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On 17/07/2011 2:03 PM, TopBassDog wrote:
On Jul 17, 12:45 pm, wrote: On Sun, 17 Jul 2011 11:36:24 -0600, wrote: On 16/07/2011 6:25 PM, Liburn wrote: On 7/16/2011 8:00 PM, Q JINN wrote: AARP https://action.aarp.org/site/Advocac...UserAction&id=... Tell Congress: No Unfair Cuts to Medicare and Social Security Right now, Congress is considering deals to pay the nation's bills that would include dramatic cuts to Medicare and put the health of millions of older Americans at risk. We can't allow Congress to balance the budget on the backs of America's seniors Send a message to your members of Congress there is no options for most Americans aside from Medicare. Obama Care as it has been labeled is a giant tax increase not better or more health care. It is fact a cut in health care. That is how i worked in Canada. Get the taxes and dumb down the service levels for government profit. And they can hold it over you like a hammer if your are a dependent. Most people are too greedy to see this. Cutting Medicare means most Americans, coming into the system later on will have a choice of selling what they have and depending on Medicaid or whatever catchall fail safe of Obama Care. The proposals are truly through Grand Ma under the train. I thought such language was just inflammatory barbs thrown at those seeking to cut Medicare until looking at it. Have no choice, pay government (low) efficiency rates or do it yourself. Trouble is then should a lazy fat sit on your ass never worked a day in their life get the same service as someone who has contributed for 40+ years? Really boils down to who gets screwed, shifting lower quality services to those that pay for benefits to those that don't pay anything, even dope dealers and habitual users not fit to work. Now if the government differentiates, oh that is a slipperly slope for sure. Two idiots agree! Call CNN. Which two? You and CNN? CNN sure is a fleabag of a media station. Definitely a liberal media propaganda machine. -- What government fears the most is that the people correctly learn that they need government less than the government needs them. Say no more debt, no more debt-slave taxes. Economic freedom maters too! |
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On Sun, 17 Jul 2011 18:01:23 -0400, Harryk
wrote: On 7/17/11 3:29 PM, I_am_Tosk wrote: In raweb.com, says... On 7/17/2011 12:38 PM, wrote: On Sun, 17 Jul 2011 09:42:35 -0400, wrote: On 7/16/2011 9:10 PM, wrote: On Sat, 16 Jul 2011 20:25:43 -0400, wrote: On 7/16/2011 8:00 PM, Q JINN wrote: AARP https://action.aarp.org/site/Advocac...Action&id=1293 Tell Congress: No Unfair Cuts to Medicare and Social Security Right now, Congress is considering deals to pay the nation's bills that would include dramatic cuts to Medicare and put the health of millions of older Americans at risk. We can't allow Congress to balance the budget on the backs of America's seniors Send a message to your members of Congress there is no options for most Americans aside from Medicare. Obama Care as it has been labeled is a giant tax increase not better or more health care. It is fact a cut in health care. Cutting Medicare means most Americans, coming into the system later on will have a choice of selling what they have and depending on Medicaid or whatever catchall fail safe of Obama Care. The proposals are truly through Grand Ma under the train. I thought such language was just inflammatory barbs thrown at those seeking to cut Medicare until looking at it. Huh? First, there's no such thing as "Obama Care." Second, the Affordable Healthcare Act actually has some really nice things in it. http://www.healthcare.gov/law/about/index.html It must be my imagination but my costs have gone up in the past year with higher premiums,, higher deductibles, higher co-pays, more drug exclusions. I can understand why Obama doesn't want his name associated with the bill, but it's too late. It will cost him in 2012. Good riddance to him, I say. So, it's all about you. You aren't willing to spend a single dime more to help anyone else. Did you even look at the website? I doubt it. Obama very much will run on pushing through the Affordable Healthcare Act. It will certainly "cost him" with some people. People like you who apparently can't see the forest for the trees. If the dip**** Plume could read, she'd see that the Obama plan has already cost us a substantial amount. Lots of folks have had to drop their paid health care to become wards of the state with regard to obtaining healthcare. I suppose that's OK with you. It's fine with the liberals if the middle class eats ****... Or as Obama says, "let them eat ****"... (if they didn't vote for me)... How's that college fund for your daughter coming along...oh, wait, you blew it on motorbike tires... Good grief... the right wing/big corp lobby has been shoveling the **** onto the heads of the poor and middle class for 30 years, but it's the Democrats who are evil, apparently. |
