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On Mon, 25 Jul 2011 15:52:34 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:
"John H" wrote in message .. . ...at: http://www.whitehouse.gov/contact Sent this message: Dear Mr. President, I heard you say you will not guarantee SS checks if the debt ceiling isn't raised. Why is it the scare always has to do with SS, Medicare, & our Soldiers pay? Why not stop your pay, your staff, or Congress and the Senate to save more money for our country? Why use Seniors, Soldiers, & our Needy as examples? Take the money from those who take no risks and reap the benefits!! Instead of threatening to withhold Social Security, VA and disability payments of people who really need the money.... Lets hold the paychecks of all house & senate members, then see how fast they resolve the debt ceiling crisis !!!!! Might be a good idea if everyone did it. --------------------------------------------------------- The thing I have problems with regarding Obama's statements is that Social Security payments are not at risk from a funding point of view. The SS fund is solvent until 2037. Now, if he and his Treasury Department decide to withhold payments in order to use the funds for other bills, that's another thing and could result in some serious legal problems. He and his staff know that. Therefore, his statements regarding SS checks being withheld are nothing more than scare tactics to gain support for his side. I don't like that kind of dishonest politics. Eisboch It's very similar to what our county, and probably most others, does when taxpayers raise hell about higher taxes for schools... "Then we'll have to get rid of teachers and put more students in each classroom. The poor kids will suffer." Pure bull****. |
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On Mon, 25 Jul 2011 17:44:11 -0400, John H
wrote: On Mon, 25 Jul 2011 15:52:34 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: "John H" wrote in message . .. ...at: http://www.whitehouse.gov/contact Sent this message: Dear Mr. President, I heard you say you will not guarantee SS checks if the debt ceiling isn't raised. Why is it the scare always has to do with SS, Medicare, & our Soldiers pay? Why not stop your pay, your staff, or Congress and the Senate to save more money for our country? Why use Seniors, Soldiers, & our Needy as examples? Take the money from those who take no risks and reap the benefits!! Instead of threatening to withhold Social Security, VA and disability payments of people who really need the money.... Lets hold the paychecks of all house & senate members, then see how fast they resolve the debt ceiling crisis !!!!! Might be a good idea if everyone did it. --------------------------------------------------------- The thing I have problems with regarding Obama's statements is that Social Security payments are not at risk from a funding point of view. The SS fund is solvent until 2037. Now, if he and his Treasury Department decide to withhold payments in order to use the funds for other bills, that's another thing and could result in some serious legal problems. He and his staff know that. Therefore, his statements regarding SS checks being withheld are nothing more than scare tactics to gain support for his side. I don't like that kind of dishonest politics. Eisboch It's very similar to what our county, and probably most others, does when taxpayers raise hell about higher taxes for schools... "Then we'll have to get rid of teachers and put more students in each classroom. The poor kids will suffer." Pure bull****. You are pure bull****. |
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On 7/25/11 7:04 PM, I_am_Tosk wrote:
In , says... On Mon, 25 Jul 2011 15:52:34 -0400, wrote: "John H" wrote in message ... ...at: http://www.whitehouse.gov/contact Sent this message: Dear Mr. President, I heard you say you will not guarantee SS checks if the debt ceiling isn't raised. Why is it the scare always has to do with SS, Medicare,& our Soldiers pay? Why not stop your pay, your staff, or Congress and the Senate to save more money for our country? Why use Seniors, Soldiers,& our Needy as examples? Take the money from those who take no risks and reap the benefits!! Instead of threatening to withhold Social Security, VA and disability payments of people who really need the money.... Lets hold the paychecks of all house& senate members, then see how fast they resolve the debt ceiling crisis !!!!! Might be a good idea if everyone did it. --------------------------------------------------------- The thing I have problems with regarding Obama's statements is that Social Security payments are not at risk from a funding point of view. The SS fund is solvent until 2037. Now, if he and his Treasury Department decide to withhold payments in order to use the funds for other bills, that's another thing and could result in some serious legal problems. He and his staff know that. Therefore, his statements regarding SS checks being withheld are nothing more than scare tactics to gain support for his side. I don't like that kind of dishonest politics. Eisboch It's very similar to what our county, and probably most others, does when taxpayers raise hell about higher taxes for schools... "Then we'll have to get rid of teachers and put more students in each classroom. The poor kids will suffer." Pure bull****. WHAT ABOUT THE CHILDREN, WHO WILL TEACH THE CHILDREN, AND THE OLD PEOPLE, AND THE DRUNKEN SPENDERS IN WASHINGTON, AND THE LITTLE PUPPY DOGS???? ... OH MY!!!! Why would educating children concern you? How much have you put away for that kid's college education? |
