"John H" wrote in message
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On Fri, 17 Jun 2011 20:08:23 -0700, "Califbill"
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"Wayne B" wrote in message
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On Fri, 17 Jun 2011 21:24:32 -0400, John H
wrote:

On Fri, 17 Jun 2011 20:44:40 -0400, L G
wrote:

John H wrote:
Some folks were interested in the mileage I got in the Silverado with
the Duramax diesel engine.
This past week I drove it to Winston-Salem, NC, and back, a distance of
about 650 miles. This time I
wasn't towing anything. The truck got 21.6 mpg for the whole trip. Not
bad. I was surprised. Shoot,
that's as good as I was getting in the 4Runner.


Not bad at all.

What ever happened to diesel costing less than regular unleaded? From
what I've read, there is less money spent to refine it so it must be a
political thing.

From what I've read it's due to demand...and higher taxes on diesel.

There has also been a great deal of political pressure on the refinery
operators to ensure that they are producing sufficient quantities of
home heating oil and gasoline. The new environmental regs requiring
low sulfur diesel have also had an impact.


Reply:
About 20 cents more tax on a gallon and cost to produce is probably equal.
Years ago, they distilled the crude and diesel was more of a byproduct.
Now
with catalytic cracking, they make more gasoline and other products as
required. My 2004 Duramax gets about 19.5 mpg driving 70, but the newer
years have one more gear in the tranny so get a mile or two.

I had the cruise control at 65 the whole way, and I've got the Allison 6
speed.


Reply:
Have a hard time driving 65. Try to stay about a mile slower than the
fastest cars. Towing is 55 in California, but 65 on the 70 mph interstates
seems to be allowed. Most of the semi's do about 62-63. When I tow to
Canada, is nice to get in the higher tow speed states. Going to the
grandkids in SoCal, I leave the cruise control at about 80. 19.5 going
south, 18.5 north. I get about 13.5 towing the boat with the popup slide in
camper and doing about 65. Boat and trailer are about 4300# Both aluminum.

On Jun 17, 6:18*pm, John H wrote:
On Fri, 17 Jun 2011 17:34:27 -0400, Wayne B wrote:
On Fri, 17 Jun 2011 17:29:28 -0400, John H
wrote:

The truck got 21.6 mpg for the whole trip. Not bad.

Not bad indeed, incredibly good for a heavy duty truck. *What is your
max towing weight, and is it a dualie?

No, mine's not a dually. It's max towing capacity is 13,000 lbs. Enough for me!

We're considering one of these now...

http://tinyurl.com/6h3g9qh

But, it'll be a year or two.

Hey that's quite a lay out. Very nice. Your Duro ought to dance with
that one as well.

On Jun 17, 7:08*pm, John H wrote:
On Fri, 17 Jun 2011 19:44:36 -0400, Wayne B wrote:
On Fri, 17 Jun 2011 19:18:13 -0400, John H
wrote:

On Fri, 17 Jun 2011 17:34:27 -0400, Wayne B wrote:

On Fri, 17 Jun 2011 17:29:28 -0400, John H
wrote:

The truck got 21.6 mpg for the whole trip. Not bad.

Not bad indeed, incredibly good for a heavy duty truck. *What is your
max towing weight, and is it a dualie?

No, mine's not a dually. It's max towing capacity is 13,000 lbs. Enough for me!

We're considering one of these now...

http://tinyurl.com/6h3g9qh

But, it'll be a year or two.

Nice!

That's a real "Land Yacht" as some people call their RVs. * :-)

If you really want it, I'd do it now before diesel hits $10/gal.

Well, if diesel hits $10 a gallon, we'll just have to save twice as long before going to Alaska. For
the past month or so, I've found diesel for less than regular at some stations. Now it's back up,
but it's still between regular and high test. It's running about 3.88/gal.. I'm doing a lot more
motorcycle and bike riding.

Today, local pump gas is $3.69

On Jun 17, 4:29*pm, John H wrote:
Some folks were interested in the mileage I got in the Silverado with the Duramax diesel engine.
This past week I drove it to Winston-Salem, NC, and back, a distance of about 650 miles. This time I
wasn't towing anything. The truck got 21.6 mpg for the whole trip. Not bad. I was surprised. Shoot,
that's as good as I was getting in the 4Runner.

My 90 mercury wagon will get aprox 23 ont he road, unless I'm pulling
my 18 ft boat, then that 302 squats to the tune of about 14 mpg, when
pulling the 23 ftr. I think I might get 10, and that's running at 50
mph out of overdrive and watching the temp guage.

John H wrote:
On Fri, 17 Jun 2011 20:44:40 -0400, L wrote:


John H wrote:

Some folks were interested in the mileage I got in the Silverado with the Duramax diesel engine.
This past week I drove it to Winston-Salem, NC, and back, a distance of about 650 miles. This time I
wasn't towing anything. The truck got 21.6 mpg for the whole trip. Not bad. I was surprised. Shoot,
that's as good as I was getting in the 4Runner.