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On Sun, 17 Jul 2011 12:36:29 -0600, Canuck57
wrote: On 17/07/2011 10:38 AM, wrote: On Sun, 17 Jul 2011 09:42:35 -0400, wrote: On 7/16/2011 9:10 PM, wrote: On Sat, 16 Jul 2011 20:25:43 -0400, wrote: On 7/16/2011 8:00 PM, Q JINN wrote: AARP https://action.aarp.org/site/Advocac...Action&id=1293 Tell Congress: No Unfair Cuts to Medicare and Social Security Right now, Congress is considering deals to pay the nation's bills that would include dramatic cuts to Medicare and put the health of millions of older Americans at risk. We can't allow Congress to balance the budget on the backs of America's seniors Send a message to your members of Congress there is no options for most Americans aside from Medicare. Obama Care as it has been labeled is a giant tax increase not better or more health care. It is fact a cut in health care. Cutting Medicare means most Americans, coming into the system later on will have a choice of selling what they have and depending on Medicaid or whatever catchall fail safe of Obama Care. The proposals are truly through Grand Ma under the train. I thought such language was just inflammatory barbs thrown at those seeking to cut Medicare until looking at it. Huh? First, there's no such thing as "Obama Care." Second, the Affordable Healthcare Act actually has some really nice things in it. http://www.healthcare.gov/law/about/index.html It must be my imagination but my costs have gone up in the past year with higher premiums,, higher deductibles, higher co-pays, more drug exclusions. I can understand why Obama doesn't want his name associated with the bill, but it's too late. It will cost him in 2012. Good riddance to him, I say. So, it's all about you. You aren't willing to spend a single dime more to help anyone else. Did you even look at the website? I doubt it. Obama very much will run on pushing through the Affordable Healthcare Act. It will certainly "cost him" with some people. People like you who apparently can't see the forest for the trees. It must suck to be so dependent on social assistance, it has fried your brains. You're the one who spends his welfare checks on cheap beer. |
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On Sun, 17 Jul 2011 12:34:44 -0600, Canuck57
wrote: On 17/07/2011 7:42 AM, HenryK wrote: On 7/16/2011 9:10 PM, wrote: On Sat, 16 Jul 2011 20:25:43 -0400, wrote: On 7/16/2011 8:00 PM, Q JINN wrote: AARP https://action.aarp.org/site/Advocac...Action&id=1293 Tell Congress: No Unfair Cuts to Medicare and Social Security Right now, Congress is considering deals to pay the nation's bills that would include dramatic cuts to Medicare and put the health of millions of older Americans at risk. We can't allow Congress to balance the budget on the backs of America's seniors Send a message to your members of Congress there is no options for most Americans aside from Medicare. Obama Care as it has been labeled is a giant tax increase not better or more health care. It is fact a cut in health care. Cutting Medicare means most Americans, coming into the system later on will have a choice of selling what they have and depending on Medicaid or whatever catchall fail safe of Obama Care. The proposals are truly through Grand Ma under the train. I thought such language was just inflammatory barbs thrown at those seeking to cut Medicare until looking at it. Huh? First, there's no such thing as "Obama Care." Second, the Affordable Healthcare Act actually has some really nice things in it. http://www.healthcare.gov/law/about/index.html It must be my imagination but my costs have gone up in the past year with higher premiums,, higher deductibles, higher co-pays, more drug exclusions. I can understand why Obama doesn't want his name associated with the bill, but it's too late. It will cost him in 2012. Good riddance to him, I say. I kept telling people, just a greedy tax grab. Sell people the greed, and they will follow like sheep. And we keep telling you to try something else. The tinfoil hat is leaking. |
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On Sun, 17 Jul 2011 12:46:52 -0600, Canuck57
