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says...

On 10/1/11 8:50 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 01 Oct 2011 16:58:21 -0400, X `
wrote:

On 10/1/11 4:45 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 01 Oct 2011 13:06:20 -0400, X `
wrote:



States with the most executions since 1976:

Texas has had 475
Virginia, 109
Oklahoma, 96
Florida, 69
Missouri, 68
Alabama, 54
Georgia, 52
Ohio, 45
North Carolina, 43
South Carolina, 43
Louisiana, 28

Executions in large numbers are mostly a Southern thing. The government
of Missouri tried to secede. Oklahoma is as backwards a state as any of
those in the South.

Bloodthirsty. Fundamentalist. Executions.

If you toss Texas as the runaway "hang'm high" state the worst one on
the list is Virginia, far from a southern state. Most of the
population basically lives in the DC metro area. They are blue and
host the richest city (Falls Church) and the 2 richest counties
(Fairfax and Loudoun) in the US..
When you also factor in population, they are almost as bad as Texas
and blow out a state like Florida that has 2.5 times the population
and about 60% of the number of executions.
So much for the idea that this is just a terra cotta tooth redneck
thing.


Uh, Virginia *is* a Southern state. The capital of the confederacy was
in Richmond for most of the war. I agree that parts of Northern Virginia
are blue. Virginia, however, elected two right-wing crackpots this last
go-around as governor and attorney general. The states that execute the
most people are in the South, for the most part. Period. Progressive
states have few, if any, executions, regardless of population.

Virginia is basically DC. The civil war was a long time ago. Where you
live was tobacco plantations during the civil war.
Ohio was on your list and that is about as north as you can get. It is
right across the lake from Canada.


I said executions were "mostly" a southern thing. That would allow the
inclusion of Ohio.

I don't buy your posit on Virginia. It is still a southern state.

Always leaving yourself an out.

On 10/2/11 8:13 AM, BAR wrote:
In articleVPGdndQB5LxNXBrTnZ2dnUVZ_jEAAAAA@earthlink .com,
says...

On 10/1/11 8:50 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 01 Oct 2011 16:58:21 -0400, X `
wrote:

On 10/1/11 4:45 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 01 Oct 2011 13:06:20 -0400, X `
wrote:



States with the most executions since 1976:

Texas has had 475
Virginia, 109
Oklahoma, 96
Florida, 69
Missouri, 68
Alabama, 54
Georgia, 52
Ohio, 45
North Carolina, 43
South Carolina, 43
Louisiana, 28

Executions in large numbers are mostly a Southern thing. The government
of Missouri tried to secede. Oklahoma is as backwards a state as any of
those in the South.

Bloodthirsty. Fundamentalist. Executions.

If you toss Texas as the runaway "hang'm high" state the worst one on
the list is Virginia, far from a southern state. Most of the
population basically lives in the DC metro area. They are blue and
host the richest city (Falls Church) and the 2 richest counties
(Fairfax and Loudoun) in the US..
When you also factor in population, they are almost as bad as Texas
and blow out a state like Florida that has 2.5 times the population
and about 60% of the number of executions.
So much for the idea that this is just a terra cotta tooth redneck
thing.


Uh, Virginia *is* a Southern state. The capital of the confederacy was
in Richmond for most of the war. I agree that parts of Northern Virginia
are blue. Virginia, however, elected two right-wing crackpots this last
go-around as governor and attorney general. The states that execute the
most people are in the South, for the most part. Period. Progressive
states have few, if any, executions, regardless of population.

Virginia is basically DC. The civil war was a long time ago. Where you
live was tobacco plantations during the civil war.
Ohio was on your list and that is about as north as you can get. It is
right across the lake from Canada.


I said executions were "mostly" a southern thing. That would allow the
inclusion of Ohio.

I don't buy your posit on Virginia. It is still a southern state.

Always leaving yourself an out.




Only simpletons believe the world is black or white.

--
I'll believe corporations are people when Texas executes one.

In article ,
says...

On Sat, 01 Oct 2011 21:43:44 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

Virginia is basically DC. The civil war was a long time ago. Where you
live was tobacco plantations during the civil war.
Ohio was on your list and that is about as north as you can get. It is
right across the lake from Canada.


I said executions were "mostly" a southern thing. That would allow the
inclusion of Ohio.

I don't buy your posit on Virginia. It is still a southern state.

