On Thu, 18 Aug 2011 16:04:51 -0400, BeachBum "not a wrote:

On 8/18/2011 3:34 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 18 Aug 2011 15:04:59 -0400, John
wrote:

On Thu, 18 Aug 2011 08:50:57 -0400, BeachBum"not a wrote:

On 8/17/2011 11:35 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 17/08/2011 8:05 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 17 Aug 2011 20:02:51 -0400, Wayne B
wrote:

On Wed, 17 Aug 2011 19:27:42 -0400, wrote:

In aweb.com, "not a
says...

On 8/17/2011 12:04 AM, wrote:
On Tue, 16 Aug 2011 19:00:06 -0400, wrote:

In article8OGdnUEBcLTORdfTnZ2dnUVZ_judnZ2d@giganews. com,
says...

I suspect this sailboat captain is rethinking who has the "Right
of Way".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_tUoUxzt9sI

The bigger you are the more right of way you have. Doesn't matter
if you
are on the highway or on the water.

According to the regulation I've read, this is incorrect a lot of the
time.

Cite please.

God doesn't isn't going to accept your argument that you aren't
supposed
to be at the pearly gates because you had the right of way and you
should be sent back.

==============

The sailboat did not have the right of way. The skipper took a
foolish risk and lost the bet.

Rule 18(b)

(b) A sailing vessel underway shall keep out of the way of:

a vessel restricted in her ability to maneuver;

http://www.navcen.uscg.gov/?pageName=Rule18

And, I never said otherwise.

However, in international waters, that wouldn't be the case, so when
BAR claimed that the bigger you are means you have more rights, he's
wrong in several cases.

Like I said, best you are **** poor and can't afford a boat.

Always wrong deplume.

What ever happened to that dream boat you and several of your friends
were going to chip in on?

I was discussing this with a friend a few days ago. The plume started off with a tale about a sail
boat investment with some friends. Sounded great.

Then we all became moronic, assholish, racist homophobes.

So, I guess when you bought your boat (you have a big boat right?),
you just bought the first thing you saw, no questions asked. Since you
were born knowing how to sail (or run a 40 ft motor boat), you didn't
bother to take lessons or make any plans to figure out how to do that.
You didn't "become" a moronic, assholish, racist, homophobe. You were
one all along.

What John was talking about makes perfect sense now. Thanks for clearing
up the " I'm gonna buy a boat" mystery.

Perhaps the plume should have spent some time asking questions rather than telling us how moronic,
assholish, racist, and homophobic we were.

On Thu, 18 Aug 2011 16:12:45 -0400, BeachBum "not a wrote:

On 8/18/2011 3:31 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 18 Aug 2011 14:02:50 -0400, Wayne B
wrote:

On Thu, 18 Aug 2011 09:40:42 -0400, JustWait
wrote:

The sailboat did not have the right of way. The skipper took a
foolish risk and lost the bet.

Rule 18(b)

(b) A sailing vessel underway shall keep out of the way of:

a vessel restricted in her ability to maneuver;

http://www.navcen.uscg.gov/?pageName=Rule18

And, I never said otherwise.

However, in international waters, that wouldn't be the case

==============

The rules in international waters are exactly the same with respect to
that situation. See rule 18(b) of the international COLREGS:

http://www.boatingsafety.com/colregs.htm



Tankers and large vessels are required by international law to avoid
collisions. They are not necessarily restricted in maneuverability,
since there are nothing preventing them from moving to one side or the
other. There is no such rule that says a tanker can run down a smaller
boat.

Nothing in 18b talks about this situation.

Take the limiting case of two tankers. The one overtaking is 700 ft
long. The one being overtaken is 300 ft long. Your claim that the
smaller one must get out of the way of the bigger one is nonsense.

In the case of a crossing situation, I've heard the term the boat on
the right is right... just like when two cars come to stop signs at
the same time.

Inland and in restricted situations, such as a channel, they are
restricted by draft, for example.

In this situation, it is perfectly clear that the sailor ****ed up. You
will learn, as you mature, that all your book learnin and Goggling is
trumped by common sense and good judgement.

Wow. You're making some big assumptions there!