wrote: On 17/07/2011 11:44 AM, wrote: On Sun, 17 Jul 2011 11:31:03 -0600, wrote: On 16/07/2011 6:00 PM, Q JINN wrote: AARP https://action.aarp.org/site/Advocac...Action&id=1293 Tell Congress: No Unfair Cuts to Medicare and Social Security Right now, Congress is considering deals to pay the nation's bills that would include dramatic cuts to Medicare and put the health of millions of older Americans at risk. We can't allow Congress to balance the budget on the backs of America's seniors Send a message to your members of Congress I do have a problem cutting social security. It soud be the last one chopped. While people had the misguided idea government would manage it well, it is an obligation that was paid for. Cut welfare first, as welfare didn't pay squat into it. Plus the payroll tax is there for social security. Welfare is already bare-bones. It's the final safety net for a society. Clinton scaled it back quite dramatically, but you don't care about facts. You just want to hurt the poor. But the say fact is that decades of fiscal mismanagement of SS has left it crippled. Government borrows and wastes the moneys, pays well below inflation diluting the value of it every year. Like a parasite sucking slowly and surely. There's little fiscal mismanagement in SS. As usual, you're devoid of actual facts. Medicare and medicaid, why not merge the two and lower the service levels, make it more efficient and less costly? Sorry, not everyone can go out costing $3 million for heart, lung, kidneys...there has to be rationed limits. You moron. Medicaid is a STATE run program. Medicare is FEDERAL. GET A CLUE! The big hack should be military, general administration and over all efficiencies. Michelle for example, 50+ staff? You're kidding right? No argument about the military, but the right-wing won't do that. And, you're a racist little pig. A good law to slide into government might be no raises for any civil servant until the budget is 100% balanced for one budget cycle. A little motivation to get the lead out. That's a noise-level "solution." If unions, governemnt or people sanely cared about pensions, pensions would be in your name, in your account and in your control, and if some central authority want big pools of money, they would have to borrow it from you at defined terms acceptable to you. No more skimming and bamboozling. Social security, employee and employers part, company pension, all go into the IRA/401K. Current pension plans are total bullship, except for government elite with the gold plated indexed plans. Sort of an eglitarian aristoracy to be government these days. They should get and use the same benefits as they provide. But big fat government is about milking and managing the herd for the egalitarianism in our societies. Taxation and government has turned out to be modern day slavery. As usual, you're totally ignorant. Ya well why have 8 different departments doing the same damn thing as Medicare and Medicaid? Government has to stop treating inefficiency as a goal. So, forget states rights then? You're really a dummy. You're the racist, Polly want a cracker? Or does Polly want a cracker to pay for it? I like the idea of tying civil servant pay check to performance goals in a non-subjective way. Lazy idealist fantastic dreamers in government need a stark wakeup call. Huh? Which civil servants? By the way, I once worked for US government sponsored organization once. What a CF, the idiots found the most inefficient ways to do the most simplistic of things in the most complex and stupidest ways possible. You're a known liar and a fool. Nobody would hire you for any gov't position. Every department, every job needs a review in government that asks the questions: 1) How does this benefit all Americans? (cut the racism hidden in special programs, it should not mater if you are bown, white, black, yellow, red or purple, it is "We the People...". 2) Is it cost effective and lean? 3) Is it really needed? Or just subsiding dysfunctional behavior? Yet, the Republicans typically block reform. They just want to kill everything. And, whatever "fat" that's left wouldn't amount to much money in the scheme of things. But, that doesn't matter to a racist little pig like you. |
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On Sun, 17 Jul 2011 15:20:42 -0600, Canuck57
