On 1/4/11 7:00 PM, Tim wrote:
On Jan 1, 8:41 pm, wrote:
"Harryk" wrote in message

...

On 1/1/11 12:43 PM, wrote:

Wow... this will be fun!

http://www.bizjournals.com/sanfranci.../san-francisco...

Where would the actual racing take place? Out in the open ocean or...a
course around Alcatraz Island? The latter would sure draw shoreline
crowds on all sides of the Bay.

Reply: Could be around Alcatraz to the Farallon Islands and back. already
a couple sailboat races a year that do that. About 26 miles to the islands.
There are questions on how a bankrupt city like SF can afford to do the
upgrades required.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20110101/...iling_americas

I'm not really into that kind of racing but if it can pump some more
money back into the US I'm all for it.


What if all the boats are built in China and the crews all come
from...India? :)

On Jan 4, 6:00*pm, Harryk wrote:
On 1/4/11 7:00 PM, Tim wrote:



On Jan 1, 8:41 pm, *wrote:
"Harryk" *wrote in message

...

On 1/1/11 12:43 PM, wrote:

Wow... this will be fun!

http://www.bizjournals.com/sanfranci.../san-francisco....

Where would the actual racing take place? Out in the open ocean or...a
course around Alcatraz Island? The latter would sure draw shoreline
crowds on all sides of the Bay.

Reply: *Could be around Alcatraz to the Farallon Islands *and back.. *already
a couple sailboat races a year that do that. *About 26 miles to the islands.
There are questions on how a bankrupt city like SF can afford to do the
upgrades required.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20110101/...iling_americas

I'm not really into that kind of racing but if it can pump some more
money back into the US I'm all for it.

What if all the boats are built in China and the crews all come
from...India? *:)

Is that what happens? hmmmm

I was thinking of those who follow the sport and would come here to
watch/participate in the affair, and pump some good bucks in the
coffers.

On 1/4/11 6:56 PM, Harryk wrote:
On 1/4/11 6:51 PM, John H wrote:
On Tue, 04 Jan 2011 12:49:02 -0500, wrote:



O
wrote:

In truth, nothing is permanent in life - including life itself, but
the definition has to exist so that some order can be made out of
hiring, firing, replacing labor or workers.


A federal Civil Service worker is about as hard to get rid of as a
tenured professor. There has not been a real RIF (layoff) since the
50s. There have been some reorganizations that eliminated jobs but the
workers simply moved across the street, or in some cases just stayed
where they were and GSA changed the sign on the building. (The Carter
administration was probably the best example of that). A GSA guy I
knew said they were thinking about using thumb screws to mount the
signs because they changed so often.

It is possible to fire a government worker for stealing or not showing
up but if they are there every day, you can't fire them for
incompetence or goofing off..They just get shuffled off to another
agency if anything happens at all. Usually they just get put back in a
corner and ignored.

The AFGE is quite protective. They can manage to waste enough time of
supervisors that it's probably cheaper to reassign the non-performer.
Probably
similar to the firing of worthless teachers. Where the union is
strong, the
non-performers are in luck.

The public (and their kids) suffer.

Oooooh...I just love it when righties do their best to maintain a
non-confrontational atmospherein rec.boats.

Me, I'll just...watch.

This does seem very confrontational. Is this the real Harry or a
Spoofer doing his best to stir up the pot?

"A.True.Boater" wrote in message news
On 1/4/11 6:34 PM, Ziggy® wrote:
"I am wrote in message ...
In ,
says...
snippage

Of course, in the private sector, you get promoted for stealing. :)

Only if you steal for the company, not if you steal from the company.


When it comes to criminal activity, no one beats the private sector.

Bull, and you know it. For one, the private sector is slowed down some
by accountability. When I worked at the non-union shop, Stanadyne, there
was no where near the amount of raw criminal activity going on as when I
worked for the Union at Finast. That "untouchable" attitude goes up
through the ranks of the Union, they were dirty as hell and sold us all
out too....

--
Rowdy Mouse Racing - Pain is temporary, Glory is forever!


Krause is married to the union, literally. Everyone who has a pulse knows how corrupt those union folks are. But they are falling like dominoes now. Check out your own state of Connecticut if you want to see examples.


