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OK, this sounds like a lot of stuff and it probably is, but due to
compactness and available space management it's going to be OK. First, we took the loose floor out of the 23' Marquis. nothing wrong with the plywood, but somebody had taken the floor out before and just literally cut the wood to fit, set it in tacked it down to the stringers, and put carpet over it. No gluing or fiber/epoxy . Well, that made the front seats rather wobbly, and seeing they are captains style chairs on an aluminum pillar I figured there was a lot of wasted space so they have to go. This 20' junker (Tri-Sonic) i bought has a good fuel tank and is made on the order of the one in the Marquis. a 26 gal. And will fit on the starboard side and be tied together. We've already pulled the drawings off the 'net to see how it is done and done right, so now I'll have double the fuel capacity.. Then we are going to make a couple storage boxes to place below the front seats. This will provide lots of room for fresh water storage, a small sink will be mounted in the top of the box with drainage to go to the Bildge. I don't think that rinsing out a coffee cup or brushing your teeth will hurt the Ohio river when the bilge pump kicks in. underneath that box will be a removable plastic 10 gal. freshwater tank which will be fed to a spigot via a small 12v RV pump. Also, I'm entertaining hot water via a heat exchange from the engine, OR using a heating element. I already have mounted my 200a battery isolator and 1500w inverter and this will be more than ample to feed a coffee pot and small microwave which will be located in the box on the port side. All this will be inside securable closet doors that will be sturdy for a pounding. No reason to have stuff spill out because you hit a wake hard or something like that. I'm also finding room to mount a small 120v "dorm' refrigerator which i already have,and I've also found room for 2 8D batteries to be fueled by the inverter. A standard automotive battery will still be for the engine. And i already have the 180a. Alternator to install with room to carry a smaller spare. extra prop and tools (under the floor) We will be modifying the cuddie for a porta-throne and some other storage stuff the wife will probably enjoy. My carpenter buddy will be coming down this week to measure out the boxes so he can have put them together in his shop. Also all this doesn't exceed the boats 1000 lb weight capacity. including the Mrs. and myself. PLUS, with the exception of the seat boxes, all this stuff can be installed at the launch site so there's not an extra burden on the trailer or the hull while towing. I'll have to take pictures of the process. BTW, Many tanks to John H. for allowing me to examine his camper trailer to get some ideas on building my boat. it's amazing how much stuff can be installed in small quarters with maximum efficiency. I was very impressed! |
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On Jan 8, 3:01*pm, Tim wrote:
OK, this sounds like a lot of stuff and it probably is, but due to compactness and available space management it's going to be OK. First, we took the loose floor out of the 23' Marquis. nothing wrong with the plywood, but somebody had taken the floor out before and just literally cut the wood to fit, set it in tacked it down to the stringers, and put carpet over it. No gluing or fiber/epoxy . *Well, that made the front seats rather wobbly, and seeing they are captains style chairs on an aluminum pillar I figured there was a lot of wasted space so they have to go. *This 20' junker (Tri-Sonic) i bought has a good fuel tank and is made on the order of the one in the Marquis. a 26 gal. And will fit on the starboard side and be tied together. We've already pulled the drawings off the 'net to see how it is done and done right, so now I'll have double the fuel capacity.. Then we are going to make a couple storage boxes to place below the front seats. This will provide lots of room for fresh water storage, a small sink will be mounted in the top of the box with drainage to go to the Bildge. I don't think that rinsing out a coffee cup or brushing your teeth will hurt the Ohio river *when the bilge pump kicks in. underneath that box will be a removable plastic 10 gal. freshwater tank which will be fed to a spigot via a small 12v RV pump. Also, I'm entertaining hot water via a heat exchange *from the engine, OR using a *heating element. *I already have mounted my 200a battery isolator and 1500w *inverter and this will be more than ample to feed a coffee pot and small microwave which will be located in the box on the port side. All this will be inside securable closet doors that will be sturdy for a pounding. No reason to have stuff spill out because you hit a wake hard or something like that. *I'm also finding room to mount a small 120v "dorm' refrigerator which i already have,and I've also found room for 2 8D batteries to be fueled by the inverter. A standard automotive battery will still be for the engine. And i already have the 180a. Alternator to install with room to carry a smaller spare. extra prop and tools (under the floor) We will be modifying the cuddie for a porta-throne and some other storage stuff the wife will probably enjoy. My carpenter buddy will be coming down this week to measure out the boxes *so he can have put them together in his shop. Also all this doesn't exceed the boats 1000 lb weight capacity. including the Mrs. and myself. PLUS, with the exception of the seat boxes, all this stuff can be installed at the launch site so there's not an extra burden on the trailer or the hull while towing. I'll have to take pictures of the process. BTW, Many tanks to John H. for allowing me to examine his camper trailer to get some ideas on building my boat. it's amazing how much stuff can be installed in *small quarters with maximum efficiency. I was very impressed! =========== You're going to need nothing less than a big Leece-Neville alternator and a whole bunch of batteries to drive that 1500 watt inverter. Don't ask me how I know. :-) |
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On Jan 8, 4:00*pm, "Wayne.B" wrote:
On Jan 8, 3:01*pm, Tim wrote: OK, this sounds like a lot of stuff and it probably is, but due to compactness and available space management it's going to be OK. First, we took the loose floor out of the 23' Marquis. nothing wrong with the plywood, but somebody had taken the floor out before and just literally cut the wood to fit, set it in tacked it down to the stringers, and put carpet over it. No gluing or fiber/epoxy . *Well, that made the front seats rather wobbly, and seeing they are captains style chairs on an aluminum pillar I figured there was a lot of wasted space so they have to go. *This 20' junker (Tri-Sonic) i bought has a good fuel tank and is made on the order of the one in the Marquis. a 26 gal. And will fit on the starboard side and be tied together. We've already pulled the drawings off the 'net to see how it is done and done right, so now I'll have double the fuel capacity.. Then we are going to make a couple storage boxes to place below the front seats. This will provide lots of room for fresh water storage, a small sink will be mounted in the top of the box with drainage to go to the Bildge. I don't think that rinsing out a coffee cup or brushing your teeth will hurt the Ohio river *when the bilge pump kicks in. underneath that box will be a removable plastic 10 gal. freshwater tank which will be fed to a spigot via a small 12v RV pump. Also, I'm entertaining hot water via a heat exchange *from the engine, OR using a *heating element. *I already have mounted my 200a battery isolator and 1500w *inverter and this will be more than ample to feed a coffee pot and small microwave which will be located in the box on the port side. All this will be inside securable closet doors that will be sturdy for a pounding. No reason to have stuff spill out because you hit a wake hard or something like that. *I'm also finding room to mount a small 120v "dorm' refrigerator which i already have,and I've also found room for 2 8D batteries to be fueled by the inverter. A standard automotive battery will still be for the engine. And i already have the 180a. Alternator to install with room to carry a smaller spare. extra prop and tools (under the floor) We will be modifying the cuddie for a porta-throne and some other storage stuff the wife will probably enjoy. My carpenter buddy will be coming down this week to measure out the boxes *so he can have put them together in his shop. Also all this doesn't exceed the boats 1000 lb weight capacity. including the Mrs. and myself. PLUS, with the exception of the seat boxes, all this stuff can be installed at the launch site so there's not an extra burden on the trailer or the hull while towing. I'll have to take pictures of the process. BTW, Many tanks to John H. for allowing me to examine his camper trailer to get some ideas on building my boat. it's amazing how much stuff can be installed in *small quarters with maximum efficiency. I was very impressed! =========== You're going to need nothing less than a big Leece-Neville alternator and a whole bunch of batteries to drive that 1500 watt inverter. Don't ask me how I know. * :-) Actually I'm using the modified Motorola i was going to send you. Well the trick isn't' to try to push all that stuff at once. I wouldnt' be using a half of the normal power at any given time. The only reason I'm using a 1500 is because I have it and i have a 350w. so.... I also thought it would be interesting to have it all hooked up to an 8-d battery and see how long it would take to run a 120v, block heater in a 10 gal tank and see how the battery would last heating the water up to 150 degrees. just something to dink with of course and no practicality, but..... ?;^ ) |