wrote: On 17/07/2011 2:03 PM, TopBassDog wrote: On Jul 17, 12:45 pm, wrote: On Sun, 17 Jul 2011 11:36:24 -0600, wrote: On 16/07/2011 6:25 PM, Liburn wrote: On 7/16/2011 8:00 PM, Q JINN wrote: AARP https://action.aarp.org/site/Advocac...UserAction&id=... Tell Congress: No Unfair Cuts to Medicare and Social Security Right now, Congress is considering deals to pay the nation's bills that would include dramatic cuts to Medicare and put the health of millions of older Americans at risk. We can't allow Congress to balance the budget on the backs of America's seniors Send a message to your members of Congress there is no options for most Americans aside from Medicare. Obama Care as it has been labeled is a giant tax increase not better or more health care. It is fact a cut in health care. That is how i worked in Canada. Get the taxes and dumb down the service levels for government profit. And they can hold it over you like a hammer if your are a dependent. Most people are too greedy to see this. Cutting Medicare means most Americans, coming into the system later on will have a choice of selling what they have and depending on Medicaid or whatever catchall fail safe of Obama Care. The proposals are truly through Grand Ma under the train. I thought such language was just inflammatory barbs thrown at those seeking to cut Medicare until looking at it. Have no choice, pay government (low) efficiency rates or do it yourself. Trouble is then should a lazy fat sit on your ass never worked a day in their life get the same service as someone who has contributed for 40+ years? Really boils down to who gets screwed, shifting lower quality services to those that pay for benefits to those that don't pay anything, even dope dealers and habitual users not fit to work. Now if the government differentiates, oh that is a slipperly slope for sure. Two idiots agree! Call CNN. Which two? You and CNN? CNN sure is a fleabag of a media station. Definitely a liberal media propaganda machine. You and the other moron. Yeah, Knuckles watches Fox. He's got the hots for Greta. |
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On 17/07/2011 6:06 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 17 Jul 2011 12:46:52 -0600, wrote: On 17/07/2011 11:44 AM, wrote: On Sun, 17 Jul 2011 11:31:03 -0600, wrote: On 16/07/2011 6:00 PM, Q JINN wrote: AARP https://action.aarp.org/site/Advocac...Action&id=1293 Tell Congress: No Unfair Cuts to Medicare and Social Security Right now, Congress is considering deals to pay the nation's bills that would include dramatic cuts to Medicare and put the health of millions of older Americans at risk. We can't allow Congress to balance the budget on the backs of America's seniors Send a message to your members of Congress I do have a problem cutting social security. It soud be the last one chopped. While people had the misguided idea government would manage it well, it is an obligation that was paid for. Cut welfare first, as welfare didn't pay squat into it. Plus the payroll tax is there for social security. Welfare is already bare-bones. It's the final safety net for a society. Clinton scaled it back quite dramatically, but you don't care about facts. You just want to hurt the poor. But the say fact is that decades of fiscal mismanagement of SS has left it crippled. Government borrows and wastes the moneys, pays well below inflation diluting the value of it every year. Like a parasite sucking slowly and surely. There's little fiscal mismanagement in SS. As usual, you're devoid of actual facts. Medicare and medicaid, why not merge the two and lower the service levels, make it more efficient and less costly? Sorry, not everyone can go out costing $3 million for heart, lung, kidneys...there has to be rationed limits. You moron. Medicaid is a STATE run program. Medicare is FEDERAL. GET A CLUE! The big hack should be military, general administration and over all efficiencies. Michelle for example, 50+ staff? You're kidding right? No argument about the military, but the right-wing won't do that. And, you're a racist little pig. A good law to slide into government might be no raises for any civil servant until the budget is 100% balanced for one budget cycle. A little motivation to get the lead out. That's a noise-level "solution." If unions, governemnt or people sanely cared about pensions, pensions would be in your name, in your account and in your control, and if some central authority want big pools of money, they would have to borrow it from you at defined terms acceptable to you. No more skimming and bamboozling. Social security, employee and employers part, company pension, all go into the IRA/401K. Current pension plans are total bullship, except for government elite with the gold plated indexed plans. Sort of an eglitarian aristoracy to be