Geeze....I could sell
you a pile of common rocks and call them diamonds....

Sounds kind of like the last presidential election snerk

On Mon, 21 Mar 2011 13:02:46 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 21/03/2011 12:40 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 21 Mar 2011 12:09:57 -0600,
wrote:

On 21/03/2011 11:39 AM, wrote:
On Sun, 20 Mar 2011 20:14:00 -0700, wrote:

On Sun, 20 Mar 2011 21:32:52 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 20 Mar 2011 20:01:19 -0400, Gene
wrote:

On Sun, 20 Mar 2011 09:56:01 -0400, John
wrote:

On Sun, 20 Mar 2011 08:56:05 -0400,
wrote:

On Sat, 19 Mar 2011 12:39:06 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:

Is Obama about to attack Libya simply to steal their oil for George
Soros? It makes sense considering that Obama gave US taxpayer money
to Soros for drilling offshore Brazil. Remember, this is an admin
that thinks the Egyptian dictator Mubarek was a good guy (Remember
what Biden said about Mubarek not being a dictator). France is just
doing what they always do, backing whoever will supply them with oil
as most of Libya’s oil goes thru France.

Let's take the first question. Is Obama attacking Libya?

Yes. Maybe you've been out fishing for the last couple days.

http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/u-s...fense-targets/

Of course, if you define 'attack' in certain ways, you could say that Bush
didn't attack Iraq either.

Did Bush put troops on the ground? How is this the same?

Bush didn't put troops on the ground for over 2 years, lets see how it
goes in Libya before we start patting ourselves on the back.

Two years? From when he decided to go after Saddam, perhaps. Other
that you're just rewriting the facts.

Two years of no fly zones, following 8 years under Clinton and over a
year with GHWB.

The question is, what is our exit strategy in Libya?

We don't seem to have one for any of our other military adventures and
we are still in all of them.

Obama is going to use this as an excuse with Congress to continue his
out of control debt-spending. Nothing worse than a liberla-debtor in
debtors denial. Congress should just say balanced budget, you run out
of money you are closed down.

Then the real steps toward recovery will occur.

So, when Obama called for PayGo and the Republicans said no, I guess
that makes it Obama's fault in your tiny brain.

Obama, pay as you go? Who are you kidding?

PAYGO is meaningless other than the name only. You verspend $ 1.6
trillion a year and you call that pay as you go? Geez....I could sell
you a pile of common rocks and call them diamonds....

Pay as you go as opposed to Obama's lips a moving means you spend at or
less that what you take in. Obama lies. The fleabagger ways, lie, lie,
lie, then deny. And when that doesn't work make exuses.

Watch, Obama will be over budget shortly and he will either deny or make
excuses.

You're an idiot. It's exactly what was used previously, and it worked
fine.

On Mon, 21 Mar 2011 14:43:56 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 21 Mar 2011 07:50:55 -0400, Gene
wrote:

On Sun, 20 Mar 2011 21:32:52 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 20 Mar 2011 20:01:19 -0400, Gene
wrote:

On Sun, 20 Mar 2011 09:56:01 -0400, John H
wrote:

On Sun, 20 Mar 2011 08:56:05 -0400, Gene
wrote:

On Sat, 19 Mar 2011 12:39:06 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:

Is Obama about to attack Libya simply to steal their oil for George
Soros? It makes sense considering that Obama gave US taxpayer money
to Soros for drilling offshore Brazil. Remember, this is an admin
that thinks the Egyptian dictator Mubarek was a good guy (Remember
what Biden said about Mubarek not being a dictator). France is just
doing what they always do, backing whoever will supply them with oil
as most of Libya’s oil goes thru France.

Let's take the first question. Is Obama attacking Libya?

Yes. Maybe you've been out fishing for the last couple days.

http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/u-s...fense-targets/

Of course, if you define 'attack' in certain ways, you could say that Bush
didn't attack Iraq either.

Did Bush put troops on the ground? How is this the same?

Bush didn't put troops on the ground for over 2 years, lets see how it
goes in Libya before we start patting ourselves on the back.

What? Which 2 years?

The 2 years he simply maintained the no fly zones. (that were already
9 years old).

We will be left with the same question here. What do we do if Qdaffy
is still there in 11 years, simply oppressing his people up close and
personal, not by air power?

We were told the Iraq no fly zones were to save the Kurds with the
implication that the Northern Alliance could topple Saddam on the
ground. We all seem to forget that part.

My bet, we dig up the terror link again and invade to "get the
terrorists" like we did in Afghanistan. We know there is one there.
The Brits sent al-Megrahi back for oil leases.

You're talking about GWB???? While he lied to the world about Saddam?
That's your argument? Good grief.

In article ,
says...


They are now saying the main source, a British asset who never talked
to the US, was a fraud. It is interesting that Blair is not getting
more of the blame.
All of the things Powell was saying at the UN (mobile weapons labs and
WMD accidents that killed a number of workers) came from the Brits.


