Just for the record
 

On 26/09/2011 5:07 PM, John H wrote:
On Mon, 26 Sep 2011 11:49:50 -0600, wrote:

On 26/09/2011 10:42 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In ,
says...

On 9/26/2011 11:41 AM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 26/09/2011 8:24 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 9/26/2011 10:15 AM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 25/09/2011 8:26 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 9/25/2011 9:49 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 25/09/2011 3:41 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 9/25/2011 11:44 AM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 24/09/2011 5:11 PM, BAR wrote:
In ,
says...

On Sat, 24 Sep 2011 18:31:39 -0400, JustWait
wrote:

On 9/24/2011 6:08 PM, Wayne B wrote:
On Sat, 24 Sep 2011 09:57:46 -0400, wrote:

So answer his question. Just when does a fertilized egg
become a
human?

At conception.

===

That's a religious view not supportable by any logic or
science. It
even fails the common sense test. You are entitled to your
beliefs
as long as you don't try to legislate them for everyone else.


What do you care? We have abortion on demand now, what more do
you
want?
You have taken the parents out of the equation, which "even fails
the
common sense test". Like I said before, compromise for abortion
advocates, and most other zealots is just a means to an end.. Now
that
you have it 100% your way you want it to be considered settled
law,
and
nobody else can have an opinion on it.. I get it.

It actually was "settled law" until the religious zealots, with
whom
you apparently identify, tried to make their religious opinion a
secular law.

There is no such thing as "settled law."

It is sad that parents had to be "taken out of the equation," but
there are parents that, due to religious convictions, will allow
children to starve, go without medical treatment, and other
(secularly) ridiculous actions. Even now, there are parents that
feel
that NOT vaccinating their children (boys AND girls) against HPV,
which causes cervical cancer, will keep then chaste and pure. They
are
even taking their position to court to defend their right as
parents
to allow their children to get cervical cancer. But that is sane,
right?

Parents have been taken out of the equation because the liberals
beliefs
are contrary to those of conservatives and the liberals cannot
stand to
let others live their own lives.

Actually, when it comes to abortion and religion, drop the liberal
and
conservative thing. Bot sides have their fanatics that feel the
right to
tell others what to do.

Libertarian versus statism might have better alignment. Comes
down to
how much do you believe others have the rights to make their own
choices?

What more do they want? They already have abortion on demand as a
"compromise", what is next, will they get to choose who must have an
abortion??

So? What is wrong with the choice being exclusively between the woman
and the doctor?

It isn't your womb after all.

How about government dictating circumcision? (or banning it?)

Or maybe one step further, claim your genetics are not good enough and
you must be sterilized. (an every genome has defects, that is why we
are
not the same).

My point is, why are we even talking about it.. How much more
"compromise" do you want, you have abortion on demand now, paid for and
delivered by organizations who have only one solution in their arsenal,
and make a ton of money on it, with no right for any other information
or opinion to the young girl that walks in....? if there is any more
"compromise"... we will be at the point of: "government dictating
circumcision (or banning it?) Or claiming your genetics are not good
enough and you must be sterilized." So, I ask you again, how much more
"compromise" do you want?

No more is really needed, provided the women have access without the
harassment and bully mentality. Their choice.

Yeah, as long as they only get that one point of view... What if it was
the other side that was funded by the Govt and wouldn't allow any talk
of abortion in their clinics? That is to say, what would you think if
Planned Parenthood actually gave information beneficial to a woman who
wanted to say be a parent, and couldn't talk about abortion at all.
Would you think of that as "compromise" too?


Don't get me wrong, I am nether pro nor con in the decision, just
believe it is their right to their body. Government (nor religion)
shouldn't be used to dictate having babies.

Yeah, but if you support Planned Parenthood, you absolutely do not
support a womans right to make an "informed" decision about parenthood.
planned Parenthood is an abortion mill, they have no interest in
"informed" clients, only providing abortions...


It isn't 10,000 BC with a dwindling population of only 4 million world
wide. As of 1825 give or take the population was a billion. Today 7
billion....it can't continue this way as one way or another there are
going to be limits. If anything, in large areas of the world we should
be looking at controls in birth.

So, you want women to make decisions based on that???


Our jobs should be to our family, not to the state to provided breeding
vessels and soldiers.

