In article ,
says...

On 10/12/2011 1:58 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In articlee590be34-39ea-4733-b621-6aaa01518778
@y12g2000prh.googlegroups.com, says...

On Oct 12, 9:54 am, wrote:
North Carolina:

North Carolina General Statute 15-190 identifies the people who may be
present at an execution. It provides that prison staff, official
witnesses, members of the victim?s family and representatives of the
convicted felon be present. Space limitations in the witness room
restrict the number of witnesses to 16.

The statute defines the prison staff as the warden or deputy warden, or
some person designated by the warden in his place and the surgeon or
physician of the penitentiary.

The statute also provides for four respectable citizens to serve as
official witnesses. The district attorney of the county of conviction
and the sheriff of the county of conviction each select two official
witnesses.

Members of the inmate?s family, the inmate?s counsel and a minister or
clergy member of the inmate?s choosing may also be present. At least one
week before the execution, the warden will ask the prisoner about these
witnesses.

Amendments in 1997 gave the crime victim?s family the right to witness
the execution. The two members of the victim?s family will be
recommended by the district attorney of the county of conviction.

If there is more than one victim in the capital case, the warden will
ask the district attorney and/or the sheriff of the county of conviction
to recommend two members from each additional victim?s family.

If a victim?s family does not wish to witness, the district attorney may
appoint additional witnesses to fill those seats.

The view from the witness room.

Five media witnesses are selected to witness the execution and then
brief other reporters on what they saw. Media witnesses and alternates
are selected by the North Carolina Press Association (NCPA), the
Radio/TV News Directors Association of the Carolinas (RTNDAC) and the
Associated Press. NCPA and RTNDAC each select two witnesses and two
alternates. The Associated Press selects one witness and one alternate.
Media witnesses are subject to the approval of the Secretary of
Correction. Alternates serve when a media witness is not available.

Mississippi:

There was disquiet about the semi-public execution of Luther Wheeler
which was witnessed by some 400 people and took place in the Forrest
County courthouse on February 5th 1954

Texas

In the afternoon, witnesses for the condemned and witnesses for the
victims arrive in separate waiting rooms near the death chamber. A state
employee counsels victims' witnesses regarding what they are about to
see. Meanwhile, prison officials and approved media witnesses gather in
the TDCJ administration building to await confirmation that the
execution is going to proceed as scheduled. The state allows five media
witnesses at each execution, and three of the seats are permanently
allocated to the Associated Press, United Press International, and the
Huntsville Item.

I could go on, but I think my point is made.

You point was the executions are done for entertainment. Your point
was not addressed above, your article is irrelevant to your
argument.... But do twist some more...

Nope, my point was that the executions are attended by spectators and
they are. YOU said they weren't.

You said "entertainment" period...

Nope, you are lying.

On 10/12/2011 3:42 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In ,
says...

On 10/12/2011 1:58 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In articlee590be34-39ea-4733-b621-6aaa01518778
@y12g2000prh.googlegroups.com, says...

On Oct 12, 9:54 am, wrote:
North Carolina:

North Carolina General Statute 15-190 identifies the people who may be
present at an execution. It provides that prison staff, official
witnesses, members of the victim?s family and representatives of the
convicted felon be present. Space limitations in the witness room
restrict the number of witnesses to 16.

The statute defines the prison staff as the warden or deputy warden, or
some person designated by the warden in his place and the surgeon or
physician of the penitentiary.

The statute also provides for four respectable citizens to serve as
official witnesses. The district attorney of the county of conviction
and the sheriff of the county of conviction each select two official
witnesses.

Members of the inmate?s family, the inmate?s counsel and a minister or
clergy member of the inmate?s choosing may also be present. At least one
week before the execution, the warden will ask the prisoner about these
witnesses.

Amendments in 1997 gave the crime victim?s family the right to witness
the execution. The two members of the victim?s family will be
recommended by the district attorney of the county of conviction.

If there is more than one victim in the capital case, the warden will
ask the district attorney and/or the sheriff of the county of conviction
to recommend two members from each additional victim?s family.

