On 13-Oct-2011, X ` Man wrote:

This ought to be interesting, he will have to take some time to research
his answer so he doesn't bury himself again though... So it will be a
while before he answers this one


When we shop, we look at the box or label for country of origin. If it
says "China," (meaning the PRC) and if there is an alternative made
almost anywhere else, we buy the alternative. Same with clothes...if the
country of manufacture says "China," we don't buy them.

No need to - much of the clothing sold in the junk stoes of your country say
they were produced in Viet Nam. Is your population really that mindless???
Guess so, considering the autos you buy.

On 13-Oct-2011, jps wrote:

Darwin was right.

China and India are already approaching equilibrium with the US when
you add freight, the pain of doing business overseas, the trouble with
communication, time to market, etc.

I'm looking forward to some trade restrictions in lieu of China's
manipulation of its currency. Maybe some toasters would be better off
sold to the Chinese. They eat toast, don't they?

China doesn't need toasters or anything else from the U.S., just people
willing to send their money to them, and you have 300 million people willing
and excited about doing just that.

On Thu, 13 Oct 2011 22:02:56 GMT, "Haywood Jablomie"
wrote:


On 13-Oct-2011, jps wrote:

OH, I forgot, there is a large growing group of
schlubs crushing cardboard and sending it to Chinese manufacturers so
they
can ship complex bu shoddy junk to you. Shame on you and your neighbors.
You
DO reap what you sew.

Not me, brother. Personally, apart from cars, I buy everything I can
from local, regional or US manufacturers, in that order.

I remain in high tech and I don't see anything coming out of China
that rivals what we do, unless they're copying our competitors, which
I wouldn't doubt.

So, you're still in the automobile business? What happens when the US
pushes the market towards electric? Will you still be in the game?

No, not the auto manufacturing business or supply base...that's half of what
it was 20 years ago and won't come back. Autos in the US will be
predominantly Asian based upon the populations propensity not to give a
flying F**K about their income opportunities. Electric's will be Asian or
Indian (Tata will have cars in the U.S. soon). Don't fight it - it's too
late, and a result of the populations buying (and voting) habits. The
rulers of the U.S. should take E Pluribus Unum off the national symbol and
replace it with "where's all my free ****?"

Americans just might surprise you once the message gets through..
They're still watching the boob tube thinking they'll be rich one day
but there's a wake up call coming. The occupy Wall Street is a pimple
that's grown into an outbreak and the message is being heard.

The only real change that can happen here that'd make a difference is
campaign finance reform and banning all forms of lobbying. That, and
a swift upper cut to every idiot who shells out money for cheap ****
from Walmart and Target.

I don't agree with the "where's all my free ****" assumption. We talk
about equal opportunity in the US but it's not there. We fund schools
but not on a level playing field. We have some of the best higher
education in the world but we're educating the world's kids instead of
our own. China is pumping out 3 times the number of engineering grads
while we argue about evolution and teaching creationism.

It's not the "give me something for free" that's killing us, it's the
wilfull ignorance of religion, lack of respect for education, trade
imbalances that have gone on too long, China taking advantage of it's
position with the US and keeping its currency artificially low, US
companies rushing to cheap labor markets for short term gains.

It's going to crash and maybe some people will start being honest.

So, you live in Singapore and sell wind turbines abroad.

On 10/13/2011 2:21 PM, jps wrote:

I never buy anything from Walmart, even tho' idiots here in the states
are addicted to the *******s. I've also curtailed any trips to Target
as it's nearly impossible to find anything that isn't made in China.

JPS buys direct from China, not through some middleman, like Walmart or
Target.

On 10/14/2011 2:56 AM, jps wrote:
On Thu, 13 Oct 2011 22:02:56 GMT, "Haywood Jablomie"
wrote:


On 13-Oct-2011, wrote:

OH, I forgot, there is a large growing group of
schlubs crushing cardboard and sending it to Chinese manufacturers so
they
can ship complex bu shoddy junk to you. Shame on you and your neighbors.
You
DO reap what you sew.