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"Tim" wrote in message ... On Jan 8, 4:00 pm, "Wayne.B" wrote: On Jan 8, 3:01 pm, Tim wrote: OK, this sounds like a lot of stuff and it probably is, but due to compactness and available space management it's going to be OK. First, we took the loose floor out of the 23' Marquis. nothing wrong with the plywood, but somebody had taken the floor out before and just literally cut the wood to fit, set it in tacked it down to the stringers, and put carpet over it. No gluing or fiber/epoxy . Well, that made the front seats rather wobbly, and seeing they are captains style chairs on an aluminum pillar I figured there was a lot of wasted space so they have to go. This 20' junker (Tri-Sonic) i bought has a good fuel tank and is made on the order of the one in the Marquis. a 26 gal. And will fit on the starboard side and be tied together. We've already pulled the drawings off the 'net to see how it is done and done right, so now I'll have double the fuel capacity.. Then we are going to make a couple storage boxes to place below the front seats. This will provide lots of room for fresh water storage, a small sink will be mounted in the top of the box with drainage to go to the Bildge. I don't think that rinsing out a coffee cup or brushing your teeth will hurt the Ohio river when the bilge pump kicks in. underneath that box will be a removable plastic 10 gal. freshwater tank which will be fed to a spigot via a small 12v RV pump. Also, I'm entertaining hot water via a heat exchange from the engine, OR using a heating element. I already have mounted my 200a battery isolator and 1500w inverter and this will be more than ample to feed a coffee pot and small microwave which will be located in the box on the port side. All this will be inside securable closet doors that will be sturdy for a pounding. No reason to have stuff spill out because you hit a wake hard or something like that. I'm also finding room to mount a small 120v "dorm' refrigerator which i already have,and I've also found room for 2 8D batteries to be fueled by the inverter. A standard automotive battery will still be for the engine. And i already have the 180a. Alternator to install with room to carry a smaller spare. extra prop and tools (under the floor) We will be modifying the cuddie for a porta-throne and some other storage stuff the wife will probably enjoy. My carpenter buddy will be coming down this week to measure out the boxes so he can have put them together in his shop. Also all this doesn't exceed the boats 1000 lb weight capacity. including the Mrs. and myself. PLUS, with the exception of the seat boxes, all this stuff can be installed at the launch site so there's not an extra burden on the trailer or the hull while towing. I'll have to take pictures of the process. BTW, Many tanks to John H. for allowing me to examine his camper trailer to get some ideas on building my boat. it's amazing how much stuff can be installed in small quarters with maximum efficiency. I was very impressed! =========== You're going to need nothing less than a big Leece-Neville alternator and a whole bunch of batteries to drive that 1500 watt inverter. Don't ask me how I know. :-) Actually I'm using the modified Motorola i was going to send you. Well the trick isn't' to try to push all that stuff at once. I wouldnt' be using a half of the normal power at any given time. The only reason I'm using a 1500 is because I have it and i have a 350w. so.... I also thought it would be interesting to have it all hooked up to an 8-d battery and see how long it would take to run a 120v, block heater in a 10 gal tank and see how the battery would last heating the water up to 150 degrees. just something to dink with of course and no practicality, but..... ?;^ ) ======= Sounds like a plan Tim. If I may, I've used solar showers quite a bit and they work well, might find a couple plastic jerry jugs and paint them black to give the temp a little boost. Stowed on deck of course. Also, the hand pumps work good for potable water, people use less if they have to pump rather than just opening the faucet. Just my 2c. |
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On Jan 8, 8:36*pm, "MMC" wrote:
"Tim" *wrote in message ... On Jan 8, 4:00 pm, "Wayne.B" wrote: On Jan 8, 3:01 pm, Tim wrote: OK, this sounds like a lot of stuff and it probably is, but due to compactness and available space management it's going to be OK. First, we took the loose floor out of the 23' Marquis. nothing wrong with the plywood, but somebody had taken the floor out before and just literally cut the wood to fit, set it in tacked it down to the stringers, and put carpet over it. No gluing or fiber/epoxy . *Well, that made the front seats rather wobbly, and seeing they are captains style chairs on an aluminum pillar I figured there was a lot of wasted space so they have to go. *This 20' junker (Tri-Sonic) i bought has a good fuel tank and is made on the order of the one in the Marquis. a 26 gal. And will fit on the starboard side and be tied together. We've already pulled the drawings off the 'net to see how it is done and done right, so now I'll have double the fuel capacity.. Then we are going to make a couple storage boxes to place below the front seats. This will provide lots of room for fresh water storage, a small sink will be mounted in the top of the box with drainage to go to the Bildge. I don't think that rinsing out a coffee cup or brushing your teeth will hurt the Ohio river *when the bilge pump kicks in. underneath that box will be a removable plastic 10 gal. freshwater tank which will be fed to a spigot via a small 12v RV pump. Also, I'm entertaining hot water via a heat exchange *from the engine, OR using a *heating element. *I already have mounted my 200a battery isolator and 1500w *inverter and this will be more than ample to feed a coffee pot and small microwave which will be located in the box on the port side. All this will be inside securable closet doors that will be sturdy for a pounding. No reason to have stuff spill out because you hit a wake hard or something like that. *I'm also finding room to mount a small 120v "dorm' refrigerator which i already have,and I've also found room for 2 8D batteries to be fueled by the inverter. A standard automotive battery will still be for the engine. And i already have the 180a. Alternator to install with room to carry a smaller spare. extra prop and tools (under the floor) We will be modifying the cuddie for a porta-throne and some other storage stuff the wife will probably enjoy. My carpenter buddy will be coming down this week to measure out the boxes *so he can have put them together in his shop. Also all this doesn't exceed the boats 1000 lb weight capacity. including the Mrs. and myself. PLUS, with the exception of the seat boxes, all this stuff can be installed at the launch site so there's not an extra burden on the trailer or the hull while towing. I'll have to take pictures of the process. BTW, Many tanks to John H. for allowing me to examine his camper trailer to get some ideas on building my boat. it's amazing how much stuff can be installed in *small quarters with maximum efficiency. I was very impressed! =========== You're going to need nothing less than a big Leece-Neville alternator and a whole bunch of batteries to drive that 1500 watt inverter. Don't ask me how I know. * :-) Actually I'm using the modified Motorola i was going to send you. Well the trick isn't' to try to push all that stuff at once. I wouldnt' be using a half of the normal power at any given time. The only reason I'm using a 1500 is because I have it and i have a 350w. so.... I also thought it would be interesting to have it all hooked up to an 8-d battery and see how long it would take to run a 120v, block heater in a 10 gal tank and see how the battery would last heating the water up to 150 degrees. just something to dink with of course and no practicality, but..... ?;^ ) ======= Sounds like a plan Tim. If I may, I've used solar showers quite a bit and they work well, might find a couple plastic jerry jugs and paint them black to give the temp a little boost. Stowed on deck of course. Also, the hand pumps work good for potable water, people use less if they have to pump rather than just opening the faucet. Just my 2c. Thanks man. i know exactly what you mean, but actually this is a 23' boat where i need the maximum efficiency for the comodities i'm using. There's not going to be room for a shower, but I suppose i should have posted that i'm also going to have a hand held nozzle like what you would find at a kitchen sink which will be good for 'hosing off' and and a small electric pump will work good for that. I'm outfitting this boat to do a 100+ mile river cruise this summer, so it won't be a live aboard and there are marina's scattered along the way, but i thought the equipment might make the trip a bit more pleasant. Now the wife won't stand sleeping on the boat or camping on a bank. so it looks like it's motel time there.... i guess you can't have everything.... |