If a victim?s family does not wish to witness, the district attorney may
appoint additional witnesses to fill those seats.

The view from the witness room.

Five media witnesses are selected to witness the execution and then
brief other reporters on what they saw. Media witnesses and alternates
are selected by the North Carolina Press Association (NCPA), the
Radio/TV News Directors Association of the Carolinas (RTNDAC) and the
Associated Press. NCPA and RTNDAC each select two witnesses and two
alternates. The Associated Press selects one witness and one alternate.
Media witnesses are subject to the approval of the Secretary of
Correction. Alternates serve when a media witness is not available.

Mississippi:

There was disquiet about the semi-public execution of Luther Wheeler
which was witnessed by some 400 people and took place in the Forrest
County courthouse on February 5th 1954

Texas

In the afternoon, witnesses for the condemned and witnesses for the
victims arrive in separate waiting rooms near the death chamber. A state
employee counsels victims' witnesses regarding what they are about to
see. Meanwhile, prison officials and approved media witnesses gather in
the TDCJ administration building to await confirmation that the
execution is going to proceed as scheduled. The state allows five media
witnesses at each execution, and three of the seats are permanently
allocated to the Associated Press, United Press International, and the
Huntsville Item.

I could go on, but I think my point is made.

You point was the executions are done for entertainment. Your point
was not addressed above, your article is irrelevant to your
argument.... But do twist some more...

Nope, my point was that the executions are attended by spectators and
they are. YOU said they weren't.

You said "entertainment" period...

Nope, you are lying.


**** you, you said they were for "entertainment".. That's what we were
arguing about until you realized you were wrong, then you changed your
tune...

On 10/12/2011 3:24 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 12/10/2011 12:17 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 10/12/2011 2:01 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In ,
says...

On 12/10/2011 7:54 AM, iBoaterer wrote:

North Carolina:

North Carolina General Statute 15-190 identifies the people who may be
present at an execution. It provides that prison staff, official
witnesses, members of the victim?s family and representatives of the
convicted felon be present. Space limitations in the witness room
restrict the number of witnesses to 16.

The statute defines the prison staff as the warden or deputy
warden, or
some person designated by the warden in his place and the surgeon or
physician of the penitentiary.

The statute also provides for four respectable citizens to serve as
official witnesses. The district attorney of the county of conviction
and the sheriff of the county of conviction each select two official
witnesses.

Members of the inmate?s family, the inmate?s counsel and a minister or
clergy member of the inmate?s choosing may also be present. At least
one
week before the execution, the warden will ask the prisoner about
these
witnesses.

Amendments in 1997 gave the crime victim?s family the right to witness
the execution. The two members of the victim?s family will be
recommended by the district attorney of the county of conviction.

If there is more than one victim in the capital case, the warden will
ask the district attorney and/or the sheriff of the county of
conviction
to recommend two members from each additional victim?s family.

If a victim?s family does not wish to witness, the district attorney
may
appoint additional witnesses to fill those seats.

The view from the witness room.


Five media witnesses are selected to witness the execution and then
brief other reporters on what they saw. Media witnesses and alternates
are selected by the North Carolina Press Association (NCPA), the
Radio/TV News Directors Association of the Carolinas (RTNDAC) and the
Associated Press. NCPA and RTNDAC each select two witnesses and two
alternates. The Associated Press selects one witness and one
alternate.
Media witnesses are subject to the approval of the Secretary of
Correction. Alternates serve when a media witness is not available.

Mississippi:

There was disquiet about the semi-public execution of Luther Wheeler
which was witnessed by some 400 people and took place in the Forrest
County courthouse on February 5th 1954

Texas

In the afternoon, witnesses for the condemned and witnesses for the
victims arrive in separate waiting rooms near the death chamber. A
state
employee counsels victims' witnesses regarding what they are about to
see. Meanwhile, prison officials and approved media witnesses
gather in
the TDCJ administration building to await confirmation that the
execution is going to proceed as scheduled. The state allows five
media
witnesses at each execution, and three of the seats are permanently
allocated to the Associated Press, United Press International, and the
Huntsville Item.

