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says... On 9/22/2011 8:50 PM, Canuck57 wrote: On 22/09/2011 5:50 PM, X ` Man wrote: On 9/22/11 7:35 PM, JustWait wrote: On 9/22/2011 6:51 PM, Drifter wrote: On 9/22/2011 6:29 PM, X ` Man wrote: On 9/22/11 6:20 PM, BAR wrote: In , says... This is one slightly right of center, politically Independent who is 100 percent *against* the death penalty. We need to find a way to deal with capital crimes in a different way. Eisboch As soon as abortions are outlawed. A fetus is not a person, despite the efforts of right-wingers to ignore science and make it so. Someone being executed is a person. A fetus is an innocent unborn baby. Someone being executed has committed a heinous crime. Are those the same executives, er, uh, I mean, scientists that told us about Global Taxing even though they know the "science" is faked? The science is not fake. But you thinking you have the smarts to tell...that's faked. Agreed, science is not fake. But there are a lot of fake people touting fake science for monetary gain or religion bull****. Much of the science is faked... Call it what you will. And much more of the science is not faked. But you choose to ignore THAT science |
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On 9/23/2011 6:05 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 9/22/11 10:45 PM, JustWait wrote: On 9/22/2011 8:50 PM, Canuck57 wrote: On 22/09/2011 5:50 PM, X ` Man wrote: On 9/22/11 7:35 PM, JustWait wrote: On 9/22/2011 6:51 PM, Drifter wrote: On 9/22/2011 6:29 PM, X ` Man wrote: On 9/22/11 6:20 PM, BAR wrote: In , says... This is one slightly right of center, politically Independent who is 100 percent *against* the death penalty. We need to find a way to deal with capital crimes in a different way. Eisboch As soon as abortions are outlawed. A fetus is not a person, despite the efforts of right-wingers to ignore science and make it so. Someone being executed is a person. A fetus is an innocent unborn baby. Someone being executed has committed a heinous crime. Are those the same executives, er, uh, I mean, scientists that told us about Global Taxing even though they know the "science" is faked? The science is not fake. But you thinking you have the smarts to tell...that's faked. Agreed, science is not fake. But there are a lot of fake people touting fake science for monetary gain or religion bull****. Much of the science is faked... Call it what you will. You are in no position through intelligence, education or experience to make such a statement. Neither are you, oh great thinker. |
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says... On 9/22/11 10:45 PM, JustWait wrote: On 9/22/2011 8:50 PM, Canuck57 wrote: On 22/09/2011 5:50 PM, X ` Man wrote: On 9/22/11 7:35 PM, JustWait wrote: On 9/22/2011 6:51 PM, Drifter wrote: On 9/22/2011 6:29 PM, X ` Man wrote: On 9/22/11 6:20 PM, BAR wrote: In , says... This is one slightly right of center, politically Independent who is 100 percent *against* the death penalty. We need to find a way to deal with capital crimes in a different way. Eisboch As soon as abortions are outlawed. A fetus is not a person, despite the efforts of right-wingers to ignore science and make it so. Someone being executed is a person. A fetus is an innocent unborn baby. Someone being executed has committed a heinous crime. Are those the same executives, er, uh, I mean, scientists that told us about Global Taxing even though they know the "science" is faked? The science is not fake. But you thinking you have the smarts to tell...that's faked. Agreed, science is not fake. But there are a lot of fake people touting fake science for monetary gain or religion bull****. Much of the science is faked... Call it what you will. You are in no position through intelligence, education or experience to make such a statement. What is your scientific background? |
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On Sep 23, 2:57*am, Canuck57 wrote:
On 22/09/2011 8:08 PM, BAR wrote: In articlexZmdnalw1dM1VObTnZ2dnUVZ_rWdn...@earthlink .com, says... On 9/22/11 7:35 PM, JustWait wrote: On 9/22/2011 6:51 PM, Drifter wrote: On 9/22/2011 6:29 PM, X ` Man wrote: On 9/22/11 6:20 PM, BAR wrote: In , says... This is one slightly right of center, politically Independent who is 100 percent *against* the death penalty. We need to find a way to deal with capital crimes in a different way. Eisboch As soon as abortions are outlawed. A fetus is not a person, despite the efforts of right-wingers to ignore science and make it so. Someone being executed is a person. A fetus is an innocent unborn baby. Someone being executed has committed a heinous crime. Are those the same executives, er, uh, I mean, scientists that told us about Global Taxing even though they know the "science" is faked? The science is not fake. But you thinking you have the smarts to tell...that's faked. If you can be convicted of murdering a fetus then it is a person. Personal opinions, usually from the fanatical religious types. Fact is you religious types don't even read the bible in proper context. * Minds too small, egos too big.... to the universe your not even ant compared to earth. Much of the bible makes all sorts of sense when taken into context. ~2000 years ago it made all sorts of literal sense, today though you need to account for 2000 years of evolution of knowledge. Here is one that might grab you. *Time is not a constant, EMC^2. *The rate of elapsed time has through