Not me, brother. Personally, apart from cars, I buy everything I can
from local, regional or US manufacturers, in that order.

I remain in high tech and I don't see anything coming out of China
that rivals what we do, unless they're copying our competitors, which
I wouldn't doubt.

So, you're still in the automobile business? What happens when the US
pushes the market towards electric? Will you still be in the game?

No, not the auto manufacturing business or supply base...that's half of what
it was 20 years ago and won't come back. Autos in the US will be
predominantly Asian based upon the populations propensity not to give a
flying F**K about their income opportunities. Electric's will be Asian or
Indian (Tata will have cars in the U.S. soon). Don't fight it - it's too
late, and a result of the populations buying (and voting) habits. The
rulers of the U.S. should take E Pluribus Unum off the national symbol and
replace it with "where's all my free ****?"

Americans just might surprise you once the message gets through..
They're still watching the boob tube thinking they'll be rich one day
but there's a wake up call coming. The occupy Wall Street is a pimple
that's grown into an outbreak and the message is being heard.

The only real change that can happen here that'd make a difference is
campaign finance reform and banning all forms of lobbying. That, and
a swift upper cut to every idiot who shells out money for cheap ****
from Walmart and Target.

I don't agree with the "where's all my free ****" assumption. We talk
about equal opportunity in the US but it's not there. We fund schools
but not on a level playing field. We have some of the best higher
education in the world but we're educating the world's kids instead of
our own. China is pumping out 3 times the number of engineering grads
while we argue about evolution and teaching creationism.

It's not the "give me something for free" that's killing us, it's the
wilfull ignorance of religion, lack of respect for education, trade
imbalances that have gone on too long, China taking advantage of it's
position with the US and keeping its currency artificially low, US
companies rushing to cheap labor markets for short term gains.

It's going to crash and maybe some people will start being honest.

So, you live in Singapore and sell wind turbines abroad.

"Where's all my free ****" is a natural response to unkept campaign
promises. Thanks to our Robinhood in reverse. Mostly, you are correct in
your assumptions, though.

On 10/14/2011 7:58 AM, Danny wrote:
On 10/13/2011 2:21 PM, jps wrote:

I never buy anything from Walmart, even tho' idiots here in the states
are addicted to the *******s. I've also curtailed any trips to Target
as it's nearly impossible to find anything that isn't made in China.

JPS buys direct from China, not through some middleman, like Walmart or
Target.

I'm still wondering where JPS and Krause do their shopping. There aren't
a lot of major retailers to choose from.

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On 10/13/11 3:07 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 10/13/2011 3:05 PM, Drifter wrote:
On 10/13/2011 2:21 PM, jps wrote:
On Thu, 13 Oct 2011 17:44:43 GMT, "Haywood Jablomie"
wrote:


On 13-Oct-2011, wrote:

Your state and federal government confiscate your income for ventures
with
no demand, and at premium prices. YOU pay for the boondoggles, not
"the
government. How difficult is that to grasp?

Oh, so the products you're selling to my government (local, state or
federal) are a boondoggle?

YES!


You say the USA is going down and appear to lament that claim but
you're pleased to make a profit on it?

Lament the status? No, I don't, I DID 5 or 6 years ago. I saw that the
trend was irreversible, so I adapted to your population's behavior. You
don't give a flying rats ass; why would I??

I never buy anything from Walmart, even tho' idiots here in the states
are addicted to the *******s. I've also curtailed any trips to Target
as it's nearly impossible to find anything that isn't made in China.

"Your population's behavior," so you've given up your citizenship to
become a Chinese citizen. What country issued the passport you use to
travel with?

Where does a patriot such as yourself shop?

This ought to be interesting, he will have to take some time to research
his answer so he doesn't bury himself again though... So it will be a
while before he answers this one


When we shop, we look at the box or label for country of origin. If it
says "China," (meaning the PRC) and if there is an alternative made
almost anywhere else, we buy the alternative. Same with clothes...if the
country of manufacture says "China," we don't buy them.

