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On Oct 27, 10:04*am, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , says... On 10/26/2011 2:44 PM, iBoaterer wrote: In , says... In , says... On 10/26/2011 1:13 PM, iBoaterer wrote: White House spokesman Scott McClellan told CNN that in preparing for the speech, Navy officials on the carrier told Bush aides they wanted a "Mission Accomplished" banner, and the White House agreed to create it. Got it, it was a Navy request... Thanks for clarifying.. But this means nothing to you? Bush offered the explanation after being asked whether his speech declaring an end to major combat in Iraq under the "Mission Accomplished" banner was premature, given that U.S. casualties in Iraq since then have surpassed those before it. If Bush didn't know about it, why did he offer up that excuse? Are you really so blinded by your party that you can't see? Add to that that every aspect of his appearence aboard the ship was VERY well detailed and orchestrated, right down to his landing, TWO fly-by's, his name already on the plane..... Right, the White House, (who had the banner made) knew nothing of it. Add to that the fact that the banner is now in the Bush Presidential Library..... Nope, he knew nothing.... RIIGGGHHHT..... And here's more!!!! At his news conference yesterday, President Bush said the decision to put a "Mission Accomplished" banner on the aircraft carrier where he gave a speech following the invasion of Iraq in 2003 was a "mistake." It was not his mistake, however, according to CBS News political analyst Dan Bartlett, a former senior advisor to Mr. Bush. Asked this morning by Harry Smith, co-anchor of CBS' The Early Show, who was responsible for the banner ? Smith pointed out that both the Navy and former White House Press Secretary Scott McClellan have taken the blame in the past ? Bartlett said that it was actually his call. "Quite frankly, yours truly was the guy who actually signed off" on posting the banner, Bartlett said, after people on the aircraft carrier approached the White House with the idea. "I regret it to this day, because it did send the wrong message." So, you don't know who signed off on the banner, but you know it was Bush..Riiiight... Yes, it was. If you think Bush didn't know about it, you have got your head in the sand so far you can see China.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Hey... you go, girlfriend! Bitch slap that little weasel until he cries uncle. ;-) |
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On 10/27/2011 9:04 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In , says... On 10/26/2011 2:44 PM, iBoaterer wrote: In , says... In , says... On 10/26/2011 1:13 PM, iBoaterer wrote: White House spokesman Scott McClellan told CNN that in preparing for the speech, Navy officials on the carrier told Bush aides they wanted a "Mission Accomplished" banner, and the White House agreed to create it. Got it, it was a Navy request... Thanks for clarifying.. But this means nothing to you? Bush offered the explanation after being asked whether his speech declaring an end to major combat in Iraq under the "Mission Accomplished" banner was premature, given that U.S. casualties in Iraq since then have surpassed those before it. If Bush didn't know about it, why did he offer up that excuse? Are you really so blinded by your party that you can't see? Add to that that every aspect of his appearence aboard the ship was VERY well detailed and orchestrated, right down to his landing, TWO fly-by's, his name already on the plane..... Right, the White House, (who had the banner made) knew nothing of it. Add to that the fact that the banner is now in the Bush Presidential Library..... Nope, he knew nothing.... RIIGGGHHHT..... And here's more!!!! At his news conference yesterday, President Bush said the decision to put a "Mission Accomplished" banner on the aircraft carrier where he gave a speech following the invasion of Iraq in 2003 was a "mistake." It was not his mistake, however, according to CBS News political analyst Dan Bartlett, a former senior advisor to Mr. Bush. Asked this morning by Harry Smith, co-anchor of CBS' The Early Show, who was responsible for the banner ? Smith pointed out that both the Navy and former White House Press Secretary Scott McClellan have taken the blame in the past ? Bartlett said that it was actually his call. "Quite frankly, yours truly was the guy who actually signed off" on posting the banner, Bartlett said, after people on the aircraft carrier approached the White House with the idea. "I regret it to this day, because it did send the wrong message." So, you don't know who signed off on the banner, but you know it was Bush..Riiiight... Yes, it was. If you think Bush didn't know about it, you have got your head in the sand so far you can see China. Oh, now "he knew about it"... So, the Navy requested it, I get it... |
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On 10/27/2011 8:56 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In , says... On 10/26/2011 2:38 PM, iBoaterer wrote: In , says... On 10/26/2011 1:13 PM, iBoaterer wrote: White House spokesman Scott McClellan told CNN that in preparing for the speech, Navy officials on the carrier told Bush aides they wanted a "Mission Accomplished" banner, and the White House agreed to create it. Got it, it was a Navy request... Thanks for clarifying.. But this means nothing to you? Bush offered the explanation after being asked whether his speech declaring an end to major combat in Iraq under the "Mission Accomplished" banner was premature, given that U.S. casualties in Iraq since then have surpassed those before it. If Bush didn't know about it, why did he offer up that excuse? Are you really so blinded by your party that you can't see? Add to that that every aspect of his appearence aboard the ship was VERY well detailed and orchestrated, right down to his landing, TWO fly-by's, his name already on the plane..... Right, the White House, (who had the banner made) knew nothing of it. Add to that the fact that the banner is now in the Bush Presidential Library..... Nope, he knew nothing.... RIIGGGHHHT..... Never said he knew nothing, why must you always lie. I said it was requested by the Navy, and it was.. Period... Okay, I guess you are too narrow minded to read. You do realize that Bush could have told them that was inappropriate and had it taken down, don't you. The trouble with this conversation is that because Navy personnel put it up, you try, because you can't bring yourself to say anything bad about Bush, to present that the banner wasn't for Bush. I've proven several times yesterday that what Eisboch said about the banner being for the ship's mission is just not true. Nothing you quoted suggested that at all.... |