empirical observation to be confirmed as not a constant. *So is 7 days to god the same as 7 days to us? *It is relative, 7 days on the surface of the sun should you be able to service it is a very long time here on earth. Or how about why you shouldn't marry your brother or sister, how do you explain DNA deterioration and problems with that idea to a ~0BC man? *Or why monogamy is good? *It is good to cut down on VD. *Woman created of man, woman is XX and man is XY. **Ya*, I somehow don't believe your religious animal of 2 centuries ago could understand sex chromosome and genome. *The bible often talks in metaphors and simplicity for more simple minds. *Still works today. Fact is mankind is still just a stupid animal, just enough smarts to be above rats and dogs, but more vicious than any other animal. *More so than Velociraptor, as many of our kind kill not for food, but religion and pleasure. And mans life on earth I bet is short. -- First rule of holes: *If you're in one, don't keep digging. So in the hole, why do we insanely want more debt?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Just wondering... did you ever go by the name.. 'Tuuk'?? He liked to say "ya" a lot. |
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On 9/23/2011 1:57 AM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 22/09/2011 8:08 PM, BAR wrote: In articlexZmdnalw1dM1VObTnZ2dnUVZ_rWdnZ2d@earthlink .com, says... On 9/22/11 7:35 PM, JustWait wrote: On 9/22/2011 6:51 PM, Drifter wrote: On 9/22/2011 6:29 PM, X ` Man wrote: On 9/22/11 6:20 PM, BAR wrote: In , says... This is one slightly right of center, politically Independent who is 100 percent *against* the death penalty. We need to find a way to deal with capital crimes in a different way. Eisboch As soon as abortions are outlawed. A fetus is not a person, despite the efforts of right-wingers to ignore science and make it so. Someone being executed is a person. A fetus is an innocent unborn baby. Someone being executed has committed a heinous crime. Are those the same executives, er, uh, I mean, scientists that told us about Global Taxing even though they know the "science" is faked? The science is not fake. But you thinking you have the smarts to tell...that's faked. If you can be convicted of murdering a fetus then it is a person. Personal opinions, usually from the fanatical religious types. Fact is you religious types don't even read the bible in proper context. Minds too small, egos too big.... to the universe your not even ant compared to earth. Much of the bible makes all sorts of sense when taken into context. ~2000 years ago it made all sorts of literal sense, today though you need to account for 2000 years of evolution of knowledge. Here is one that might grab you. Time is not a constant, EMC^2. The rate of elapsed time has through empirical observation to be confirmed as not a constant. So is 7 days to god the same as 7 days to us? It is relative, 7 days on the surface of the sun should you be able to service it is a very long time here on earth. Or how about why you shouldn't marry your brother or sister, how do you explain DNA deterioration and problems with that idea to a ~0BC man? Or why monogamy is good? It is good to cut down on VD. Woman created of man, woman is XX and man is XY. Ya, I somehow don't believe your religious animal of 2 centuries ago could understand sex chromosome and genome. The bible often talks in metaphors and simplicity for more simple minds. Still works today. Fact is mankind is still just a stupid animal, just enough smarts to be above rats and dogs, but more vicious than any other animal. More so than Velociraptor, as many of our kind kill not for food, but religion and pleasure. And mans life on earth I bet is short. Please confine your quackery to politics and finance. ;-) |
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On 9/23/2011 8:06 AM, BAR wrote:
In , says... On 9/22/11 10:08 PM, BAR wrote: In articlexZmdnalw1dM1VObTnZ2dnUVZ_rWdnZ2d@earthlink .com, says... On 9/22/11 7:35 PM, JustWait wrote: On 9/22/2011 6:51 PM, Drifter wrote: On 9/22/2011 6:29 PM, X ` Man wrote: On 9/22/11 6:20 PM, BAR wrote: In , says... This is one slightly right of center, politically Independent who is 100 percent *against* the death penalty. We need to find a way to deal with capital crimes in a different way. Eisboch As soon as abortions are outlawed. A fetus is not a person, despite the efforts of right-wingers to ignore science and make it so. Someone being executed is a person. A fetus is an innocent unborn baby. Someone being executed has committed a heinous crime. Are those the same executives, er, uh, I mean, scientists that told us about Global Taxing even though they know the "science" is faked? The science is not fake. But you thinking you have the smarts to tell...that's faked. If you can be convicted of murdering a fetus then it is a person. snerk Those new laws are nothing more than an extension of religious claptrap. If a woman is carrying a fetus and she is murdered resulting in the death of the fetus, her killer shall only be charged for killing one person? Not absolutely correct. |
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On 9/23/2011 9:00 AM, North Star wrote:
Fact is you religious types don't even read the bible in proper context. Minds too small, egos too big.... to the universe your not even ant compared to earth. Much of the bible makes all sorts of sense when taken into context. ~2000 years ago it made all sorts of literal sense, today though you need to account for 2000 years of evolution of knowledge. Here is one that might grab you. Time is not a constant, EMC^2. The rate of elapsed time has through empirical observation to be confirmed as not a constant. So is 7 days to god the same as 7 days to us? It is relative, 7 days on the surface of the sun should you be able to service it is a very long time here on earth. Or how about why you shouldn't marry your brother or sister, how do you explain DNA deterioration and problems with that idea to a ~0BC man? Or why monogamy is good? It is good to cut down on VD. Woman created of man, woman is XX and man is XY.*Ya*, I somehow don't believe your you guys up there really *******ize the queen's English, don't ya? |
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On 9/23/2011 8:53 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In , says... On 9/22/2011 8:50 PM, Canuck57 wrote: On 22/09/2011 5:50 PM, X ` Man wrote: On 9/22/11 7:35 PM, JustWait wrote: On 9/22/2011 6:51 PM, Drifter wrote: On 9/22/2011 6:29 PM, X ` Man wrote: On 9/22/11 6:20 PM, BAR wrote: In , says... This is one slightly right of center, politically Independent who is 100 percent *against* the death penalty. We need to find a way to deal with capital crimes in a different way. Eisboch As soon as abortions are outlawed. A fetus is not a person, despite the efforts of right-wingers to ignore science and make it so. Someone being executed is a person. A fetus is an innocent unborn baby. Someone being executed has committed a heinous crime. Are those the same executives, er, uh, I mean, scientists that told us about Global Taxing even though they know the "science" is faked? The science is not fake. But you thinking you have the smarts to tell...that's faked. Agreed, science is not fake. But there are a lot of fake people touting fake science for monetary gain or religion bull****. Much of the science is faked... Call it what you will. And much more of the science is not faked. But you choose to ignore THAT science Nope, not ignoring anything.. Just not looking at it through the same glasses as the ones here who take Al Gore at his word... |
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On 9/23/2011 8:53 AM, Drifter wrote:
On 9/23/2011 6:05 AM, X ` Man wrote: On 9/22/11 10:45 PM, JustWait wrote: On 9/22/2011 8:50 PM, Canuck57 wrote: On 22/09/2011 5:50 PM, X ` Man wrote: On 9/22/11 7:35 PM, JustWait wrote: On 9/22/2011 6:51 PM, Drifter wrote: On 9/22/2011 6:29 PM, X ` Man wrote: On 9/22/11 6:20 PM, BAR wrote: In , says... This is one slightly right of center, politically Independent who is 100 percent *against* the death penalty. We need to find a way to deal with capital crimes in a different way. Eisboch As soon as abortions are outlawed. A fetus is not a person, despite the efforts of right-wingers to ignore science and make it so. Someone being executed is a person. A fetus is an innocent unborn baby. Someone being executed has committed a heinous crime. Are those the same executives, er, uh, I mean, scientists that told us about Global Taxing even though they know the "science" is faked? The science is not fake. But you thinking you have the smarts to tell...that's faked. Agreed, science is not fake. But there are a lot of fake people touting fake science for monetary gain or religion bull****. Much of the science is faked... Call it what you will. You are in no position through intelligence, education or experience to make such a statement. Neither are you, oh great thinker. He couldn't lick my shorts... much less think for himself.. |
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On 9/23/2011 8:54 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In , says... On 9/22/11 10:45 PM, JustWait wrote: On 9/22/2011 8:50 PM, Canuck57 wrote: On 22/09/2011 5:50 PM, X ` Man wrote: On 9/22/11 7:35 PM, JustWait wrote: On 9/22/2011 6:51 PM, Drifter wrote: On 9/22/2011 6:29 PM, X ` Man wrote: On 9/22/11 6:20 PM, BAR wrote: In , says... This is one slightly right of center, politically Independent who is 100 percent *against* the death penalty. We need to find a way to deal with capital crimes in a different way. Eisboch As soon as abortions are outlawed. A fetus is not a person, despite the efforts of right-wingers to ignore science and make it so. Someone being executed is a person. A fetus is an innocent unborn baby. Someone being executed has committed a heinous crime. Are those the same executives, er, uh, I mean, scientists that told us about Global Taxing even though they know the "science" is faked? The science is not fake. But you thinking you have the smarts to tell...that's faked. Agreed, science is not fake. But there are a lot of fake people touting fake science for monetary gain or religion bull****. Much of the science is faked... Call it what you will. You are in no position through intelligence, education or experience to make such a statement. What is your scientific background? He is the lick spittle of the DNC... |
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On Thu, 22 Sep 2011 20:19:57 -0400, Honey Badger wrote:
X ` Man wrote: On 9/22/11 6:20 PM, BAR wrote: In , says... This is one slightly right of center, politically Independent who is 100 percent *against* the death penalty. We need to find a way to deal with capital crimes in a different way. Eisboch As soon as abortions are outlawed. A fetus is not a person, despite the efforts of right-wingers to ignore science and make it so. Someone being executed is a person. The fetus has a better shot at being an upstanding member of society. -HB Can you imagine being Harry's wife, forced to listen to that tripe after asking him to feel the baby kicking? "Honey, that is not a baby, despite what right-wingers may have told you. That is nothing more than a fetus, just like those in pregnant dogs and cats. It could be put to death right now with no loss to anyone." |
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On 23/09/2011 6:53 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In , says... On 9/22/2011 8:50 PM, Canuck57 wrote: On 22/09/2011 5:50 PM, X ` Man wrote: On 9/22/11 7:35 PM, JustWait wrote: On 9/22/2011 6:51 PM, Drifter wrote: On 9/22/2011 6:29 PM, X ` Man wrote: On 9/22/11 6:20 PM, BAR wrote: In , says... This is one slightly right of center, politically Independent who is 100 percent *against* the death penalty. We need to find a way to deal with capital crimes in a different way. Eisboch As soon as abortions are outlawed. A fetus is not a person, despite the efforts of right-wingers to ignore science and make it so. Someone being executed is a person. A fetus is an innocent unborn baby. Someone being executed has committed a heinous crime. Are those the same executives, er, uh, I mean, scientists that told us about Global Taxing even though they know the "science" is faked? The science is not fake. But you thinking you have the smarts to tell...that's faked. Agreed, science is not fake. But there are a lot of fake people touting fake science for monetary gain or religion bull****. Much of the science is faked... Call it what you will. And much more of the science is not faked. But you choose to ignore THAT science People like harryk ignore real science because they are too emotionally driven. Logic and rationality don't mean much to the fleabaggers. -- First rule of holes: If you're in one, don't keep digging. So in the hole, why do we insanely want more debt? |
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On 23/09/2011 7:00 AM, North Star wrote:
On Sep 23, 2:57 am, wrote: On 22/09/2011 8:08 PM, BAR wrote: In articlexZmdnalw1dM1VObTnZ2dnUVZ_rWdn...@earthlink .com, says... On 9/22/11 7:35 PM, JustWait wrote: On 9/22/2011 6:51 PM, Drifter wrote: On 9/22/2011 6:29 PM, X ` Man wrote: On 9/22/11 6:20 PM, BAR wrote: In , says... This is one slightly right of center, politically Independent who is 100 percent *against* the death penalty. We need to find a way to deal with capital crimes in a different way. Eisboch As soon as abortions are outlawed. A fetus is not a person, despite the efforts of right-wingers to ignore science and make it so. Someone being executed is a person. A fetus is an innocent unborn baby. Someone being executed has committed a heinous crime. Are those the same executives, er, uh, I mean, scientists that told us about Global Taxing even though they know the "science" is faked? The science is not fake. But you thinking you have the smarts to tell...that's faked. If you can be convicted of murdering a fetus then it is a person. Personal opinions, usually from the fanatical religious types. Fact is you religious types don't even read the bible in proper context. Minds too small, egos too big.... to the universe your not even ant compared to earth. Much of the bible makes all sorts of sense when taken into context. ~2000 years ago it made all sorts of literal sense, today though you need to account for 2000 years of evolution of knowledge. Here is one that might grab you. Time is not a constant, EMC^2. The rate of elapsed time has through empirical observation to be confirmed as not a constant. So is 7 days to god the same as 7 days to us? It is relative, 7 days on the surface of the sun should you be able to service it is a very long time here on earth. Or how about why you shouldn't marry your brother or sister, how do you explain DNA deterioration and problems with that idea to a ~0BC man? Or why monogamy is good? It is good to cut down on VD. Woman created of man, woman is XX and man is XY. *Ya*, I somehow don't believe your religious animal of 2 centuries ago could understand sex chromosome and genome. The bible often talks in metaphors and simplicity for more simple minds. Still works today. Fact is mankind is still just a stupid animal, just enough smarts to be above rats and dogs, but more vicious than any other animal. More so than Velociraptor, as many of our kind kill not for food, but religion and pleasure. And mans life on earth I bet is short. -- First rule of holes: If you're in one, don't keep digging. So in the hole, why do we insanely want more debt?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Just wondering... did you ever go by the name.. 'Tuuk'?? He liked to say "ya" a lot. Nope. -- First rule of holes: If you're in one, don't keep digging. So in the hole, why do we insanely want more debt? |