government these days. They should get and use the same benefits as they provide. But big fat government is about milking and managing the herd for the egalitarianism in our societies. Taxation and government has turned out to be modern day slavery. As usual, you're totally ignorant. Ya well why have 8 different departments doing the same damn thing as Medicare and Medicaid? Government has to stop treating inefficiency as a goal. So, forget states rights then? You're really a dummy. You're the racist, Polly want a cracker? Or does Polly want a cracker to pay for it? I like the idea of tying civil servant pay check to performance goals in a non-subjective way. Lazy idealist fantastic dreamers in government need a stark wakeup call. Huh? Which civil servants? By the way, I once worked for US government sponsored organization once. What a CF, the idiots found the most inefficient ways to do the most simplistic of things in the most complex and stupidest ways possible. You're a known liar and a fool. Nobody would hire you for any gov't position. Every department, every job needs a review in government that asks the questions: 1) How does this benefit all Americans? (cut the racism hidden in special programs, it should not mater if you are bown, white, black, yellow, red or purple, it is "We the People...". 2) Is it cost effective and lean? 3) Is it really needed? Or just subsiding dysfunctional behavior? Yet, the Republicans typically block reform. They just want to kill everything. And, whatever "fat" that's left wouldn't amount to much money in the scheme of things. But, that doesn't matter to a racist little pig like you. Funny, your broke. As in debt welshing LOSER. I got a kick out of Timothy Geithner today going after the Euro default situation, man sure is a real hypocritical stupendous idiot. All a default means is that it is now pay as you go. Nothing more or less. -- What government fears the most is that the people correctly learn that they need government less than the government needs them. Say no more debt, no more debt-slave taxes. Economic freedom matters too! |
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On Mon, 18 Jul 2011 10:29:38 -0600, Canuck57
wrote: On 17/07/2011 6:06 PM, wrote: On Sun, 17 Jul 2011 12:46:52 -0600, wrote: On 17/07/2011 11:44 AM, wrote: On Sun, 17 Jul 2011 11:31:03 -0600, wrote: On 16/07/2011 6:00 PM, Q JINN wrote: AARP https://action.aarp.org/site/Advocac...Action&id=1293 Tell Congress: No Unfair Cuts to Medicare and Social Security Right now, Congress is considering deals to pay the nation's bills that would include dramatic cuts to Medicare and put the health of millions of older Americans at risk. We can't allow Congress to balance the budget on the backs of America's seniors Send a message to your members of Congress I do have a problem cutting social security. It soud be the last one chopped. While people had the misguided idea government would manage it well, it is an obligation that was paid for. Cut welfare first, as welfare didn't pay squat into it. Plus the payroll tax is there for social security. Welfare is already bare-bones. It's the final safety net for a society. Clinton scaled it back quite dramatically, but you don't care about facts. You just want to hurt the poor. But the say fact is that decades of fiscal mismanagement of SS has left it crippled. Government borrows and wastes the moneys, pays well below inflation diluting the value of it every year. Like a parasite sucking slowly and surely. There's little fiscal mismanagement in SS. As usual, you're devoid of actual facts. Medicare and medicaid, why not merge the two and lower the service levels, make it more efficient and less costly? Sorry, not everyone can go out costing $3 million for heart, lung, kidneys...there has to be rationed limits. You moron. Medicaid is a STATE run program. Medicare is FEDERAL. GET A CLUE! The big hack should be military, general administration and over all efficiencies. Michelle for example, 50+ staff? You're kidding right? No argument about the military, but the right-wing won't do that. And, you're a racist little pig. A good law to slide into government might be no raises for any civil servant until the budget is 100% balanced for one budget cycle. A little motivation to get the lead out. That's a noise-level "solution." If unions, governemnt or people sanely cared about pensions, pensions would be in your name, in your account and in your control, and if some central authority want big pools of money, they would have to borrow it from you at defined terms