On 8/18/2011 6:39 PM, John H wrote:
On Thu, 18 Aug 2011 16:12:45 -0400, BeachBum"not a wrote:

On 8/18/2011 3:31 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 18 Aug 2011 14:02:50 -0400, Wayne B
wrote:

On Thu, 18 Aug 2011 09:40:42 -0400, JustWait
wrote:

The sailboat did not have the right of way. The skipper took a
foolish risk and lost the bet.

Rule 18(b)

(b) A sailing vessel underway shall keep out of the way of:

a vessel restricted in her ability to maneuver;

http://www.navcen.uscg.gov/?pageName=Rule18

And, I never said otherwise.

However, in international waters, that wouldn't be the case

==============

The rules in international waters are exactly the same with respect to
that situation. See rule 18(b) of the international COLREGS:

http://www.boatingsafety.com/colregs.htm



Tankers and large vessels are required by international law to avoid
collisions. They are not necessarily restricted in maneuverability,
since there are nothing preventing them from moving to one side or the
other. There is no such rule that says a tanker can run down a smaller
boat.

Nothing in 18b talks about this situation.

Take the limiting case of two tankers. The one overtaking is 700 ft
long. The one being overtaken is 300 ft long. Your claim that the
smaller one must get out of the way of the bigger one is nonsense.

In the case of a crossing situation, I've heard the term the boat on
the right is right... just like when two cars come to stop signs at
the same time.

Inland and in restricted situations, such as a channel, they are
restricted by draft, for example.

In this situation, it is perfectly clear that the sailor ****ed up. You
will learn, as you mature, that all your book learnin and Goggling is
trumped by common sense and good judgement.

Wow. You're making some big assumptions there!

OK maybee she won't figger it out.

On 8/18/2011 6:37 PM, John H wrote:
On Thu, 18 Aug 2011 16:04:51 -0400, BeachBum"not a wrote:

On 8/18/2011 3:34 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 18 Aug 2011 15:04:59 -0400, John
wrote:

On Thu, 18 Aug 2011 08:50:57 -0400, BeachBum"not a wrote:

On 8/17/2011 11:35 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 17/08/2011 8:05 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 17 Aug 2011 20:02:51 -0400, Wayne B
wrote:

On Wed, 17 Aug 2011 19:27:42 -0400, wrote:

In aweb.com, "not a
says...

On 8/17/2011 12:04 AM, wrote:
On Tue, 16 Aug 2011 19:00:06 -0400, wrote:

In article8OGdnUEBcLTORdfTnZ2dnUVZ_judnZ2d@giganews. com,
says...

I suspect this sailboat captain is rethinking who has the "Right
of Way".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_tUoUxzt9sI

The bigger you are the more right of way you have. Doesn't matter
if you
are on the highway or on the water.

According to the regulation I've read, this is incorrect a lot of the
time.

Cite please.

God doesn't isn't going to accept your argument that you aren't
supposed
to be at the pearly gates because you had the right of way and you
should be sent back.

==============

The sailboat did not have the right of way. The skipper took a
foolish risk and lost the bet.

Rule 18(b)

(b) A sailing vessel underway shall keep out of the way of:

a vessel restricted in her ability to maneuver;

http://www.navcen.uscg.gov/?pageName=Rule18

And, I never said otherwise.

However, in international waters, that wouldn't be the case, so when
BAR claimed that the bigger you are means you have more rights, he's
wrong in several cases.

Like I said, best you are **** poor and can't afford a boat.

Always wrong deplume.

What ever happened to that dream boat you and several of your friends
were going to chip in on?

I was discussing this with a friend a few days ago. The plume started off with a tale about a sail
boat investment with some friends. Sounded great.

Then we all became moronic, assholish, racist homophobes.

So, I guess when you bought your boat (you have a big boat right?),
you just bought the first thing you saw, no questions asked. Since you
were born knowing how to sail (or run a 40 ft motor boat), you didn't
bother to take lessons or make any plans to figure out how to do that.
You didn't "become" a moronic, assholish, racist, homophobe. You were
one all along.

What John was talking about makes perfect sense now. Thanks for clearing
up the " I'm gonna buy a boat" mystery.

Perhaps the plume should have spent some time asking questions rather than telling us how moronic,
assholish, racist, and homophobic we were.