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says... On 23/09/2011 6:53 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In , says... On 9/22/2011 8:50 PM, Canuck57 wrote: On 22/09/2011 5:50 PM, X ` Man wrote: On 9/22/11 7:35 PM, JustWait wrote: On 9/22/2011 6:51 PM, Drifter wrote: On 9/22/2011 6:29 PM, X ` Man wrote: On 9/22/11 6:20 PM, BAR wrote: In , says... This is one slightly right of center, politically Independent who is 100 percent *against* the death penalty. We need to find a way to deal with capital crimes in a different way. Eisboch As soon as abortions are outlawed. A fetus is not a person, despite the efforts of right-wingers to ignore science and make it so. Someone being executed is a person. A fetus is an innocent unborn baby. Someone being executed has committed a heinous crime. Are those the same executives, er, uh, I mean, scientists that told us about Global Taxing even though they know the "science" is faked? The science is not fake. But you thinking you have the smarts to tell...that's faked. Agreed, science is not fake. But there are a lot of fake people touting fake science for monetary gain or religion bull****. Much of the science is faked... Call it what you will. And much more of the science is not faked. But you choose to ignore THAT science People like harryk ignore real science because they are too emotionally driven. Logic and rationality don't mean much to the fleabaggers. Same thing can be said of the far right. They choose which science to believe, and which science not to believe. That in and of itself is unscientific. Now, there needs to be more study to find out exactly WHY global warming is occurring, but anybody that can read data, say a sixth grader or higher, can conclude that it is indeed happening. |
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On 9/23/2011 12:31 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
but anybody that can read data, say a sixth grader or higher, can conclude that it is indeed happening. Ah, you are Loogy Picker, the engineer from Georgia. |
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On 9/23/2011 1:38 PM, Jimmy wrote:
On 9/23/2011 12:31 PM, iBoaterer wrote: but anybody that can read data, say a sixth grader or higher, can conclude that it is indeed happening. Ah, you are Loogy Picker, the engineer from Georgia. And he is wrong. Anybody that has common sense can see that it's a cycle... a natural cycle... |
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On 23/09/2011 10:31 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In , says... On 23/09/2011 6:53 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In , says... On 9/22/2011 8:50 PM, Canuck57 wrote: On 22/09/2011 5:50 PM, X ` Man wrote: On 9/22/11 7:35 PM, JustWait wrote: On 9/22/2011 6:51 PM, Drifter wrote: On 9/22/2011 6:29 PM, X ` Man wrote: On 9/22/11 6:20 PM, BAR wrote: In , says... This is one slightly right of center, politically Independent who is 100 percent *against* the death penalty. We need to find a way to deal with capital crimes in a different way. Eisboch As soon as abortions are outlawed. A fetus is not a person, despite the efforts of right-wingers to ignore science and make it so. Someone being executed is a person. A fetus is an innocent unborn baby. Someone being executed has committed a heinous crime. Are those the same executives, er, uh, I mean, scientists that told us about Global Taxing even though they know the "science" is faked? The science is not fake. But you thinking you have the smarts to tell...that's faked. Agreed, science is not fake. But there are a lot of fake people touting fake science for monetary gain or religion bull****. Much of the science is faked... Call it what you will. And much more of the science is not faked. But you choose to ignore THAT science People like harryk ignore real science because they are too emotionally driven. Logic and rationality don't mean much to the fleabaggers. Same thing can be said of the far right. They choose which science to believe, and which science not to believe. That in and of itself is unscientific. Now, there needs to be more study to find out exactly WHY global warming is occurring, but anybody that can read data, say a sixth grader or higher, can conclude that it is indeed happening. If you mean the religious right, I agree. Not everyone on the right is a religious fanatical nut case. In fact the left too has quite the contingent of religious nut cases. Religious fanatics seen to cover the spectrum of politics. It is why separation of church and state is important. Every country run by religion is a real mess. -- First rule of holes: If you're in one, don't keep digging. So in the hole, why do we insanely want more debt? |
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On Fri, 23 Sep 2011 10:06:45 -0400, John H
wrote: Can you imagine being Harry's wife, forced to listen to that tripe after asking him to feel the baby kicking? "Honey, that is not a baby, despite what right-wingers may have told you. That is nothing more than a fetus, just like those in pregnant dogs and cats. It could be put to death right now with no loss to anyone." ===== John, I know you are very sincere in your religious beliefs and I have no intention of mocking them. Let me ask you this however: When does a fertilized egg become a fetus? |
