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On Wed, 21 Sep 2011 19:10:06 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:
This is one slightly right of center, politically Independent who is 100 percent *against* the death penalty. We need to find a way to deal with capital crimes in a different way. Eisboch Hear, hear!!! |
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On 9/21/11 9:08 PM, jps wrote:
On Wed, 21 Sep 2011 19:10:06 -0400, wrote: This is one slightly right of center, politically Independent who is 100 percent *against* the death penalty. We need to find a way to deal with capital crimes in a different way. Eisboch Hear, hear!!! Dealing with capital punishment is easy: outlaw it. -- I'll believe corporations are people when Texas executes one. |
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On 9/21/2011 9:44 PM, Drifter wrote:
On 9/21/2011 9:12 PM, wrote: On Wed, 21 Sep 2011 19:10:06 -0400, wrote: This is one slightly right of center, politically Independent who is 100 percent *against* the death penalty. We need to find a way to deal with capital crimes in a different way. Eisboch Send the all the death row inmates to Europe and see how long it takes them to reinstate hanging,firing squads and the guillotine How about if "we" find an *effective* way to deal with capital crimes in a different way *THEN* Get rid of the death penalty. I'm all ears??? |
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On 21/09/2011 5:10 PM, Eisboch wrote:
This is one slightly right of center, politically Independent who is 100 percent *against* the death penalty. We need to find a way to deal with capital crimes in a different way. Eisboch Why? But let assume we do. Might I suggest prison-slavery? Keep them alive if they earn their keep. No reason for society to keep paying for the air they breath if they care not about society. Some creative ideas if they really want to stay alive. Give the death-penalty person an option, a painless quick death. Or be implanted with a small explosive device that a satellite can trigger if any violations occur. Then they can be assigned to be a slave say for helping disabled people, farm work slavery, even corporate slavery....one mis-step and their execution can be finalized. I don't feel like paying taxes for murderers, cop killers, multiple repeat rapists and sex offenders...even 21 DWIs with 2 separate incidents of manslaughter...why should society live with the carnage and cost? From a cop, "Alive or dead, sad to say but victims have no rights". Before we decide to not use the death penalty, think about the people and families the death row inmate has caused pain too. I remember looking at the Texas death row once, the carnage and horror in their wrap sheets....sure don't want them loose. But who pays for their potentially 40 years of keep, appeals and nonsense? Often these types even kill each other inside of jail. There are really people like Hannibal Cannibal. How much strife and pain can a person cause before society gives up and says good-bye? -- First rule of holes: If you're in one, don't keep digging. So in the hole, why do we insanely want more debt? |
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On 21/09/2011 7:44 PM, Drifter wrote:
On 9/21/2011 9:12 PM, wrote: On Wed, 21 Sep 2011 19:10:06 -0400, wrote: This is one slightly right of center, politically Independent who is 100 percent *against* the death penalty. We need to find a way to deal with capital crimes in a different way. Eisboch Send the all the death row inmates to Europe and see how long it takes them to reinstate hanging,firing squads and the guillotine How about if "we" find an *effective* way to deal with capital crimes in a different way *THEN* Get rid of the death penalty. Just call it euthanasia, problem solved. -- First rule of holes: If you're in one, don't keep digging. So in the hole, why do we insanely want more debt? |
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On 9/21/11 10:45 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 9/21/2011 9:44 PM, Drifter wrote: On 9/21/2011 9:12 PM, wrote: On Wed, 21 Sep 2011 19:10:06 -0400, wrote: This is one slightly right of center, politically Independent who is 100 percent *against* the death penalty. We need to find a way to deal with capital crimes in a different way. Eisboch Send the all the death row inmates to Europe and see how long it takes them to reinstate hanging,firing squads and the guillotine How about if "we" find an *effective* way to deal with capital crimes in a different way *THEN* Get rid of the death penalty. I'm all ears??? We'll come up with something *after* you lose your temper yet again, act out one of your violent fantasies, get convicted, get strapped to a gurney, and so forth and so on. -- I'll believe corporations are people when Texas executes one. |
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On 9/21/11 7:10 PM, Eisboch wrote:
