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![]() The guys is either back-tracking on things he's said in the past...or he's "not committing" right now. Let the Weasly Watch begin! September 20, 2003 Clark Explains Statement on Authorization for Iraq War By JODI WILGOREN OWA CITY, Sept. 19 - On the third day of his campaign, Gen. Wesley K. Clark struggled today to clarify his statement on Thursday that he would "probably" have voted for the Congressional resolution authorizing the invasion of Iraq. General Clark, a former NATO commander who has retired from the Army, never denied making the statement in an interview with four reporters on his chartered plane. But he seemed stunned by the headlines that it generated, as supporters worried that he had undercut his position as an antiwar candidate with military bona fides. "I never would have voted for war," he said here this afternoon in an interview and in response to a question after a lecture at the University of Iowa. "What I would have voted for is leverage. Leverage for the United States to avoid a war. That's what we needed to avoid a war." Speaking about the resolution on Thursday, General Clark said, "At the time, I probably would have voted for it, but I think that's too simple a question." He then added: "I don't know if I would have or not. I've said it both ways, because when you get into this, what happens is you have to put yourself in a position. On balance, I probably would have voted for it." His clarification, along with a slapped-together schedule in which he met few voters and offered no specifics on domestic issues, seemed to reflect the inexperience of the first-time candidate and disorganization in his nascent campaign. His debut day in Iowa, whose early caucus is crucial to the Democratic Party's nomination process, was barely a toe touch, with a brief diner stop and a pageant of 10-minute news media interviews crammed between private receptions surrounding the long-scheduled nonpolitical lecture, for which a foundation paid $25,000. (General Clark receives 80 percent.) Despite his disappointment with reports of his airborne interview, including one in The New York Times, General Clark seemed as comfortable as could be in his new role as candidate, stopping frequently to slap shoulders as he strode across the university campus. Although he considered a presidential race for a month, he balked at most questions, saying he would spend this weekend at home in Little Rock, Ark., working on policy positions. Among the issues he told voters he was not ready to discuss in detail were health care, education, employment, AIDS in Africa, the USA Patriot Act and medical marijuana. In interviews this afternoon, he referred to a talking-point tip sheet on the hot local issues of ethanol and farm subsidies. "I don't know enough to give you a comprehensive answer at this point," he said in response to a voter's question about universal health insurance. "I know enough not to give you a comprehensive answer at this point." Regarding a complicated proposal about financing AIDS research and prevention abroad, he said, "I'm not committing anything right now to anything, until I've got my economic facts and figures in order." snip |
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![]() "NOYB" wrote in message ... The guys is either back-tracking on things he's said in the past...or he's "not committing" right now. Let the Weasly Watch begin! September 20, 2003 Clark Explains Statement on Authorization for Iraq War By JODI WILGOREN OWA CITY, Sept. 19 - On the third day of his campaign, Gen. Wesley K. Clark struggled today to clarify his statement on Thursday that he would "probably" have voted for the Congressional resolution authorizing the invasion of Iraq. General Clark, a former NATO commander who has retired from the Army, never denied making the statement in an interview with four reporters on his chartered plane. But he seemed stunned by the headlines that it generated, as supporters worried that he had undercut his position as an antiwar candidate with military bona fides. "I never would have voted for war," he said here this afternoon in an interview and in response to a question after a lecture at the University of Iowa. "What I would have voted for is leverage. Leverage for the United States to avoid a war. That's what we needed to avoid a war." Speaking about the resolution on Thursday, General Clark said, "At the time, I probably would have voted for it, but I think that's too simple a question." He then added: "I don't know if I would have or not. I've said it both ways, because when you get into this, what happens is you have to put yourself in a position. On balance, I probably would have voted for it." His clarification, along with a slapped-together schedule in which he met few voters and offered no specifics on domestic issues, seemed to reflect the inexperience of the first-time candidate and disorganization in his nascent campaign. His debut day in Iowa, whose early caucus is crucial to the Democratic Party's nomination process, was barely a