I could go on, but I think my point is made.

So your point? Is it that these states prevent even the possibility of
repeat offenses from those that are really bad people? Less victims?

My point is that executions always have, and always will be a spectator
show. That's how executions are supposed to work, it's the core of the
practice. It's how it's supposed to deter crime. If the people watch and
know that if they do the same, that's what they will get. It's really
very simple to understand, I don't know why Scott doesn't get it.

Because you said "entertainment" not deterrent... You can't change horse
mid stream and expect not to get called on it.

It is a deterrent. Dead people commit no more crime. The deterrent is
absolute prevention. Might not rub off on others, maybe, maybe not but
the dead do not repeat offend in or out of jail.

Sure it it, but he was arguing that it was "entertainment" and I said
no... Now he has changed his tune. It's what this guy has been doing for
years. No matter how many times you prove he is wrong, he just keeps
moving the bar around till it comes full circle...

On Oct 12, 3:42*pm, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...











On 10/12/2011 1:58 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In articlee590be34-39ea-4733-b621-6aaa01518778
@y12g2000prh.googlegroups.com, says....

On Oct 12, 9:54 am, *wrote:
North Carolina:

North Carolina General Statute 15-190 identifies the people who may be
present at an execution. It provides that prison staff, official
witnesses, members of the victim?s family and representatives of the
convicted felon be present. Space limitations in the witness room
restrict the number of witnesses to 16.

The statute defines the prison staff as the warden or deputy warden, or
some person designated by the warden in his place and the surgeon or
physician of the penitentiary.

The statute also provides for four respectable citizens to serve as
official witnesses. The district attorney of the county of conviction
and the sheriff of the county of conviction each select two official
witnesses.

Members of the inmate?s family, the inmate?s counsel and a minister or
clergy member of the inmate?s choosing may also be present. At least one
week before the execution, the warden will ask the prisoner about these
witnesses.

Amendments in 1997 gave the crime victim?s family the right to witness
the execution. The two members of the victim?s family will be
recommended by the district attorney of the county of conviction.

If there is more than one victim in the capital case, the warden will
ask the district attorney and/or the sheriff of the county of conviction
to recommend two members from each additional victim?s family.

If a victim?s family does not wish to witness, the district attorney may
appoint additional witnesses to fill those seats.

The view from the witness room.

Five media witnesses are selected to witness the execution and then
brief other reporters on what they saw. Media witnesses and alternates
are selected by the North Carolina Press Association (NCPA), the
Radio/TV News Directors Association of the Carolinas (RTNDAC) and the
Associated Press. NCPA and RTNDAC each select two witnesses and two
alternates. The Associated Press selects one witness and one alternate.
Media witnesses are subject to the approval of the Secretary of
Correction. Alternates serve when a media witness is not available.

Mississippi:

There was disquiet about the semi-public execution of Luther Wheeler
which was witnessed by some 400 people and took place in the Forrest
County courthouse on February 5th 1954

Texas

In the afternoon, witnesses for the condemned and witnesses for the
victims arrive in separate waiting rooms near the death chamber. A state
employee counsels victims' witnesses regarding what they are about to
see. Meanwhile, prison officials and approved media witnesses gather in
the TDCJ administration building to await confirmation that the
execution is going to proceed as scheduled. The state allows five media
witnesses at each execution, and three of the seats are permanently
allocated to the Associated Press, United Press International, and the
Huntsville Item.

I could go on, but I think my point is made.

You point was the executions are done for entertainment. Your point
was not addressed above, your article is irrelevant to your
argument.... But do twist some more...

Nope, my point was that the executions are attended by spectators and
they are. YOU said they weren't.

You said "entertainment" period...

Nope, you are lying.

OMG!!!!! Do you not know that EVERY time a man is put to death it is a
media circus????? Troy Davis was just in the national spotlight:


Here is one of your quotes... There are more in the thread, just go
look..

On 10/12/11 6:12 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 10/12/2011 3:24 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 12/10/2011 12:17 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 10/12/2011 2:01 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In ,
says...

