On Jun 15, 7:15*pm, wrote:
On Wed, 15 Jun 2011 16:48:03 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:









On 14/06/2011 5:20 PM, wf3h wrote:
On Tue, 14 Jun 2011 08:24:05 -0400, *wrote:

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says...

On Tue, 14 Jun 2011 01:02:05 -0400, wrote:

yep. typical LIBERAL KEYNESIAN economcis

-borrow and spend in bad times
-pay back in good

thanks. i already knew that

That is national suicide and we are seeing it occur right in front of
our eyes.

We have borrowed and spent our self to near insolvency.

actually what we did is transfer a massive amount of wealth to the
already rich

and yes, borrow and spend does work. in fact it's how the 29
depression ended.

what wrecked us is wall street taking money and turning into a non
productive liquidity trap

I have money to invest. *Tell me how I should invest it?

I need a laugh.

. Someone might be dumber
than you and hire you.

Are you offering to accept his application, D'Plume?

"Canuck57" wrote in message ...

On 14/06/2011 5:20 PM, wf3h wrote:
On Tue, 14 Jun 2011 08:24:05 -0400, wrote:

In ,
says...

On Tue, 14 Jun 2011 01:02:05 -0400, wrote:



yep. typical LIBERAL KEYNESIAN economcis

-borrow and spend in bad times
-pay back in good

thanks. i already knew that

That is national suicide and we are seeing it occur right in front of
our eyes.

We have borrowed and spent our self to near insolvency.

actually what we did is transfer a massive amount of wealth to the
already rich

and yes, borrow and spend does work. in fact it's how the 29
depression ended.

what wrecked us is wall street taking money and turning into a non
productive liquidity trap

I have money to invest. Tell me how I should invest it?

I need a laugh.
--
Government isn't the solution to the bad economy, it is the problem.


Easy. Just invest in what the Pelosi family invests in. Their net worth is
up 62% in the last year.

On Wed, 15 Jun 2011 17:54:58 -0700, "Califbill"
wrote:

"Canuck57" wrote in message ...

On 14/06/2011 5:20 PM, wf3h wrote:
On Tue, 14 Jun 2011 08:24:05 -0400, wrote:

In ,
says...

On Tue, 14 Jun 2011 01:02:05 -0400, wrote:



yep. typical LIBERAL KEYNESIAN economcis

-borrow and spend in bad times
-pay back in good

thanks. i already knew that

That is national suicide and we are seeing it occur right in front of
our eyes.

We have borrowed and spent our self to near insolvency.

actually what we did is transfer a massive amount of wealth to the
already rich

and yes, borrow and spend does work. in fact it's how the 29
depression ended.

what wrecked us is wall street taking money and turning into a non
productive liquidity trap

I have money to invest. Tell me how I should invest it?

I need a laugh.

Therefore, Pelosi is evil?

In article ,
says...

On Wed, 15 Jun 2011 08:00:24 -0400, BAR wrote:

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says...

On Tue, 14 Jun 2011 08:27:36 -0400, BAR wrote:

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On Tue, 14 Jun 2011 01:05:46 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 13 Jun 2011 20:04:44 -0400, wf3h wrote:

On Mon, 13 Jun 2011 19:33:44 -0400, wrote:


That would encourage more long term investment.
I think I would but an extra tax on any financial instrument that was
kept less than a month to make flash trading less attractive.

let's get one thing straight

we dont need more INVESTMENT

we need more CONSUMPTION.

although investment is a form of consumption, ONLY MIDDLE CLASS
CONSUMPTION can pull us out of the depression

and wall street is NOT gonna let that happen

You can't get consumption without jobs and the only way we get that is
by expansion. It is clear the stimulus money just went into rich
people's pockets and not much actually got invested in expanded
industry. (thanks for a "no stimulus" stimulus bill)

There are plenty of stim projects underway, even if you don't believe
it or think they're working. They are working. We need more of them.

Name 10 of them.

Look them up yourself.

http://stimuluswatch.org/2.0/

Pick 10 that were not already in the planning stages before 2008.


Huh? What difference does that make? Never heard of "shovel ready"
projects? Now they have funding, and they're creating jobs. That's the
point moron.

Even Obama admitted the "shovel ready" was a big lie... He gave the
finger to the country and admitted he just paid a bunch of voting blocks
off... None of it created jobs, none of it created anything but fat
happy donors...

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In article , payer33859
@mypacks.net says...

On 6/15/11 2:57 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 15 Jun 2011 07:51:53 -0400, wrote:

In ,
says...

On Tue, 14 Jun 2011 20:21:09 -0400, wrote:

In ,
says...

On Tue, 14 Jun 2011 08:24:05 -0400, wrote:

In ,
says...

On Tue, 14 Jun 2011 01:02:05 -0400, wrote:


spend out of it. In 1933 they realized after the 1932 crash that
fleabagger debt spend does not work. Took 6 years of restraint to cover
the debts and recovery was slow.

really?

uh...why did the depression end in 39?

did something happen in 39? uh yeah...the US started to spend for ww2

canuck's moronic view of economics is exceeded only by his ignorance
of history

It was something called lend lease that got the factories moving again.