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On 25/07/2011 11:35 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 25 Jul 2011 13:14:45 -0400, John wrote: ...at: http://www.whitehouse.gov/contact Sent this message: Dear Mr. President, I heard you say you will not guarantee SS checks if the debt ceiling isn't raised. Why is it the scare always has to do with SS, Medicare,& our Soldiers pay? Why not stop your pay, your staff, or Congress and the Senate to save more money for our country? Why use Seniors, Soldiers,& our Needy as examples? Take the money from those who take no risks and reap the benefits!! Instead of threatening to withhold Social Security, VA and disability payments of people who really need the money.... Lets hold the paychecks of all house& senate members, then see how fast they resolve the debt ceiling crisis !!!!! Might be a good idea if everyone did it. The President is not the one who allocates money. That's up to the Congress, who is threatening to default. Why aren't you calling for all the people who voted against raising the debt ceiling to give up their pay and staff? Dream on fleabagger. Congress already passed a proposition that would give Obama money but the democrats shot it down in the senate. Obama is full of ****. Talks a lot, points fingers a lot, but hasn't made a single meaningful commitment with numbers yet. Man s grandstanding on your futures. Thing is, it doesn't mater. USA credit rating is in the toilet short of a balanced budget which no one is talking of no mater how you cook it. -- Obama, enslaving Americans with debt-tax slavery for a spending binge. Doesn't even borrow real money, Bernanke just creates it like a counterfeiter. . |
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On 25/07/2011 1:52 PM, Eisboch wrote:
"John H" wrote in message ... ...at: http://www.whitehouse.gov/contact Sent this message: Dear Mr. President, I heard you say you will not guarantee SS checks if the debt ceiling isn't raised. Why is it the scare always has to do with SS, Medicare, & our Soldiers pay? Why not stop your pay, your staff, or Congress and the Senate to save more money for our country? Why use Seniors, Soldiers, & our Needy as examples? Take the money from those who take no risks and reap the benefits!! Instead of threatening to withhold Social Security, VA and disability payments of people who really need the money.... Lets hold the paychecks of all house & senate members, then see how fast they resolve the debt ceiling crisis !!!!! Might be a good idea if everyone did it. --------------------------------------------------------- The thing I have problems with regarding Obama's statements is that Social Security payments are not at risk from a funding point of view. The SS fund is solvent until 2037. Unless Obama has raided and stole the fund. Which I agree, would be a sin against seniors. Fact is government is running on fraud, deception and bull****. Now, if he and his Treasury Department decide to withhold payments in order to use the funds for other bills, that's another thing and could result in some serious legal problems. He and his staff know that. Therefore, his statements regarding SS checks being withheld are nothing more than scare tactics to gain support for his side. I don't like that kind of dishonest politics. Eisboch Yep, Obama selling fear with lies and bull****. Kind of amazes me the Bernanke US Fed currency fraud hasn't come up. It is very much linked to revenue losses. But that is fleabaggers in denial. USA credit downgrade might be good for USA, as interest rates are fraudulently low and part of the problem. Higher rates might soak up some of the $3 trillion plus of Bernanke currency fraud and abate inflation a bit. -- Obama, enslaving Americans with debt-tax slavery for a spending binge. Doesn't even borrow real money, Bernanke just creates it like a counterfeiter. . |
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On 25/07/2011 2:09 PM, Florida Jim wrote:
On 7/25/2011 3:52 PM, Eisboch wrote: "John H" wrote in message ... ...at: http://www.whitehouse.gov/contact Sent this message: Dear Mr. President, I heard you say you will not guarantee SS checks if the debt ceiling isn't raised. Why is it the scare always has to do with SS, Medicare, & our Soldiers pay? Why not stop your pay, your staff, or Congress and the Senate to save more money for our country? Why use Seniors, Soldiers, & our Needy as examples? Take the money from those who take no risks and reap the benefits!! Instead of threatening to withhold Social Security, VA and disability payments of people who really need the money.... Lets hold the paychecks of all house & senate members, then see how fast they resolve the debt ceiling crisis !!!!! Might be a good idea if everyone did it. --------------------------------------------------------- The thing I have problems with regarding Obama's statements is that Social Security payments are not at risk from a funding point of view. The SS fund is solvent until 2037. Now, if he and his Treasury Department decide to withhold payments in order to use the funds for other bills, that's another thing and could result in some serious legal problems. He and his staff know that. Therefore, his statements regarding SS checks being withheld are nothing more than scare tactics to gain support for his side. I don't like that kind of dishonest politics. Eisboch Just another scare tactic. Add that to the illegal war he has going in lybia and you might just have just cause for impeachment. Yep, Obama has money to fight a Saudi-Euro regime grudge match, but meanwhile 1.5+ million American kids are in homeless families in California. Foreign aide and corporate bailouts should be the first to get the axe as well as a long furrow for 1/2 the military. If Saudi wants protection, they can pay for it. -- Obama, enslaving Americans with debt-tax slavery for a spending binge. Doesn't even borrow real money, Bernanke just creates it like a counterfeiter. . |