On 12/10/2011 7:54 AM, iBoaterer wrote:

North Carolina:

North Carolina General Statute 15-190 identifies the people who
may be
present at an execution. It provides that prison staff, official
witnesses, members of the victim?s family and representatives of the
convicted felon be present. Space limitations in the witness room
restrict the number of witnesses to 16.

The statute defines the prison staff as the warden or deputy
warden, or
some person designated by the warden in his place and the surgeon or
physician of the penitentiary.

The statute also provides for four respectable citizens to serve as
official witnesses. The district attorney of the county of conviction
and the sheriff of the county of conviction each select two official
witnesses.

Members of the inmate?s family, the inmate?s counsel and a
minister or
clergy member of the inmate?s choosing may also be present. At least
one
week before the execution, the warden will ask the prisoner about
these
witnesses.

Amendments in 1997 gave the crime victim?s family the right to
witness
the execution. The two members of the victim?s family will be
recommended by the district attorney of the county of conviction.

If there is more than one victim in the capital case, the warden will
ask the district attorney and/or the sheriff of the county of
conviction
to recommend two members from each additional victim?s family.

If a victim?s family does not wish to witness, the district attorney
may
appoint additional witnesses to fill those seats.

The view from the witness room.


Five media witnesses are selected to witness the execution and then
brief other reporters on what they saw. Media witnesses and
alternates
are selected by the North Carolina Press Association (NCPA), the
Radio/TV News Directors Association of the Carolinas (RTNDAC) and the
Associated Press. NCPA and RTNDAC each select two witnesses and two
alternates. The Associated Press selects one witness and one
alternate.
Media witnesses are subject to the approval of the Secretary of
Correction. Alternates serve when a media witness is not available.

Mississippi:

There was disquiet about the semi-public execution of Luther Wheeler
which was witnessed by some 400 people and took place in the Forrest
County courthouse on February 5th 1954

Texas

In the afternoon, witnesses for the condemned and witnesses for the
victims arrive in separate waiting rooms near the death chamber. A
state
employee counsels victims' witnesses regarding what they are about to
see. Meanwhile, prison officials and approved media witnesses
gather in
the TDCJ administration building to await confirmation that the
execution is going to proceed as scheduled. The state allows five
media
witnesses at each execution, and three of the seats are permanently
allocated to the Associated Press, United Press International, and
the
Huntsville Item.

I could go on, but I think my point is made.

So your point? Is it that these states prevent even the possibility of
repeat offenses from those that are really bad people? Less victims?

My point is that executions always have, and always will be a spectator
show. That's how executions are supposed to work, it's the core of the
practice. It's how it's supposed to deter crime. If the people watch
and
know that if they do the same, that's what they will get. It's really
very simple to understand, I don't know why Scott doesn't get it.

Because you said "entertainment" not deterrent... You can't change horse
mid stream and expect not to get called on it.

It is a deterrent. Dead people commit no more crime. The deterrent is
absolute prevention. Might not rub off on others, maybe, maybe not but
the dead do not repeat offend in or out of jail.

Sure it it, but he was arguing that it was "entertainment" and I said
no... Now he has changed his tune. It's what this guy has been doing for
years. No matter how many times you prove he is wrong, he just keeps
moving the bar around till it comes full circle...

Of course it is entertainment. Every time a black guy is put to death,
tens of millions of southern white racists get a woody and terrorize the
cows and sheep.

They love their executions.

On 12/10/2011 4:28 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 10/12/11 6:12 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 10/12/2011 3:24 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 12/10/2011 12:17 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 10/12/2011 2:01 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In ,
says...

On 12/10/2011 7:54 AM, iBoaterer wrote:

North Carolina:

North Carolina General Statute 15-190 identifies the people who
may be
present at an execution. It provides that prison staff, official
witnesses, members of the victim?s family and representatives of the
convicted felon be present. Space limitations in the witness room
restrict the number of witnesses to 16.

The statute defines the prison staff as the warden or deputy
warden, or
some person designated by the warden in his place and the surgeon or
physician of the penitentiary.

The statute also provides for four respectable citizens to serve as
official witnesses. The district attorney of the county of
conviction
and the sheriff of the county of conviction each select two official
witnesses.