Virginia is a southern state in the same way Maryland is a southern
state. It is south of the Mason Dixon line.
Politically it is DC, at least where most of the people live. The
reason it leans a bit more right than Montgomery County is because of
the military influence. I imagine DoD in Virginia's biggest employer.
(The pentagon, the Norfolk Yorktown Newport News defendoplex, Ft
Belvoir, AP Hill and a couple dozen other installations across the
state).

The Mason Dixon line has a right angle turn along the Deleware border.
It has nothing to do with north vs. south.

On Oct 2, 5:59*am, X ` Man wrote:



"DC might elect a crackhead mayor like Marion Barry, but it
wouldn't elect a crackpot governor or attorney general, as Virginia
did
the last go-around. "

Of course they would if they could, Krause. They can't because they
have no positions for Attorney General or Governor. Consistently re-
electing Marion Barry was proof positive that people in D.C. really
aren't very smart.

In article ,
says...

On 10/2/11 8:13 AM, BAR wrote:
In articleVPGdndQB5LxNXBrTnZ2dnUVZ_jEAAAAA@earthlink .com,
says...

On 10/1/11 8:50 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 01 Oct 2011 16:58:21 -0400, X `
wrote:

On 10/1/11 4:45 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 01 Oct 2011 13:06:20 -0400, X `
wrote:



States with the most executions since 1976:

Texas has had 475
Virginia, 109
Oklahoma, 96
Florida, 69
Missouri, 68
Alabama, 54
Georgia, 52
Ohio, 45
North Carolina, 43
South Carolina, 43
Louisiana, 28

Executions in large numbers are mostly a Southern thing. The government
of Missouri tried to secede. Oklahoma is as backwards a state as any of
those in the South.

Bloodthirsty. Fundamentalist. Executions.

If you toss Texas as the runaway "hang'm high" state the worst one on
the list is Virginia, far from a southern state. Most of the
population basically lives in the DC metro area. They are blue and
host the richest city (Falls Church) and the 2 richest counties
(Fairfax and Loudoun) in the US..
When you also factor in population, they are almost as bad as Texas
and blow out a state like Florida that has 2.5 times the population
and about 60% of the number of executions.
So much for the idea that this is just a terra cotta tooth redneck
thing.


Uh, Virginia *is* a Southern state. The capital of the confederacy was
in Richmond for most of the war. I agree that parts of Northern Virginia
are blue. Virginia, however, elected two right-wing crackpots this last
go-around as governor and attorney general. The states that execute the
most people are in the South, for the most part. Period. Progressive
states have few, if any, executions, regardless of population.

Virginia is basically DC. The civil war was a long time ago. Where you
live was tobacco plantations during the civil war.
Ohio was on your list and that is about as north as you can get. It is
right across the lake from Canada.


I said executions were "mostly" a southern thing. That would allow the
inclusion of Ohio.

I don't buy your posit on Virginia. It is still a southern state.

Always leaving yourself an out.




Only simpletons believe the world is black or white.

You always leave your self wiggle room Harry.

On 10/2/2011 8:16 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 10/2/11 8:13 AM, BAR wrote:
In articleVPGdndQB5LxNXBrTnZ2dnUVZ_jEAAAAA@earthlink .com,
says...

On 10/1/11 8:50 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 01 Oct 2011 16:58:21 -0400, X `
wrote:

On 10/1/11 4:45 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 01 Oct 2011 13:06:20 -0400, X `
wrote:



States with the most executions since 1976:

Texas has had 475
Virginia, 109
Oklahoma, 96
Florida, 69
Missouri, 68
Alabama, 54
Georgia, 52
Ohio, 45
North Carolina, 43
South Carolina, 43
Louisiana, 28

Executions in large numbers are mostly a Southern thing. The
government
of Missouri tried to secede. Oklahoma is as backwards a state as
any of
those in the South.

Bloodthirsty. Fundamentalist. Executions.

If you toss Texas as the runaway "hang'm high" state the worst one on
the list is Virginia, far from a southern state. Most of the
population basically lives in the DC metro area. They are blue and
host the richest city (Falls Church) and the 2 richest counties
(Fairfax and Loudoun) in the US..
When you also factor in population, they are almost as bad as Texas
and blow out a state like Florida that has 2.5 times the population
and about 60% of the number of executions.
So much for the idea that this is just a terra cotta tooth redneck
thing.