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On 25/07/2011 2:16 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 25 Jul 2011 15:52:34 -0400, wrote: "John H" wrote in message ... ...at: http://www.whitehouse.gov/contact Sent this message: Dear Mr. President, I heard you say you will not guarantee SS checks if the debt ceiling isn't raised. Why is it the scare always has to do with SS, Medicare,& our Soldiers pay? Why not stop your pay, your staff, or Congress and the Senate to save more money for our country? Why use Seniors, Soldiers,& our Needy as examples? Take the money from those who take no risks and reap the benefits!! Instead of threatening to withhold Social Security, VA and disability payments of people who really need the money.... Lets hold the paychecks of all house& senate members, then see how fast they resolve the debt ceiling crisis !!!!! Might be a good idea if everyone did it. --------------------------------------------------------- The thing I have problems with regarding Obama's statements is that Social Security payments are not at risk from a funding point of view. The SS fund is solvent until 2037. Now, if he and his Treasury Department decide to withhold payments in order to use the funds for other bills, that's another thing and could result in some serious legal problems. He and his staff know that. Therefore, his statements regarding SS checks being withheld are nothing more than scare tactics to gain support for his side. I don't like that kind of dishonest politics. Eisboch Nope. He's right. There's no legally enforceable right to benefits. http://www.frumforum.com/social-secu...not-guaranteed It is why I always insisted company penions in my name, in my account and under my control. Too bad people would not wake up and do this with CPP (Canada) and SS (US). Pooled funds are all skimmed and bamboozled. Take social security, Obama has already ****ed it away. US government pays zero percent interest and inflation diminishes the value of SS every year. That is on Aug 2nd, Obama needs to direct income to SS to cover its debt to the people. I know, paying debts to its people in good faith isn't something government likes to do. But perhaps citizens should rise and tell, not ask, but demand government priorities get re-arranged. -- Obama, enslaving Americans with debt-tax slavery for a spending binge. Doesn't even borrow real money, Bernanke just creates it like a counterfeiter. . |
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On 25/07/2011 2:28 PM, Florida Jim wrote:
On 7/25/2011 4:16 PM, wrote: On Mon, 25 Jul 2011 15:52:34 -0400, wrote: "John H" wrote in message ... ...at: http://www.whitehouse.gov/contact Sent this message: Dear Mr. President, I heard you say you will not guarantee SS checks if the debt ceiling isn't raised. Why is it the scare always has to do with SS, Medicare,& our Soldiers pay? Why not stop your pay, your staff, or Congress and the Senate to save more money for our country? Why use Seniors, Soldiers,& our Needy as examples? Take the money from those who take no risks and reap the benefits!! Instead of threatening to withhold Social Security, VA and disability payments of people who really need the money.... Lets hold the paychecks of all house& senate members, then see how fast they resolve the debt ceiling crisis !!!!! Might be a good idea if everyone did it. --------------------------------------------------------- The thing I have problems with regarding Obama's statements is that Social Security payments are not at risk from a funding point of view. The SS fund is solvent until 2037. Now, if he and his Treasury Department decide to withhold payments in order to use the funds for other bills, that's another thing and could result in some serious legal problems. He and his staff know that. Therefore, his statements regarding SS checks being withheld are nothing more than scare tactics to gain support for his side. I don't like that kind of dishonest politics. Eisboch Nope. He's right. There's no legally enforceable right to benefits. http://www.frumforum.com/social-secu...not-guaranteed Keep on making those payments dear. I need your money. It must be frustrating for you that SSA will be out of business before you get to the door. Hey, if Obama does not pay SS, perhaps the workers should demand employers put the money in escrow for them....why pay for a government that doesn't honor its debt to seniors? Your just ****ing the money away giving it to the government. -- Obama, enslaving Americans with debt-tax slavery for a spending binge. Doesn't even borrow real money, Bernanke just creates it like a counterfeiter. . |
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On 25/07/2011 3:44 PM, John H wrote:
On Mon, 25 Jul 2011 15:52:34 -0400, wrote: "John H" wrote in message ... ...at: http://www.whitehouse.gov/contact Sent this message: Dear Mr. President, I heard you say you will not guarantee SS checks if the debt ceiling isn't raised. Why is it the scare always has to do with SS, Medicare,& our Soldiers pay? Why not stop your pay, your staff, or Congress and the Senate to save more money for our country? Why use Seniors, Soldiers,& our Needy as examples? Take the money from those who take no risks and reap the benefits!! Instead of threatening to withhold Social Security, VA and disability payments of people who really need the money.... Lets hold the paychecks of all house& senate members, then see how fast they resolve the debt ceiling crisis !!!!! Might be a good idea if everyone did it. --------------------------------------------------------- The thing I have problems with regarding Obama's statements is that Social Security payments are not at risk from a funding point of view. The SS fund is solvent until 2037. Now, if he and his Treasury Department decide to withhold payments in order to use the funds for other bills, that's another thing and could result in some serious legal problems. He and his staff know that. Therefore, his statements regarding SS checks being withheld are nothing more than scare tactics to gain support for his side. I don't like that kind of dishonest politics. Eisboch It's very similar to what our county, and probably most others, does when taxpayers raise hell about higher taxes for schools... "Then we'll have to get rid of teachers and put more students in each classroom. The poor kids will suffer." Pure bull****. Really? Isn't state taxes fund it for 98% of it? Maybe leave the union? Then direct the money to the state. LOL. -- Obama, enslaving Americans with debt-tax slavery for a spending binge. Doesn't even borrow real money, Bernanke just creates it like a counterfeiter. . |
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