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On 9/30/2011 6:31 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 9/30/11 1:16 AM, wrote: On Thu, 29 Sep 2011 17:47:26 -0700 (PDT), wrote: On Sep 29, 7:17 pm, wrote: . If you want to see the drug history, do a hair sample and look at the growth time. It tells a lot. That may be why a lot of construction workers shave their head. You seem to have developed an anti-working guy attitude recently. You say a "lot" of construction workers shave their heads. Have you done a study? What percentage shave their heads? You seem to think that cut and pasting or representing third party hearsay reporting of fourth party opinions is OK as long as you are doing it and it supports your point of view. WAFA PS: This appears to be Plumes M O as well. Is she one of your sock puppets? |
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says... On 9/29/11 8:17 PM, wrote: On Thu, 29 Sep 2011 11:34:41 -0400, X ` wrote: On 9/29/11 11:20 AM, wrote: On Thu, 29 Sep 2011 09:32:01 -0400, X ` wrote: Fla. welfare applicants less likely to use drugs By BILL KACZOR , 09.28.11, 08:23 AM EDT TALLAHASSEE, Fla. (AP) -- Preliminary figures on a new Florida law requiring drug tests for welfare applicants show that they are less likely than other people to use drugs, not more. One famous Floridian suggests that it's the people who came up with the law who should be submitting specimens. Columnist and best-selling author Carl Hiaasen offered to pay for drug testing for all 160 members of the Florida Legislature in what he called "a patriotic whiz-fest." Several of the law's supporters say they're on board. "There is a certain public interest in going after hypocrisy," Hiaasen said Tuesday, two days after he made his proposal in a Miami Herald column. "Folks that are applying for DCF (Department of Children and Families) money normally wouldn't be standing in that line, and on top of that humiliation they now get to pee in a cup so they can get grocery money for their kids," Hiaasen told The Associated Press in an interview at his Vero Beach home. Gov. Rick Scott and other supporters of the law - the only one of its kind currently on the books in the U.S. - say the tests will save the state cash by weeding out people who would use welfare money on drugs. Critics say that just a few months after it went into effect, the law has already refuted the idea that people receiving public assistance are more likely to use drugs. Preliminary figures show that about 2.5 percent of up to 2,000 applicants for Temporary Assistance for Needy Families have tested positive since the law went into effect in July. Another 2 percent declined to take the test, Department of Children and Families officials say. All it really does is prove these people know how to beat a drug test. On the other hand that is an important skill because you have to take a drug test for just about any job you might want to have ... including any job that involves government money. Are government workers more likely to be drug users? They all have to take drug tests. I guarantee you that if the state were using a modern drug test and proper procedures for running it, "beating" the test would be nearly impossible. Your information regarding the validity of modern tests is out of date. This is the $30 reagent test, not the $150 gas chromatograph test. Anyone can beat any test by abstaining a while anyway, each drug is different. The real ugly ones burn out the fastest. Marijuana in your test results is enough to get you tossed off a construction job, and mj lingers a long time, longer than you might think...plus, the tests typically are given on a random schedule. But you said beating a modern drug test is "nearly impossible". You are wrong, coward. |
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says... On 9/29/2011 8:45 PM, X ` Man wrote: On 9/29/11 8:17 PM, wrote: On Thu, 29 Sep 2011 11:34:41 -0400, X ` wrote: On 9/29/11 11:20 AM, wrote: On Thu, 29 Sep 2011 09:32:01 -0400, X ` wrote: Fla. welfare applicants less likely to use drugs By BILL KACZOR , 09.28.11, 08:23 AM EDT TALLAHASSEE, Fla. (AP) -- Preliminary figures on a new Florida law requiring drug tests for welfare applicants show that they are less likely than other people to use drugs, not more. One famous Floridian suggests that it's the people who came up with the law who should be submitting specimens. Columnist and best-selling author Carl Hiaasen offered to pay for drug testing for all 160 members of the Florida Legislature in what he called "a patriotic whiz-fest." Several of the law's supporters say they're on board. "There is a certain public interest in going after hypocrisy," Hiaasen said Tuesday, two days after he made his proposal in a Miami Herald column. "Folks that are applying for DCF (Department of Children and Families) money normally wouldn't be standing in that line, and on top of that humiliation they now get to pee in a cup so they can get grocery money for their kids," Hiaasen told The Associated Press in an interview at his Vero Beach home. Gov. Rick Scott and other supporters of the law - the only one of its kind currently on the books in the U.S. - say the tests will save the state cash by weeding out people who would use welfare money on drugs. Critics say that just a few months after it went into effect, the law has already refuted the idea that people receiving public assistance are more likely to use drugs. Preliminary figures show that about 2.5 percent of up to 2,000 applicants for Temporary Assistance for Needy Families have tested positive since the law went into effect in July. Another 2 percent declined to take the test, Department of Children and Families officials say. All it really does is prove these people know how to beat a drug test. On the other hand that is an important skill because you have to take a drug test for just about any job you might want to have ... including any job that involves government money. Are government workers more likely to be drug users? They all have to take drug tests. I guarantee you that if the state were using a modern drug test and proper procedures for running it, "beating" the test would be nearly impossible. Your information regarding the validity of modern tests is out of date. This is the $30 reagent test, not the $150 gas chromatograph test. Anyone can beat any test by abstaining a while anyway, each drug is different. The real ugly ones burn out the fastest. Marijuana in your test results is enough to get you tossed off a construction job, and mj lingers a long time, longer than you might think...plus, the tests typically are given on a random schedule. Looks like there are two Pseudo doctors in the Krause family. Do you think Dr. Fourchin is giving him this bad information? |
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On 9/30/11 9:26 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 9/30/2011 1:15 AM, wrote: On Thu, 29 Sep 2011 20:45:09 -0400, X ` wrote: Your information regarding the validity of modern tests is out of date. This is the $30 reagent test, not the $150 gas chromatograph test. Anyone can beat any test by abstaining a while anyway, each drug is different. The real ugly ones burn out the fastest. Marijuana in your test results is enough to get you tossed off a construction job, and mj lingers a long time, longer than you might think...plus, the tests typically are given on a random schedule. True but if you smoke crack on Friday afternoon you will probably pass the test on Monday. OTOH if your doctor gives you a prescription for Vicodin you are fine, no matter what even if you are stoned out of your mind. That is a real flaw in the drug testing scam. Most places don't even test for alcohol unless it is an accident investigation. If this is just a random drug screen, you can be ****faced drunk and pass. BTW I am surprised you didn't mention the original test law said you had to be tested in Scott's own lab. That didn't last long. I could smoke a joint today, and pass a test tomorrow... A point of random drug testing is that it is...random. -- I'll believe corporations are people when Texas executes one. |
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