Abortions don't create families...

Abortions don't create starving illiterate homeless children turning to
crime either.



So, all those aborted kids were gonna' come up bad? I can see this is
futile. Like a Progressive, you are making it a binary issue and you
decide which is 0 and which is 1...

A good number of them would, because whether we like it or not, a good
number of them would come from unwed, unsupported, inner city welfare
recipients.

I am sure if the anti-abortion types raised the money and paid these
women to have the children. Oh wait, the idea is for someone else to
pay for it. Ya, right.

As I said, the anti-abortion movement is just another form of bully
mentality of idle fanatical minds. Last thing the world needs is
another starving, neglected, welfare sucking, poorly raised delinquent.

Look at Africa, billion new babies or so in the next 10 or 12 years to
add to the starvation and poverty they already have. Brilliant. /sarcasm

Africa's problems are not the result of anti-abortion types. Sometimes you come across as though
your head is where the sun don't shine.

Well, where does the anti-abortion and anti-birth control crowd end?

If you do it by the book (Muslim or Catholic) your not supposed to use
birth control of any method. Have to out populate the other when war
doesn't work.

This is about religious ignorance and goes well beyond a simple domestic
US clinical abortion. It does get into the bigger picture of population
sustainability and th quality of which children are raised.

Having kids at any cost isn't the answer. It might have been 10,000 or
even 2000 years ago, but it is no longer true today.

--
Eat the rich, screw the companies and wonder why there are no jobs.
-- Obama and the lefty fleabagger attitude

Just for the record
 

On 26/09/2011 5:14 PM, JustWait wrote:

Yeah, so lets kill each and every baby we can to make sure we don't get
a bad one... You guys kill me, I just never thought of you as a
progressive, forcing your ideals on women... Cause there is only one
voice that comes from Planned Abortionhood...

Answer this, does government have the rights to tell a woman what to do
with her womb?

Simple question. Because if so, it also implies they have the right to
tell you how to use your pecker.

--
Eat the rich, screw the companies and wonder why there are no jobs.
-- Obama and the lefty fleabagger attitude

Just for the record
 

On 26/09/2011 5:16 PM, JustWait wrote:

Then why not let the doctors or Planned Abortionhood types discuss
alternatives to Abortion, can't stand up to the scrutiny???

Depends how it it done?

Is it as simple as here are your options: (order them how you want)

- abortion now
- have birth and keep the child
- have birth and place for adoption

Of above, presenting the options in a non-bully way without bias, this
is great.

But often it is laced with a guilt trip bullying. "Hey baby killing
bitch, why don't you be a breeding vessel and give it up for adoption
because my religion says so."

Of which I completely disagree. Just another form of verbal bullying.
--
Eat the rich, screw the companies and wonder why there are no jobs.
-- Obama and the lefty fleabagger attitude

Just for the record
 

On 9/26/2011 7:34 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 26/09/2011 5:07 PM, John H wrote:
On Mon, 26 Sep 2011 11:49:50 -0600, wrote:

On 26/09/2011 10:42 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In ,
says...

On 9/26/2011 11:41 AM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 26/09/2011 8:24 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 9/26/2011 10:15 AM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 25/09/2011 8:26 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 9/25/2011 9:49 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 25/09/2011 3:41 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 9/25/2011 11:44 AM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 24/09/2011 5:11 PM, BAR wrote:
In ,
says...

On Sat, 24 Sep 2011 18:31:39 -0400, JustWait
wrote:

On 9/24/2011 6:08 PM, Wayne B wrote:
On Sat, 24 Sep 2011 09:57:46 -0400,
wrote:

So answer his question. Just when does a fertilized egg
become a
human?

At conception.

===

That's a religious view not supportable by any logic or
science. It
even fails the common sense test. You are entitled to your
beliefs
as long as you don't try to legislate them for everyone
else.


What do you care? We have abortion on demand now, what
more do
you
want?
You have taken the parents out of the equation, which
"even fails
the
common sense test". Like I said before, compromise for
abortion
advocates, and most other zealots is just a means to an
end.. Now
that
you have it 100% your way you want it to be considered
settled
law,
and
nobody else can have an opinion on it.. I get it.

It actually was "settled law" until the religious zealots,
with
whom
you apparently identify, tried to make their religious
opinion a
secular law.