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"Tim" wrote in message ... On Jan 8, 8:36 pm, "MMC" wrote: "Tim" wrote in message ... On Jan 8, 4:00 pm, "Wayne.B" wrote: On Jan 8, 3:01 pm, Tim wrote: OK, this sounds like a lot of stuff and it probably is, but due to compactness and available space management it's going to be OK. First, we took the loose floor out of the 23' Marquis. nothing wrong with the plywood, but somebody had taken the floor out before and just literally cut the wood to fit, set it in tacked it down to the stringers, and put carpet over it. No gluing or fiber/epoxy . Well, that made the front seats rather wobbly, and seeing they are captains style chairs on an aluminum pillar I figured there was a lot of wasted space so they have to go. This 20' junker (Tri-Sonic) i bought has a good fuel tank and is made on the order of the one in the Marquis. a 26 gal. And will fit on the starboard side and be tied together. We've already pulled the drawings off the 'net to see how it is done and done right, so now I'll have double the fuel capacity.. Then we are going to make a couple storage boxes to place below the front seats. This will provide lots of room for fresh water storage, a small sink will be mounted in the top of the box with drainage to go to the Bildge. I don't think that rinsing out a coffee cup or brushing your teeth will hurt the Ohio river when the bilge pump kicks in. underneath that box will be a removable plastic 10 gal. freshwater tank which will be fed to a spigot via a small 12v RV pump. Also, I'm entertaining hot water via a heat exchange from the engine, OR using a heating element. I already have mounted my 200a battery isolator and 1500w inverter and this will be more than ample to feed a coffee pot and small microwave which will be located in the box on the port side. All this will be inside securable closet doors that will be sturdy for a pounding. No reason to have stuff spill out because you hit a wake hard or something like that. I'm also finding room to mount a small 120v "dorm' refrigerator which i already have,and I've also found room for 2 8D batteries to be fueled by the inverter. A standard automotive battery will still be for the engine. And i already have the 180a. Alternator to install with room to carry a smaller spare. extra prop and tools (under the floor) We will be modifying the cuddie for a porta-throne and some other storage stuff the wife will probably enjoy. My carpenter buddy will be coming down this week to measure out the boxes so he can have put them together in his shop. Also all this doesn't exceed the boats 1000 lb weight capacity. including the Mrs. and myself. PLUS, with the exception of the seat boxes, all this stuff can be installed at the launch site so there's not an extra burden on the trailer or the hull while towing. I'll have to take pictures of the process. BTW, Many tanks to John H. for allowing me to examine his camper trailer to get some ideas on building my boat. it's amazing how much stuff can be installed in small quarters with maximum efficiency. I was very impressed! =========== You're going to need nothing less than a big Leece-Neville alternator and a whole bunch of batteries to drive that 1500 watt inverter. Don't ask me how I know. :-) Actually I'm using the modified Motorola i was going to send you. Well the trick isn't' to try to push all that stuff at once. I wouldnt' be using a half of the normal power at any given time. The only reason I'm using a 1500 is because I have it and i have a 350w. so.... I also thought it would be interesting to have it all hooked up to an 8-d battery and see how long it would take to run a 120v, block heater in a 10 gal tank and see how the battery would last heating the water up to 150 degrees. just something to dink with of course and no practicality, but..... ?;^ ) ======= Sounds like a plan Tim. If I may, I've used solar showers quite a bit and they work well, might find a couple plastic jerry jugs and paint them black to give the temp a little boost. Stowed on deck of course. Also, the hand pumps work good for potable water, people use less if they have to pump rather than just opening the faucet. Just my 2c. Thanks man. i know exactly what you mean, but actually this is a 23' boat where i need the maximum efficiency for the comodities i'm using. There's not going to be room for a shower, but I suppose i should have posted that i'm also going to have a hand held nozzle like what you would find at a kitchen sink which will be good for 'hosing off' and and a small electric pump will work good for that. I'm outfitting this boat to do a 100+ mile river cruise this summer, so it won't be a live aboard and there are marina's scattered along the way, but i thought the equipment might make the trip a bit more pleasant. Now the wife won't stand sleeping on the boat or camping on a bank. so it looks like it's motel time there.... i guess you can't have everything.... ====== Gotcha Tim! I was picturing sleeping on the boat tied off to a tree but when think about it, there is no much chance of me getting my Mrs to do that either! |
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On Jan 9, 10:04*am, I am Tosk wrote:
In article m, says... "Tim" *wrote in message ... On Jan 8, 8:36 pm, "MMC" wrote: "Tim" *wrote in message .... On Jan 8, 4:00 pm, "Wayne.B" wrote: On Jan 8, 3:01 pm, Tim wrote: OK, this sounds like a lot of stuff and it probably is, but due to compactness and available space management it's going to be OK. First, we took the loose floor out of the 23' Marquis. nothing wrong with the plywood, but somebody had taken the floor out before and just literally cut the wood to fit, set it in tacked it down to the stringers, and put carpet over it. No gluing or fiber/epoxy . *Well, that made the front seats rather wobbly, and seeing they are captains style chairs on an aluminum pillar I figured there was a lot of wasted space so they have to go. *This 20' junker (Tri-Sonic) i bought has a good fuel tank and is made on the order of the one in the Marquis.. a 26 gal. And will fit on the starboard side and be tied together. We've already pulled the drawings off the 'net to see how it is done and done right, so now I'll have double the fuel capacity.. Then we are going to make a couple storage boxes to place below the front seats. This will provide lots of room for fresh water storage, a small sink will be mounted in the top of the box with drainage to go to the Bildge. I don't think that rinsing out a coffee cup or brushing your teeth will hurt the Ohio river *when the bilge pump kicks in. underneath that box will be a removable plastic 10 gal. freshwater tank which will be fed to a spigot via a small 12v RV pump. Also, I'm entertaining hot water via a heat exchange *from the engine, OR using a *heating element. *I already have mounted my 200a battery isolator and 1500w *inverter and this will be more than ample to feed a coffee pot and small microwave which will be located in the box on the port side. All this will be inside securable closet doors that will be sturdy for a pounding. No reason to have stuff spill out because you hit a wake hard or something like that. *I'm also finding room to mount a small 120v "dorm' refrigerator which i already have,and I've also found room for 2 8D batteries to be fueled by the inverter. A standard automotive battery will still be for the engine. And i already have the 180a. Alternator to install with room to carry a smaller spare. extra prop and tools (under the floor) We will be modifying the cuddie for a porta-throne and some other storage stuff the wife will probably enjoy. My carpenter buddy will be coming down this week to measure out the boxes *so he can have put them together in his shop. Also all this doesn't exceed the boats 1000 lb weight capacity. including the Mrs. and myself. PLUS, with the exception of the seat boxes, all this stuff can be installed at the launch site so there's not an extra burden on the trailer or the hull while towing. I'll have to take pictures of the process. BTW, Many tanks to John H. for allowing me to examine his camper trailer to get some ideas on building my boat. it's amazing how much stuff can be installed in *small quarters with maximum efficiency. I was very impressed! =========== You're going to need nothing less than a big Leece-Neville alternator and a whole bunch of batteries to drive that 1500 watt inverter. Don't ask me how I know. * :-) Actually I'm using the modified Motorola i was going to send you. Well the trick isn't' to try to push all that stuff at once. I wouldnt' be using a half of the normal power at any given time. The only reason I'm using a 1500 is because I have it and i have a 350w. so.... I also thought it would be interesting to have it all hooked up to an 8-d battery and see how long it would take to run a 120v, block heater in a 10 gal tank and see how the battery would last heating the water up to 150 degrees. just something to dink with of course and no practicality, but..... ?;^ ) ======= Sounds like a plan Tim. If I may, I've used solar showers quite a bit and they work well, might find a couple plastic jerry jugs and paint them black to give the temp a little boost. Stowed on deck of course. Also, the hand pumps work good for potable water, people use less if they have to pump rather than just opening the faucet. Just my 2c. Thanks man. i know exactly what you mean, but actually this is a 23' boat where i need the maximum efficiency for the comodities i'm using. There's not going to be room for a shower, but I suppose i should have posted that i'm also going to have a hand held nozzle like what you would find at a kitchen sink *which will be good for 'hosing off' and and a small electric pump will work good for that. Tim, don't bother with a pump, or bother using the pump for that. Use a pole and keep a couple of those Solar Shower bags on deck during the day. Just hang the bag from a pole holder and oar or something and you have nice warm water to wash off at the end of the day... Really, they work great, no wiring necessary  I'm outfitting this boat to do a 100+ mile river cruise this summer, so it won't be a live aboard and there are marina's scattered along the way, but i thought the equipment might make the trip a bit more pleasant. Now the wife won't stand sleeping on the boat or camping on a bank. so it looks like it's motel time there.... i guess you can't have everything.... ====== Gotcha Tim! I was picturing sleeping on the boat tied off to a tree but when think about it, there is no much chance of me getting my Mrs to do that either! -- Rowdy Mouse Racing - Pain is temporary, Glory is forever! Scott, I know the principle, because my dad had an outside shower in an old building out back behind his house. He had a 200 gal propane tank on a stand that was painted in black. As the sun hit it, it warmed up pretty good especially int he hottest of summer. it did make a pretty good water heater, but when the sun went down so did the water temp. But it was fun while it lasted. |
