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On 15/05/2011 6:29 AM, wf3h wrote:
On Sun, 15 May 2011 07:53:12 -0400, wrote: On Sat, 14 May 2011 23:09:05 -0400, L G sent the following message wf3h wrote: On Sat, 14 May 2011 14:29:53 -0500, Boating All Out wrote: So I'm watching Fox "news" today, only day I watch it. What I notice more than ever is the consistent, continual whining. You name it, they whine about it. No solutions, just whining. yep, that's the right. everything was fine when wall street was taking all the money out of the economy. now that the middle class has tried to do SOMETHING for itself the right is having a meltdown. "wall street"... Who is/are "wall street" you blind idiot? Wall Street is you and me and everyone else who believes in the Americano dream. Not a game for the faint of heart though. Or people who havn't elevated themselves enough to punctuate and capitalize their screed. more right wing myth virtually no middle class americans get their income from wall steet. that's a right wing myth Funny, I was American middle class, so are many of my friends. 401K, IRA, ROTH investments, only a fool would lend it to uncle Sam at 1% or less interest rates. Better off to buy gold, silver, or even cow futures in Canada. While the liberals and fleabaggers panicked, I bought stock. wall street sucked 10 TRILLION out of the economy and cost 5 million jobs in the last 3 years Going to suck more too, 9/10 stocks on the NYSE are over valued. Can't run the economy on BS forever. But if a country is going so far into debt like the USA is, at some point it will collapse under DEBT. Why would I invest in USA right now? Pending higher taxes be they civic, state, county or federal...a depreciating dollar... low returns... hey, too much risk/return raio for me and others. So we left. Those liberal fleaggers invested in their style of "In Debt We Trust!" got burned. Maybe you need to pick up some conservative 30's style investment books and none of this Obama/Bernanke-feel good crap being psuhed. the american dream is dead. that's a fact. social mobility is better in SWEDEN than it is in america While no dead yet, it is crippled and is dying. Too much freaking debt, dysfunction over priced debt laden governance. It is now harder, but you need to get your crap together now. No free house. the reason the right LOVES this myth of the american dream is it prevents them from having to address the fact the US is a plutocracy Probably is, and fleabaggers voted for it in Obama. so you have, in a sentence, defined how the right is destroying this country Liberalism destroyed it. I do not know of any truly conservative-libertarian type suffering. Not a one. Liberals and fleabaggers overloaded with the worship of DEBT, well, different story. the american dream...that the right uses to beat the middle class into submission was destroyed by the american right It is a earned right. You have to get off your fat lard fleabagger ass and work for it. And when you loose the fleabagger attitude, save up some money and invest it in a business or markets...then you are no longer a fleabagger, but a investor. Money is attracted to those that know how to manage it. -- Take a look at ANY country, more debt is more problems. So why do we allow our governments more debt? Selfishness, greed, denial, ignorance? |
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On Sun, 15 May 2011 16:15:47 -0600, Canuck57
wrote: On 15/05/2011 6:29 AM, wf3h wrote: On Sun, 15 May 2011 07:53:12 -0400, wrote: n. "wall street"... Who is/are "wall street" you blind idiot? Wall Street is you and me and everyone else who believes in the Americano dream. Not a game for the faint of heart though. Or people who havn't elevated themselves enough to punctuate and capitalize their screed. more right wing myth virtually no middle class americans get their income from wall steet. that's a right wing myth Funny, I was American middle class, so are many of my friends. 401K, IRA, ROTH investments, only a fool would lend it to uncle Sam at 1% or less interest rates. Better off to buy gold, silver, or even cow futures in Canada. gee. here in the US the right has destroyed pensions so the middle class has NO retiremrent BUT 401k's....just the kind of ponzi scheme to attack middle class income you right wingers like. While the liberals and fleabaggers panicked, I bought stock. keeps blaming the liberals even though the depression was caused by right wing economic deregulation AND countries with strong uinions...like CANADA...didnt get his as hard as the US did his own country...where he moved...refutes his nonsense. wall street sucked 10 TRILLION out of the economy and cost 5 million jobs in the last 3 years Going to suck more too, 9/10 stocks on the NYSE are over valued. yep. america has drifted so far to the right there's no check on corporate power. US uinon rates in the private sector are 7% vs 30% in canada. we have a right wing that is destroying our country. we have a plutocracy. and you sit in canada, telling us how lucky we are to have the rich, while in canada, the unions protect you. ironic, aint it? Can't run the economy on BS forever. But if a country is going so far into debt like the USA is, at some point it will collapse under DEBT. yep. as the US GINI coefficient SKYROCKETS to new records, and as more and more of our weatlh goes to the richest 1%, our economy collapses but tot he right that's great. it's the american dream Why would I invest in USA right now? Pending higher taxes be they civic, state, county or federal...a depreciating dollar... low returns... hey, too much risk/return raio for me and others. So we left. hey these are YOUR policies at work. you should be glad this is happening. the rich in the US control more of our economy than they ever have and we have people like YOU to thank for it! Those liberal fleaggers invested in their style of "In Debt We Trust!" got burned. Maybe you need to pick up some conservative 30's style investment books and none of this Obama/Bernanke-feel good crap being psuhed. liberals dont run