There is no such thing as "settled law."

It is sad that parents had to be "taken out of the
equation," but
there are parents that, due to religious convictions, will
allow
children to starve, go without medical treatment, and other
(secularly) ridiculous actions. Even now, there are
parents that
feel
that NOT vaccinating their children (boys AND girls)
against HPV,
which causes cervical cancer, will keep then chaste and
pure. They
are
even taking their position to court to defend their right as
parents
to allow their children to get cervical cancer. But that
is sane,
right?

Parents have been taken out of the equation because the
liberals
beliefs
are contrary to those of conservatives and the liberals cannot
stand to
let others live their own lives.

Actually, when it comes to abortion and religion, drop the
liberal
and
conservative thing. Bot sides have their fanatics that feel the
right to
tell others what to do.

Libertarian versus statism might have better alignment. Comes
down to
how much do you believe others have the rights to make their
own
choices?

What more do they want? They already have abortion on demand
as a
"compromise", what is next, will they get to choose who must
have an
abortion??

So? What is wrong with the choice being exclusively between
the woman
and the doctor?

It isn't your womb after all.

How about government dictating circumcision? (or banning it?)

Or maybe one step further, claim your genetics are not good
enough and
you must be sterilized. (an every genome has defects, that is
why we
are
not the same).

My point is, why are we even talking about it.. How much more
"compromise" do you want, you have abortion on demand now, paid
for and
delivered by organizations who have only one solution in their
arsenal,
and make a ton of money on it, with no right for any other
information
or opinion to the young girl that walks in....? if there is any
more
"compromise"... we will be at the point of: "government dictating
circumcision (or banning it?) Or claiming your genetics are not
good
enough and you must be sterilized." So, I ask you again, how
much more
"compromise" do you want?

No more is really needed, provided the women have access without
the
harassment and bully mentality. Their choice.

Yeah, as long as they only get that one point of view... What if
it was
the other side that was funded by the Govt and wouldn't allow any
talk
of abortion in their clinics? That is to say, what would you
think if
Planned Parenthood actually gave information beneficial to a
woman who
wanted to say be a parent, and couldn't talk about abortion at all.
Would you think of that as "compromise" too?


Don't get me wrong, I am nether pro nor con in the decision, just
believe it is their right to their body. Government (nor religion)
shouldn't be used to dictate having babies.

Yeah, but if you support Planned Parenthood, you absolutely do not
support a womans right to make an "informed" decision about
parenthood.
planned Parenthood is an abortion mill, they have no interest in
"informed" clients, only providing abortions...


It isn't 10,000 BC with a dwindling population of only 4 million
world
wide. As of 1825 give or take the population was a billion. Today 7
billion....it can't continue this way as one way or another
there are
going to be limits. If anything, in large areas of the world we
should
be looking at controls in birth.

So, you want women to make decisions based on that???


Our jobs should be to our family, not to the state to provided
breeding
vessels and soldiers.

Abortions don't create families...

Abortions don't create starving illiterate homeless children
turning to
crime either.



So, all those aborted kids were gonna' come up bad? I can see this is
futile. Like a Progressive, you are making it a binary issue and you
decide which is 0 and which is 1...

A good number of them would, because whether we like it or not, a good
number of them would come from unwed, unsupported, inner city welfare
recipients.

I am sure if the anti-abortion types raised the money and paid these
women to have the children. Oh wait, the idea is for someone else to
pay for it. Ya, right.

As I said, the anti-abortion movement is just another form of bully
mentality of idle fanatical minds. Last thing the world needs is
another starving, neglected, welfare sucking, poorly raised delinquent.

Look at Africa, billion new babies or so in the next 10 or 12 years to
add to the starvation and poverty they already have. Brilliant. /sarcasm

Africa's problems are not the result of anti-abortion types. Sometimes
you come across as though
your head is where the sun don't shine.

Well, where does the anti-abortion and anti-birth control crowd end?

If you do it by the book (Muslim or Catholic) your not supposed to use
birth control of any method. Have to out populate the other when war
doesn't work.

This is about religious ignorance and goes well beyond a simple domestic
US clinical abortion. It does get into the bigger picture of population
sustainability and th quality of which children are raised.

