herring was OT and could be handled better
via any number of methods.

Time for you to head back to the bozo bin where you belong.

Bye, bye, lard ass!

Adios, asshole.

On 12/21/2010 4:15 AM, I am Tosk wrote:

Why are people that don't believe in God...
.... So afraid of him? LOL!

Atheists are afraid of your god like you are afraid of Zeus.