This is one slightly right of center, politically Independent who is 100 percent *against* the death penalty. We need to find a way to deal with capital crimes in a different way. Eisboch Don't elect presidents who are so gung ho about the death penalty. President who do not favor the death penalty will nominate prospective Associate Justices to the Supreme Court who do not favor the death penalty and as soon as a 6-3 majority is achieved, will determine the death penalty is "cruel and unusual punishment" and thereby outlaw it. -- I'll believe corporations are people when Texas executes one. |
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On 9/22/2011 7:35 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 9/21/11 10:45 PM, JustWait wrote: On 9/21/2011 9:44 PM, Drifter wrote: On 9/21/2011 9:12 PM, wrote: On Wed, 21 Sep 2011 19:10:06 -0400, wrote: This is one slightly right of center, politically Independent who is 100 percent *against* the death penalty. We need to find a way to deal with capital crimes in a different way. Eisboch Send the all the death row inmates to Europe and see how long it takes them to reinstate hanging,firing squads and the guillotine How about if "we" find an *effective* way to deal with capital crimes in a different way *THEN* Get rid of the death penalty. I'm all ears??? We'll come up with something *after* you lose your temper yet again, act out one of your violent fantasies, get convicted, get strapped to a gurney, and so forth and so on. No you won't. Why? Because you are a dumb liberal who thinks he can legislate away all problems. "Ban capital punishment" you say. Brilliant Idea. Is that what you call critical thinking? |
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On 9/21/2011 11:00 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 21/09/2011 7:44 PM, Drifter wrote: On 9/21/2011 9:12 PM, wrote: On Wed, 21 Sep 2011 19:10:06 -0400, wrote: This is one slightly right of center, politically Independent who is 100 percent *against* the death penalty. We need to find a way to deal with capital crimes in a different way. Eisboch Send the all the death row inmates to Europe and see how long it takes them to reinstate hanging,firing squads and the guillotine How about if "we" find an *effective* way to deal with capital crimes in a different way *THEN* Get rid of the death penalty. Just call it euthanasia, problem solved. I like it. |
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On 9/22/2011 8:09 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 9/21/11 7:10 PM, Eisboch wrote: This is one slightly right of center, politically Independent who is 100 percent *against* the death penalty. We need to find a way to deal with capital crimes in a different way. Eisboch Don't elect presidents who are so gung ho about the death penalty. President who do not favor the death penalty will nominate prospective Associate Justices to the Supreme Court who do not favor the death penalty and as soon as a 6-3 majority is achieved, will determine the death penalty is "cruel and unusual punishment" and thereby outlaw it. Brilliant answer you dumb ****. Do you suppose that president will oppose abortion with the same vigor. And then there's the small problem of propagation of criminal minds. Might be too late to stop that though. It's already crept into our executive legislative and justice system. May your lovely wife run away and find happiness with a brick mason. |
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On 9/22/11 10:23 AM, John H wrote:
Have you ever wondered why the same folks who hate the death penalty seem to have no problem with Muslims stoning women to death for 'adultery'? On what do you base that moronic statement, Herring? -- I'll believe corporations are people when Texas executes one. |
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On Thu, 22 Sep 2011 09:48:20 -0500, Boating All Out wrote:
In article , says... I have no problem with imprisonment for life with hard labor ... having to earn every penny for whatever privileges or perks available in a convicted murder's cell like TV, books whatever. Develop work programs in the prisons that help pay for their incarceration. Hard work never killed anyone. I am just totally against the "eye for an eye" punishment mentality. We consider chopping off of a hand for thievery or stoning to death for adultery to be barbaric in other cultures. What is "un-barbaric" about a life for a life especially when the potential exists that some are wrongly accused and sentenced? "Oooops. Sorry about that" is a little late. I think in many cases a tough, work laden life existence in prison with minimal privileges could be more of a persuasive influence to prevent a premeditated murder than a death sentence. Many are prone to committing suicide anyway. It's a simple fact that most of us don't want certain killers breathing the same air as us, or society's money feeding them. 