Just for the record
 

On 9/25/11 8:29 AM, BAR wrote:
In articlemOednftfCbv8nuLTnZ2dnUVZ_q6dnZ2d@earthlink .com,
says...

On 9/25/11 12:37 AM, Wayne B wrote:
On Sat, 24 Sep 2011 20:39:48 -0400, John
wrote:

On Sat, 24 Sep 2011 18:08:28 -0400, Wayne wrote:

On Sat, 24 Sep 2011 09:57:46 -0400, wrote:

So answer his question. Just when does a fertilized egg become a human?

At conception.

===

That's a religious view not supportable by any logic or science. It
even fails the common sense test. You are entitled to your beliefs
as long as you don't try to legislate them for everyone else.

Wayne, are you feeling legislated against?

=======

Not at all but I'm concerned by the single issue zealousness
surrounding all of this. The country faces more important challenges
and if the Republican party can not find a more centrist position on
women's rights, they run the risk of reelecting the current
administration. Think about that.


I hope the GOP maintains its prejudice against women, blacks, Latinos,
government, and all the other groups it hates. In fact, I hope it adds
groups. The last thing this country needs is a GOP administration that
is hell-bent on destroying what little is left of the social safety
network.

So much for Republican racism.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...ain-wins-cpac-
florida-straw-poll/




Naw...that was just a relative handful of Republican zealots expressing
their disdain for "Wreckless" Perry. Gotta admit, though, that Cain is a
trip and fun to watch, if not take seriously.

What happened to Bachmann? And is Sarah getting back in the race? Stay
tuned for more of the GOP Nominating Follies!

Just for the record
 

On 9/25/2011 12:37 AM, Wayne B wrote:
On Sat, 24 Sep 2011 20:39:48 -0400, John
wrote:

On Sat, 24 Sep 2011 18:08:28 -0400, Wayne wrote:

On Sat, 24 Sep 2011 09:57:46 -0400, wrote:

So answer his question. Just when does a fertilized egg become a human?

At conception.

===

That's a religious view not supportable by any logic or science. It
even fails the common sense test. You are entitled to your beliefs
as long as you don't try to legislate them for everyone else.

Wayne, are you feeling legislated against?

=======

Not at all but I'm concerned by the single issue zealousness
surrounding all of this. The country faces more important challenges
and if the Republican party can not find a more centrist position on
women's rights, they run the risk of reelecting the current
administration. Think about that.

Where, exactly, do centrists stand on these issues. I definitely agree
that we don't want to risk reelection "the current administration"

Just for the record
 

On 9/25/2011 6:33 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 9/25/11 12:37 AM, Wayne B wrote:
On Sat, 24 Sep 2011 20:39:48 -0400, John
wrote:

On Sat, 24 Sep 2011 18:08:28 -0400, Wayne
wrote:

On Sat, 24 Sep 2011 09:57:46 -0400, wrote:

So answer his question. Just when does a fertilized egg become a
human?

At conception.

===

That's a religious view not supportable by any logic or science. It
even fails the common sense test. You are entitled to your beliefs
as long as you don't try to legislate them for everyone else.

Wayne, are you feeling legislated against?

=======

Not at all but I'm concerned by the single issue zealousness
surrounding all of this. The country faces more important challenges
and if the Republican party can not find a more centrist position on
women's rights, they run the risk of reelecting the current
administration. Think about that.


I hope the GOP maintains its prejudice against women, blacks, Latinos,
government, and all the other groups it hates. In fact, I hope it adds
groups. The last thing this country needs is a GOP administration that
is hell-bent on destroying what little is left of the social safety
network.

Wassa matta? Your daughter had enough of your bull****?

Just for the record
 

On 9/25/2011 8:31 AM, BAR wrote:
In articleytednb5ToMGclOLTnZ2dnUVZ_hadnZ2d@earthlink .com, X ` Man
says...

On 9/24/11 12:47 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 9/24/2011 12:39 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 24 Sep 2011 11:13:41 -0400, wrote:

In ,
says...

On Sat, 24 Sep 2011 09:08:42 -0400, wrote:

In ,

says...

On 9/24/2011 2:51 AM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 23/09/2011 6:54 PM, John H wrote:

When your wife asked you to feel the baby kicking, did you argue
that
it was only a fetus?

So if at 7 months, the woman miscarries, you beat her up for
murder with
the bible in hand?

Your tag line is stupid and annoying. And that doesn't start
until 20+
weeks or so.

Well, I dare say you have a lot of nerve going after John for a
sig file
when you are by far the very most prolific poster on the group and
spend
much more time and many more paragraphs promoting your own personal
views on others... But then you go after those of us who pretty much
keep our beliefs to ourselves...

So, why don't YOU give answers to Wayne's questions? Holier than thou
John won't.

There are still several unanswered questions out there.