Having kids at any cost isn't the answer. It might have been 10,000 or
even 2000 years ago, but it is no longer true today.


So your solution is to control the population by making sure young women
only hear one voice, and that voice is yours? Yep, no compromise, no
other opinions or information allowed.. you are a fleabagger yourself...

Just for the record
 

On 9/26/2011 7:41 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 26/09/2011 5:14 PM, JustWait wrote:

Yeah, so lets kill each and every baby we can to make sure we don't get
a bad one... You guys kill me, I just never thought of you as a
progressive, forcing your ideals on women... Cause there is only one
voice that comes from Planned Abortionhood...

Answer this, does government have the rights to tell a woman what to do
with her womb?

Simple question. Because if so, it also implies they have the right to
tell you how to use your pecker.

Answer this. Why don't you want women to at least hear of alternatives?

Just for the record
 

On 26/09/2011 5:18 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 9/26/2011 1:55 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 26/09/2011 10:33 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 26 Sep 2011 09:41:09 -0600,
wrote:

Abortions don't create starving illiterate homeless children turning to
crime either.

Nuck, you have a point
Maybe they are just not framing the issue correctly.
They should say abortion is the most effective way to increase the
high school graduation rate, cut the crime rate and reduce the number
of people on welfare.

And Africa/Haiti are good examples of what happens with excessive ouof
control breeding of unsupportable children. Decay results as population
over runs resources.

But the reality is religion uses this as a way to out populate the
competition. No secret why Catholics are officially not to use birth
control.

In fact, in the past kings would have wars to deal with young population
growth to cut down the young aggressive male population and maintain
control for their kingdoms.

Why do people think the middle east and parts of Africa are a mess?
Somalia for example, go in there 20 year ago and feed, they breed and
now the problem is worse as you have a new crop of gang banging thugs
hyped up on the need for violence in their misery.


So your answer is government funded, and protected "violence"? Remember,
the government pays for abortions, but won't even discuss
alternatives... Again, with no opposition at all, what are you all
crying about?

So who is going to pay for the alternatives? Oh, you want me to pay.
Nothing to stop the pro-lifers to offer to pay these women to term for
their keep and compensation for missing a year of school or whatever.
Or perhaps pay for 20 years of support. Some might take you up on it if
they thought you were credible.

Present alternatives yes, discuss alternatives is just verbal bullying.
While I am not a woman, I would bet a pregnant woman takes it
seriously and didn't go to an abortion clinic by accident. No need to
bully the choices a doctor and the woman should make.

But we all know religious pushy gets.
--
Eat the rich, screw the companies and wonder why there are no jobs.
-- Obama and the lefty fleabagger attitude

Just for the record
 

On 9/26/2011 7:47 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 26/09/2011 5:16 PM, JustWait wrote:

Then why not let the doctors or Planned Abortionhood types discuss
alternatives to Abortion, can't stand up to the scrutiny???

Depends how it it done?

Is it as simple as here are your options: (order them how you want)

- abortion now
- have birth and keep the child
- have birth and place for adoption

Of above, presenting the options in a non-bully way without bias, this
is great.

Then why won't planned abortionhood or the government allow the second
two options to be explained and explored?

But often it is laced with a guilt trip bullying. "Hey baby killing
bitch, why don't you be a breeding vessel and give it up for adoption
because my religion says so."

Bull****... only one option is discussed so the "fringe" have no other
option but to yell from the sidelines...

Of which I completely disagree. Just another form of verbal bullying.

Kinda' like surpressing the speech and knowledge of alternatives from
even being discussed, yup, it's bullying all right...

Just for the record
 

On 9/26/2011 7:54 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 26/09/2011 5:18 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 9/26/2011 1:55 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 26/09/2011 10:33 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 26 Sep 2011 09:41:09 -0600,
wrote:

Abortions don't create starving illiterate homeless children
turning to
crime either.

Nuck, you have a point
Maybe they are just not framing the issue correctly.
They should say abortion is the most effective way to increase the
high school graduation rate, cut the crime rate and reduce the number
of people on welfare.

And Africa/Haiti are good examples of what happens with excessive ouof
control breeding of unsupportable children. Decay results as population
over runs resources.

But the reality is religion uses this as a way to out populate the
competition. No secret why Catholics are officially not to use birth
control.