'Certain killers" means certain. There can be no question of guilt. And there are plenty of them. This guy in Georgia doesn't qualify. Peterson in California doesn't qualify. Incontrovertible guilt isn't determined by a jury. "Beyond reasonable doubt" isn't good enough. A "confession" isn't good enough Everybody knows the innocent are convicted, and falsely confess. Use the death penalty for the John Wayne Gacys. Use it for the 2 lowlifes who killed a man's wife and daughters up your way. Do you have a problem executing people like these? Caught in the act, or by incontrovertible evidence. The problem is that you and I know what is incontrovertible evidence. You and I would spare a life if there was even a shadow of doubt. You and I would never take the slightest chance of an innocent being executed. Prosecutors aren't you or I. They go for the death penalty too often. If the death penalty is outlawed, it will be because the prosecutors have with their zeal sowed the seeds of doubt. There can be no doubt of absolute guilt when executing people. Only fools protect evil killers from execution. And only fools don't see the evil in executing the possibly innocent. So it's all up to the prosecutors which way it goes. Prosecutors are politicians. We're ****ed. No 'we're' not. Those deserving the death penalty are, as they should be. |
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On 22/09/2011 7:32 AM, Drifter wrote:
On 9/21/2011 11:00 PM, Canuck57 wrote: On 21/09/2011 7:44 PM, Drifter wrote: On 9/21/2011 9:12 PM, wrote: On Wed, 21 Sep 2011 19:10:06 -0400, wrote: This is one slightly right of center, politically Independent who is 100 percent *against* the death penalty. We need to find a way to deal with capital crimes in a different way. Eisboch Send the all the death row inmates to Europe and see how long it takes them to reinstate hanging,firing squads and the guillotine How about if "we" find an *effective* way to deal with capital crimes in a different way *THEN* Get rid of the death penalty. Just call it euthanasia, problem solved. I like it. Simplicity has it merits. Too bad we couldn't ban fleabaggger debtors from mortgaging our grand kids futures. -- First rule of holes: If you're in one, don't keep digging. So in the hole, why do we insanely want more debt? |
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On 22/09/2011 6:09 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 9/21/11 7:10 PM, Eisboch wrote: This is one slightly right of center, politically Independent who is 100 percent *against* the death penalty. We need to find a way to deal with capital crimes in a different way. Eisboch Don't elect presidents who are so gung ho about the death penalty. President who do not favor the death penalty will nominate prospective Associate Justices to the Supreme Court who do not favor the death penalty and as soon as a 6-3 majority is achieved, will determine the death penalty is "cruel and unusual punishment" and thereby outlaw it. Can we outlaw fleabagger lefty debt being placed on our grand kids? -- First rule of holes: If you're in one, don't keep digging. So in the hole, why do we insanely want more debt? |
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On 9/22/11 6:20 PM, BAR wrote:
In , says... This is one slightly right of center, politically Independent who is 100 percent *against* the death penalty. We need to find a way to deal with capital crimes in a different way. Eisboch As soon as abortions are outlawed. A fetus is not a person, despite the efforts of right-wingers to ignore science and make it so. Someone being executed is a person. -- I'll believe corporations are people when Texas executes one. |
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says... In article , says... This is one slightly right of center, politically Independent who is 100 percent *against* the death penalty. We need to find a way to deal with capital crimes in a different way. Eisboch As soon as abortions are outlawed. Nobody ever outlawed abortions, just moved them underground. Nowadays a quick cheap air flight to someplace will work. So traffic on airplanes and in back alleys would increase. And a dope like you will think there's a difference. Because there's a law. You're just a damn government thug But there is one way to eliminate abortions. Kill all the women on the planet. They're the ones getting all the abortions. 100%. Did you know that? You game to kill all the women to solve your problem? Wouldn't surprise me much. |
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On 9/22/2011 6:29 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 9/22/11 6:20 PM, BAR wrote: In , says... This is one slightly right of center, politically Independent who is 100 percent *against* the death penalty. We need to find a way to deal with capital crimes in a different way. Eisboch As soon as abortions are outlawed. A fetus is not a person, despite the efforts of right-wingers to ignore science and make it so. Someone being executed is a person. A fetus is an innocent unborn baby. Someone being executed has committed a heinous crime. |
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On 9/22/2011 6:51 PM, Drifter wrote:
On 9/22/2011 6:29 PM, X ` Man wrote: On 9/22/11 6:20 PM, BAR wrote: In , says... This is one slightly right of center, politically Independent who is 100 percent *against* the death penalty. We need to find a way to deal with capital crimes in a different way. Eisboch As soon as abortions are outlawed. A fetus is not a person, despite the efforts of right-wingers to ignore science and make it so. Someone being executed is a person. A fetus is an innocent unborn baby. Someone being executed has committed a heinous crime. Are those the same executives, er, uh, I mean, scientists that told us about Global Taxing even though they know the "science" is faked? |
