bpuharic wrote:
On Sat, 12 Feb 2011 13:20:50 -0500, Gene
wrote:


On Sat, 12 Feb 2011 12:56:30 -0500, wrote:


On Sat, 12 Feb 2011 11:10:09 -0500, wrote:


All knives should be banned. Regardless of their usefulness to society
when used legally knives should be banned.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny_c.../12/2011-02-12
_cops_continue_hunt_for_brooklyn_sicko_who_left_4_ dead_2
_injured_in_stabbing_carj.html

11000 killed by guns last year. not that many by knives

Making up numbers as we go along? There were 9,369.
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cr...-with-firearms

aw, gee. the numbers are highly variable. they've been as high as
17,000 in the last 20 years. and as low as around 10,000



Most murders? South Africa. They have gun control - competency laws.

tell you what. when the US becomes a 3rd world country you let me
know.


People with common sense and a sense of history realize why
prohibition failed.... this is no different.....

yeah. the US isn't a 3rd world country. although the NRA is trying
hard...


Really Bob? I know you are blind, but have someone read you some of the
NRA's positions.

bpuharic wrote:
On Sat, 12 Feb 2011 14:41:24 -0500, Gene
wrote:


On Sat, 12 Feb 2011 10:58:25 -0800, wrote:


You paint it as all or nothing. It's not. There's something called
common sense, to which you claim to be a subscriber.

How about trying to keep guns out of the hands of the mentally insane
for starters? Does that encroach on your freedom to bear arms?

I'm perfectly OK with keeping ANY sort of weapon out of the hands of
the insane, even pencils and door keys.

So, the Federal Gun Control Act of 1968 prohibits the possession of
firearms by the mentally ill. How's that law working for you?

not too well since the NRA gutted it and allowed the insane AND people
on the terrorist watch list to have guns


Oh, I know.... we could use the South African competency laws as a
model.... oh, heck.... but their rate of gun murders is about 4 times
what it is here!

i love it when the right compares teh US to a 3rd world country.


I love when the left posts like morons and ignore proper capitalization
and spelling.

On Sat, 12 Feb 2011 14:41:24 -0500, Gene
wrote:

On Sat, 12 Feb 2011 10:58:25 -0800, jps wrote:

On Sat, 12 Feb 2011 13:20:50 -0500, Gene
wrote:

On Sat, 12 Feb 2011 12:56:30 -0500, bpuharic wrote:

On Sat, 12 Feb 2011 11:10:09 -0500, BAR wrote:

All knives should be banned. Regardless of their usefulness to society
when used legally knives should be banned.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny_c.../12/2011-02-12
_cops_continue_hunt_for_brooklyn_sicko_who_le ft_4_dead_2
_injured_in_stabbing_carj.html

11000 killed by guns last year. not that many by knives

Making up numbers as we go along? There were 9,369.
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cr...-with-firearms

Total number of murders? There were 16,204.
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_mur-crime-murders

Most murders? South Africa. They have gun control - competency laws.
http://www.southafrica.info/public_s...ens/gunlaw.htm

Second most gun murders? Columbia. Attempts to eliminate guns?
Apparently, an abject failure, but then, you can only eliminate the
legal ones....
http://www.southafrica.info/public_s...ens/gunlaw.htm

Third most murders? Thailand... Gun control? Yep. Working? Nope.
http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/...s-in-thailand/

People with common sense and a sense of history realize why
prohibition failed.... this is no different.....

You paint it as all or nothing. It's not. There's something called
common sense, to which you claim to be a subscriber.

How about trying to keep guns out of the hands of the mentally insane
for starters? Does that encroach on your freedom to bear arms?

I'm perfectly OK with keeping ANY sort of weapon out of the hands of
the insane, even pencils and door keys.

So, the Federal Gun Control Act of 1968 prohibits the possession of
firearms by the mentally ill. How's that law working for you?

Maybe we should pass a law that REALLY prohibits the possession of
firearms by the mentally ill. Or one that REALLY, REALLY prohibits the
possession of firearms by the mentally ill.

Oh, I know.... we could use the South African competency laws as a
model.... oh, heck.... but their rate of gun murders is about 4 times
what it is here!

Oh bother, there's that pesky reality thing, again.... we could ignore
all or some of it, I guess.....

You'd like to ignore it, apparently. Your supposed equivalency
between the US and South Africa is laughable. Have you seen the
number of impoverished communities lacking income or food?

You and I would be desperate to do whatever it took to support our
families or protect their safety in such circumstances -- so it is no
surprise and it's disingenuous of you to use such a weak example.

*Some* of the political types are afraid to do anything that might run
counter to the NRA, including the funding of real enforcement. R's
heart the NRA big time.

On Sat, 12 Feb 2011 20:31:29 -0500, Outrigger wrote:

On 2/12/2011 4:06 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Sat, 12 Feb 2011 14:41:24 -0500, Gene
wrote:

On Sat, 12 Feb 2011 10:58:25 -0800, wrote:


You paint it as all or nothing. It's not. There's something called
common sense, to which you claim to be a subscriber.

