On 1/31/2011 4:30 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 31 Jan 2011 14:45:33 -0500,
wrote:

On 1/31/11 2:42 PM, Frogwatch wrote:
Obamas EPA has ruled that refiners can be forced to produce 15%
ethanol fuel. Of course, this will destroy many existing engines,
Just try to find ethanol free fuel. Even at marinas it is not often
available. Not only will this destroy engines, it will kill people
whose boat fuel systems leak due to the ethanol, another case of WTF
for Obama.


Oh, puh-lease.


It is true that most manufacturers limit ethanol to 10% if you like
your warranty.
The Saturn had first one injector, then another, then they replaced the
last two and yanked the fuel tank and entire system. They didn't offer a
reason at the time but later a mechanic said it was ethanol, which was
just getting into wide use at the time.
They were getting ready to replace the injectors etc for a second time
when it was replaced.
Some Snot nose know it all's that tout the ethanol industry line
really are funny.

On 1/31/11 5:36 PM, LilAbner wrote:
On 1/31/2011 4:20 PM, Spooker wrote:
In articleJ_udnfIOYJAxvdrQnZ2dnUVZ_jKdnZ2d@earthlink .com, payer3389
@mypacks.net says...

On 1/31/11 3:47 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 31 Jan 2011 14:45:33 -0500,
wrote:

On 1/31/11 2:42 PM, Frogwatch wrote:
Obamas EPA has ruled that refiners can be forced to produce 15%
ethanol fuel. Of course, this will destroy many existing engines,
Just try to find ethanol free fuel. Even at marinas it is not often
available. Not only will this destroy engines, it will kill people
whose boat fuel systems leak due to the ethanol, another case of WTF
for Obama.


Oh, puh-lease.

He's just whacked out because Obama is black.


I never had any fuel-related problems with my Merc or Yamaha engines.
Frogwatch does not maintain his boats properly, so one can imagine how
poorly he maintains his outboard. He also apparently has no external
fuel filter on his boat, and probably doesn't change the little one
inside his outboard.

I know you try to make people here think you are the brightest person
alive, but maybe you should do some reading. Ethanol in fact IS harmful.
Try your hand at google.

http://www.factsaboutethanol.org/200...d-boat-motors-
dont-mix/


BS .Add water


All my outboard boats since 1992 had external fuel filters and the last
Mercs and the Yamahas had 10-micron filters. I never had any fuel
problems. The 10-micron filters do their job.

On 1/31/11 6:00 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 31 Jan 2011 15:50:52 -0500,
wrote:

On 1/31/11 3:47 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 31 Jan 2011 14:45:33 -0500,
wrote:

On 1/31/11 2:42 PM, Frogwatch wrote:
Obamas EPA has ruled that refiners can be forced to produce 15%
ethanol fuel. Of course, this will destroy many existing engines,
Just try to find ethanol free fuel. Even at marinas it is not often
available. Not only will this destroy engines, it will kill people
whose boat fuel systems leak due to the ethanol, another case of WTF
for Obama.


Oh, puh-lease.

He's just whacked out because Obama is black.


I never had any fuel-related problems with my Merc or Yamaha engines.
Frogwatch does not maintain his boats properly, so one can imagine how
poorly he maintains his outboard. He also apparently has no external
fuel filter on his boat, and probably doesn't change the little one
inside his outboard.

There are lots of people who do have problems. I think it is because
they don't use the gas fast enough and they don't have a good water
separator/filter. There is always a conversation going on over at
pontoon boats about that. Those boys do have a lot of trailer queens
that don't seem to get used much.


A good external fuel filter is not expensive.

In article e3d53c58-65b4-46df-b3f6-5f93c1f9e291
@m16g2000prc.googlegroups.com, says...

Obamas EPA has ruled that refiners can be forced to produce 15%
ethanol fuel. Of course, this will destroy many existing engines,
Just try to find ethanol free fuel. Even at marinas it is not often
available. Not only will this destroy engines, it will kill people
whose boat fuel systems leak due to the ethanol, another case of WTF
for Obama.

Just what we need turning food into fuel. If you think Egypt was about
democracy you are wrong it was about food prices.

In article , payer3389
@mypacks.net says...

On 1/31/11 3:47 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 31 Jan 2011 14:45:33 -0500,
wrote:

On 1/31/11 2:42 PM, Frogwatch wrote:
Obamas EPA has ruled that refiners can be forced to produce 15%
ethanol fuel. Of course, this will destroy many existing engines,
Just try to find ethanol free fuel. Even at marinas it is not often
available. Not only will this destroy engines, it will kill people
whose boat fuel systems leak due to the ethanol, another case of WTF
for Obama.


Oh, puh-lease.

He's just whacked out because Obama is black.


I never had any fuel-related problems with my Merc or Yamaha engines.
Frogwatch does not maintain his boats properly, so one can imagine how
poorly he maintains his outboard. He also apparently has no external
fuel filter on his boat, and probably doesn't change the little one
inside his outboard.