That was when the rest of the world was borrowing from us.

Bob, do you see the difference?


yep. typical LIBERAL KEYNESIAN economcis

-borrow and spend in bad times
-pay back in good

thanks. i already knew that

That is national suicide and we are seeing it occur right in front of
our eyes.

We have borrowed and spent our self to near insolvency.


This is a long term problem, not a short term problem. Get real.

The spending has been going on for about 100 years. It needs to stop.


Tomorrow... and screw the middle class who are going to get hurt. No
need to actually fix the problems, just screw over people. Typical
right-wing greedy asshole.

The progressive movement with its ideals that people need to be taken
care of has gotten us into this mess. People need to be told that they
are responsible for themselves and that they will no longer be given
government assistance.

The progressive movement has little to do with "people need to be
taken care of." That's the right-wing talking point on the subject.

As typical... screw the poor and the middle class. The only people who
really count are the billionaires. Well, screw you and the right-wing
agenda.

BAR had it with education after high school, and took the alternative
intellectual route with the marines.

At least he did something.. You never did anything after High School,
that's why you lied about a Yale degree, and secret missions for
Presidents, with secret Generals in Vietnam.. snerk

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In article ,
says...

On Wed, 15 Jun 2011 16:48:03 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 14/06/2011 5:20 PM, wf3h wrote:
On Tue, 14 Jun 2011 08:24:05 -0400, wrote:

In ,
says...

On Tue, 14 Jun 2011 01:02:05 -0400, wrote:



yep. typical LIBERAL KEYNESIAN economcis

-borrow and spend in bad times
-pay back in good

thanks. i already knew that

That is national suicide and we are seeing it occur right in front of
our eyes.

We have borrowed and spent our self to near insolvency.

actually what we did is transfer a massive amount of wealth to the
already rich

and yes, borrow and spend does work. in fact it's how the 29
depression ended.

what wrecked us is wall street taking money and turning into a non
productive liquidity trap

I have money to invest. Tell me how I should invest it?

I need a laugh.

Take all your money and buy tomorrow's newspaper. If that won't cover
it, ask a friend (sorry, I didn't mean to bum you out, since I know
you don't have any), or perhaps find some loose change on the
sidewalk. Then, look for a job. Who knows. Someone might be dumber
than you and hire you.

How the **** do you know that? Oh yeah, you just made it up...

--
Team Rowdy Mouse, Banned from the Mall for life!

On Wed, 15 Jun 2011 07:46:12 -0400, BAR wrote:

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On Tue, 14 Jun 2011 16:16:47 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

Bozo... we're talking about gov't spending. Gov't spent. The economy
recovered. I know it's a difficult concept for someone of your low
intellect...

With all of the current government spending around the US at the
federal, state and local level why is the unemployment rate at 9%?


because consumer debt is high, wages are low and consumption isnt
enough to drive teh economy

in addition, local govts have cut about the same amount as the feds
have spent\

On Wed, 15 Jun 2011 07:51:53 -0400, BAR wrote:


The progressive movement with its ideals that people need to be taken
care of has gotten us into this mess.
ono
really? how? specifics?

what got us into this mess was 30 years of deregulation of the banks
and the raping of the economy by wall street.

the right ignores what the rich did to the country in favor of the
mythical welfare queen

there are welfare queens alright. they're known as hedge fund managers


People need to be told that they
are responsible for themselves and that they will no longer be given
government assistance.

more right wing bull****. the only people that got taken care of were
on wall street. the middle class paid for that AND got nothing

On Wed, 15 Jun 2011 10:45:39 -0700, "Califbill"
wrote:

"wf3h" wrote in message ...

On Tue, 14 Jun 2011 21:56:34 -0700, "Califbill"
wrote:

meaningless. and he IS a kluxer


He seems to have a better understanding of Econ
101 than 95% of the rest of the politicians and most of the public also.
He
will not be President, but would make one hell of an advisor. Probably the
best candidate and will also not get the nod, is Newt G. He was the one
who
balanced Clinton's budgets. The Contract with America was one of the best
things that happened to WJC.

the contract ON america you mean. the continued war of the right
against the ameircan middle class


Reply:
No the war on the middle class is the insane overspending by almost all the
Congress's for 50 years. And the inflation that it has caused. 1968, a
middle class family had an income of about $14k. Could buy a house and car
and decent vacation. 43 years later, that is 1/2 of poverty level. The
Contract with America was to allow those middle class to have the value of
the money they earned. Not having to keep sending more to Washington, D,C.
to pay for bloated government. One of the only places in the USA that has
not seen a housing bust is the DC area. Lots of money there.

funny the rich seem to be doing OK. they had a 500% pay increase in
the last 30 years.

so why are they doing fine and the rest of us are headed for poverty?

answer: that's what the right wing wants for the US

On Wed, 15 Jun 2011 07:53:43 -0400, BAR wrote:

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On Tue, 14 Jun 2011 20:24:20 -0400, BAR wrote:

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On Tue, 14 Jun 2011 14:52:17 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:


You are the self appointed economic genius, tell us.


gee. the answer is obvious

they dont rule us

You only know how to pick up rocks and throw them.

someone has to start the ball rolling. you sheep wont