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On 9/22/11 7:35 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 9/22/2011 6:51 PM, Drifter wrote: On 9/22/2011 6:29 PM, X ` Man wrote: On 9/22/11 6:20 PM, BAR wrote: In , says... This is one slightly right of center, politically Independent who is 100 percent *against* the death penalty. We need to find a way to deal with capital crimes in a different way. Eisboch As soon as abortions are outlawed. A fetus is not a person, despite the efforts of right-wingers to ignore science and make it so. Someone being executed is a person. A fetus is an innocent unborn baby. Someone being executed has committed a heinous crime. Are those the same executives, er, uh, I mean, scientists that told us about Global Taxing even though they know the "science" is faked? The science is not fake. But you thinking you have the smarts to tell...that's faked. -- I'll believe corporations are people when Texas executes one. |
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X ` Man wrote:
On 9/22/11 6:20 PM, BAR wrote: In , says... This is one slightly right of center, politically Independent who is 100 percent *against* the death penalty. We need to find a way to deal with capital crimes in a different way. Eisboch As soon as abortions are outlawed. A fetus is not a person, despite the efforts of right-wingers to ignore science and make it so. Someone being executed is a person. The fetus has a better shot at being an upstanding member of society. -HB |
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On 22/09/2011 2:23 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 21 Sep 2011 21:44:08 -0400, wrote: On 9/21/2011 9:12 PM, wrote: On Wed, 21 Sep 2011 19:10:06 -0400, wrote: This is one slightly right of center, politically Independent who is 100 percent *against* the death penalty. We need to find a way to deal with capital crimes in a different way. Eisboch Send the all the death row inmates to Europe and see how long it takes them to reinstate hanging,firing squads and the guillotine How about if "we" find an *effective* way to deal with capital crimes in a different way *THEN* Get rid of the death penalty. We haven't found an effective way to deal with petty crimes, yet. Turning criminals loose from the justice system should be a criminal offense.... China has. Caning, a time tested method of adult spanking. They say it is highly effective in cost and in teaching of respect. And each time they see you, you get more than before... they say 32 can cripple for life. Rules are simple, standard graded bamboo canes are used. If the administrator of the punishment breaks it cleanly over you ass, the cane has been successfully administered. If it doesn't break, you get another one until it does. You might only get 3 canes for defacing a wall, 12 canes for a rape but if you do it again, you might get 24 or more. They say it instills fear to a point where they cease their violence and vandalism. -- First rule of holes: If you're in one, don't keep digging. So in the hole, why do we insanely want more debt? |
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On 22/09/2011 4:20 PM, BAR wrote:
In , says... This is one slightly right of center, politically Independent who is 100 percent *against* the death penalty. We need to find a way to deal with capital crimes in a different way. Eisboch As soon as abortions are outlawed. Well, you fleabaggers really like this one, telling a woman what to do with her womb negating her rights as a human. Perhaps we should tell men what to do with their pecker. Say, if the baby is born, you are an indentured slave and canes shall be used to spank your pecker if you don't support him. Get real. Women have rights too, and that includes carrying the seed. If she decides 5 weeks later she doesn't want your offspring just too damned bad. If kept for say 6 months, then I agree...at that time limited rights can start for the child but not at the cost of the womans life unless she consents. -- First rule of holes: If you're in one, don't keep digging. So in the hole, why do we insanely want more debt? |
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On 22/09/2011 5:50 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 9/22/11 7:35 PM, JustWait wrote: On 9/22/2011 6:51 PM, Drifter wrote: On 9/22/2011 6:29 PM, X ` Man wrote: On 9/22/11 6:20 PM, BAR wrote: In , says... This is one slightly right of center, politically Independent who is 100 percent *against* the death penalty. We need to find a way to deal with capital crimes in a different way. Eisboch As soon as abortions are outlawed. A fetus is not a person, despite the efforts of right-wingers to ignore science and make it so. Someone being executed is a person. A fetus is an innocent unborn baby. Someone being executed has committed a heinous crime. Are those the same executives, er, uh, I mean, scientists that told us about Global Taxing even though they know the "science" is faked? The science is not fake. But you thinking you have the smarts to tell...that's faked. Agreed, science is not fake. But there are a lot of fake people touting fake science for monetary gain or religion bull****. -- First rule of holes: If you're in one, don't keep digging. So in the hole, why do we insanely want more debt? |