In fact, in the past kings would have wars to deal with young population
growth to cut down the young aggressive male population and maintain
control for their kingdoms.

Why do people think the middle east and parts of Africa are a mess?
Somalia for example, go in there 20 year ago and feed, they breed and
now the problem is worse as you have a new crop of gang banging thugs
hyped up on the need for violence in their misery.


So your answer is government funded, and protected "violence"? Remember,
the government pays for abortions, but won't even discuss
alternatives... Again, with no opposition at all, what are you all
crying about?

So who is going to pay for the alternatives? Oh, you want me to pay.
Nothing to stop the pro-lifers to offer to pay these women to term for
their keep and compensation for missing a year of school or whatever. Or
perhaps pay for 20 years of support. Some might take you up on it if
they thought you were credible.

So, because it's cheaper for you to pay for an abortion, you are cool
with that? Figures, most progressives look at the purse first...


Present alternatives yes, discuss alternatives is just verbal bullying.
While I am not a woman, I would bet a pregnant woman takes it seriously
and didn't go to an abortion clinic by accident. No need to bully the
choices a doctor and the woman should make.

But we all know religious pushy gets.

We all know progressives get pushy, and if they don't get their way,
they get violent and criminal, what's your point?

Just for the record
 

On 26/09/2011 5:50 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 9/26/2011 7:34 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 26/09/2011 5:07 PM, John H wrote:
On Mon, 26 Sep 2011 11:49:50 -0600, wrote:

On 26/09/2011 10:42 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In ,

says...

On 9/26/2011 11:41 AM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 26/09/2011 8:24 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 9/26/2011 10:15 AM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 25/09/2011 8:26 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 9/25/2011 9:49 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 25/09/2011 3:41 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 9/25/2011 11:44 AM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 24/09/2011 5:11 PM, BAR wrote:
In ,
says...

On Sat, 24 Sep 2011 18:31:39 -0400, JustWait
wrote:

On 9/24/2011 6:08 PM, Wayne B wrote:
On Sat, 24 Sep 2011 09:57:46 -0400,
wrote:

So answer his question. Just when does a fertilized egg
become a
human?

At conception.

===

That's a religious view not supportable by any logic or
science. It
even fails the common sense test. You are entitled to your
beliefs
as long as you don't try to legislate them for everyone
else.


What do you care? We have abortion on demand now, what
more do
you
want?
You have taken the parents out of the equation, which
"even fails
the
common sense test". Like I said before, compromise for
abortion
advocates, and most other zealots is just a means to an
end.. Now
that
you have it 100% your way you want it to be considered
settled
law,
and
nobody else can have an opinion on it.. I get it.

It actually was "settled law" until the religious zealots,
with
whom
you apparently identify, tried to make their religious
opinion a
secular law.

There is no such thing as "settled law."

It is sad that parents had to be "taken out of the
equation," but
there are parents that, due to religious convictions, will
allow
children to starve, go without medical treatment, and other
(secularly) ridiculous actions. Even now, there are
parents that
feel
that NOT vaccinating their children (boys AND girls)
against HPV,
which causes cervical cancer, will keep then chaste and
pure. They
are
even taking their position to court to defend their right as
parents
to allow their children to get cervical cancer. But that
is sane,
right?

Parents have been taken out of the equation because the
liberals
beliefs
are contrary to those of conservatives and the liberals
cannot
stand to
let others live their own lives.

Actually, when it comes to abortion and religion, drop the
liberal
and
conservative thing. Bot sides have their fanatics that feel
the
right to
tell others what to do.

Libertarian versus statism might have better alignment. Comes
down to
how much do you believe others have the rights to make their
own
choices?

What more do they want? They already have abortion on demand
as a
"compromise", what is next, will they get to choose who must
have an
abortion??

So? What is wrong with the choice being exclusively between
the woman
and the doctor?

It isn't your womb after all.

How about government dictating circumcision? (or banning it?)

Or maybe one step further, claim your genetics are not good
enough and
you must be sterilized. (an every genome has defects, that is
why we
are
not the same).

My point is, why are we even talking about it.. How much more
"compromise" do you want, you have abortion on demand now, paid
for and
delivered by organizations who have only one solution in their
arsenal,
and make a ton of money on it, with no right for any other
information
or opinion to the young girl that walks in....? if there is any
more
"compromise"... we will be at the point of: "government dictating
circumcision (or banning it?) Or claiming your genetics are not
good
enough and you must be sterilized." So, I ask you again, how
much more
"compromise" do you want?