The main "source" for mobile weapons labs "intelligence" was Curveball.
Curveball was a German "asset."
An embezzler, possibly alcoholic, looking for a green card.
He was discredited totally by UN weapons inspectors before the war was
launched.

We can't let facts get in the way of blaming Bush for everything tho.

This is some of the most hilarious bull**** I've see in a long time.
Bush/Cheney/Tenet/Powell had nothing to do with it.
It's all Tony Blairs's fault!

On Mon, 21 Mar 2011 15:31:48 -0500, Boating All Out
wrote:

In article ,
says...


They are now saying the main source, a British asset who never talked
to the US, was a fraud. It is interesting that Blair is not getting
more of the blame.
All of the things Powell was saying at the UN (mobile weapons labs and
WMD accidents that killed a number of workers) came from the Brits.


The main "source" for mobile weapons labs "intelligence" was Curveball.
Curveball was a German "asset."
An embezzler, possibly alcoholic, looking for a green card.
He was discredited totally by UN weapons inspectors before the war was
launched.

We can't let facts get in the way of blaming Bush for everything tho.

This is some of the most hilarious bull**** I've see in a long time.
Bush/Cheney/Tenet/Powell had nothing to do with it.
It's all Tony Blairs's fault!


Blair certainly has blood on his hands, but for this country,
Bush/Cheney/Tenet/Powell (in a lesser role) promoted this "intel" as
the excuse to go to war, with no actual corroborating evidence.

They have equal if not a greater amount of blood on their hands.

On Sun, 20 Mar 2011 19:35:03 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 20/03/2011 3:34 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Sat, 19 Mar 2011 12:39:06 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:


wonder if he knows we dont buy libyan oil

oh well...

Probably does not. Seems ike Obama has surounded himself with fools.
Can't have anyone smarter than the head chimp.

racist. do you often call black guys 'chimps'??


Obama knows he is a front man puppet

HAHAHAAAH bush lived in cheney's BVD's, sucking his ass!

more racism!


If he doesn't realize it, then he
must be one real dumb chimp. Because even this chimp knows it.
Americans might not see it, but US either follows or leads with other
countries in unison. Take Ottawa, US jumps, so does Canada. It is
coordianted. US nor Caanda is run by domesic voters, Obama jumps to
hidden masters. Big money types.

try taking off your hood to type next time


Bet if Osama Bin Laddens brother called up Obama on an urgent financial
or politial reason Obama would answer. Or if the head of
Harvard...Oxford....Bilderbergs.

On 21/03/2011 3:43 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 21 Mar 2011 11:40:55 -0700, wrote:

On Mon, 21 Mar 2011 12:09:57 -0600,
wrote:

On 21/03/2011 11:39 AM, wrote:
On Sun, 20 Mar 2011 20:14:00 -0700, wrote:

On Sun, 20 Mar 2011 21:32:52 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 20 Mar 2011 20:01:19 -0400, Gene
wrote:

On Sun, 20 Mar 2011 09:56:01 -0400, John
wrote:

On Sun, 20 Mar 2011 08:56:05 -0400,
wrote:

On Sat, 19 Mar 2011 12:39:06 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:

Is Obama about to attack Libya simply to steal their oil for George
Soros? It makes sense considering that Obama gave US taxpayer money
to Soros for drilling offshore Brazil. Remember, this is an admin
that thinks the Egyptian dictator Mubarek was a good guy (Remember
what Biden said about Mubarek not being a dictator). France is just
doing what they always do, backing whoever will supply them with oil
as most of Libya’s oil goes thru France.

Let's take the first question. Is Obama attacking Libya?

Yes. Maybe you've been out fishing for the last couple days.

http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/u-s...fense-targets/

Of course, if you define 'attack' in certain ways, you could say that Bush
didn't attack Iraq either.

Did Bush put troops on the ground? How is this the same?

Bush didn't put troops on the ground for over 2 years, lets see how it
goes in Libya before we start patting ourselves on the back.

Two years? From when he decided to go after Saddam, perhaps. Other
that you're just rewriting the facts.

Two years of no fly zones, following 8 years under Clinton and over a
year with GHWB.

The question is, what is our exit strategy in Libya?

We don't seem to have one for any of our other military adventures and
we are still in all of them.

Obama is going to use this as an excuse with Congress to continue his
out of control debt-spending. Nothing worse than a liberla-debtor in
debtors denial. Congress should just say balanced budget, you run out
of money you are closed down.

Then the real steps toward recovery will occur.

So, when Obama called for PayGo and the Republicans said no, I guess
that makes it Obama's fault in your tiny brain.

If paygo doesn't apply to the entitlements and the DoD budget it is
about as significant as cutting the NPR budget.

Paygo is so full of holes it isn't funny. Sort of like saying you have
to balance the budget unless you put it on the credit card.

It is a raving joke. Not worth the time, effort or piece of paper it is
written on.

I still stand by Congress should just say balance the budget, no new
debt - end of discussion.