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says... On 9/22/11 7:35 PM, JustWait wrote: On 9/22/2011 6:51 PM, Drifter wrote: On 9/22/2011 6:29 PM, X ` Man wrote: On 9/22/11 6:20 PM, BAR wrote: In , says... This is one slightly right of center, politically Independent who is 100 percent *against* the death penalty. We need to find a way to deal with capital crimes in a different way. Eisboch As soon as abortions are outlawed. A fetus is not a person, despite the efforts of right-wingers to ignore science and make it so. Someone being executed is a person. A fetus is an innocent unborn baby. Someone being executed has committed a heinous crime. Are those the same executives, er, uh, I mean, scientists that told us about Global Taxing even though they know the "science" is faked? The science is not fake. But you thinking you have the smarts to tell...that's faked. If you can be convicted of murdering a fetus then it is a person. |
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says... On 22/09/2011 5:50 PM, X ` Man wrote: On 9/22/11 7:35 PM, JustWait wrote: On 9/22/2011 6:51 PM, Drifter wrote: On 9/22/2011 6:29 PM, X ` Man wrote: On 9/22/11 6:20 PM, BAR wrote: In , says... This is one slightly right of center, politically Independent who is 100 percent *against* the death penalty. We need to find a way to deal with capital crimes in a different way. Eisboch As soon as abortions are outlawed. A fetus is not a person, despite the efforts of right-wingers to ignore science and make it so. Someone being executed is a person. A fetus is an innocent unborn baby. Someone being executed has committed a heinous crime. Are those the same executives, er, uh, I mean, scientists that told us about Global Taxing even though they know the "science" is faked? The science is not fake. But you thinking you have the smarts to tell...that's faked. Agreed, science is not fake. But there are a lot of fake people touting fake science for monetary gain or religion bull****. Science is just observation and consensus. |
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On 9/22/2011 8:50 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 22/09/2011 5:50 PM, X ` Man wrote: On 9/22/11 7:35 PM, JustWait wrote: On 9/22/2011 6:51 PM, Drifter wrote: On 9/22/2011 6:29 PM, X ` Man wrote: On 9/22/11 6:20 PM, BAR wrote: In , says... This is one slightly right of center, politically Independent who is 100 percent *against* the death penalty. We need to find a way to deal with capital crimes in a different way. Eisboch As soon as abortions are outlawed. A fetus is not a person, despite the efforts of right-wingers to ignore science and make it so. Someone being executed is a person. A fetus is an innocent unborn baby. Someone being executed has committed a heinous crime. Are those the same executives, er, uh, I mean, scientists that told us about Global Taxing even though they know the "science" is faked? The science is not fake. But you thinking you have the smarts to tell...that's faked. Agreed, science is not fake. But there are a lot of fake people touting fake science for monetary gain or religion bull****. Much of the science is faked... Call it what you will. |
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On 22/09/2011 8:45 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 9/22/2011 8:50 PM, Canuck57 wrote: On 22/09/2011 5:50 PM, X ` Man wrote: On 9/22/11 7:35 PM, JustWait wrote: On 9/22/2011 6:51 PM, Drifter wrote: On 9/22/2011 6:29 PM, X ` Man wrote: On 9/22/11 6:20 PM, BAR wrote: In , says... This is one slightly right of center, politically Independent who is 100 percent *against* the death penalty. We need to find a way to deal with capital crimes in a different way. Eisboch As soon as abortions are outlawed. A fetus is not a person, despite the efforts of right-wingers to ignore science and make it so. Someone being executed is a person. A fetus is an innocent unborn baby. Someone being executed has committed a heinous crime. Are those the same executives, er, uh, I mean, scientists that told us about Global Taxing even though they know the "science" is faked? The science is not fake. But you thinking you have the smarts to tell...that's faked. Agreed, science is not fake. But there are a lot of fake people touting fake science for monetary gain or religion bull****. Much of the science is faked... Call it what you will. Faked scienc could be called jun science. But science is based on empirical fact not conjecture. What Gore sells is bull**** and conjecture. -- First rule of holes: If you're in one, don't keep digging. So in the hole, why do we insanely want more debt? |