That's because they were drive-way queens. Your problem was the rubber
seals dry rotting.

On 2/1/11 7:09 AM, BAR wrote:
In articlee3d53c58-65b4-46df-b3f6-5f93c1f9e291
@m16g2000prc.googlegroups.com, says...

Obamas EPA has ruled that refiners can be forced to produce 15%
ethanol fuel. Of course, this will destroy many existing engines,
Just try to find ethanol free fuel. Even at marinas it is not often
available. Not only will this destroy engines, it will kill people
whose boat fuel systems leak due to the ethanol, another case of WTF
for Obama.

Just what we need turning food into fuel. If you think Egypt was about
democracy you are wrong it was about food prices.


Read up on cellulosic ethanol, **** for brains.

On 2/1/11 7:16 AM, BAR wrote:
In articleJ_udnfIOYJAxvdrQnZ2dnUVZ_jKdnZ2d@earthlink .com, payer3389
@mypacks.net says...

On 1/31/11 3:47 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 31 Jan 2011 14:45:33 -0500,
wrote:

On 1/31/11 2:42 PM, Frogwatch wrote:
Obamas EPA has ruled that refiners can be forced to produce 15%
ethanol fuel. Of course, this will destroy many existing engines,
Just try to find ethanol free fuel. Even at marinas it is not often
available. Not only will this destroy engines, it will kill people
whose boat fuel systems leak due to the ethanol, another case of WTF
for Obama.


Oh, puh-lease.

He's just whacked out because Obama is black.


I never had any fuel-related problems with my Merc or Yamaha engines.
Frogwatch does not maintain his boats properly, so one can imagine how
poorly he maintains his outboard. He also apparently has no external
fuel filter on his boat, and probably doesn't change the little one
inside his outboard.

That's because they were drive-way queens. Your problem was the rubber
seals dry rotting.




This from an asshole who hasn't owned a boat for many, many years, if he
ever owned one.

Oh, and if my boats were "driveway queens," I would have been much more
likely to have ethanol-based problems. If you had taken a few science
courses instead of playing toy soldier, you might have known that.

Your "Navy" family should have bitten the bullet and sent you to a
Jesuit high school, where you would have learned to appreciate learning
for learning's sake.

In article ,
says...

On Mon, 31 Jan 2011 14:45:33 -0500, Harryk
wrote:

On 1/31/11 2:42 PM, Frogwatch wrote:
Obamas EPA has ruled that refiners can be forced to produce 15%
ethanol fuel. Of course, this will destroy many existing engines,
Just try to find ethanol free fuel. Even at marinas it is not often
available. Not only will this destroy engines, it will kill people
whose boat fuel systems leak due to the ethanol, another case of WTF
for Obama.


Oh, puh-lease.


It is true that most manufacturers limit ethanol to 10% if you like
your warranty.

Well, because Harry is Harry, the manufacturers of Harry's engines gave
him special warranties.

In article , LilAbner
says...

On 1/31/2011 4:30 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 31 Jan 2011 14:45:33 -0500,
wrote:

On 1/31/11 2:42 PM, Frogwatch wrote:
Obamas EPA has ruled that refiners can be forced to produce 15%
ethanol fuel. Of course, this will destroy many existing engines,
Just try to find ethanol free fuel. Even at marinas it is not often
available. Not only will this destroy engines, it will kill people
whose boat fuel systems leak due to the ethanol, another case of WTF
for Obama.


Oh, puh-lease.


It is true that most manufacturers limit ethanol to 10% if you like
your warranty.
The Saturn had first one injector, then another, then they replaced the
last two and yanked the fuel tank and entire system. They didn't offer a
reason at the time but later a mechanic said it was ethanol, which was
just getting into wide use at the time.
They were getting ready to replace the injectors etc for a second time
when it was replaced.
Some Snot nose know it all's that tout the ethanol industry line
really are funny.

No, no. Harry says that ethanol is fine, so it's fine. End of story.

On 2/1/11 12:09 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 01 Feb 2011 07:21:36 -0500,
wrote:

On 2/1/11 7:09 AM, BAR wrote:
In articlee3d53c58-65b4-46df-b3f6-5f93c1f9e291
@m16g2000prc.googlegroups.com, says...

Obamas EPA has ruled that refiners can be forced to produce 15%
ethanol fuel. Of course, this will destroy many existing engines,
Just try to find ethanol free fuel. Even at marinas it is not often
available. Not only will this destroy engines, it will kill people
whose boat fuel systems leak due to the ethanol, another case of WTF
for Obama.

Just what we need turning food into fuel. If you think Egypt was about
democracy you are wrong it was about food prices.


Read up on cellulosic ethanol,

Unfortunately virtually all of the ethanol made here comes from corn.


That doesn't mean we're going to be forever stupid.