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On 23/09/2011 3:54 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 22 Sep 2011 18:38:16 -0600, wrote: On 22/09/2011 2:23 PM, wrote: On Wed, 21 Sep 2011 21:44:08 -0400, wrote: On 9/21/2011 9:12 PM, wrote: On Wed, 21 Sep 2011 19:10:06 -0400, wrote: This is one slightly right of center, politically Independent who is 100 percent *against* the death penalty. We need to find a way to deal with capital crimes in a different way. Eisboch Send the all the death row inmates to Europe and see how long it takes them to reinstate hanging,firing squads and the guillotine How about if "we" find an *effective* way to deal with capital crimes in a different way *THEN* Get rid of the death penalty. We haven't found an effective way to deal with petty crimes, yet. Turning criminals loose from the justice system should be a criminal offense.... China has. Caning, a time tested method of adult spanking. They say it is highly effective in cost and in teaching of respect. And each time they see you, you get more than before... they say 32 can cripple for life. Rules are simple, standard graded bamboo canes are used. If the administrator of the punishment breaks it cleanly over you ass, the cane has been successfully administered. If it doesn't break, you get another one until it does. You might only get 3 canes for defacing a wall, 12 canes for a rape but if you do it again, you might get 24 or more. They say it instills fear to a point where they cease their violence and vandalism. Where do you come up with this crazy ****? Where do the "rules" come from? "They say it instills fear..." who the hell is they? "..they cease their violence and vandalism" and, of course, you have a citation to back this up? Where do you come up with this crazy ****? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9S3CEgNl74 Something similar with the principal and a strap back in the 60's to a bully....he ceased. Toronto Canada. What you get for crime: http://www.corpun.com/sgjur2.htm It is effective and efficient, that is why they use it. -- First rule of holes: If you're in one, don't keep digging. So in the hole, why do we insanely want more debt? |
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On Fri, 23 Sep 2011 18:13:59 -0400, Wayne B wrote:
On Fri, 23 Sep 2011 10:06:45 -0400, John H wrote: Can you imagine being Harry's wife, forced to listen to that tripe after asking him to feel the baby kicking? "Honey, that is not a baby, despite what right-wingers may have told you. That is nothing more than a fetus, just like those in pregnant dogs and cats. It could be put to death right now with no loss to anyone." ===== John, I know you are very sincere in your religious beliefs and I have no intention of mocking them. Let me ask you this however: When does a fertilized egg become a fetus? Wayne, you know nothing of the sincerity of my religious beliefs. Other than my having stated I was Roman Catholic, you know nothing of my beliefs. One person here said something about a 16 week cutoff for abortions. Where that came from I don't know. Perhaps you could ask. What the hell difference does my idea about when a fertilized egg becomes a fetus have to do with anything? When your wife asked you to feel the baby kicking, did you argue that it was only a fetus? |
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On Fri, 23 Sep 2011 20:54:59 -0400, John H
wrote: On Fri, 23 Sep 2011 18:13:59 -0400, Wayne B wrote: On Fri, 23 Sep 2011 10:06:45 -0400, John H wrote: Can you imagine being Harry's wife, forced to listen to that tripe after asking him to feel the baby kicking? "Honey, that is not a baby, despite what right-wingers may have told you. That is nothing more than a fetus, just like those in pregnant dogs and cats. It could be put to death right now with no loss to anyone." ===== John, I know you are very sincere in your religious beliefs and I have no intention of mocking them. Let me ask you this however: When does a fertilized egg become a fetus? Wayne, you know nothing of the sincerity of my religious beliefs. Other than my having stated I was Roman Catholic, you know nothing of my beliefs. One person here said something about a 16 week cutoff for abortions. Where that came from I don't know. Perhaps you could ask. What the hell difference does my idea about when a fertilized egg becomes a fetus have to do with anything? When your wife asked you to feel the baby kicking, did you argue that it was only a fetus? ======== You can deny sincerity if you want but I don't believe it. It is intuitively obvious to anyone who has been fortunate enough to experience it, that a baby kicking in the womb is more than just a collection of sub-dividing cells. That is not the issue however. The question of when a fertilized egg becomes a viable life is actually very important. It is important to me because, like you, I am also opposed to aborting human life. But I am also opposed to bringing unwanted children into the world, and opposed to telling a woman that she must bring a child into the world because of an accident. It is clear to me and many others that a fertilized egg is not an actual human life, even though the potential is there. To argue otherwise is an act of religious faith not based on logic. Anyone who believes that life begins at conception is entitled to their faith as long as they don't try to impose their belief on others as you seem intent on doing. If you do otherwise, then you step on my beliefs and that of many others. PS, I find your tag line to be offensive and very unfortunate. |
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On 23/09/2011 6:54 PM, John H wrote:
When your wife asked you to feel the baby kicking, did you argue that it was only a fetus? So if at 7 months, the woman miscarries, you beat her up for murder with the bible in hand? Your tag line is stupid and annoying. And that doesn't start until 20+ weeks or so. -- First rule of holes: If you're in one, don't keep digging. So in the hole, why do we insanely want more debt? |
