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They are now saying the main source, a British asset who never talked
to the US, was a fraud. It is interesting that Blair is not getting
more of the blame.
All of the things Powell was saying at the UN (mobile weapons labs and
WMD accidents that killed a number of workers) came from the Brits.


The main "source" for mobile weapons labs "intelligence" was Curveball.
Curveball was a German "asset."
An embezzler, possibly alcoholic, looking for a green card.
He was discredited totally by UN weapons inspectors before the war was
launched.

We can't let facts get in the way of blaming Bush for everything tho.

This is some of the most hilarious bull**** I've see in a long time.
Bush/Cheney/Tenet/Powell had nothing to do with it.
It's all Tony Blairs's fault!

On Mon, 21 Mar 2011 15:31:48 -0500, Boating All Out
wrote:

In article ,
says...


They are now saying the main source, a British asset who never talked
to the US, was a fraud. It is interesting that Blair is not getting
more of the blame.
All of the things Powell was saying at the UN (mobile weapons labs and
WMD accidents that killed a number of workers) came from the Brits.


The main "source" for mobile weapons labs "intelligence" was Curveball.
Curveball was a German "asset."
An embezzler, possibly alcoholic, looking for a green card.
He was discredited totally by UN weapons inspectors before the war was
launched.

We can't let facts get in the way of blaming Bush for everything tho.

This is some of the most hilarious bull**** I've see in a long time.
Bush/Cheney/Tenet/Powell had nothing to do with it.
It's all Tony Blairs's fault!


Blair certainly has blood on his hands, but for this country,
Bush/Cheney/Tenet/Powell (in a lesser role) promoted this "intel" as
the excuse to go to war, with no actual corroborating evidence.

They have equal if not a greater amount of blood on their hands.

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says...


The Brits were still parroting his stories and fed the information to
Powell.


A lot of this "independent confirmation" was the same false info making
the rounds through the intel agencies of different countries.

We can't let facts get in the way of blaming Bush for everything tho.

This is some of the most hilarious bull**** I've see in a long time.
Bush/Cheney/Tenet/Powell had nothing to do with it.
It's all Tony Blairs's fault!

I never said Bush et al were not at fault. That is the part you all
miss. I think the whole ****up in Iraq was unnecessary.
We should have left in 1991. Every president since then shares some of
the blame.

Got news for you. GW Bush invaded Iraq.
Nobody else.
You sure want to blame everybody else for the Iraq war.

Obama said he would stop both wars yet he clings to the same schedule
"the idiot" came up with. It makes you wonder who the idiot (or the
liar) really is.


GW Bush invaded Iraq. Nobody else. I see only one idiot.
GW Bush and crew lied. I see only those liars.
Obama never said he would "stop both wars" on a dime. That's crazy.
The only schedule "the idiot" had for Iraq troop withdrawal was the one
Maliki made him swallow and he cut that deal before he left office.
Obama's honoring that. All troops out of Iraq by the end of this year.
So Obama "lied" about his 16 month campaign withdrawal plan.
He decided to listen to military advisers like Petraeus instead of the
likes of Cheney, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, et al.
So just vote for his opponent in '12 and see how that goes.
GW Bush never wanted a timetable for anything. You forgot?
There was mo timetable for Afghanistan before Obama.
Afghanistan troop draw down starts in July and complete exit by 2014.
Obama caught all kinds of hell from left and right for that.
"Too long" from the left, and "we want endless war" from the right.
You can blame Obama for whatever happens in Afghanistan.
He's got absolutely not a ****ing thing to do with starting the Iraq
war, nor did Reagan, Bush I, or Clinton.
No matter what bull**** you come up with to defend GW Bush and his
crowd.

On Mon, 21 Mar 2011 18:31:33 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 21 Mar 2011 15:31:48 -0500, Boating All Out
wrote:

In article ,
says...


They are now saying the main source, a British asset who never talked
to the US, was a fraud. It is interesting that Blair is not getting
more of the blame.
All of the things Powell was saying at the UN (mobile weapons labs and
WMD accidents that killed a number of workers) came from the Brits.


The main "source" for mobile weapons labs "intelligence" was Curveball.
Curveball was a German "asset."
An embezzler, possibly alcoholic, looking for a green card.
He was discredited totally by UN weapons inspectors before the war was
launched.

The Brits were still parroting his stories and fed the information to
Powell.

We can't let facts get in the way of blaming Bush for everything tho.

This is some of the most hilarious bull**** I've see in a long time.
Bush/Cheney/Tenet/Powell had nothing to do with it.
It's all Tony Blairs's fault!

I never said Bush et al were not at fault. That is the part you all
miss. I think the whole ****up in Iraq was unnecessary.
We should have left in 1991. Every president since then shares some of
the blame.
Obama said he would stop both wars yet he clings to the same schedule
"the idiot" came up with. It makes you wonder who the idiot (or the
liar) really is.


Completely untrue. He's implemented a complete withdrawal of combat
troops as per the agreement with the Iraqi gov't. The remaining forces
are winding down. It's clear who the idiot was... Bush. It's clear who
told him what to do.. Cheney, the other war criminal.

On Sun, 20 Mar 2011 20:02:46 -0400, Gene
wrote:

On Sun, 20 Mar 2011 14:44:57 -0400, BAR wrote:

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On Sat, 19 Mar 2011 12:39:06 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:

Is Obama about to attack Libya simply to steal their oil for George
Soros? It makes sense considering that Obama gave US taxpayer money
to Soros for drilling offshore Brazil. Remember, this is an admin
that thinks the Egyptian dictator Mubarek was a good guy (Remember
what Biden said about Mubarek not being a dictator). France is just
doing what they always do, backing whoever will supply them with oil
as most of Libya?s oil goes thru France.

Let's take the first question. Is Obama attacking Libya?

Yes. Obama gave the order to shoot around 100 Tomahawk cruise missiles
at targets in Libya. Therefore Obama attacked Libya. You may say that
the UN gave Obama permission to shoot the cruise missiles but that is
just political cover for Obama attacking Libya.


Point well taken. You are correct, yet we have no troops on the
ground. Sense any difference from Bush????

Obama hasn't mobilized half our military force around Libya in
anticipation of a campaign.