the US. it's 30 years of reagan supply side economics that got us here look at your handywork. happy? the american dream is dead. that's a fact. social mobility is better in SWEDEN than it is in america While no dead yet, it is crippled and is dying. Too much freaking debt, dysfunction over priced debt laden governance. It is now harder, but you need to get your crap together now. No free house. i notice you ignored the fact sweden has a lower GINI coefficient and HIGHER social mobility than the US does. no doubt you cant understand it because you think any place the rich control as much of the economy as they do here, it's GOTTA be paradise the reason the right LOVES this myth of the american dream is it prevents them from having to address the fact the US is a plutocracy Probably is, and fleabaggers voted for it in Obama. ROFLMAO!! guess he thinks obama's been president since 1980! so you have, in a sentence, defined how the right is destroying this country Liberalism destroyed it. I do not know of any truly conservative-libertarian type suffering. Not a one. Liberals and fleabaggers overloaded with the worship of DEBT, well, different story. gee. how did it do this? he doesnt say we've had 30 years of supply side economics. massive tax cuts for the rich. destruction of unions to him, that's liberalism!! IOW he doesnt know a damn thing about the US except what he hears on talk radio. evidence? he's never pointed out a single piece of evidence in his favor. he spouts cliches. and that's what the right does Money is attracted to those that know how to manage it. HAHAHAHAH guess that leaves out WALL STREET!!! HAHAHAHAAHAHAH |
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On Sun, 15 May 2011 22:58:19 -0400, I_am_Tosk
wrote: In article , says... On Sun, 15 May 2011 15:59:48 -0600, Canuck57 wrote: wall street doesnt count Biggest cause of US downfall is fleabagger DEBT. yep the right ran up the credit card and didnt figure out how to pay for it. meaningless. what 'ponzi schemes'? you talking about the CDS's engineered by the right wing after deregulation of our economy? gee. and your recipe it to put those guys back in power. What Ponzi schemes? How about the dot com bubble, and the Global Warming scams??? Both fleabagger schemes... dot come bubble paled in comparison with wall street's latest attack on the US. and global warming..dont even go there. so go ahead tell us how wonderful wall street's been for the US. |
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![]() Don't worry, we know you have fleabaggers disease. A disease that affects the rational capabilities of the infected. if that were the case i'd be right wing. conservatives outnumber liberals in the US by 2:1 and that's why we're collapsing. too many right wingers Are you kidding me, you know what Wall St. is because you were on a boat off the shore of NYC? I mean, if you want to tell us all how great you are for doing your job, just come out and say it. You don't have to put a bananas in with a trailer full of Ping Pong balls... HAHAHAH you moving the goalposts again? your rhetorical question was whether i'd been to wall street as a matter of fact, i was helping to guard it after 9/11. and now back to our regular program. |
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On 15/05/2011 4:12 PM, wf3h wrote:
On Sun, 15 May 2011 15:59:48 -0600, wrote: On 15/05/2011 6:24 AM, wf3h wrote: On Sun, 15 May 2011 07:56:59 -0400, wrote: now the right's so desperate they're denying wall street exists! I've walked on wall street. It's not what yiou think it is. america can see what you've done. i hope you're proud of the wasteland you've made of this country some people try to build america wall street doesnt count Biggest cause of US downfall is fleabagger DEBT. yep the right ran up the credit card and didnt figure out how to pay for it. To fix will be fleabagger fear of: - balance the budget without more taxes. - borrow real money and cancel fraud/ponzi moneys. - shake the parsites off of the taxpayers hind tits. - make bailouts a federal corruption offense, rico like act on corruption. meaningless. what 'ponzi schemes'? you talking about the CDS's engineered by the right wing after deregulation of our economy? gee. and your recipe it to put those guys back in power. Here is a good one. Government needs $600B as some T-bills are coming due and the holders want their money. This would be the equivelent of 1/2 the income taxes collectd in a year but due all at once, just one months of t-bill renewals. Now sich the government cannot borrow, as no one in their right mond lends to US feds right now much less any other defunct debtor in the US the US Fed gets involved. Now instead of letting its biggest creditor default, or go to the markets and pay a fair rate of interest, the US Fed creates $600 billion of new no-value money that is dilutive to the currency, and also adds about 8% inflation for this one transaction. Hell, China does not lend to DC any more, neither do Americans. Now as an investor, be you a millionaire or billionaire you say wait, why should I invest or loan money out at below inflation and be taxed for insult, and loose value each year? Of course these see it. So they move thier investment capital to China, Brazil, India, gold, silver or where ever to preserve wealth during the pending currency collapse. I say currency collapse, as like the Mexican peso 2 decades ago, it was revalued, depreciated and revalued sever times. It is going to happen in the US shortly. Rich know this. Prety bad today, the Mexico peso is appreciating to the USD. Yep, the Bernanke currency fraud, just waiting for the collapse of the USD because Obama hasn't got the balls, neither does congress, to cut government to fit what people can afford. Little people get crushed in this, for many it will get down to food or mortgage. Rich, we buy oil and gold. -- Take a look at ANY country, more debt is more problems. So why do we allow our governments more debt? Selfishness, greed, denial, ignorance? |
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