toe touch, with a brief diner stop and a pageant of 10-minute news media interviews crammed between private receptions surrounding the long-scheduled nonpolitical lecture, for which a foundation paid $25,000. (General Clark receives 80 percent.) Despite his disappointment with reports of his airborne interview, including one in The New York Times, General Clark seemed as comfortable as could be in his new role as candidate, stopping frequently to slap shoulders as he strode across the university campus. Although he considered a presidential race for a month, he balked at most questions, saying he would spend this weekend at home in Little Rock, Ark., working on policy positions. Among the issues he told voters he was not ready to discuss in detail were health care, education, employment, AIDS in Africa, the USA Patriot Act and medical marijuana. In interviews this afternoon, he referred to a talking-point tip sheet on the hot local issues of ethanol and farm subsidies. "I don't know enough to give you a comprehensive answer at this point," he said in response to a voter's question about universal health insurance. "I know enough not to give you a comprehensive answer at this point." Regarding a complicated proposal about financing AIDS research and prevention abroad, he said, "I'm not committing anything right now to anything, until I've got my economic facts and figures in order." snip |
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On Sat, 20 Sep 2003 04:26:29 GMT, "NOYB" wrote:
The guys is either back-tracking on things he's said in the past...or he's "not committing" right now. Let the Weasly Watch begin! September 20, 2003 Clark Explains Statement on Authorization for Iraq War By JODI WILGOREN OWA CITY, Sept. 19 - On the third day of his campaign, Gen. Wesley K. Clark struggled today to clarify his statement on Thursday that he would "probably" have voted for the Congressional resolution authorizing the invasion of Iraq. General Clark, a former NATO commander who has retired from the Army, never denied making the statement in an interview with four reporters on his chartered plane. But he seemed stunned by the headlines that it generated, as supporters worried that he had undercut his position as an antiwar candidate with military bona fides. "I never would have voted for war," he said here this afternoon in an interview and in response to a question after a lecture at the University of Iowa. "What I would have voted for is leverage. Leverage for the United States to avoid a war. That's what we needed to avoid a war." Speaking about the resolution on Thursday, General Clark said, "At the time, I probably would have voted for it, but I think that's too simple a question." He then added: "I don't know if I would have or not. I've said it both ways, because when you get into this, what happens is you have to put yourself in a position. On balance, I probably would have voted for it." His clarification, along with a slapped-together schedule in which he met few voters and offered no specifics on domestic issues, seemed to reflect the inexperience of the first-time candidate and disorganization in his nascent campaign. His debut day in Iowa, whose early caucus is crucial to the Democratic Party's nomination process, was barely a toe touch, with a brief diner stop and a pageant of 10-minute news media interviews crammed between private receptions surrounding the long-scheduled nonpolitical lecture, for which a foundation paid $25,000. (General Clark receives 80 percent.) Despite his disappointment with reports of his airborne interview, including one in The New York Times, General Clark seemed as comfortable as could be in his new role as candidate, stopping frequently to slap shoulders as he strode across the university campus. Although he considered a presidential race for a month, he balked at most questions, saying he would spend this weekend at home in Little Rock, Ark., working on policy positions. Among the issues he told voters he was not ready to discuss in detail were health care, education, employment, AIDS in Africa, the USA Patriot Act and medical marijuana. In interviews this afternoon, he referred to a talking-point tip sheet on the hot local issues of ethanol and farm subsidies. "I don't know enough to give you a comprehensive answer at this point," he said in response to a voter's question about universal health insurance. "I know enough not to give you a comprehensive answer at this point." Regarding a complicated proposal about financing AIDS research and prevention abroad, he said, "I'm not committing anything right now to anything, until I've got my economic facts and figures in order." snip Politicians in general (left, right, in-between) develop a wonderful ability to actually chew words as they say them. It helps digestion, in the likely event that they will have to eat those same words at a later date. It is unfortunate for our country that he who minces most is most often elected, but we have ourselves to blame. Perhaps we didn't create the system, but we *are* the system, and we don't seem inclined to change it. Straight-shooters scare the funders, put the media into a frenzy, and generally don't get elected. It's become our heritage. It stinks. noah |