I wholeheartedly agree! BUT, when someone acts like they are absolutely
SURE that a fetus is a human, then he must know when a fertilized egg
becomes a human.

I don't have a puppy in that fight. ;-)

... nor should the government.


But they did get involved. Rowe vs Wade. It's settled law according to
the Supreme Court, the govt. is involved.


D'uh. What about the conservative states working overtime to outlaw
abortion or to make it nearly impossible to get one? Or are you not
aware of those developments, either?

Move to a liberal state. Remember it is a choice, your choice to live in
a conservative state.



Why waste your time on Harry's red herring... We have what amounts to
abortion on demand in every state. And if you don't like the law in your
state, the no compromise progressives set it up so some rapist can take
your kid over state lines for an abortion without even telling the
parent...

Just for the record
 

On 9/25/2011 8:33 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 9/25/11 8:29 AM, BAR wrote:
In articlemOednftfCbv8nuLTnZ2dnUVZ_q6dnZ2d@earthlink .com,
says...

On 9/25/11 12:37 AM, Wayne B wrote:
On Sat, 24 Sep 2011 20:39:48 -0400, John
wrote:

On Sat, 24 Sep 2011 18:08:28 -0400, Wayne
wrote:

On Sat, 24 Sep 2011 09:57:46 -0400, wrote:

So answer his question. Just when does a fertilized egg become a
human?

At conception.

===

That's a religious view not supportable by any logic or science. It
even fails the common sense test. You are entitled to your beliefs
as long as you don't try to legislate them for everyone else.

Wayne, are you feeling legislated against?

=======

Not at all but I'm concerned by the single issue zealousness
surrounding all of this. The country faces more important challenges
and if the Republican party can not find a more centrist position on
women's rights, they run the risk of reelecting the current
administration. Think about that.


I hope the GOP maintains its prejudice against women, blacks, Latinos,
government, and all the other groups it hates. In fact, I hope it adds
groups. The last thing this country needs is a GOP administration that
is hell-bent on destroying what little is left of the social safety
network.

So much for Republican racism.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...ain-wins-cpac-
florida-straw-poll/




Naw...that was just a relative handful of Republican zealots expressing
their disdain for "Wreckless" Perry. Gotta admit, though, that Cain is a
trip and fun to watch, if not take seriously.

What happened to Bachmann? And is Sarah getting back in the race? Stay
tuned for more of the GOP Nominating Follies!

That was a short visit. Let me guess. She refused to discuss politics
with you.

Just for the record
 

On 9/25/2011 12:37 AM, Wayne B wrote:
On Sat, 24 Sep 2011 20:39:48 -0400, John
wrote:

On Sat, 24 Sep 2011 18:08:28 -0400, Wayne wrote:

On Sat, 24 Sep 2011 09:57:46 -0400, wrote:

So answer his question. Just when does a fertilized egg become a human?

At conception.

===

That's a religious view not supportable by any logic or science. It
even fails the common sense test. You are entitled to your beliefs
as long as you don't try to legislate them for everyone else.

Wayne, are you feeling legislated against?

=======

Not at all but I'm concerned by the single issue zealousness
surrounding all of this. The country faces more important challenges
and if the Republican party can not find a more centrist position on
women's rights, they run the risk of reelecting the current
administration. Think about that.


So, what do you consider a "centrist" position? We have abortion on
demand now, minors can sidestep their own parents and go over state
lines if their parents did choose to be in a more restrictive state? So,
what do you suggest is a "centrist" view. Maybe make the mothers uh,
well, get some unbiased info.... nope, can't do that.. maybe talk to the
family with the parents present, nope, can't do that... maybe suggest a
full term and adoption.. oppps, that won't happen... So, what is a
"centrist" position?

Just for the record
 

On 9/25/2011 6:41 AM, HarryK wrote:
On 9/24/11 12:14 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 9/24/2011 11:13 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In ,
says...

On Sat, 24 Sep 2011 09:08:42 -0400, wrote:

In ,

says...

On 9/24/2011 2:51 AM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 23/09/2011 6:54 PM, John H wrote:

When your wife asked you to feel the baby kicking, did you argue
that
it was only a fetus?

So if at 7 months, the woman miscarries, you beat her up for
murder with
the bible in hand?

Your tag line is stupid and annoying. And that doesn't start until
20+
weeks or so.

Well, I dare say you have a lot of nerve going after John for a sig
file
when you are by far the very most prolific poster on the group and
spend
much more time and many more paragraphs promoting your own personal
views on others... But then you go after those of us who pretty much
keep our beliefs to ourselves...

So, why don't YOU give answers to Wayne's questions? Holier than thou
John won't.

There are still several unanswered questions out there.

I wholeheartedly agree! BUT, when someone acts like they are absolutely
SURE that a fetus is a human, then he must know when a fertilized egg
becomes a human.