She could have learned a lot but chose not to. Her loss.

On Thu, 18 Aug 2011 18:39:16 -0400, John H
wrote:

On Thu, 18 Aug 2011 16:12:45 -0400, BeachBum "not a wrote:

On 8/18/2011 3:31 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 18 Aug 2011 14:02:50 -0400, Wayne B
wrote:

On Thu, 18 Aug 2011 09:40:42 -0400, JustWait
wrote:

The sailboat did not have the right of way. The skipper took a
foolish risk and lost the bet.

Rule 18(b)

(b) A sailing vessel underway shall keep out of the way of:

a vessel restricted in her ability to maneuver;

http://www.navcen.uscg.gov/?pageName=Rule18

And, I never said otherwise.

However, in international waters, that wouldn't be the case

==============

The rules in international waters are exactly the same with respect to
that situation. See rule 18(b) of the international COLREGS:

http://www.boatingsafety.com/colregs.htm



Tankers and large vessels are required by international law to avoid
collisions. They are not necessarily restricted in maneuverability,
since there are nothing preventing them from moving to one side or the
other. There is no such rule that says a tanker can run down a smaller
boat.

Nothing in 18b talks about this situation.

Take the limiting case of two tankers. The one overtaking is 700 ft
long. The one being overtaken is 300 ft long. Your claim that the
smaller one must get out of the way of the bigger one is nonsense.

In the case of a crossing situation, I've heard the term the boat on
the right is right... just like when two cars come to stop signs at
the same time.

Inland and in restricted situations, such as a channel, they are
restricted by draft, for example.

In this situation, it is perfectly clear that the sailor ****ed up. You
will learn, as you mature, that all your book learnin and Goggling is
trumped by common sense and good judgement.

Wow. You're making some big assumptions there!

Wow. Two racist liars agree with each other! Call CNN!

On Thu, 18 Aug 2011 18:24:33 -0400, BAR wrote:


However, in international waters, that wouldn't be the case, so when
BAR claimed that the bigger you are means you have more rights, he's
wrong in several cases.

You missed my point completely. It doesn't matter if you have the right
of way if you die in the process of expecting the other boat, car or 18-
wheeler to yield to your right of way.

When there are ships or barges transiting the Potomac river everyone has
to get out of their way. Even in the Chesapeake Bay you need to get out
of the way of ships and barges when they are in the channel. due to the
fact that outside of the channel it can get extremely shallow quickly.

If you can defend your right of way from the grave good luck on coming
back and boating in this world again.




As usual, you've missed your own point. The rules are there to be
followed by everyone. If people start assuming what the other is going
to do, then that's when you'll be able to defend your action from
grave.

On Thu, 18 Aug 2011 18:37:35 -0400, John H
wrote:

On Thu, 18 Aug 2011 16:04:51 -0400, BeachBum "not a wrote:

On 8/18/2011 3:34 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 18 Aug 2011 15:04:59 -0400, John
wrote:

On Thu, 18 Aug 2011 08:50:57 -0400, BeachBum"not a wrote:

On 8/17/2011 11:35 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 17/08/2011 8:05 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 17 Aug 2011 20:02:51 -0400, Wayne B
wrote:

On Wed, 17 Aug 2011 19:27:42 -0400, wrote:

In aweb.com, "not a
says...

On 8/17/2011 12:04 AM, wrote:
On Tue, 16 Aug 2011 19:00:06 -0400, wrote:

In article8OGdnUEBcLTORdfTnZ2dnUVZ_judnZ2d@giganews. com,
says...

I suspect this sailboat captain is rethinking who has the "Right
of Way".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_tUoUxzt9sI

The bigger you are the more right of way you have. Doesn't matter
if you
are on the highway or on the water.

According to the regulation I've read, this is incorrect a lot of the
time.

Cite please.

God doesn't isn't going to accept your argument that you aren't
supposed
to be at the pearly gates because you had the right of way and you
should be sent back.

==============

The sailboat did not have the right of way. The skipper took a
foolish risk and lost the bet.

Rule 18(b)

(b) A sailing vessel underway shall keep out of the way of:

a vessel restricted in her ability to maneuver;

http://www.navcen.uscg.gov/?pageName=Rule18

And, I never said otherwise.