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On Jan 9, 10:43*am, Harryk wrote:
On 1/9/11 11:04 AM, I am Tosk wrote: In ting.com, says... "Tim" *wrote in message .... On Jan 8, 8:36 pm, *wrote: "Tim" *wrote in message .... On Jan 8, 4:00 pm, *wrote: On Jan 8, 3:01 pm, *wrote: OK, this sounds like a lot of stuff and it probably is, but due to compactness and available space management it's going to be OK. First, we took the loose floor out of the 23' Marquis. nothing wrong with the plywood, but somebody had taken the floor out before and just literally cut the wood to fit, set it in tacked it down to the stringers, and put carpet over it. No gluing or fiber/epoxy . *Well, that made the front seats rather wobbly, and seeing they are captains style chairs on an aluminum pillar I figured there was a lot of wasted space so they have to go. *This 20' junker (Tri-Sonic) i bought has a good fuel tank and is made on the order of the one in the Marquis. a 26 gal. And will fit on the starboard side and be tied together. We've already pulled the drawings off the 'net to see how it is done and done right, so now I'll have double the fuel capacity.. Then we are going to make a couple storage boxes to place below the front seats.. This will provide lots of room for fresh water storage, a small sink will be mounted in the top of the box with drainage to go to the Bildge. I don't think that rinsing out a coffee cup or brushing your teeth will hurt the Ohio river *when the bilge pump kicks in. underneath that box will be a removable plastic 10 gal. freshwater tank which will be fed to a spigot via a small 12v RV pump. Also, I'm entertaining hot water via a heat exchange *from the engine, OR using a *heating element. *I already have mounted my 200a battery isolator and 1500w *inverter and this will be more than ample to feed a coffee pot and small microwave which will be located in the box on the port side. All this will be inside securable closet doors that will be sturdy for a pounding. No reason to have stuff spill out because you hit a wake hard or something like that. * I'm also finding room to mount a small 120v "dorm' refrigerator which i already have,and I've also found room for 2 8D batteries to be fueled by the inverter. A standard automotive battery will still be for the engine. And i already have the 180a. Alternator to install with room to carry a smaller spare. extra prop and tools (under the floor) We will be modifying the cuddie for a porta-throne and some other storage stuff the wife will probably enjoy. My carpenter buddy will be coming down this week to measure out the boxes *so he can have put them together in his shop. Also all this doesn't exceed the boats 1000 lb weight capacity. including the Mrs. and myself. PLUS, with the exception of the seat boxes, all this stuff can be installed at the launch site so there's not an extra burden on the trailer or the hull while towing. I'll have to take pictures of the process. BTW, Many tanks to John H. for allowing me to examine his camper trailer to get some ideas on building my boat. it's amazing how much stuff can be installed in *small quarters with maximum efficiency.. I was very impressed! =========== You're going to need nothing less than a big Leece-Neville alternator and a whole bunch of batteries to drive that 1500 watt inverter. Don't ask me how I know. * :-) Actually I'm using the modified Motorola i was going to send you. Well the trick isn't' to try to push all that stuff at once. I wouldnt' be using a half of the normal power at any given time. The only reason I'm using a 1500 is because I have it and i have a 350w. so.... I also thought it would be interesting to have it all hooked up to an 8-d battery and see how long it would take to run a 120v, block heater in a 10 gal tank and see how the battery would last heating the water up to 150 degrees. just something to dink with of course and no practicality, but..... ?;^ ) ======= Sounds like a plan Tim. If I may, I've used solar showers quite a bit and they work well, might find a couple plastic jerry jugs and paint them black to give the temp a little boost. Stowed on deck of course. Also, the