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On Jul 7, 2:40*am, wrote:
On Wed, 6 Jul 2011 19:59:02 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: On Jul 5, 10:20*pm, Wayne B wrote: On Tue, 05 Jul 2011 22:42:29 -0400, LilAbner wrote: On 7/5/2011 6:40 PM, *e#c wrote: Marina Operators are starting to discontinue selling Gas. This, apparenetly due to more people fueling at gas Stations. Those with bigger Boats....you're on your own. Call the Gas Truck to make a " Special Delivery ". The news includes Diesel, as well. EPA one reason. Higher prices for fuel from Marina Operators another. Since it is not for road use, taxes should be less? They should have a price advantage. If they passed, that along, to Boaters, no one would buy it on the way to the marina. Another problem is fewer people are boating or at least as much because of the economy and higher marina fuel prices as well as elsewhere. EPA regulations are a big reason. * New tank regulations have greatly increased the cost and regulatory complexity for selling fuels of all types. * Small volume sellers frequently find it cheaper and easier to just get out of the business. Yep. Large gas station retailers can keep pace with the tank and saftey upgrades, but most (especially the small ones) Marina stores can't. *If EPA steps in and says you have to spend $70,000.00 to meet their update requirements or quit selling fuel, what are you gonna do? Especially if you don't sell that much gross in a year? This doesn't include the liability insurance of a tank leakage into the lake, harbor or river, and clean up fees etc. So, if you can't afford to keep the environment safe, then no problem, since profit is the most important thing. Well, maybe for you... That is your problem D'Plume. Either you cannot figure out Tim's comment, or you want to pick a fight. You want to pick a fight. |
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On 06/07/2011 8:59 PM, Tim wrote:
On Jul 5, 10:20 pm, Wayne wrote: On Tue, 05 Jul 2011 22:42:29 -0400, wrote: On 7/5/2011 6:40 PM, *e#c wrote: Marina Operators are starting to discontinue selling Gas. This, apparenetly due to more people fueling at gas Stations. Those with bigger Boats....you're on your own. Call the Gas Truck to make a " Special Delivery ". The news includes Diesel, as well. EPA one reason. Higher prices for fuel from Marina Operators another. Since it is not for road use, taxes should be less? They should have a price advantage. If they passed, that along, to Boaters, no one would buy it on the way to the marina. Another problem is fewer people are boating or at least as much because of the economy and higher marina fuel prices as well as elsewhere. EPA regulations are a big reason. New tank regulations have greatly increased the cost and regulatory complexity for selling fuels of all types. Small volume sellers frequently find it cheaper and easier to just get out of the business. Yep. Large gas station retailers can keep pace with the tank and saftey upgrades, but most (especially the small ones) Marina stores can't. If EPA steps in and says you have to spend $70,000.00 to meet their update requirements or quit selling fuel, what are you gonna do? Especially if you don't sell that much gross in a year? This doesn't include the liability insurance of a tank leakage into the lake, harbor or river, and clean up fees etc. Just means instead of parking boats in Miami or Boca Raton, go over to a Caribbean island and park it there. Obama's master plan, detax America by sending it offshore. Because if you tank holds 500 gallon, I don't see them carting 5 gallon jerry cans all day. -- Now the real war is on Obama-debt, to save America's future. And do it for your kids sake....and ignore the selfish fleabags... |
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On 7/7/11 3:42 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
Just means instead of parking boats in Miami or Boca Raton, go over to a Caribbean island and park it there. Obama's master plan, detax America by sending it offshore. Because if you tank holds 500 gallon, I don't see them carting 5 gallon jerry cans all day. The list of subjects about which you know nothing grows larger every day. I don't want to accuse you of being dumber than Tosk or Loogy, but, damn, you're definitely in the same League of FLEEGs.* *FLEEG...someone who is so dumb he might have a flat line EEG. -- Want to discuss recreational boating and fishing in a forum where personal insults are not allowed? http://groups.google.com/group/rec-boating-fishing |