Members of the inmate?s family, the inmate?s counsel and a
minister or
clergy member of the inmate?s choosing may also be present. At least
one
week before the execution, the warden will ask the prisoner about
these
witnesses.

Amendments in 1997 gave the crime victim?s family the right to
witness
the execution. The two members of the victim?s family will be
recommended by the district attorney of the county of conviction.

If there is more than one victim in the capital case, the warden
will
ask the district attorney and/or the sheriff of the county of
conviction
to recommend two members from each additional victim?s family.

If a victim?s family does not wish to witness, the district attorney
may
appoint additional witnesses to fill those seats.

The view from the witness room.


Five media witnesses are selected to witness the execution and then
brief other reporters on what they saw. Media witnesses and
alternates
are selected by the North Carolina Press Association (NCPA), the
Radio/TV News Directors Association of the Carolinas (RTNDAC) and
the
Associated Press. NCPA and RTNDAC each select two witnesses and two
alternates. The Associated Press selects one witness and one
alternate.
Media witnesses are subject to the approval of the Secretary of
Correction. Alternates serve when a media witness is not available.

Mississippi:

There was disquiet about the semi-public execution of Luther Wheeler
which was witnessed by some 400 people and took place in the Forrest
County courthouse on February 5th 1954

Texas

In the afternoon, witnesses for the condemned and witnesses for the
victims arrive in separate waiting rooms near the death chamber. A
state
employee counsels victims' witnesses regarding what they are
about to
see. Meanwhile, prison officials and approved media witnesses
gather in
the TDCJ administration building to await confirmation that the
execution is going to proceed as scheduled. The state allows five
media
witnesses at each execution, and three of the seats are permanently
allocated to the Associated Press, United Press International, and
the
Huntsville Item.

I could go on, but I think my point is made.

So your point? Is it that these states prevent even the
possibility of
repeat offenses from those that are really bad people? Less victims?

My point is that executions always have, and always will be a
spectator
show. That's how executions are supposed to work, it's the core of the
practice. It's how it's supposed to deter crime. If the people watch
and
know that if they do the same, that's what they will get. It's really
very simple to understand, I don't know why Scott doesn't get it.

Because you said "entertainment" not deterrent... You can't change
horse
mid stream and expect not to get called on it.

It is a deterrent. Dead people commit no more crime. The deterrent is
absolute prevention. Might not rub off on others, maybe, maybe not but
the dead do not repeat offend in or out of jail.

Sure it it, but he was arguing that it was "entertainment" and I said
no... Now he has changed his tune. It's what this guy has been doing for
years. No matter how many times you prove he is wrong, he just keeps
moving the bar around till it comes full circle...

Of course it is entertainment. Every time a black guy is put to death,
tens of millions of southern white racists get a woody and terrorize the
cows and sheep.

They love their executions.

So are you suggesting we only hang white people. Oh my, no surprise
though, you are a racist.

I like it simple, murder, 2 & 3 time violent losers, perpetual offenders
any, any skin color, line them up.
--
Eat the rich, screw the companies and wonder why there are no jobs. But
we have big huge government we can't afford...
-- Obama and the lefty fleabagger attitude

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On Oct 12, 3:42*pm, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...











On 10/12/2011 1:58 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In articlee590be34-39ea-4733-b621-6aaa01518778
@y12g2000prh.googlegroups.com, says...

On Oct 12, 9:54 am, *wrote:
North Carolina:

North Carolina General Statute 15-190 identifies the people who may be
present at an execution. It provides that prison staff, official
witnesses, members of the victim?s family and representatives of the
convicted felon be present. Space limitations in the witness room
restrict the number of witnesses to 16.

The statute defines the prison staff as the warden or deputy warden, or
some person designated by the warden in his place and the surgeon or
physician of the penitentiary.

The statute also provides for four respectable citizens to serve as
official witnesses. The district attorney of the county of conviction
and the sheriff of the county of conviction each select two official
witnesses.

