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On 9/25/2011 3:09 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 25 Sep 2011 10:56:52 -0400, wrote: On 9/25/2011 10:49 AM, X ` Man wrote: On 9/25/11 10:44 AM, wrote: On Sun, 25 Sep 2011 08:30:20 -0400, wrote: Should men have to pay child support when they wanted the fetus aborted? Yes, Why? They didn't want the fetus carried to term. They should have kept it in their pants or used a rubber. Actions have consequences People with BAR's religious beliefs are against mechanical or pharmaceutical contraception. So what did you do when your offspring came crying to you "Daddy I'm pregnant" It is far too late then. Your job as a parent is to make sure your kids know what causes babies and is responsible enough to make good choices. I know it is a strange concept but my daughter and her husband waited almost 3 years after they got married to start having babies. You can't Krause's to know right from wrong when they weren't taught. |
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On 9/25/2011 2:53 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 24 Sep 2011 19:15:14 -0400, wrote: In , says... On Sat, 24 Sep 2011 18:08:28 -0400, Wayne B wrote: On Sat, 24 Sep 2011 09:57:46 -0400, wrote: So answer his question. Just when does a fertilized egg become a human? At conception. === That's a religious view not supportable by any logic or science. It even fails the common sense test. You are entitled to your beliefs as long as you don't try to legislate them for everyone else. Wholeheartedly agree, let me restate: You are entitled to your religious beliefs, as long as you don't try to make them the law of the land. Why are beliefs based upon religous principles contrary to the public good but beliefs based upon secular humanism are encouraged as good for the public? Typically law comes from a deity thru a king to the people. Or have you forgotten about history, all of history. Spoken like a true Moslem. Sharia law, anybody? Didn't Krause call himself a secular humanist a short time ago? |
Just for the record
On 9/25/11 3:09 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 25 Sep 2011 10:56:52 -0400, wrote: On 9/25/2011 10:49 AM, X ` Man wrote: On 9/25/11 10:44 AM, wrote: On Sun, 25 Sep 2011 08:30:20 -0400, wrote: Should men have to pay child support when they wanted the fetus aborted? Yes, Why? They didn't want the fetus carried to term. They should have kept it in their pants or used a rubber. Actions have consequences People with BAR's religious beliefs are against mechanical or pharmaceutical contraception. So what did you do when your offspring came crying to you "Daddy I'm pregnant" It is far too late then. Your job as a parent is to make sure your kids know what causes babies and is responsible enough to make good choices. I know it is a strange concept but my daughter and her husband waited almost 3 years after they got married to start having babies. My daughter waited longer than that...and she was in her 30s's. Too busy with education and career. |
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On 9/25/2011 3:31 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 25 Sep 2011 15:16:38 -0400, wrote: On 9/25/2011 2:53 PM, wrote: On Sat, 24 Sep 2011 19:15:14 -0400, wrote: In , says... On Sat, 24 Sep 2011 18:08:28 -0400, Wayne B wrote: On Sat, 24 Sep 2011 09:57:46 -0400, wrote: So answer his question. Just when does a fertilized egg become a human? At conception. === That's a religious view not supportable by any logic or science. It even fails the common sense test. You are entitled to your beliefs as long as you don't try to legislate them for everyone else. Wholeheartedly agree, let me restate: You are entitled to your religious beliefs, as long as you don't try to make them the law of the land. Why are beliefs based upon religous principles contrary to the public good but beliefs based upon secular humanism are encouraged as good for the public? Typically law comes from a deity thru a king to the people. Or have you forgotten about history, all of history. Spoken like a true Moslem. Sharia law, anybody? Didn't Krause call himself a secular humanist a short time ago? No, he didn't, though it makes me wonder if you are the spoofer that did. Did you also spoof NOYB with the wrong name? Wonder all you want but Krause did use that as a handle for a period of time. |
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On Sun, 25 Sep 2011 15:09:08 -0400, wrote:
On Sun, 25 Sep 2011 10:56:52 -0400, Drifter wrote: On 9/25/2011 10:49 AM, X ` Man wrote: On 9/25/11 10:44 AM, wrote: On Sun, 25 Sep 2011 08:30:20 -0400, wrote: Should men have to pay child support when they wanted the fetus aborted? Yes, Why? They didn't want the fetus carried to term. They should have kept it in their pants or used a rubber. Actions have consequences People with BAR's religious beliefs are against mechanical or pharmaceutical contraception. So what did you do when your offspring came crying to you "Daddy I'm pregnant" It is far too late then. Your job as a parent is to make sure your kids know what causes babies and is responsible enough to make good choices. I know it is a strange concept but my daughter and her husband waited almost 3 years after they got married to start having babies. You reckon it took them that long to figure it out? |
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On 9/25/2011 2:11 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 24/09/2011 5:04 PM, BAR wrote: In , says... On 24/09/2011 7:56 AM, BAR wrote: In , says... On 9/24/2011 9:08 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In , says... On 9/24/2011 2:51 AM, Canuck57 wrote: On 23/09/2011 6:54 PM, John H wrote: When your wife asked you to feel the baby kicking, did you argue that it was only a fetus? So if at 7 months, the woman miscarries, you beat her up for murder with the bible in hand? Your tag line is stupid and annoying. And that doesn't start until 20+ weeks or so. Well, I dare say you have a lot of nerve going after John for a sig file when you are by far the very most prolific poster on the group and spend much more time and many more paragraphs promoting your own personal views on others... But then you go after those of us who pretty much keep our beliefs to ourselves... So, why don't YOU give answers to Wayne's