It appears that Krause wants to pretend he is interested in a nice place
to discuss boating and to stop the bickering, but he really wants to
throw out bait and see if he can get the fish worked up into a tizzy and
then say "see, I was good and look at how terrible everyone else is".
Don't take the bait.


You have krause pretty well figured out, but why does he do it?

--
Ziggy®

In article ,
says...

"A.True.Boater" wrote in message news
On 1/4/11 6:34 PM, Ziggy® wrote:
"I am wrote in message ...
In ,
says...
snippage

Of course, in the private sector, you get promoted for stealing. :)

Only if you steal for the company, not if you steal from the company.


When it comes to criminal activity, no one beats the private sector.

Bull, and you know it. For one, the private sector is slowed down some
by accountability. When I worked at the non-union shop, Stanadyne, there
was no where near the amount of raw criminal activity going on as when I
worked for the Union at Finast. That "untouchable" attitude goes up
through the ranks of the Union, they were dirty as hell and sold us all
out too....

--
Rowdy Mouse Racing - Pain is temporary, Glory is forever!


Krause is married to the union, literally. Everyone who has a pulse knows how corrupt those union folks are. But they are falling like dominoes now. Check out your own state of Connecticut if you want to see examples.


It appears that Krause wants to pretend he is interested in a nice place
to discuss boating and to stop the bickering, but he really wants to
throw out bait and see if he can get the fish worked up into a tizzy and
then say "see, I was good and look at how terrible everyone else is".
Don't take the bait.


You have krause pretty well figured out, but why does he do it?

It is a personality disorder. We don't know if it was genetic or
environmental.

"A.True.Boater" wrote in message ...
On 1/4/11 6:56 PM, Harryk wrote:
On 1/4/11 6:51 PM, John H wrote:
On Tue, 04 Jan 2011 12:49:02 -0500, wrote:



O
wrote:

In truth, nothing is permanent in life - including life itself, but
the definition has to exist so that some order can be made out of
hiring, firing, replacing labor or workers.


A federal Civil Service worker is about as hard to get rid of as a
tenured professor. There has not been a real RIF (layoff) since the
50s. There have been some reorganizations that eliminated jobs but the
workers simply moved across the street, or in some cases just stayed
where they were and GSA changed the sign on the building. (The Carter
administration was probably the best example of that). A GSA guy I
knew said they were thinking about using thumb screws to mount the
signs because they changed so often.

It is possible to fire a government worker for stealing or not showing
up but if they are there every day, you can't fire them for
incompetence or goofing off..They just get shuffled off to another
agency if anything happens at all. Usually they just get put back in a
corner and ignored.

The AFGE is quite protective. They can manage to waste enough time of
supervisors that it's probably cheaper to reassign the non-performer.
Probably
similar to the firing of worthless teachers. Where the union is
strong, the
non-performers are in luck.

The public (and their kids) suffer.

Oooooh...I just love it when righties do their best to maintain a
non-confrontational atmospherein rec.boats.

Me, I'll just...watch.

This does seem very confrontational. Is this the real Harry or a
Spoofer doing his best to stir up the pot?

What's your best guess, true boater?

--
Ziggy®

On 1/4/11 7:06 PM, Tim wrote:
On Jan 4, 6:00 pm, wrote:
On 1/4/11 7:00 PM, Tim wrote:



On Jan 1, 8:41 pm, wrote:
"Harryk" wrote in message

...

On 1/1/11 12:43 PM, wrote:

Wow... this will be fun!

http://www.bizjournals.com/sanfranci.../san-francisco...

Where would the actual racing take place? Out in the open ocean or...a
course around Alcatraz Island? The latter would sure draw shoreline
crowds on all sides of the Bay.

Reply: Could be around Alcatraz to the Farallon Islands and back. already
a couple sailboat races a year that do that. About 26 miles to the islands.
There are questions on how a bankrupt city like SF can afford to do the
upgrades required.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20110101/...iling_americas

I'm not really into that kind of racing but if it can pump some more
money back into the US I'm all for it.

What if all the boats are built in China and the crews all come
from...India? :)

Is that what happens? hmmmm

I was thinking of those who follow the sport and would come here to
watch/participate in the affair, and pump some good bucks in the
coffers.