Members of the inmate?s family, the inmate?s counsel and a minister or
clergy member of the inmate?s choosing may also be present. At least one
week before the execution, the warden will ask the prisoner about these
witnesses.

Amendments in 1997 gave the crime victim?s family the right to witness
the execution. The two members of the victim?s family will be
recommended by the district attorney of the county of conviction.

If there is more than one victim in the capital case, the warden will
ask the district attorney and/or the sheriff of the county of conviction
to recommend two members from each additional victim?s family.

If a victim?s family does not wish to witness, the district attorney may
appoint additional witnesses to fill those seats.

The view from the witness room.

Five media witnesses are selected to witness the execution and then
brief other reporters on what they saw. Media witnesses and alternates
are selected by the North Carolina Press Association (NCPA), the
Radio/TV News Directors Association of the Carolinas (RTNDAC) and the
Associated Press. NCPA and RTNDAC each select two witnesses and two
alternates. The Associated Press selects one witness and one alternate.
Media witnesses are subject to the approval of the Secretary of
Correction. Alternates serve when a media witness is not available.

Mississippi:

There was disquiet about the semi-public execution of Luther Wheeler
which was witnessed by some 400 people and took place in the Forrest
County courthouse on February 5th 1954

Texas

In the afternoon, witnesses for the condemned and witnesses for the
victims arrive in separate waiting rooms near the death chamber. A state
employee counsels victims' witnesses regarding what they are about to
see. Meanwhile, prison officials and approved media witnesses gather in
the TDCJ administration building to await confirmation that the
execution is going to proceed as scheduled. The state allows five media
witnesses at each execution, and three of the seats are permanently
allocated to the Associated Press, United Press International, and the
Huntsville Item.

I could go on, but I think my point is made.

You point was the executions are done for entertainment. Your point
was not addressed above, your article is irrelevant to your
argument.... But do twist some more...

Nope, my point was that the executions are attended by spectators and
they are. YOU said they weren't.

You said "entertainment" period...

Nope, you are lying.

OMG!!!!! Do you not know that EVERY time a man is put to death it is a
media circus????? Troy Davis was just in the national spotlight:


Here is one of your quotes... There are more in the thread, just go
look..

Where did I say that executions are for entertainment?

In article ,
says...

On 10/12/2011 3:42 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In ,
says...

On 10/12/2011 1:58 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In articlee590be34-39ea-4733-b621-6aaa01518778
@y12g2000prh.googlegroups.com, says...

On Oct 12, 9:54 am, wrote:
North Carolina:

North Carolina General Statute 15-190 identifies the people who may be
present at an execution. It provides that prison staff, official
witnesses, members of the victim?s family and representatives of the
convicted felon be present. Space limitations in the witness room
restrict the number of witnesses to 16.

The statute defines the prison staff as the warden or deputy warden, or
some person designated by the warden in his place and the surgeon or
physician of the penitentiary.

The statute also provides for four respectable citizens to serve as
official witnesses. The district attorney of the county of conviction
and the sheriff of the county of conviction each select two official
witnesses.

Members of the inmate?s family, the inmate?s counsel and a minister or
clergy member of the inmate?s choosing may also be present. At least one
week before the execution, the warden will ask the prisoner about these
witnesses.

Amendments in 1997 gave the crime victim?s family the right to witness
the execution. The two members of the victim?s family will be
recommended by the district attorney of the county of conviction.

If there is more than one victim in the capital case, the warden will
ask the district attorney and/or the sheriff of the county of conviction
to recommend two members from each additional victim?s family.

If a victim?s family does not wish to witness, the district attorney may
appoint additional witnesses to fill those seats.

The view from the witness room.

Five media witnesses are selected to witness the execution and then
brief other reporters on what they saw. Media witnesses and alternates
are selected by the North Carolina Press Association (NCPA), the
Radio/TV News Directors Association of the Carolinas (RTNDAC) and the
Associated Press. NCPA and RTNDAC each select two witnesses and two
alternates. The Associated Press selects one witness and one alternate.
Media witnesses are subject to the approval of the Secretary of
Correction. Alternates serve when a media witness is not available.