questions? Holier than thou John won't. What's the old saying... "If I have to explain it to you, you wouldn't understand". Being a Christian Liberatarian, I can't condone pushing my religious views on anybody, particularly someone who is only really asking a "gotcha" question anyway... BTW, I noticed you all never answered his question as to weather President Obama is a liar or a hypocrite when it comes to his religion. snerk You really don't want to have a civil discussion, you are looking to further the argument. Didn't work with Tim, isn't working with John, and it probably won't work with anybody else, like I said, "if you don't know, I can't explain it to you". And really, if you don't want to know, why ask? Obama is a Muslim. Pretty obvious. He stated it to George Snuffalufagus. From a Saudi point of view, Obama has been real good. Getting ready for a Islamic fundi middle east state. Look at the leaders who have fallen, no Sharia/Islam as the basis of government. But I suspect the Muslim Brotherhood is an Obama ally. Ally? He is their best weapon... |
Just for the record
On 9/25/2011 3:09 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 25 Sep 2011 10:56:52 -0400, wrote: On 9/25/2011 10:49 AM, X ` Man wrote: On 9/25/11 10:44 AM, wrote: On Sun, 25 Sep 2011 08:30:20 -0400, wrote: Should men have to pay child support when they wanted the fetus aborted? Yes, Why? They didn't want the fetus carried to term. They should have kept it in their pants or used a rubber. Actions have consequences People with BAR's religious beliefs are against mechanical or pharmaceutical contraception. So what did you do when your offspring came crying to you "Daddy I'm pregnant" It is far too late then. Your job as a parent is to make sure your kids know what causes babies and is responsible enough to make good choices. I know it is a strange concept but my daughter and her husband waited almost 3 years after they got married to start having babies. I have three daughters between age 17 and 30, two married and still none of the three have been pregnant... I raised them not to get into a situation where "that" was all there was to do. It was not that hard but it did mean I couldn't spend my evenings on a bar stool or my weekends in front of a TV... |
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On 9/25/11 5:30 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 9/25/2011 2:11 PM, Canuck57 wrote: On 24/09/2011 5:04 PM, BAR wrote: In , says... On 24/09/2011 7:56 AM, BAR wrote: In , says... On 9/24/2011 9:08 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In , says... On 9/24/2011 2:51 AM, Canuck57 wrote: On 23/09/2011 6:54 PM, John H wrote: When your wife asked you to feel the baby kicking, did you argue that it was only a fetus? So if at 7 months, the woman miscarries, you beat her up for murder with the bible in hand? Your tag line is stupid and annoying. And that doesn't start until 20+ weeks or so. Well, I dare say you have a lot of nerve going after John for a sig file when you are by far the very most prolific poster on the group and spend much more time and many more paragraphs promoting your own personal views on others... But then you go after those of us who pretty much keep our beliefs to ourselves... So, why don't YOU give answers to Wayne's questions? Holier than thou John won't. What's the old saying... "If I have to explain it to you, you wouldn't understand". Being a Christian Liberatarian, I can't condone pushing my religious views on anybody, particularly someone who is only really asking a "gotcha" question anyway... BTW, I noticed you all never answered his question as to weather President Obama is a liar or a hypocrite when it comes to his religion. snerk You really don't want to have a civil discussion, you are looking to further the argument. Didn't work with Tim, isn't working with John, and it probably won't work with anybody else, like I said, "if you don't know, I can't explain it to you". And really, if you don't want to know, why ask? Obama is a Muslim. Pretty obvious. He stated it to George Snuffalufagus. From a Saudi point of view, Obama has been real good. Getting ready for a Islamic fundi middle east state. Look at the leaders who have fallen, no Sharia/Islam as the basis of government. But I suspect the Muslim Brotherhood is an Obama ally. Ally? He is their best weapon.. Surely there is a moron chorus somewhere for you two...maybe on youtube, eh? |
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On 9/25/2011 9:39 AM, Drifter wrote:
On 9/25/2011 6:57 AM, X ` Man wrote: On 9/24/11 12:47 PM, JustWait wrote: On 9/24/2011 12:39 PM, wrote: On Sat, 24 Sep 2011 11:13:41 -0400, wrote: In , says... On Sat, 24 Sep 2011 09:08:42 -0400, wrote: In , says... On 9/24/2011 2:51 AM, Canuck57 wrote: On 23/09/2011 6:54 PM, John H wrote: When your wife asked you to feel the baby kicking, did you argue that it was only a fetus? So if at 7 months, the woman miscarries, you beat her up for murder with the bible in hand? Your tag line is stupid and annoying. And that doesn't start until 20+ weeks or so. Well, I dare say you have a lot of nerve going after John for a sig file when you are by far the very most prolific poster on the group and spend much more time and many more paragraphs promoting your own personal views on others... But then you go after those of us who pretty much keep our beliefs to ourselves... So, why don't YOU give answers to Wayne's questions? Holier than thou John won't. There are still several unanswered questions out there. I wholeheartedly agree! BUT, when someone acts like they are absolutely SURE that a fetus is a human, then he must know when a fertilized egg becomes a human. I don't have a puppy in that fight. ;-) ... nor should the government. But they did get involved. Rowe vs Wade. It's settled law according to the Supreme Court, the govt. is involved. D'uh. What about the conservative states working overtime to outlaw abortion or to make it nearly impossible to get one? Or are you not aware of those developments, either? You have a say in Maryland Politics. Other States' politics are none of your business. Last time I checked we are still free to move about the country, unless O/bama changed that. Apples to oranges troll question, we have abortion on demand anywhere in the US.. |
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