hand pumps work good for potable water, people use less if they have to pump rather than just opening the faucet. Just my 2c. Thanks man. i know exactly what you mean, but actually this is a 23' boat where i need the maximum efficiency for the comodities i'm using. There's not going to be room for a shower, but I suppose i should have posted that i'm also going to have a hand held nozzle like what you would find at a kitchen sink *which will be good for 'hosing off' and and a small electric pump will work good for that. Tim, don't bother with a pump, or bother using the pump for that. Use a pole and keep a couple of those Solar Shower bags on deck during the day. Just hang the bag from a pole holder and oar or something and you have nice warm water to wash off at the end of the day... Really, they work great, no wiring necessary And don't forget the clothesline. And a place to throw the trash. trash bin for what little there will be is in the design,a nd clothsline? in my younger years, on my ancient Chris Craft, i used to hang my swim trunks on the radio's whip antenna, it also worked good for bra's and panties too! |
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On Jan 9, 2:32*pm, Gene wrote:
On Sat, 8 Jan 2011 12:01:47 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote: OK, this sounds like a lot of stuff and it probably is, but due to compactness and available space management it's going to be OK. First, we took the loose floor out of the 23' Marquis. nothing wrong with the plywood, but somebody had taken the floor out before and just literally cut the wood to fit, set it in tacked it down to the stringers, and put carpet over it. No gluing or fiber/epoxy . *Well, that made the front seats rather wobbly, and seeing they are captains style chairs on an aluminum pillar I figured there was a lot of wasted space so they have to go. *This 20' junker (Tri-Sonic) i bought has a good fuel tank and is made on the order of the one in the Marquis. a 26 gal. And will fit on the starboard side and be tied together. We've already pulled the drawings off the 'net to see how it is done and done right, so now I'll have double the fuel capacity.. Then we are going to make a couple storage boxes to place below the front seats. This will provide lots of room for fresh water storage, a small sink will be mounted in the top of the box with drainage to go to the Bildge. I don't think that rinsing out a coffee cup or brushing your teeth will hurt the Ohio river *when the bilge pump kicks in. underneath that box will be a removable plastic 10 gal. freshwater tank which will be fed to a spigot via a small 12v RV pump. Also, I'm entertaining hot water via a heat exchange *from the engine, OR using a *heating element. *I already have mounted my 200a battery isolator and 1500w *inverter and this will be more than ample to feed a coffee pot and small microwave which will be located in the box on the port side. All this will be inside securable closet doors that will be sturdy for a pounding. No reason to have stuff spill out because you hit a wake hard or something like that. I'm also finding room to mount a small 120v "dorm' refrigerator which i already have,and I've also found room for 2 8D batteries to be fueled by the inverter. A standard automotive battery will still be for the engine. And i already have the 180a. Alternator to install with room to carry a smaller spare. extra prop and tools (under the floor) We will be modifying the cuddie for a porta-throne and some other storage stuff the wife will probably enjoy. My carpenter buddy will be coming down this week to measure out the boxes *so he can have put them together in his shop. Also all this doesn't exceed the boats 1000 lb weight capacity. including the Mrs. and myself. PLUS, with the exception of the seat boxes, all this stuff can be installed at the launch site so there's not an extra burden on the trailer or the hull while towing. I'll have to take pictures of the process. BTW, Many tanks to John H. for allowing me to examine his camper trailer to get some ideas on building my boat. it's amazing how much stuff can be installed in *small quarters with maximum efficiency. I was very impressed! Sounds like a GREAT project.... I wished I lived closer so I could help..... -- It is usually futile to try to talk facts and analysis to people who are enjoying a sense of moral superiority in their ignorance. *-Thomas Sowell Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC. Homepage *http://pamandgene.tranquilrefuge.net/boating/the_boat/my_boat.htm Fort� Agent 6.00 Build 1186 i wish you did to, Gene, the neat science about the whole deal is we aren't really sacrificing any interior room. just taking advantage of the wasted space.that's already there, and trying to put some "I already thought of that" into the project. |
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