I put more credence to a crack or herion addict that says they will quit
3 years from now, now give me more dope.

On 21/03/2011 3:45 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Sun, 20 Mar 2011 19:35:03 -0600,
wrote:

On 20/03/2011 3:34 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Sat, 19 Mar 2011 12:39:06 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:


wonder if he knows we dont buy libyan oil

oh well...

Probably does not. Seems ike Obama has surounded himself with fools.
Can't have anyone smarter than the head chimp.

racist. do you often call black guys 'chimps'??


Obama knows he is a front man puppet

HAHAHAAAH bush lived in cheney's BVD's, sucking his ass!

more racism!


If he doesn't realize it, then he
must be one real dumb chimp. Because even this chimp knows it.
Americans might not see it, but US either follows or leads with other
countries in unison. Take Ottawa, US jumps, so does Canada. It is
coordianted. US nor Caanda is run by domesic voters, Obama jumps to
hidden masters. Big money types.

try taking off your hood to type next time


Bet if Osama Bin Laddens brother called up Obama on an urgent financial
or politial reason Obama would answer. Or if the head of
Harvard...Oxford....Bilderbergs.

I call all humans chimps, so? Chimps come in lots of varieties. So are
you a black panther or what? Yep, humans and chimps share a lot of DNA,
so much so you could say humans are a variety of chimps.

Trouble with you fleabaggers is you always use slander and race as an
exuse for your inabilities to think rationally. Pathtic variety of
chimp actually.

Canuck57 wrote:
On 21/03/2011 3:45 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Sun, 20 Mar 2011 19:35:03 -0600,
wrote:

On 20/03/2011 3:34 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Sat, 19 Mar 2011 12:39:06 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:


wonder if he knows we dont buy libyan oil

oh well...

Probably does not. Seems ike Obama has surounded himself with fools.
Can't have anyone smarter than the head chimp.

racist. do you often call black guys 'chimps'??


Obama knows he is a front man puppet

HAHAHAAAH bush lived in cheney's BVD's, sucking his ass!

more racism!


If he doesn't realize it, then he
must be one real dumb chimp. Because even this chimp knows it.
Americans might not see it, but US either follows or leads with other
countries in unison. Take Ottawa, US jumps, so does Canada. It is
coordianted. US nor Caanda is run by domesic voters, Obama jumps to
hidden masters. Big money types.

try taking off your hood to type next time


Bet if Osama Bin Laddens brother called up Obama on an urgent financial
or politial reason Obama would answer. Or if the head of
Harvard...Oxford....Bilderbergs.

I call all humans chimps, so? Chimps come in lots of varieties. So are
you a black panther or what? Yep, humans and chimps share a lot of DNA,
so much so you could say humans are a variety of chimps.

Trouble with you fleabaggers is you always use slander and race as an
exuse for your inabilities to think rationally. Pathtic variety of chimp
actually.


Wait a minute. *You* think you think rationally? You and Froggy are the
most irrational "thinkers" I've ever encountered in usenet. Hell, man,
when it comes to logical, rational thinking, you are seven cans short of
a six pack.

In article ,
says...


The Brits were still parroting his stories and fed the information to
Powell.


A lot of this "independent confirmation" was the same false info making
the rounds through the intel agencies of different countries.

We can't let facts get in the way of blaming Bush for everything tho.

This is some of the most hilarious bull**** I've see in a long time.
Bush/Cheney/Tenet/Powell had nothing to do with it.
It's all Tony Blairs's fault!

I never said Bush et al were not at fault. That is the part you all
miss. I think the whole ****up in Iraq was unnecessary.
We should have left in 1991. Every president since then shares some of
the blame.

Got news for you. GW Bush invaded Iraq.
Nobody else.
You sure want to blame everybody else for the Iraq war.

Obama said he would stop both wars yet he clings to the same schedule
"the idiot" came up with. It makes you wonder who the idiot (or the
liar) really is.


GW Bush invaded Iraq. Nobody else. I see only one idiot.
GW Bush and crew lied. I see only those liars.
Obama never said he would "stop both wars" on a dime. That's crazy.
The only schedule "the idiot" had for Iraq troop withdrawal was the one
Maliki made him swallow and he cut that deal before he left office.
Obama's honoring that. All troops out of Iraq by the end of this year.
So Obama "lied" about his 16 month campaign withdrawal plan.
He decided to listen to military advisers like Petraeus instead of the
likes of Cheney, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, et al.
So just vote for his opponent in '12 and see how that goes.
GW Bush never wanted a timetable for anything. You forgot?
There was mo timetable for Afghanistan before Obama.
Afghanistan troop draw down starts in July and complete exit by 2014.
Obama caught all kinds of hell from left and right for that.
"Too long" from the left, and "we want endless war" from the right.
You can blame Obama for whatever happens in Afghanistan.
He's got absolutely not a ****ing thing to do with starting the Iraq
war, nor did Reagan, Bush I, or Clinton.
No matter what bull**** you come up with to defend GW Bush and his
crowd.