Let's see, Husqvarna lawnmower, alleged Ducati, alleged Kawasaki, and a
Toyota SUV. A boat with a Yamaha motor, apple products that are linked
to a factory in China that is so horrible they had to install catch nets
for people jumping to their death.

On 10/14/2011 8:54 AM, Drifter wrote:


It's not the "give me something for free" that's killing us, it's the
wilfull ignorance of religion...

non sequitur... You have a deep hate for Christianity, it clouds your
judgement. You should really get over whatever it is that happened to
you to make you this way..


lack of respect for education, trade
imbalances that have gone on too long, China taking advantage of it's
position with the US and keeping its currency artificially low, US
companies rushing to cheap labor markets for short term gains.

It's going to crash and maybe some people will start being honest.

So, you live in Singapore and sell wind turbines abroad.

"Where's all my free ****" is a natural response to unkept campaign
promises. Thanks to our Robinhood in reverse. Mostly, you are correct in
your assumptions, though.

On 10/14/2011 9:39 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In articlerPKdnSC2C41tqgrTnZ2dnUVZ_sSdnZ2d@earthlink .com,
says...

On 10/13/11 3:07 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 10/13/2011 3:05 PM, Drifter wrote:
On 10/13/2011 2:21 PM, jps wrote:
On Thu, 13 Oct 2011 17:44:43 GMT, "Haywood Jablomie"
wrote:


On 13-Oct-2011, wrote:

Your state and federal government confiscate your income for ventures
with
no demand, and at premium prices. YOU pay for the boondoggles, not
"the
government. How difficult is that to grasp?

Oh, so the products you're selling to my government (local, state or
federal) are a boondoggle?

YES!


You say the USA is going down and appear to lament that claim but
you're pleased to make a profit on it?

Lament the status? No, I don't, I DID 5 or 6 years ago. I saw that the
trend was irreversible, so I adapted to your population's behavior. You
don't give a flying rats ass; why would I??

I never buy anything from Walmart, even tho' idiots here in the states
are addicted to the *******s. I've also curtailed any trips to Target
as it's nearly impossible to find anything that isn't made in China.

"Your population's behavior," so you've given up your citizenship to
become a Chinese citizen. What country issued the passport you use to
travel with?

Where does a patriot such as yourself shop?

This ought to be interesting, he will have to take some time to research
his answer so he doesn't bury himself again though... So it will be a
while before he answers this one


When we shop, we look at the box or label for country of origin. If it
says "China," (meaning the PRC) and if there is an alternative made
almost anywhere else, we buy the alternative. Same with clothes...if the
country of manufacture says "China," we don't buy them.

Let's see, Husqvarna lawnmower, alleged Ducati, alleged Kawasaki, and a
Toyota SUV. A boat with a Yamaha motor, apple products that are linked
to a factory in China that is so horrible they had to install catch nets
for people jumping to their death.

For some reason regressives think everyone else should live by rules
they don't have to... Look at the **** stained masses living down in
NYC, bet their parents (who are footing the bill for their dope and
party) would be pretty ****ed if the astroturf came and **** all over
their lawn.. I guess most are just happy to have the leeches out of the
house for a few weeks...

On 10/14/2011 8:56 AM, Drifter wrote:
On 10/14/2011 7:58 AM, Danny wrote:
On 10/13/2011 2:21 PM, jps wrote:

I never buy anything from Walmart, even tho' idiots here in the states
are addicted to the *******s. I've also curtailed any trips to Target
as it's nearly impossible to find anything that isn't made in China.

JPS buys direct from China, not through some middleman, like Walmart or
Target.

I'm still wondering where JPS and Krause do their shopping. There aren't
a lot of major retailers to choose from.

The do it the same place every other American does... They just expect
more out of us than themselves... It's the fleabagger way.