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On Thu, 07 Jul 2011 13:42:31 -0600, Canuck57
wrote: On 06/07/2011 8:59 PM, Tim wrote: On Jul 5, 10:20 pm, Wayne wrote: On Tue, 05 Jul 2011 22:42:29 -0400, wrote: On 7/5/2011 6:40 PM, *e#c wrote: Marina Operators are starting to discontinue selling Gas. This, apparenetly due to more people fueling at gas Stations. Those with bigger Boats....you're on your own. Call the Gas Truck to make a " Special Delivery ". The news includes Diesel, as well. EPA one reason. Higher prices for fuel from Marina Operators another. Since it is not for road use, taxes should be less? They should have a price advantage. If they passed, that along, to Boaters, no one would buy it on the way to the marina. Another problem is fewer people are boating or at least as much because of the economy and higher marina fuel prices as well as elsewhere. EPA regulations are a big reason. New tank regulations have greatly increased the cost and regulatory complexity for selling fuels of all types. Small volume sellers frequently find it cheaper and easier to just get out of the business. Yep. Large gas station retailers can keep pace with the tank and saftey upgrades, but most (especially the small ones) Marina stores can't. If EPA steps in and says you have to spend $70,000.00 to meet their update requirements or quit selling fuel, what are you gonna do? Especially if you don't sell that much gross in a year? This doesn't include the liability insurance of a tank leakage into the lake, harbor or river, and clean up fees etc. Just means instead of parking boats in Miami or Boca Raton, go over to a Caribbean island and park it there. Obama's master plan, detax America by sending it offshore. Because if you tank holds 500 gallon, I don't see them carting 5 gallon jerry cans all day. Ah.. back to conspiracy theories about the evil black man I see. |
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On Jul 7, 2:42*pm, Canuck57 wrote:
On 06/07/2011 8:59 PM, Tim wrote: On Jul 5, 10:20 pm, Wayne *wrote: On Tue, 05 Jul 2011 22:42:29 -0400, *wrote: On 7/5/2011 6:40 PM, *e#c wrote: Marina Operators are starting to discontinue selling Gas. This, apparenetly due to more people fueling at gas Stations. Those with bigger Boats....you're on your own. Call the Gas Truck to make a " Special Delivery ". The news includes Diesel, as well. EPA one reason. Higher prices for fuel from Marina Operators another. Since it is not for road use, taxes should be less? They should have a price advantage. If they passed, that along, to Boaters, no one would buy it on the way to the marina. Another problem is fewer people are boating or at least as much because of the economy and higher marina fuel prices as well as elsewhere. EPA regulations are a big reason. * New tank regulations have greatly increased the cost and regulatory complexity for selling fuels of all types. * Small volume sellers frequently find it cheaper and easier to just get out of the business. Yep. Large gas station retailers can keep pace with the tank and saftey upgrades, but most (especially the small ones) Marina stores can't. *If EPA steps in and says you have to spend $70,000.00 to meet their update requirements or quit selling fuel, what are you gonna do? Especially if you don't sell that much gross in a year? This doesn't include the liability insurance of a tank leakage into the lake, harbor or river, and clean up fees etc. *Because if you tank holds 500 gallon, I don't see them carting 5 gallon jerry cans all day. -- Just depends on how much you want to pay them.... ?;^ ) |
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On Jul 5, 10:42*pm, LilAbner wrote:
On 7/5/2011 6:40 PM, *e#c wrote: Marina Operators are starting to discontinue selling Gas. This, apparenetly due to more people fueling at gas Stations. Those with bigger Boats....you're on your own. Call the Gas Truck to make a " Special Delivery ". The news includes Diesel, as well. EPA one reason. Higher prices for fuel from Marina Operators another. Since it is not for road use, taxes should be less? They should have a price advantage. If they passed, that along, to Boaters, no one would buy it on the way to the marina. Another problem is fewer people are boating or at least as much because of the economy and higher marina fuel prices as well as elsewhere. IF...they dropped the taxes, the Marina Operators would adjust to cover for them. No one is honest anymore. |