However, in international waters, that wouldn't be the case, so when
BAR claimed that the bigger you are means you have more rights, he's
wrong in several cases.

Like I said, best you are **** poor and can't afford a boat.

Always wrong deplume.

What ever happened to that dream boat you and several of your friends
were going to chip in on?

I was discussing this with a friend a few days ago. The plume started off with a tale about a sail
boat investment with some friends. Sounded great.

Then we all became moronic, assholish, racist homophobes.

So, I guess when you bought your boat (you have a big boat right?),
you just bought the first thing you saw, no questions asked. Since you
were born knowing how to sail (or run a 40 ft motor boat), you didn't
bother to take lessons or make any plans to figure out how to do that.
You didn't "become" a moronic, assholish, racist, homophobe. You were
one all along.

What John was talking about makes perfect sense now. Thanks for clearing
up the " I'm gonna buy a boat" mystery.

Perhaps the plume should have spent some time asking questions rather than telling us how moronic,
assholish, racist, and homophobic we were.

Perhaps, you're just embarrassed by how accurate I've been about you
being a lying, racist, asshole.

On 8/18/2011 6:37 PM, John H wrote:
On Thu, 18 Aug 2011 16:04:51 -0400, BeachBum"not a wrote:

On 8/18/2011 3:34 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 18 Aug 2011 15:04:59 -0400, John
wrote:

On Thu, 18 Aug 2011 08:50:57 -0400, BeachBum"not a wrote:

On 8/17/2011 11:35 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 17/08/2011 8:05 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 17 Aug 2011 20:02:51 -0400, Wayne B
wrote:

On Wed, 17 Aug 2011 19:27:42 -0400, wrote:

In aweb.com, "not a
says...

On 8/17/2011 12:04 AM, wrote:
On Tue, 16 Aug 2011 19:00:06 -0400, wrote:

In article8OGdnUEBcLTORdfTnZ2dnUVZ_judnZ2d@giganews. com,
says...

I suspect this sailboat captain is rethinking who has the "Right
of Way".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_tUoUxzt9sI

The bigger you are the more right of way you have. Doesn't matter
if you
are on the highway or on the water.

According to the regulation I've read, this is incorrect a lot of the
time.

Cite please.

God doesn't isn't going to accept your argument that you aren't
supposed
to be at the pearly gates because you had the right of way and you
should be sent back.

==============

The sailboat did not have the right of way. The skipper took a
foolish risk and lost the bet.

Rule 18(b)

(b) A sailing vessel underway shall keep out of the way of:

a vessel restricted in her ability to maneuver;

http://www.navcen.uscg.gov/?pageName=Rule18

And, I never said otherwise.

However, in international waters, that wouldn't be the case, so when
BAR claimed that the bigger you are means you have more rights, he's
wrong in several cases.

Like I said, best you are **** poor and can't afford a boat.

Always wrong deplume.

What ever happened to that dream boat you and several of your friends
were going to chip in on?

I was discussing this with a friend a few days ago. The plume started off with a tale about a sail
boat investment with some friends. Sounded great.

Then we all became moronic, assholish, racist homophobes.

So, I guess when you bought your boat (you have a big boat right?),
you just bought the first thing you saw, no questions asked. Since you
were born knowing how to sail (or run a 40 ft motor boat), you didn't
bother to take lessons or make any plans to figure out how to do that.
You didn't "become" a moronic, assholish, racist, homophobe. You were
one all along.

What John was talking about makes perfect sense now. Thanks for clearing
up the " I'm gonna buy a boat" mystery.

Perhaps the plume should have spent some time asking questions rather than telling us how moronic,
assholish, racist, and homophobic we were.

Harry (you all call him plum) never meant to do anything here but come
here and support, well, Harry.. Just like Paul, and soooo many others...

On Aug 18, 6:54*pm, wrote:
On Thu, 18 Aug 2011 18:39:16 -0400, John H
wrote:









On Thu, 18 Aug 2011 16:12:45 -0400, BeachBum "not a wrote:

On 8/18/2011 3:31 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 18 Aug 2011 14:02:50 -0400, Wayne B
*wrote:

On Thu, 18 Aug 2011 09:40:42 -0400, JustWait
*wrote:

The sailboat did not have the right of way. The skipper took a
foolish risk and lost the bet.