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On 9/24/2011 2:51 AM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 23/09/2011 6:54 PM, John H wrote: When your wife asked you to feel the baby kicking, did you argue that it was only a fetus? So if at 7 months, the woman miscarries, you beat her up for murder with the bible in hand? Your tag line is stupid and annoying. And that doesn't start until 20+ weeks or so. Well, I dare say you have a lot of nerve going after John for a sig file when you are by far the very most prolific poster on the group and spend much more time and many more paragraphs promoting your own personal views on others... But then you go after those of us who pretty much keep our beliefs to ourselves... |
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On Fri, 23 Sep 2011 21:32:11 -0400, Wayne B wrote:
On Fri, 23 Sep 2011 20:54:59 -0400, John H wrote: On Fri, 23 Sep 2011 18:13:59 -0400, Wayne B wrote: On Fri, 23 Sep 2011 10:06:45 -0400, John H wrote: Can you imagine being Harry's wife, forced to listen to that tripe after asking him to feel the baby kicking? "Honey, that is not a baby, despite what right-wingers may have told you. That is nothing more than a fetus, just like those in pregnant dogs and cats. It could be put to death right now with no loss to anyone." ===== John, I know you are very sincere in your religious beliefs and I have no intention of mocking them. Let me ask you this however: When does a fertilized egg become a fetus? Wayne, you know nothing of the sincerity of my religious beliefs. Other than my having stated I was Roman Catholic, you know nothing of my beliefs. One person here said something about a 16 week cutoff for abortions. Where that came from I don't know. Perhaps you could ask. What the hell difference does my idea about when a fertilized egg becomes a fetus have to do with anything? When your wife asked you to feel the baby kicking, did you argue that it was only a fetus? ======== You can deny sincerity if you want but I don't believe it. I neither denied nor confirmed anything. As I stated - you've no idea of how sincere I am in any religious beliefs. It is intuitively obvious to anyone who has been fortunate enough to experience it, that a baby kicking in the womb is more than just a collection of sub-dividing cells. That is not the issue however. Yes, that is the issue. There are many who believe an abortion should be acceptable up until the baby is breathing outside the womb. I'm not one of them. The question of when a fertilized egg becomes a viable life is actually very important. Amen. It is important to me because, like you, I am also opposed to aborting human life. But I am also opposed to bringing unwanted children into the world, and opposed to telling a woman that she must bring a child into the world because of an accident. The woman can take care of the problem the next day...or surely within a week of the accident, rape, or what have you. I've no problem with that. It is clear to me and many others that a fertilized egg is not an actual human life, even though the potential is there. Ditto. To argueotherwise is an act of religious faith not based on logic. Anyone who believes that life begins at conception is entitled to their faith as long as they don't try to impose their belief on others as you seem intent on doing. If you do otherwise, then you step on my beliefs and that of many others. PS, I find your tag line to be offensive and very unfortunate. I find it offensive also. I find the killing of a life which could exist outside the womb much more offensive. Has nothing to do with my faith. |
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On Sat, 24 Sep 2011 00:51:47 -0600, Canuck57 wrote:
On 23/09/2011 6:54 PM, John H wrote: When your wife asked you to feel the baby kicking, did you argue that it was only a fetus? So if at 7 months, the woman miscarries, you beat her up for murder with the bible in hand? Natural miscarriages occur. My daughter went through one a few months back. Your tag line is stupid and annoying. And that doesn't start until 20+ weeks or so. Saying a fetus isn't a baby, with no regard to viability, is also annoying. |
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On 9/24/2011 9:08 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In , says... On 9/24/2011 2:51 AM, Canuck57 wrote: On 23/09/2011 6:54 PM, John H wrote: When your wife asked you to feel the baby kicking, did you argue that it was only a fetus? So if at 7 months, the woman miscarries, you beat her up for murder with the bible in hand? Your tag line is stupid and annoying. And that doesn't start until 20+ weeks or so. Well, I dare say you have a lot of nerve going after John for a sig file when you are by far the very most prolific poster on the group and spend much more time and many more paragraphs promoting your own personal views on others... But then you go after those of us who pretty much keep our beliefs to ourselves... So, why don't YOU give answers to Wayne's questions? Holier than thou John won't. What's the old saying... "If I have to explain it to you, you wouldn't understand". Being a Christian Liberatarian, I can't condone pushing my religious views on anybody, particularly someone who is only really asking a "gotcha" question anyway... BTW, I noticed you all never answered his question as to weather President Obama is a liar or a hypocrite when it comes to his religion. snerk You really don't want to have a civil discussion, you are looking to further the argument. Didn't work with Tim, isn't working with John, and it probably won't work with anybody else, like I said, "if you don't know, I can't explain it to you". And really, if you don't want to know, why ask? |