acceptable to you. No more skimming and bamboozling. Social security, employee and employers part, company pension, all go into the IRA/401K. Current pension plans are total bullship, except for government elite with the gold plated indexed plans. Sort of an eglitarian aristoracy to be government these days. They should get and use the same benefits as they provide. But big fat government is about milking and managing the herd for the egalitarianism in our societies. Taxation and government has turned out to be modern day slavery. As usual, you're totally ignorant. Ya well why have 8 different departments doing the same damn thing as Medicare and Medicaid? Government has to stop treating inefficiency as a goal. So, forget states rights then? You're really a dummy. You're the racist, Polly want a cracker? Or does Polly want a cracker to pay for it? I like the idea of tying civil servant pay check to performance goals in a non-subjective way. Lazy idealist fantastic dreamers in government need a stark wakeup call. Huh? Which civil servants? By the way, I once worked for US government sponsored organization once. What a CF, the idiots found the most inefficient ways to do the most simplistic of things in the most complex and stupidest ways possible. You're a known liar and a fool. Nobody would hire you for any gov't position. Every department, every job needs a review in government that asks the questions: 1) How does this benefit all Americans? (cut the racism hidden in special programs, it should not mater if you are bown, white, black, yellow, red or purple, it is "We the People...". 2) Is it cost effective and lean? 3) Is it really needed? Or just subsiding dysfunctional behavior? Yet, the Republicans typically block reform. They just want to kill everything. And, whatever "fat" that's left wouldn't amount to much money in the scheme of things. But, that doesn't matter to a racist little pig like you. Funny, your broke. As in debt welshing LOSER. I'm broke in your little pig of a mind. I got a kick out of Timothy Geithner today going after the Euro default situation, man sure is a real hypocritical stupendous idiot. All a default means is that it is now pay as you go. Nothing more or less. Well, I have to hand it to you. You know plenty about idiots. |
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On Jul 17, 7:07*pm, wrote:
On Sun, 17 Jul 2011 15:20:42 -0600, Canuck57 wrote: On 17/07/2011 2:03 PM, TopBassDog wrote: On Jul 17, 12:45 pm, wrote: On Sun, 17 Jul 2011 11:36:24 -0600, wrote: On 16/07/2011 6:25 PM, Liburn wrote: On 7/16/2011 8:00 PM, Q JINN wrote: AARP https://action.aarp.org/site/Advocac...UserAction&id=... Tell Congress: No Unfair Cuts to Medicare and Social Security Right now, Congress is considering deals to pay the nation's bills that would include dramatic cuts to Medicare and put the health of millions of older Americans at risk. We can't allow Congress to balance the budget on the backs of America's seniors Send a message to your members of Congress there is no options for most Americans aside from Medicare. Obama Care as it has been labeled is a giant tax increase not better or more health care. It is fact a cut in health care. That is how i worked in Canada. *Get the taxes and dumb down the service levels for government profit. *And they can hold it over you like a hammer if your are a dependent. *Most people are too greedy to see this. Cutting Medicare means most Americans, coming into the system later on will have a choice of selling what they have and depending on Medicaid or whatever catchall fail safe of Obama Care. The proposals are truly through Grand Ma under the train. I thought such language was just inflammatory barbs thrown at those seeking to cut Medicare until looking at it. Have no choice, pay government (low) efficiency rates or do it yourself. * Trouble is then should a lazy fat sit on your ass never worked a day in their life get the same service as someone who has contributed for 40+ years? Really boils down to who gets screwed, shifting lower quality services to those that pay for benefits to those that don't pay anything, even dope dealers and habitual users not fit to work. *Now if the government differentiates, oh that is a slipperly slope for sure. Two idiots agree! Call CNN. Which two? You and CNN? CNN sure is a fleabag of a media station. *Definitely a liberal media propaganda machine. You and the other moron. Yeah, Knuckles watches Fox. He's got the hots for Greta. Aren't you the jealous one, now. |
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