Mississippi:

There was disquiet about the semi-public execution of Luther Wheeler
which was witnessed by some 400 people and took place in the Forrest
County courthouse on February 5th 1954

Texas

In the afternoon, witnesses for the condemned and witnesses for the
victims arrive in separate waiting rooms near the death chamber. A state
employee counsels victims' witnesses regarding what they are about to
see. Meanwhile, prison officials and approved media witnesses gather in
the TDCJ administration building to await confirmation that the
execution is going to proceed as scheduled. The state allows five media
witnesses at each execution, and three of the seats are permanently
allocated to the Associated Press, United Press International, and the
Huntsville Item.

I could go on, but I think my point is made.

You point was the executions are done for entertainment. Your point
was not addressed above, your article is irrelevant to your
argument.... But do twist some more...

Nope, my point was that the executions are attended by spectators and
they are. YOU said they weren't.

You said "entertainment" period...

Nope, you are lying.


**** you, you said they were for "entertainment".. That's what we were
arguing about until you realized you were wrong, then you changed your
tune...

Please show me the quote where I said executions were for entertainment.

In article ,
says...

On 10/12/2011 3:24 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 12/10/2011 12:17 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 10/12/2011 2:01 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In ,
says...

On 12/10/2011 7:54 AM, iBoaterer wrote:

North Carolina:

North Carolina General Statute 15-190 identifies the people who may be
present at an execution. It provides that prison staff, official
witnesses, members of the victim?s family and representatives of the
convicted felon be present. Space limitations in the witness room
restrict the number of witnesses to 16.

The statute defines the prison staff as the warden or deputy
warden, or
some person designated by the warden in his place and the surgeon or
physician of the penitentiary.

The statute also provides for four respectable citizens to serve as
official witnesses. The district attorney of the county of conviction
and the sheriff of the county of conviction each select two official
witnesses.

Members of the inmate?s family, the inmate?s counsel and a minister or
clergy member of the inmate?s choosing may also be present. At least
one
week before the execution, the warden will ask the prisoner about
these
witnesses.

Amendments in 1997 gave the crime victim?s family the right to witness
the execution. The two members of the victim?s family will be
recommended by the district attorney of the county of conviction.

If there is more than one victim in the capital case, the warden will
ask the district attorney and/or the sheriff of the county of
conviction
to recommend two members from each additional victim?s family.

If a victim?s family does not wish to witness, the district attorney
may
appoint additional witnesses to fill those seats.

The view from the witness room.


Five media witnesses are selected to witness the execution and then
brief other reporters on what they saw. Media witnesses and alternates
are selected by the North Carolina Press Association (NCPA), the
Radio/TV News Directors Association of the Carolinas (RTNDAC) and the
Associated Press. NCPA and RTNDAC each select two witnesses and two
alternates. The Associated Press selects one witness and one
alternate.
Media witnesses are subject to the approval of the Secretary of
Correction. Alternates serve when a media witness is not available.

Mississippi:

There was disquiet about the semi-public execution of Luther Wheeler
which was witnessed by some 400 people and took place in the Forrest
County courthouse on February 5th 1954

Texas

In the afternoon, witnesses for the condemned and witnesses for the
victims arrive in separate waiting rooms near the death chamber. A
state
employee counsels victims' witnesses regarding what they are about to
see. Meanwhile, prison officials and approved media witnesses
gather in
the TDCJ administration building to await confirmation that the
execution is going to proceed as scheduled. The state allows five
media
witnesses at each execution, and three of the seats are permanently
allocated to the Associated Press, United Press International, and the
Huntsville Item.

I could go on, but I think my point is made.

So your point? Is it that these states prevent even the possibility of
repeat offenses from those that are really bad people? Less victims?

My point is that executions always have, and always will be a spectator
show. That's how executions are supposed to work, it's the core of the
practice. It's how it's supposed to deter crime. If the people watch and
know that if they do the same, that's what they will get. It's really
very simple to understand, I don't know why Scott doesn't get it.

Because you said "entertainment" not deterrent... You can't change horse
mid stream and expect not to get called on it.