No more is really needed, provided the women have access without
the
harassment and bully mentality. Their choice.

Yeah, as long as they only get that one point of view... What if
it was
the other side that was funded by the Govt and wouldn't allow any
talk
of abortion in their clinics? That is to say, what would you
think if
Planned Parenthood actually gave information beneficial to a
woman who
wanted to say be a parent, and couldn't talk about abortion at all.
Would you think of that as "compromise" too?


Don't get me wrong, I am nether pro nor con in the decision, just
believe it is their right to their body. Government (nor religion)
shouldn't be used to dictate having babies.

Yeah, but if you support Planned Parenthood, you absolutely do not
support a womans right to make an "informed" decision about
parenthood.
planned Parenthood is an abortion mill, they have no interest in
"informed" clients, only providing abortions...


It isn't 10,000 BC with a dwindling population of only 4 million
world
wide. As of 1825 give or take the population was a billion.
Today 7
billion....it can't continue this way as one way or another
there are
going to be limits. If anything, in large areas of the world we
should
be looking at controls in birth.

So, you want women to make decisions based on that???


Our jobs should be to our family, not to the state to provided
breeding
vessels and soldiers.

Abortions don't create families...

Abortions don't create starving illiterate homeless children
turning to
crime either.



So, all those aborted kids were gonna' come up bad? I can see this is
futile. Like a Progressive, you are making it a binary issue and you
decide which is 0 and which is 1...

A good number of them would, because whether we like it or not, a good
number of them would come from unwed, unsupported, inner city welfare
recipients.

I am sure if the anti-abortion types raised the money and paid these
women to have the children. Oh wait, the idea is for someone else to
pay for it. Ya, right.

As I said, the anti-abortion movement is just another form of bully
mentality of idle fanatical minds. Last thing the world needs is
another starving, neglected, welfare sucking, poorly raised delinquent.

Look at Africa, billion new babies or so in the next 10 or 12 years to
add to the starvation and poverty they already have. Brilliant.
/sarcasm

Africa's problems are not the result of anti-abortion types. Sometimes
you come across as though
your head is where the sun don't shine.

Well, where does the anti-abortion and anti-birth control crowd end?

If you do it by the book (Muslim or Catholic) your not supposed to use
birth control of any method. Have to out populate the other when war
doesn't work.

This is about religious ignorance and goes well beyond a simple domestic
US clinical abortion. It does get into the bigger picture of population
sustainability and th quality of which children are raised.

Having kids at any cost isn't the answer. It might have been 10,000 or
even 2000 years ago, but it is no longer true today.


So your solution is to control the population by making sure young women
only hear one voice, and that voice is yours? Yep, no compromise, no
other opinions or information allowed.. you are a fleabagger yourself...

No, fleabaggers are pushy. I just want here rights respected. And that
means no guilt ripping from the religious fruitballs or government
regulation of pussy.

Women have rights. Present the options straight up without the
bull****, then listen. Then she gets to decided without the religious
bull****.
--
Eat the rich, screw the companies and wonder why there are no jobs.
-- Obama and the lefty fleabagger attitude

Just for the record
 

On 26/09/2011 5:51 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 9/26/2011 7:41 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 26/09/2011 5:14 PM, JustWait wrote:

Yeah, so lets kill each and every baby we can to make sure we don't get
a bad one... You guys kill me, I just never thought of you as a
progressive, forcing your ideals on women... Cause there is only one
voice that comes from Planned Abortionhood...

Answer this, does government have the rights to tell a woman what to do
with her womb?

Simple question. Because if so, it also implies they have the right to
tell you how to use your pecker.

Answer this. Why don't you want women to at least hear of alternatives?

Never said that, present the alternatives once without a bigoted biased
opinion, I am all for that. Information is good, religious bully is bad.

Pro-choice, a Libertarian view.

I will even go one step further, if the abortion is for birth control,
give her a pamphlet on more effective birth control pills including a 6
month supply.

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Eat the rich, screw the companies and wonder why there are no jobs.
-- Obama and the lefty fleabagger attitude