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"NOYB" wrote in message
... The guys is either back-tracking on things he's said in the past...or he's "not committing" right now. Give the guy five minutes to get his feet wet. There's not a person on earth who could step into this kind of scrutiny and not be thrashed, especially someone who hasn't polished his skills as a professional politician for a couple of decades. He's a player and he's going to effect the outcome of this election, either as a Presidential nominee or the VP. Southern military man with a long record of successful and continually higher profile leadership responsiblities. He's Karl Rove's worst nightmare. jps |
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Damn, after one day and jps is already backing down from his prediction
that Weasly would be the next president. Talk about being slick. "jps" wrote in message ... "NOYB" wrote in message ... The guys is either back-tracking on things he's said in the past...or he's "not committing" right now. Give the guy five minutes to get his feet wet. There's not a person on earth who could step into this kind of scrutiny and not be thrashed, especially someone who hasn't polished his skills as a professional politician for a couple of decades. He's a player and he's going to effect the outcome of this election, either as a Presidential nominee or the VP. Southern military man with a long record of successful and continually higher profile leadership responsiblities. He's Karl Rove's worst nightmare. jps |
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Gould 0738 wrote:
What's this? NOYB running scared of a Democrat? http://www.publicdebt.treas.gov/opd/opdpenny.htm I don't believe there is a more frightened poster in this newsgroup, actually. He's a real Nervous Norvus. |
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![]() "Bill Cole" wrote in message news:bJWab.391682$Oz4.176605@rwcrnsc54... Damn, after one day and jps is already backing down from his prediction that Weasly would be the next president. Talk about being slick. you haven't been paying attention. |
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"Bill Cole" wrote in message
news:bJWab.391682$Oz4.176605@rwcrnsc54... Damn, after one day and jps is already backing down from his prediction that Weasly would be the next president. Talk about being slick. Is this "Weasley" name something that Limbaugh, Hannity, or some other kind hearted, compassionate conservative dreamed up on the rw talk show format? If so, this guy bears looking at. It would appear the right is *already* mobilizing against this guy as if he were the male version of Hillary Clinton. Anybody that can make the right pee themselves in fright is worth considering. :-) Most important aspect of a president? Leadership. It's been a missing ingredient at times. Look back in history- the government always worked best when we had and effective leader at the helm- regardless of party affiliation. |
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"Gould 0738" wrote in message
... "Bill Cole" wrote in message news:bJWab.391682$Oz4.176605@rwcrnsc54... Damn, after one day and jps is already backing down from his prediction that Weasly would be the next president. Talk about being slick. Is this "Weasley" name something that Limbaugh, Hannity, or some other kind hearted, compassionate conservative dreamed up on the rw talk show format? First time I've heard it. Pretty weak. Wouldn't doubt it came from the Fox News crew but tooth boy could've come up with this moniker on his own. If so, this guy bears looking at. It would appear the right is *already* mobilizing against this guy as if he were the male version of Hillary Clinton. Anybody that can make the right pee themselves in fright is worth considering. :-) He's a scary opponent. 30 year military man who's regarded as brilliant strategist. Once he gets his sea legs he's going to be formidable. I think no matter what, this guy is going to change the complexion of the election cycle. Most important aspect of a president? Leadership. It's been a missing ingredient at times. Look back in history- the government always worked best when we had and effective leader at the helm- regardless of party affiliation. Our present leader is a testosterone driven child. We need someone with the moral fiber, presence of mind, and a vision that'll help guide the country back to self dignity and self restraint -- not possible with a sock puppet (thanks to Joe Parsons) who's vision extends from protecting the super wealthy all the way to the rich. Bush and his administration are unraveling before our eyes. His Presidency is a series of missteps based on hopeful theories. It's a fitting circumstance that Wesley Clark should show up just as the cascade of **** begins piling at Bush's doorstep. Little Shrub is finished, the jig is up. |
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