Uh, Virginia *is* a Southern state. The capital of the confederacy was
in Richmond for most of the war. I agree that parts of Northern
Virginia
are blue. Virginia, however, elected two right-wing crackpots this
last
go-around as governor and attorney general. The states that execute
the
most people are in the South, for the most part. Period. Progressive
states have few, if any, executions, regardless of population.

Virginia is basically DC. The civil war was a long time ago. Where you
live was tobacco plantations during the civil war.
Ohio was on your list and that is about as north as you can get. It is
right across the lake from Canada.


I said executions were "mostly" a southern thing. That would allow the
inclusion of Ohio.

I don't buy your posit on Virginia. It is still a southern state.

Always leaving yourself an out.




Only simpletons believe the world is black or white.


Like you're either progressive or a right wing conservatrash moron,
uneducated idiot.

Or an even better example. You adore O/bama or you are a racist.

Or you vote s straight democratic ticket no matter who the candidates.
(Saves a lot of investigating time)

You are against euthanasia/execution. Period! Assasination is OK though.

You are too funny * for words Krause (* odd)

On 10/2/2011 8:36 AM, BAR wrote:
In articleipSdnV3XmsK3yxXTnZ2dnUVZ_gSdnZ2d@earthlink .com,
says...

On 10/2/11 8:13 AM, BAR wrote:
In articleVPGdndQB5LxNXBrTnZ2dnUVZ_jEAAAAA@earthlink .com,
says...

On 10/1/11 8:50 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 01 Oct 2011 16:58:21 -0400, X `
wrote:

On 10/1/11 4:45 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 01 Oct 2011 13:06:20 -0400, X `
wrote:



States with the most executions since 1976:

Texas has had 475
Virginia, 109
Oklahoma, 96
Florida, 69
Missouri, 68
Alabama, 54
Georgia, 52
Ohio, 45
North Carolina, 43
South Carolina, 43
Louisiana, 28

Executions in large numbers are mostly a Southern thing. The government
of Missouri tried to secede. Oklahoma is as backwards a state as any of
those in the South.

Bloodthirsty. Fundamentalist. Executions.

If you toss Texas as the runaway "hang'm high" state the worst one on
the list is Virginia, far from a southern state. Most of the
population basically lives in the DC metro area. They are blue and
host the richest city (Falls Church) and the 2 richest counties
(Fairfax and Loudoun) in the US..
When you also factor in population, they are almost as bad as Texas
and blow out a state like Florida that has 2.5 times the population
and about 60% of the number of executions.
So much for the idea that this is just a terra cotta tooth redneck
thing.


Uh, Virginia *is* a Southern state. The capital of the confederacy was
in Richmond for most of the war. I agree that parts of Northern Virginia
are blue. Virginia, however, elected two right-wing crackpots this last
go-around as governor and attorney general. The states that execute the
most people are in the South, for the most part. Period. Progressive
states have few, if any, executions, regardless of population.

Virginia is basically DC. The civil war was a long time ago. Where you
live was tobacco plantations during the civil war.
Ohio was on your list and that is about as north as you can get. It is
right across the lake from Canada.


I said executions were "mostly" a southern thing. That would allow the
inclusion of Ohio.

I don't buy your posit on Virginia. It is still a southern state.

Always leaving yourself an out.




Only simpletons believe the world is black or white.

You always leave your self wiggle room Harry.

Snakes do that.

In article ,
says...

On 10/1/11 4:29 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 01 Oct 2011 11:33:02 -0400, X `
wrote:

You don't mean black, you mean poor don't you?

That may be true of your average criminal that ends up taking a plea
for jail time but when it becomes a capital case there has been plenty
of representation for these people for the last 40-50 years. Otherwise
you would not have a 20-30 year appeals process.

Personally I would like to see the appeals process speeded up. It is
not unusual that people eventually can be found innocent if you let a
case get this cold. Evidence disappears, witnesses die, memories fade
and it becomes a lot easier to get reasonable doubt, even for the most
guilty person.


There's an easy answer to eliminate doubt: eliminate capital punishment.


Then you bump up against the other questions I have asked and are yet
unanswered.

#1
Where is the proportionality if you get the same sentence for running
a pot farm and getting caught a couple times as you get for being a
professional killer with 20 bodies on you?

For that matter you can get life for running a stock scam, like
Bernie.

#2
What is the punishment for a lifer who keeps killing people in prison?

#3
Why shouldn't a robber just kill all of his victims? Fewer witnesses,
potentially the same punishment if he already has a record.


Countries more civilized than the United States have done away with
capital punishment.

You didn't answer the questions, as usual, coward.