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On 7/6/2011 9:51 PM, *e#c wrote:
On Jul 5, 10:42 pm, wrote: On 7/5/2011 6:40 PM, *e#c wrote: Marina Operators are starting to discontinue selling Gas. This, apparenetly due to more people fueling at gas Stations. Those with bigger Boats....you're on your own. Call the Gas Truck to make a " Special Delivery ". The news includes Diesel, as well. EPA one reason. Higher prices for fuel from Marina Operators another. Since it is not for road use, taxes should be less? They should have a price advantage. If they passed, that along, to Boaters, no one would buy it on the way to the marina. Another problem is fewer people are boating or at least as much because of the economy and higher marina fuel prices as well as elsewhere. IF...they dropped the taxes, the Marina Operators would adjust to cover for them. No one is honest anymore. Remember when everyone would rather cut off their arm than violate their Christian ethics and faith? The very idea that you told did wrong it would tear at your conscience so bad you would shatter until you repented. I think Washington has a number of Folks who will repent, in their retirement or commit suicide as they watch what they sat in motion tear apart this Republic and our Children future. Perhaps enough or too much money will sate their conscience? Will they take it with them? Will they try to repent by helping the third world become an unsustainable, for them, western Country and condemn their Population to poverties and miseries they think they are helping them avoid. Perhaps the charity contributions will save their soul and sate their conscience? Perhaps this is why alcohol consumption is so high among them? |
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On Jul 5, 3:40*pm, "*e#c" wrote:
Marina Operators are starting to discontinue selling Gas. This, apparenetly due to more people fueling at gas Stations. Those with bigger Boats....you're on your own. Call the Gas Truck to make a " Special Delivery ". The news includes Diesel, as well. Hmmm...please state your sources...gas/diesel is available in San Diego Bay and Mission bay (CA) with no problem...well, except the cost (but that has always been the case)! |
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On Jul 6, 12:34*am, mike wrote:
On Jul 5, 3:40*pm, "*e#c" wrote: Marina Operators are starting to discontinue selling Gas. This, apparenetly due to more people fueling at gas Stations. Those with bigger Boats....you're on your own. Call the Gas Truck to make a " Special Delivery ". The news includes Diesel, as well. Hmmm...please state your sources...gas/diesel is available in San Diego Bay and Mission bay (CA) with no problem...well, except the cost (but that has always been the case)! Local News. Marina Operators are fed up with the lack of tax breaks. More and more people are filling up at Gas Stations (those like me, that trailer) instead of the Marina. I did not say they are "stopping completely". The Marina Operators have to sell their gas at a higher price to cover costs, and have a profit margin. IMO....they have a LOT of "profit margin ". |
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On 7/6/11 10:00 PM, *e#c wrote:
On Jul 6, 12:34 am, wrote: On Jul 5, 3:40 pm, wrote: Marina Operators are starting to discontinue selling Gas. This, apparenetly due to more people fueling at gas Stations. Those with bigger Boats....you're on your own. Call the Gas Truck to make a " Special Delivery ". The news includes Diesel, as well. Hmmm...please state your sources...gas/diesel is available in San Diego Bay and Mission bay (CA) with no problem...well, except the cost (but that has always been the case)! Local News. Marina Operators are fed up with the lack of tax breaks. More and more people are filling up at Gas Stations (those like me, that trailer) instead of the Marina. I did not say they are "stopping completely". The Marina Operators have to sell their gas at a higher price to cover costs, and have a profit margin. IMO....they have a LOT of "profit margin ". Oh, now I understand, you meant NO MORE GAS ... (sort of) -- Want to discuss recreational boating and fishing in a forum where personal insults are not allowed? http://groups.google.com/group/rec-boating-fishing |
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