Not bad at all.

What ever happened to diesel costing less than regular unleaded? From
what I've read, there is less money spent to refine it so it must be a
political thing.

From what I've read it's due to demand...and higher taxes on diesel.

How has the demand changed in 10 years? I would guess there is more
gasoline sold. The taxes are another matter. I'll look into that.

On Sat, 18 Jun 2011 21:40:00 -0400, L G wrote:

John H wrote:
On Fri, 17 Jun 2011 20:44:40 -0400, L wrote:


John H wrote:

Some folks were interested in the mileage I got in the Silverado with the Duramax diesel engine.
This past week I drove it to Winston-Salem, NC, and back, a distance of about 650 miles. This time I
wasn't towing anything. The truck got 21.6 mpg for the whole trip. Not bad. I was surprised. Shoot,
that's as good as I was getting in the 4Runner.


Not bad at all.

What ever happened to diesel costing less than regular unleaded? From
what I've read, there is less money spent to refine it so it must be a
political thing.

From what I've read it's due to demand...and higher taxes on diesel.

How has the demand changed in 10 years? I would guess there is more
gasoline sold. The taxes are another matter. I'll look into that.

Here is some good info on diesel prices.

http://www.dieselserviceandsupply.co...el_prices.aspx

Worldwide demand for diesel has gone way up.

On Sun, 19 Jun 2011 09:25:10 -0400, John H
wrote:

How has the demand changed in 10 years? I would guess there is more
gasoline sold. The taxes are another matter. I'll look into that.

Here is some good info on diesel prices.

http://www.dieselserviceandsupply.co...el_prices.aspx

Worldwide demand for diesel has gone way up.

===

Good information, thanks.

It is obviously biased away from popular folk wisdom however since
there was no category in the pie chart breakdown called "Greedy
Corporate Speculative Excess Profits". I don't see how they could
have missed an obvious item like that in an otherwise well researched
article. :-)

On Sun, 19 Jun 2011 12:40:48 -0400, Wayne B wrote:

On Sun, 19 Jun 2011 09:25:10 -0400, John H
wrote:

How has the demand changed in 10 years? I would guess there is more
gasoline sold. The taxes are another matter. I'll look into that.

Here is some good info on diesel prices.

http://www.dieselserviceandsupply.co...el_prices.aspx

Worldwide demand for diesel has gone way up.

===

Good information, thanks.

It is obviously biased away from popular folk wisdom however since
there was no category in the pie chart breakdown called "Greedy
Corporate Speculative Excess Profits". I don't see how they could
have missed an obvious item like that in an otherwise well researched
article. :-)

They need those 'excess profits' to afford golf. Only we rich can afford the game.

On Sun, 19 Jun 2011 12:26:15 -0500, Richard Casady wrote:

On Sun, 19 Jun 2011 12:40:48 -0400, Wayne B
wrote:

On Sun, 19 Jun 2011 09:25:10 -0400, John H
wrote:

How has the demand changed in 10 years? I would guess there is more
gasoline sold. The taxes are another matter. I'll look into that.

Here is some good info on diesel prices.

http://www.dieselserviceandsupply.co...el_prices.aspx

Worldwide demand for diesel has gone way up.

===

Good information, thanks.

It is obviously biased away from popular folk wisdom however since
there was no category in the pie chart breakdown called "Greedy
Corporate Speculative Excess Profits". I don't see how they could
have missed an obvious item like that in an otherwise well researched
article. :-)

Agent just ate my reply with a typo, and in 13 yeaars, I have never
figured out how. Our Lincoln Navigator has four cams and 32 valves and
only manages to get 14 at 70. The thing some real walnut trim,
steering wheel, little plates containing the window and door lock
switches. Nice looking. So, I sometimes call it:' The Sliverado.'

Casady

My Silverado gets 14 mpg - when I'm pulling the travel trailer. But, that's 40% better than my
4Runner got, so I'm not complaining.

On Jun 19, 11:40*am, Wayne B wrote:
On Sun, 19 Jun 2011 09:25:10 -0400, John H
wrote:

How has the demand changed in 10 years? *I would guess there is more
gasoline sold. *The taxes are another matter. *I'll look into that.

Here is some good info on diesel prices.

http://www.dieselserviceandsupply.co...el_prices.aspx

Worldwide demand for diesel has gone way up.

===

Good information, thanks.

It is obviously biased away from popular folk wisdom however since
there was no category in the pie chart breakdown called "Greedy
Corporate Speculative Excess Profits". *I don't see how they could
have missed an obvious item like that in an otherwise well researched
article. * *:-)

But Wayne. Somebody's got to turn on the lights...

http://www.google.com/search?q=dubai...=939&bih =552