Human, or Life? What's it gonna' be next time around?

There is no compromise on your side at all as we have seen in the recent
dismissal of the "compromise" don't ask don't tell in the military. The
problem with your agenda is there is no room for compromise, unless it's
merely a means to an uncompromising end.. Thus, it's really not worth
playing pigeon hole with you..

Such logic! snerk

Works at least as well as yours.

Just for the record
 

On 9/25/11 8:51 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 9/25/2011 8:31 AM, BAR wrote:
In articleytednb5ToMGclOLTnZ2dnUVZ_hadnZ2d@earthlink .com, X ` Man
says...

On 9/24/11 12:47 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 9/24/2011 12:39 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 24 Sep 2011 11:13:41 -0400, wrote:

In ,
says...

On Sat, 24 Sep 2011 09:08:42 -0400, wrote:

In ,

says...

On 9/24/2011 2:51 AM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 23/09/2011 6:54 PM, John H wrote:

When your wife asked you to feel the baby kicking, did you argue
that
it was only a fetus?

So if at 7 months, the woman miscarries, you beat her up for
murder with
the bible in hand?

Your tag line is stupid and annoying. And that doesn't start
until 20+
weeks or so.

Well, I dare say you have a lot of nerve going after John for a
sig file
when you are by far the very most prolific poster on the group and
spend
much more time and many more paragraphs promoting your own
personal
views on others... But then you go after those of us who pretty
much
keep our beliefs to ourselves...

So, why don't YOU give answers to Wayne's questions? Holier than
thou
John won't.

There are still several unanswered questions out there.

I wholeheartedly agree! BUT, when someone acts like they are
absolutely
SURE that a fetus is a human, then he must know when a fertilized egg
becomes a human.

I don't have a puppy in that fight. ;-)

... nor should the government.


But they did get involved. Rowe vs Wade. It's settled law according to
the Supreme Court, the govt. is involved.


D'uh. What about the conservative states working overtime to outlaw
abortion or to make it nearly impossible to get one? Or are you not
aware of those developments, either?

Move to a liberal state. Remember it is a choice, your choice to live in
a conservative state.



Why waste your time on Harry's red herring... We have what amounts to
abortion on demand in every state. And if you don't like the law in your
state, the no compromise progressives set it up so some rapist can take
your kid over state lines for an abortion without even telling the
parent...

No, dummy, we don't. You are as uninformed on the abortion issue as you
are on virtually every other issue.

Just for the record
 

On 9/25/11 8:55 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 9/25/2011 12:37 AM, Wayne B wrote:
On Sat, 24 Sep 2011 20:39:48 -0400, John
wrote:

On Sat, 24 Sep 2011 18:08:28 -0400, Wayne
wrote:

On Sat, 24 Sep 2011 09:57:46 -0400, wrote:

So answer his question. Just when does a fertilized egg become a
human?

At conception.

===

That's a religious view not supportable by any logic or science. It
even fails the common sense test. You are entitled to your beliefs
as long as you don't try to legislate them for everyone else.

Wayne, are you feeling legislated against?

=======

Not at all but I'm concerned by the single issue zealousness
surrounding all of this. The country faces more important challenges
and if the Republican party can not find a more centrist position on
women's rights, they run the risk of reelecting the current
administration. Think about that.


So, what do you consider a "centrist" position? We have abortion on
demand now, minors can sidestep their own parents and go over state
lines if their parents did choose to be in a more restrictive state? So,
what do you suggest is a "centrist" view. Maybe make the mothers uh,
well, get some unbiased info.... nope, can't do that.. maybe talk to the
family with the parents present, nope, can't do that... maybe suggest a
full term and adoption.. oppps, that won't happen... So, what is a
"centrist" position?


What in your mind is "unbiased" information, and how should it be
presented, and by who?

Just for the record
 

In article ,
says...

On Sat, 24 Sep 2011 11:13:41 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Sat, 24 Sep 2011 09:08:42 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On 9/24/2011 2:51 AM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 23/09/2011 6:54 PM, John H wrote:

When your wife asked you to feel the baby kicking, did you argue that
it was only a fetus?

So if at 7 months, the woman miscarries, you beat her up for murder with
the bible in hand?

Your tag line is stupid and annoying. And that doesn't start until 20+
weeks or so.

Well, I dare say you have a lot of nerve going after John for a sig file
when you are by far the very most prolific poster on the group and spend
much more time and many more paragraphs promoting your own personal
views on others... But then you go after those of us who pretty much
keep our beliefs to ourselves...

So, why don't YOU give answers to Wayne's questions? Holier than thou
John won't.

There are still several unanswered questions out there.

I wholeheartedly agree! BUT, when someone acts like they are absolutely
SURE that a fetus is a human, then he must know when a fertilized egg
becomes a human.

I don't have a puppy in that fight. ;-)

... nor should the government.

I agree!