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On 22/09/2011 8:08 PM, BAR wrote:
In articlexZmdnalw1dM1VObTnZ2dnUVZ_rWdnZ2d@earthlink .com, says... On 9/22/11 7:35 PM, JustWait wrote: On 9/22/2011 6:51 PM, Drifter wrote: On 9/22/2011 6:29 PM, X ` Man wrote: On 9/22/11 6:20 PM, BAR wrote: In , says... This is one slightly right of center, politically Independent who is 100 percent *against* the death penalty. We need to find a way to deal with capital crimes in a different way. Eisboch As soon as abortions are outlawed. A fetus is not a person, despite the efforts of right-wingers to ignore science and make it so. Someone being executed is a person. A fetus is an innocent unborn baby. Someone being executed has committed a heinous crime. Are those the same executives, er, uh, I mean, scientists that told us about Global Taxing even though they know the "science" is faked? The science is not fake. But you thinking you have the smarts to tell...that's faked. If you can be convicted of murdering a fetus then it is a person. Personal opinions, usually from the fanatical religious types. Fact is you religious types don't even read the bible in proper context. Minds too small, egos too big.... to the universe your not even ant compared to earth. Much of the bible makes all sorts of sense when taken into context. ~2000 years ago it made all sorts of literal sense, today though you need to account for 2000 years of evolution of knowledge. Here is one that might grab you. Time is not a constant, EMC^2. The rate of elapsed time has through empirical observation to be confirmed as not a constant. So is 7 days to god the same as 7 days to us? It is relative, 7 days on the surface of the sun should you be able to service it is a very long time here on earth. Or how about why you shouldn't marry your brother or sister, how do you explain DNA deterioration and problems with that idea to a ~0BC man? Or why monogamy is good? It is good to cut down on VD. Woman created of man, woman is XX and man is XY. Ya, I somehow don't believe your religious animal of 2 centuries ago could understand sex chromosome and genome. The bible often talks in metaphors and simplicity for more simple minds. Still works today. Fact is mankind is still just a stupid animal, just enough smarts to be above rats and dogs, but more vicious than any other animal. More so than Velociraptor, as many of our kind kill not for food, but religion and pleasure. And mans life on earth I bet is short. -- First rule of holes: If you're in one, don't keep digging. So in the hole, why do we insanely want more debt? |
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On 9/22/11 10:45 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 9/22/2011 8:50 PM, Canuck57 wrote: On 22/09/2011 5:50 PM, X ` Man wrote: On 9/22/11 7:35 PM, JustWait wrote: On 9/22/2011 6:51 PM, Drifter wrote: On 9/22/2011 6:29 PM, X ` Man wrote: On 9/22/11 6:20 PM, BAR wrote: In , says... This is one slightly right of center, politically Independent who is 100 percent *against* the death penalty. We need to find a way to deal with capital crimes in a different way. Eisboch As soon as abortions are outlawed. A fetus is not a person, despite the efforts of right-wingers to ignore science and make it so. Someone being executed is a person. A fetus is an innocent unborn baby. Someone being executed has committed a heinous crime. Are those the same executives, er, uh, I mean, scientists that told us about Global Taxing even though they know the "science" is faked? The science is not fake. But you thinking you have the smarts to tell...that's faked. Agreed, science is not fake. But there are a lot of fake people touting fake science for monetary gain or religion bull****. Much of the science is faked... Call it what you will. You are in no position through intelligence, education or experience to make such a statement. -- I'll believe corporations are people when Texas executes one. |
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On 9/22/11 10:08 PM, BAR wrote:
In articlexZmdnalw1dM1VObTnZ2dnUVZ_rWdnZ2d@earthlink .com, says... On 9/22/11 7:35 PM, JustWait wrote: On 9/22/2011 6:51 PM, Drifter wrote: On 9/22/2011 6:29 PM, X ` Man wrote: On 9/22/11 6:20 PM, BAR wrote: In , says... This is one slightly right of center, politically Independent who is 100 percent *against* the death penalty. We need to find a way to deal with capital crimes in a different way. Eisboch As soon as abortions are outlawed. A fetus is not a person, despite the efforts of right-wingers to ignore science and make it so. Someone being executed is a person. A fetus is an innocent unborn baby. Someone being executed has committed a heinous crime. Are those the same executives, er, uh, I mean, scientists that told us about Global Taxing even though they know the "science" is faked? The science is not fake. But you thinking you have the smarts to tell...that's faked. If you can be convicted of murdering a fetus then it is a person. snerk Those new laws are nothing more than an extension of religious claptrap. -- I'll believe corporations are people when Texas executes one. |
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