Oh...*those* people. :)

On Jan 4, 6:46*pm, Harryk wrote:
On 1/4/11 7:06 PM, Tim wrote:



On Jan 4, 6:00 pm, *wrote:
On 1/4/11 7:00 PM, Tim wrote:

On Jan 1, 8:41 pm, * *wrote:
"Harryk" *wrote in message

...

On 1/1/11 12:43 PM, wrote:

Wow... this will be fun!

http://www.bizjournals.com/sanfranci.../san-francisco...

Where would the actual racing take place? Out in the open ocean or....a
course around Alcatraz Island? The latter would sure draw shoreline
crowds on all sides of the Bay.

Reply: *Could be around Alcatraz to the Farallon Islands *and back. *already
a couple sailboat races a year that do that. *About 26 miles to the islands.
There are questions on how a bankrupt city like SF can afford to do the
upgrades required.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20110101/...iling_americas

I'm not really into that kind of racing but if it can pump some more
money back into the US I'm all for it.

What if all the boats are built in China and the crews all come
from...India? *:)

Is that what happens? *hmmmm

* I was thinking of those who follow the sport and would come here to
watch/participate in the affair, and pump some good bucks in the
coffers.

Oh...*those* people. *:)

Yeah. I suppose I'm not one of *those*

LOL!

On 1/4/11 8:08 PM, Tim wrote:
On Jan 4, 6:46 pm, wrote:
On 1/4/11 7:06 PM, Tim wrote:



On Jan 4, 6:00 pm, wrote:
On 1/4/11 7:00 PM, Tim wrote:

On Jan 1, 8:41 pm, wrote:
"Harryk" wrote in message

...

On 1/1/11 12:43 PM, wrote:

Wow... this will be fun!

http://www.bizjournals.com/sanfranci.../san-francisco...

Where would the actual racing take place? Out in the open ocean or...a
course around Alcatraz Island? The latter would sure draw shoreline
crowds on all sides of the Bay.

Reply: Could be around Alcatraz to the Farallon Islands and back. already
a couple sailboat races a year that do that. About 26 miles to the islands.
There are questions on how a bankrupt city like SF can afford to do the
upgrades required.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20110101/...iling_americas

I'm not really into that kind of racing but if it can pump some more
money back into the US I'm all for it.

What if all the boats are built in China and the crews all come
from...India? :)

Is that what happens? hmmmm

I was thinking of those who follow the sport and would come here to
watch/participate in the affair, and pump some good bucks in the
coffers.

Oh...*those* people. :)

Yeah. I suppose I'm not one of *those*

LOL!


Me, either. I love SF and love to travel and stay there, but I wouldn't
waste the time and money to go there to watch a bunch of billionaires
race their supercool sailboats.

On Jan 4, 7:13*pm, Harryk wrote:
On 1/4/11 8:08 PM, Tim wrote:



On Jan 4, 6:46 pm, *wrote:
On 1/4/11 7:06 PM, Tim wrote:

On Jan 4, 6:00 pm, * *wrote:
On 1/4/11 7:00 PM, Tim wrote:

On Jan 1, 8:41 pm, * * *wrote:
"Harryk" *wrote in message

...

On 1/1/11 12:43 PM, wrote:

Wow... this will be fun!

http://www.bizjournals.com/sanfranci.../san-francisco...

Where would the actual racing take place? Out in the open ocean or....a
course around Alcatraz Island? The latter would sure draw shoreline
crowds on all sides of the Bay.

Reply: *Could be around Alcatraz to the Farallon Islands *and back. *already
a couple sailboat races a year that do that. *About 26 miles to the islands.
There are questions on how a bankrupt city like SF can afford to do the
upgrades required.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20110101/...iling_americas

I'm not really into that kind of racing but if it can pump some more
money back into the US I'm all for it.

What if all the boats are built in China and the crews all come
from...India? *:)

Is that what happens? *hmmmm

* *I was thinking of those who follow the sport and would come here to
watch/participate in the affair, and pump some good bucks in the
coffers.

Oh...*those* people. *:)

Yeah. I suppose I'm not one of *those*

LOL!

Me, either. I love SF and love to travel and stay there, but I wouldn't
waste the time and money to go there to watch a bunch of billionaires
race their supercool sailboats.

same.