It is a deterrent. Dead people commit no more crime. The deterrent is
absolute prevention. Might not rub off on others, maybe, maybe not but
the dead do not repeat offend in or out of jail.

Sure it it, but he was arguing that it was "entertainment" and I said
no... Now he has changed his tune. It's what this guy has been doing for
years. No matter how many times you prove he is wrong, he just keeps
moving the bar around till it comes full circle...

You are lying. I never said executions were for entertainment.

On Oct 13, 8:58*am, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...











On 10/12/2011 3:24 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 12/10/2011 12:17 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 10/12/2011 2:01 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In ,
says...

On 12/10/2011 7:54 AM, iBoaterer wrote:

North Carolina:

North Carolina General Statute 15-190 identifies the people who may be
present at an execution. It provides that prison staff, official
witnesses, members of the victim?s family and representatives of the
convicted felon be present. Space limitations in the witness room
restrict the number of witnesses to 16.

The statute defines the prison staff as the warden or deputy
warden, or
some person designated by the warden in his place and the surgeon or
physician of the penitentiary.

The statute also provides for four respectable citizens to serve as
official witnesses. The district attorney of the county of conviction
and the sheriff of the county of conviction each select two official
witnesses.

Members of the inmate?s family, the inmate?s counsel and a minister or
clergy member of the inmate?s choosing may also be present. At least
one
week before the execution, the warden will ask the prisoner about
these
witnesses.

Amendments in 1997 gave the crime victim?s family the right to witness
the execution. The two members of the victim?s family will be
recommended by the district attorney of the county of conviction.

If there is more than one victim in the capital case, the warden will
ask the district attorney and/or the sheriff of the county of
conviction
to recommend two members from each additional victim?s family.

If a victim?s family does not wish to witness, the district attorney
may
appoint additional witnesses to fill those seats.

The view from the witness room.

Five media witnesses are selected to witness the execution and then
brief other reporters on what they saw. Media witnesses and alternates
are selected by the North Carolina Press Association (NCPA), the
Radio/TV News Directors Association of the Carolinas (RTNDAC) and the
Associated Press. NCPA and RTNDAC each select two witnesses and two
alternates. The Associated Press selects one witness and one
alternate.
Media witnesses are subject to the approval of the Secretary of
Correction. Alternates serve when a media witness is not available.

Mississippi:

There was disquiet about the semi-public execution of Luther Wheeler
which was witnessed by some 400 people and took place in the Forrest
County courthouse on February 5th 1954

Texas

In the afternoon, witnesses for the condemned and witnesses for the
victims arrive in separate waiting rooms near the death chamber. A
state
employee counsels victims' witnesses regarding what they are about to
see. Meanwhile, prison officials and approved media witnesses
gather in
the TDCJ administration building to await confirmation that the
execution is going to proceed as scheduled. The state allows five
media
witnesses at each execution, and three of the seats are permanently
allocated to the Associated Press, United Press International, and the
Huntsville Item.

I could go on, but I think my point is made.

So your point? Is it that these states prevent even the possibility of
repeat offenses from those that are really bad people? Less victims?

My point is that executions always have, and always will be a spectator
show. That's how executions are supposed to work, it's the core of the
practice. It's how it's supposed to deter crime. If the people watch and
know that if they do the same, that's what they will get. It's really
very simple to understand, I don't know why Scott doesn't get it.

Because you said "entertainment" not deterrent... You can't change horse
mid stream and expect not to get called on it.

It is a deterrent. Dead people commit no more crime. The deterrent is
absolute prevention. Might not rub off on others, maybe, maybe not but
the dead do not repeat offend in or out of jail.

Sure it it, but he was arguing that it was "entertainment" and I said
no... Now he has changed his tune. It's what this guy has been doing for
years. No matter how many times you prove he is wrong, he just keeps
moving the bar around till it comes full circle...

You are lying. I never said executions were for entertainment.

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OMG!!!!! Do you not know that EVERY time a man is put to death it is a
media circus????? Troy Davis was just in the national spotlight:
snip

Here is one of your quotes... There are more in the thread, just go
look..