Rule 18(b)

(b) A sailing vessel underway shall keep out of the way of:

a vessel restricted in her ability to maneuver;

http://www.navcen.uscg.gov/?pageName=Rule18

And, I never said otherwise.

However, in international waters, that wouldn't be the case

==============

The rules in international waters are exactly the same with respect to
that situation. *See rule 18(b) of the international COLREGS:

http://www.boatingsafety.com/colregs.htm

Tankers and large vessels are required by international law to avoid
collisions. They are not necessarily restricted in maneuverability,
since there are nothing preventing them from moving to one side or the
other. There is no such rule that says a tanker can run down a smaller
boat.

Nothing in 18b talks about this situation.

Take the limiting case of two tankers. The one overtaking is 700 ft
long. The one being overtaken is 300 ft long. Your claim that the
smaller one must get out of the way of the bigger one is nonsense.

In the case of a crossing situation, I've heard the term the boat on
the right is right... just like when two cars come to stop signs at
the same time.

Inland and in restricted situations, such as a channel, they are
restricted by draft, for example.

In this situation, it is perfectly clear that the sailor ****ed up. You
will learn, as you mature, that all your book learnin and Goggling is
trumped by common sense and good judgement.

Wow. You're making some big assumptions there!

Wow. Two racist liars agree with each other! Call CNN!

Jessie Jackson and Al Sharpton?

On Aug 18, 6:56*pm, wrote:
On Thu, 18 Aug 2011 18:37:35 -0400, John H
wrote:









On Thu, 18 Aug 2011 16:04:51 -0400, BeachBum "not a wrote:

On 8/18/2011 3:34 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 18 Aug 2011 15:04:59 -0400, John
wrote:

On Thu, 18 Aug 2011 08:50:57 -0400, BeachBum"not a *wrote:

On 8/17/2011 11:35 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 17/08/2011 8:05 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 17 Aug 2011 20:02:51 -0400, Wayne B
*wrote:

On Wed, 17 Aug 2011 19:27:42 -0400, *wrote:

In aweb.com, "not a
says...

On 8/17/2011 12:04 AM, wrote:
On Tue, 16 Aug 2011 19:00:06 -0400, *wrote:

In article8OGdnUEBcLTORdfTnZ2dnUVZ_judn...@giganews. com,
says...

I suspect this sailboat captain is rethinking who has the "Right
of Way".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_tUoUxzt9sI

The bigger you are the more right of way you have. Doesn't matter
if you
are on the highway or on the water.

According to the regulation I've read, this is incorrect a lot of the
time.

Cite please.

God doesn't isn't going to accept your argument that you aren't
supposed
to be at the pearly gates because you had the right of way and you
should be sent back.

==============

The sailboat did not have the right of way. The skipper took a
foolish risk and lost the bet.

Rule 18(b)

(b) A sailing vessel underway shall keep out of the way of:

a vessel restricted in her ability to maneuver;

http://www.navcen.uscg.gov/?pageName=Rule18

And, I never said otherwise.

However, in international waters, that wouldn't be the case, so when
BAR claimed that the bigger you are means you have more rights, he's
wrong in several cases.

Like I said, best you are **** poor and can't afford a boat.

Always wrong deplume.

What ever happened to that dream boat you and several of your friends
were going to chip in on?

I was discussing this with a friend a few days ago. The plume started off with a tale about a sail
boat investment with some friends. Sounded great.

Then we all became moronic, assholish, racist homophobes.

So, I guess when you bought your boat (you have a big boat right?),
you just bought the first thing you saw, no questions asked. Since you
were born knowing how to sail (or run a 40 ft motor boat), you didn't
bother to take lessons or make any plans to figure out how to do that..
You didn't "become" a moronic, assholish, racist, homophobe. You were
one all along.

What John was talking about makes perfect sense now. Thanks for clearing
up the " I'm gonna buy a boat" mystery.

Perhaps the plume should have spent some time asking questions rather than telling us how moronic,
assholish, racist, and homophobic we were.

Perhaps, you're just embarrassed by how accurate I've been about you
being a lying, racist, asshole.

mirror, mirror, on the wall....