On 20-Jun-2011, North Star wrote:

makes, if you want to compete on manufacturing. *What we did 40 years
ago.
Not 10-20x+ the cost of employment. *Go take an economic course at the
local
junior college. *Maybe then you will understand the **** pile the USA is
in.

Never mind the worker... what about the CEO's and other senior
officers of most firms.
What percentage over a 3rd world manager do they make?

What a CEO or toilet cleaner makes is based on supply and demand. That's
why "Americans" are taking it in the ass - there's very little demand for
their "skills."

On 19-Jun-2011, Harryk wrote:

you guys believe in supply side mythology, the greatest fraud in
contemporary econmics

good luck

Supply side is real.


Crikey...you believe that crap, eh?

Welfare is KING!

On 19-Jun-2011, wf3h wrote:

he starts off with a meaningless bull**** statement

You just PROVED my point

\
says the illiterate moron




because we gutted the unions. and when we did that, american mgmt
found it could make gobs of money AND send jobs overseas

That's a nonsensical statement,

you see, unlike you, i, being a liberal, accept reality\

You have no reality if you stare at the idiot box and get caught up on
the
retard TV shows bellowing "liberal" and "conservative."

not familiar with US politics are you?

US politics is based on lies and fraud - you apparently enjoy both - think
for a change, or did a uniion purge you of that ability?


That violent rant is
to get you to watch so they can sell commercials. Wake up and understand
how
an industry works, or even a lemonaide stand. Industries had to close or
flee, the unions disapeared when the companies left. Other than
extortion,
what was theie purpose anyway? Job security for the incompetent? Yeah,
gotta give you that.......


nope. the right wing made it impossible to unionize in this country

Supply and demad - if you want production (design, development, engineering,
manufacturing, tooling, marketing, sales, service), stop sending your
****ant wages overseas.


do you know what the penalty is for firing someone for unionizing
activities in this country?

bet you dont.

"Unionizing activities" (whatever that is) is not productive; production is,
and your case, in Japan, Korea and China. Go bellyache at them.



countries with strong unions have strong manufacturing. you right
wingers have your little mythologies which say the more you enslave
the middle class, the better for the rich.

Middle class isn't Walmart and burger joints, your future is more like
Peru
and The Phillipines - they don't produce anything either.

yep. and we'll still have right wingers saying we need more tax cuts
for the rich.

Nope, not for anyone, and the "poor" need to pay up. Tax relief will merely
allow the fools to send more money to Asia.


unlike, i accept capitalism. protectionism is a failure BUT the right
wing negotiated free trade WITHOUT labor protection

Read previous answer - there is no "free" trade - what remains of the US
is
a dumping groud for 1st world countries, and you make it worse every day
-
that's why you beg for handouts.

meaningless




courtesy of george bush. you right wingers dont even know history.

One idiot politician didn't force or even encourage you to send your
money
overseas then bitch about jobs - you did that on your own - stop the
childish "logic."

HAHAHAHA guess you are unaware of the history of right wing politics
in this country.


If you are referring to a definition that you hear on the idiot box, it
doesn't exist - you are being led around by a ring in your nose.



By the way, like most defective people, you bash evil corporations (that
used to overpay you) - you are capable of understanding Honda, Toyota,
Walmart, Home Dept and McDonald's (your carrer choices) are evil
corporations also, right?

HAHAHA the middle class in the US hasnt had a raise in 30 years!

I've been explianig that for 30 YEARS! If you don't produce, you're not
needed - why a raise???? Wahes in your country are actually half of what
they were in the 70's - you made it happen, so sleep in your mess. It won't
change until you make the wages of the slaves in China and India, and that
will take a generation or 3.

On 19-Jun-2011, wf3h wrote:

The liberal dream, debt-spend out of debt will never come true.

But the debt spend might ruin your kids, and their kids futurers for you
government statism today. Government needs to shrink to fit the
economy. Can't just keep charging it.

the RIGHT gave us the deficits by

war

tax cuts on the rich

but obama's black...so he HAS to be the problem, right?

Obama isn't the problem; he's the symptom - voters (gubment edjumucated) are
the problem. No politicians put themselves in office - you did.
Personally, I think it's fitting that Obama is the last president while the
US is sovereign. The final demise is soooooooo apparent. You better quit
squealing for handouts now and practice getting used to eating roots.
Hahahahahaha - it's pretty funny from the other side of the pond, but the
squealing stupidity is like listen to Palin screech.

On Mon, 20 Jun 2011 07:29:33 -0400, Jay wrote:

Another moron who thinks his juvenile insults are cute. WAFA

He who talks with parrot(s), repeats himself.

On Mon, 20 Jun 2011 10:46:14 -0400, Wayne B
wrote:

On Mon, 20 Jun 2011 07:29:33 -0400, Jay wrote:

Another moron who thinks his juvenile insults are cute. WAFA

He who talks with parrot(s), repeats himself.

Oh stop peeing on yourself. You'll run out of clothes.

On Mon, 20 Jun 2011 13:56:04 GMT, "Colonel Kurtz"
wrote:


On 19-Jun-2011, Canuck57 wrote:

Time to look outside the idiot box and realize the masses in your
country
are the only solution, and you're too lazy to act.

Fleabaggers are too lazy, and our politicians pander to it to much.
Doubtful it will fix itself until the government has to face an angry
mob of debt-tax-slaves and unemployed that have looked at the reality of
the situation. Might take decades.

The gubment needs to be confronted by thousansds of ****ed off peasants with
flaming torches and street sweepers. That won't happen until the handouts
stop. It might take generations for the masses to pull away from Dancing for
Dollars and do do something constructive.

Yeah, for you and yours violence is always the answer. Go suck rocks.
We don't need people like you.

On Mon, 20 Jun 2011 13:59:40 GMT, "Colonel Kurtz"
wrote:


On 19-Jun-2011, wf3h wrote:

So does France - both countries have the sense not to import everything
and
watch industry fold.

HAHAHA...germany's MANUFACTURED exports account for 30% of GDP.

DUH!

if we had stronger unions we'd have strong manufacturing.

If you're interested in manufacturing, move to Japan, Korea or China - the
US is dead and is starting to really smell.

You contribute exactly zero to the US. You don't even live here do
you. You've been smelling for years, but you don't notice. Time to do
laundry.

On Mon, 20 Jun 2011 11:10:41 -0700, wrote:

On Mon, 20 Jun 2011 10:46:14 -0400, Wayne B
wrote:

On Mon, 20 Jun 2011 07:29:33 -0400, Jay wrote:

Another moron who thinks his juvenile insults are cute. WAFA

He who talks with parrot(s), repeats himself.

Oh stop peeing on yourself. You'll run out of clothes.

May your cage go uncleaned for a while, and your crackers get soggy.

On Mon, 20 Jun 2011 17:33:49 -0400, Wayne B
wrote:

On Mon, 20 Jun 2011 11:10:41 -0700, wrote:

On Mon, 20 Jun 2011 10:46:14 -0400, Wayne B
wrote:

On Mon, 20 Jun 2011 07:29:33 -0400, Jay wrote:

Another moron who thinks his juvenile insults are cute. WAFA

He who talks with parrot(s), repeats himself.

Oh stop peeing on yourself. You'll run out of clothes.

May your cage go uncleaned for a while, and your crackers get soggy.

Yeah, you're just another right-wing nothing of a person. I know
you're afraid of me, along with Froggers. Why don't you claim that
propane is going to travel up current and up into the boat again. It
makes you look really dumb and it's good for a laugh.