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says... On 9/24/2011 9:08 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In , says... On 9/24/2011 2:51 AM, Canuck57 wrote: On 23/09/2011 6:54 PM, John H wrote: When your wife asked you to feel the baby kicking, did you argue that it was only a fetus? So if at 7 months, the woman miscarries, you beat her up for murder with the bible in hand? Your tag line is stupid and annoying. And that doesn't start until 20+ weeks or so. Well, I dare say you have a lot of nerve going after John for a sig file when you are by far the very most prolific poster on the group and spend much more time and many more paragraphs promoting your own personal views on others... But then you go after those of us who pretty much keep our beliefs to ourselves... So, why don't YOU give answers to Wayne's questions? Holier than thou John won't. What's the old saying... "If I have to explain it to you, you wouldn't understand". Being a Christian Liberatarian, I can't condone pushing my religious views on anybody, particularly someone who is only really asking a "gotcha" question anyway... BTW, I noticed you all never answered his question as to weather President Obama is a liar or a hypocrite when it comes to his religion. snerk You really don't want to have a civil discussion, you are looking to further the argument. Didn't work with Tim, isn't working with John, and it probably won't work with anybody else, like I said, "if you don't know, I can't explain it to you". And really, if you don't want to know, why ask? Obama is a Muslim. |
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says... In article , says... On Sat, 24 Sep 2011 00:51:47 -0600, Canuck57 wrote: On 23/09/2011 6:54 PM, John H wrote: When your wife asked you to feel the baby kicking, did you argue that it was only a fetus? So if at 7 months, the woman miscarries, you beat her up for murder with the bible in hand? Natural miscarriages occur. My daughter went through one a few months back. Your tag line is stupid and annoying. And that doesn't start until 20+ weeks or so. Saying a fetus isn't a baby, with no regard to viability, is also annoying. So answer his question. Just when does a fertilized egg become a human? At conception. When has a female human ever given birth to anything other than a human. |
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On 9/24/2011 2:51 AM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 23/09/2011 6:54 PM, John H wrote: When your wife asked you to feel the baby kicking, did you argue that it was only a fetus? So if at 7 months, the woman miscarries, you beat her up for murder with the bible in hand? Your tag line is stupid and annoying. And that doesn't start until 20+ weeks or so. John's tag line is reaction to Krause's insistence that a fetus has no right to come to term and be born. Both have the right to their opinions. Truth is neither can prove their positions. Congress in their infinite wisdom wrote a law that affirms John's opinion. http://www.nndb.com/people/738/000023669/ So maybe we can drop this currently unresolvable issue and turn our attention to our meddling Congress, who has apparently arbitrarily ruled on the unknown. |
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On 9/24/2011 9:08 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In , says... On 9/24/2011 2:51 AM, Canuck57 wrote: On 23/09/2011 6:54 PM, John H wrote: When your wife asked you to feel the baby kicking, did you argue that it was only a fetus? So if at 7 months, the woman miscarries, you beat her up for murder with the bible in hand? Your tag line is stupid and annoying. And that doesn't start until 20+ weeks or so. Well, I dare say you have a lot of nerve going after John for a sig file when you are by far the very most prolific poster on the group and spend much more time and many more paragraphs promoting your own personal views on others... But then you go after those of us who pretty much keep our beliefs to ourselves... So, why don't YOU give answers to Wayne's questions? Holier than thou John won't. He can't. Wayne knows it. John knows it. Do you know it? |
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says... On 9/24/2011 9:08 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In , says... On 9/24/2011 2:51 AM, Canuck57 wrote: On 23/09/2011 6:54 PM, John H wrote: When your wife asked you to feel the baby kicking, did you argue that it was only a fetus? So if at 7 months, the woman miscarries, you beat her up for murder with the bible in hand? Your tag line is stupid and annoying. And that doesn't start until 20+ weeks or so. Well, I dare say you have a lot of nerve going after John for a sig file when you are by far the very most prolific poster on the group and spend much more time and many more paragraphs promoting your own personal views on others... But then you go after those of us who pretty much keep our beliefs to ourselves... So, why don't YOU give answers to Wayne's questions? Holier than thou John won't. He can't. Wayne knows it. John knows it. Do you know it? No, I don't, that's why I'd like John to answer the question. He seems quite adamant that a fetus is a human being, so he must know the answer! |
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