How about trying to keep guns out of the hands of the mentally insane
for starters? Does that encroach on your freedom to bear arms?

I'm perfectly OK with keeping ANY sort of weapon out of the hands of
the insane, even pencils and door keys.

So, the Federal Gun Control Act of 1968 prohibits the possession of
firearms by the mentally ill. How's that law working for you?

not too well since the NRA gutted it and allowed the insane AND people
on the terrorist watch list to have guns


Oh, I know.... we could use the South African competency laws as a
model.... oh, heck.... but their rate of gun murders is about 4 times
what it is here!

i love it when the right compares teh US to a 3rd world country.

You're probably on one list or another.

I smell an asshole! Plonk!

On Sat, 12 Feb 2011 21:41:59 -0500, L G wrote:

bpuharic wrote:
On Sat, 12 Feb 2011 14:41:24 -0500, Gene
wrote:




Oh, I know.... we could use the South African competency laws as a
model.... oh, heck.... but their rate of gun murders is about 4 times
what it is here!

i love it when the right compares teh US to a 3rd world country.


I love when the left posts like morons and ignore proper capitalization
and spelling.

gee. my argument is so convincing

he is reduced to commenting on spelling.

oh well...

On Sat, 12 Feb 2011 21:40:45 -0500, L G wrote:

bpuharic wrote:
On Sat, 12 Feb 2011 13:20:50 -0500, Gene
wrote:


On Sat, 12 Feb 2011 12:56:30 -0500, wrote:

Really Bob? I know you are blind, but have someone read you some of the
NRA's positions.

which ones? the ones that are pro-terrorist or the ones that say the
insane should have guns?

On Sun, 13 Feb 2011 09:26:19 -0500, Gene
wrote:

On Sat, 12 Feb 2011 21:47:09 -0800, jps wrote:

On Sat, 12 Feb 2011 14:41:24 -0500, Gene
wrote:

On Sat, 12 Feb 2011 10:58:25 -0800, jps wrote:

On Sat, 12 Feb 2011 13:20:50 -0500, Gene
wrote:

On Sat, 12 Feb 2011 12:56:30 -0500, bpuharic wrote:

On Sat, 12 Feb 2011 11:10:09 -0500, BAR wrote:

All knives should be banned. Regardless of their usefulness to society
when used legally knives should be banned.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny_c.../12/2011-02-12
_cops_continue_hunt_for_brooklyn_sicko_who_ left_4_dead_2
_injured_in_stabbing_carj.html

11000 killed by guns last year. not that many by knives

Making up numbers as we go along? There were 9,369.
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cr...-with-firearms

Total number of murders? There were 16,204.
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_mur-crime-murders

Most murders? South Africa. They have gun control - competency laws.
http://www.southafrica.info/public_s...ens/gunlaw.htm

Second most gun murders? Columbia. Attempts to eliminate guns?
Apparently, an abject failure, but then, you can only eliminate the
legal ones....
http://www.southafrica.info/public_s...ens/gunlaw.htm

Third most murders? Thailand... Gun control? Yep. Working? Nope.
http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/...s-in-thailand/

People with common sense and a sense of history realize why
prohibition failed.... this is no different.....

You paint it as all or nothing. It's not. There's something called
common sense, to which you claim to be a subscriber.

How about trying to keep guns out of the hands of the mentally insane
for starters? Does that encroach on your freedom to bear arms?

I'm perfectly OK with keeping ANY sort of weapon out of the hands of
the insane, even pencils and door keys.

So, the Federal Gun Control Act of 1968 prohibits the possession of
firearms by the mentally ill. How's that law working for you?

Maybe we should pass a law that REALLY prohibits the possession of
firearms by the mentally ill. Or one that REALLY, REALLY prohibits the
possession of firearms by the mentally ill.

Oh, I know.... we could use the South African competency laws as a
model.... oh, heck.... but their rate of gun murders is about 4 times
what it is here!

Oh bother, there's that pesky reality thing, again.... we could ignore
all or some of it, I guess.....

Have you seen the number of impoverished communities lacking income or food?


Have I SEEN the number of impoverished communities? When did YOU just
get back from your extended tour of South Africa?

The World Bank ranks South Africa as "Upper Middle Income." Since you
are home from the fact finding tour, now it is time to set the World
Bank straight on their inaccurate assessments.

Actually, I think I just learned that they no longer need to asses
actual monetary conditions, they can count gun murders and thus rank
the countries with respect to economic well being.... that really will
be easier than all of those spread sheets.....

Oh, and you think the killing is happening in the "upper middle
income" areas of the country?

Delude on my friend.

bpuharic wrote:
On Sat, 12 Feb 2011 21:40:45 -0500, L wrote:


bpuharic wrote:

On Sat, 12 Feb 2011 13:20:50 -0500, Gene
wrote:



On Sat, 12 Feb 2011 12:56:30 -0500, wrote:


Really Bob? I know you are blind, but have someone read you some of the
NRA's positions.

which ones? the ones that are pro-terrorist or the ones that say the
insane should have guns?

Did jps read them to you?