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In article 76d4efdf-f2a6-43f4-b8a8-
, says... On Oct 27, 10:04*am, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On 10/26/2011 2:44 PM, iBoaterer wrote: In , says... In , says... On 10/26/2011 1:13 PM, iBoaterer wrote: White House spokesman Scott McClellan told CNN that in preparing for the speech, Navy officials on the carrier told Bush aides they wanted a "Mission Accomplished" banner, and the White House agreed to create it. Got it, it was a Navy request... Thanks for clarifying.. But this means nothing to you? Bush offered the explanation after being asked whether his speech declaring an end to major combat in Iraq under the "Mission Accomplished" banner was premature, given that U.S. casualties in Iraq since then have surpassed those before it. If Bush didn't know about it, why did he offer up that excuse? Are you really so blinded by your party that you can't see? Add to that that every aspect of his appearence aboard the ship was VERY well detailed and orchestrated, right down to his landing, TWO fly-by's, his name already on the plane..... Right, the White House, (who had the banner made) knew nothing of it. Add to that the fact that the banner is now in the Bush Presidential Library..... Nope, he knew nothing.... RIIGGGHHHT..... And here's more!!!! At his news conference yesterday, President Bush said the decision to put a "Mission Accomplished" banner on the aircraft carrier where he gave a speech following the invasion of Iraq in 2003 was a "mistake." It was not his mistake, however, according to CBS News political analyst Dan Bartlett, a former senior advisor to Mr. Bush. Asked this morning by Harry Smith, co-anchor of CBS' The Early Show, who was responsible for the banner ? Smith pointed out that both the Navy and former White House Press Secretary Scott McClellan have taken the blame in the past ? Bartlett said that it was actually his call. "Quite frankly, yours truly was the guy who actually signed off" on posting the banner, Bartlett said, after people on the aircraft carrier approached the White House with the idea. "I regret it to this day, because it did send the wrong message." So, you don't know who signed off on the banner, but you know it was Bush..Riiiight... Yes, it was. If you think Bush didn't know about it, you have got your head in the sand so far you can see China.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Hey... you go, girlfriend! Bitch slap that little weasel until he cries uncle. ;-) Gee Suckling Don the Coward, now you are talking like a 13 year old girl, and that's an improvement. |
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#47
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In article ,
says... On 10/27/2011 8:56 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In , says... On 10/26/2011 2:38 PM, iBoaterer wrote: In , says... On 10/26/2011 1:13 PM, iBoaterer wrote: White House spokesman Scott McClellan told CNN that in preparing for the speech, Navy officials on the carrier told Bush aides they wanted a "Mission Accomplished" banner, and the White House agreed to create it. Got it, it was a Navy request... Thanks for clarifying.. But this means nothing to you? Bush offered the explanation after being asked whether his speech declaring an end to major combat in Iraq under the "Mission Accomplished" banner was premature, given that U.S. casualties in Iraq since then have surpassed those before it. If Bush didn't know about it, why did he offer up that excuse? Are you really so blinded by your party that you can't see? Add to that that every aspect of his appearence aboard the ship was VERY well detailed and orchestrated, right down to his landing, TWO fly-by's, his name already on the plane..... Right, the White House, (who had the banner made) knew nothing of it. Add to that the fact that the banner is now in the Bush Presidential Library..... Nope, he knew nothing.... RIIGGGHHHT..... Never said he knew nothing, why must you always lie. I said it was requested by the Navy, and it was.. Period... Okay, I guess you are too narrow minded to read. You do realize that Bush could have told them that was inappropriate and had it taken down, don't you. The trouble with this conversation is that because Navy personnel put it up, you try, because you can't bring yourself to say anything bad about Bush, to present that the banner wasn't for Bush. I've proven several times yesterday that what Eisboch said about the banner being for the ship's mission is just not true. Nothing you quoted suggested that at all.... Suggested WHAT???? |
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#48
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In article ,
says... On 10/27/2011 9:02 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In articlegYadnfn7I79n4TXTnZ2dnUVZ_qGdnZ2d@giganews. com, says... "X ` Man" wrote in message ... On 10/26/11 7:12 AM, Eisboch wrote: "iBoaterer" wrote in message ... Like "hope and change" or "yes we can" Don't knock stupid slogans. They worked for one clown. Yeah, they did. "Mission Accomplished". -------------------------------------------------- This myth keeps being perpetuated by the media and those who like to bash Bush as if he was declaring the end of the war in Iraq. The "Mission Accomplished" banner displayed on the USS Abraham Lincoln had nothing to do with Iraq, despite what the media and Bush haters would like to believe. US Naval ships often deploy on long term "cruises" that typically last for 4-6 months or more away from their home port. Each of these cruises have a specific "mission". The mission is unique to the ship or the task force that it is part of. Navy tradition includes a celebration of sorts by the ship (or task force) to acknowledge that their specific, unique "Mission" has come to an end and the ship(s) are returning to their home ports and families. On smaller ships tradition often includes mounting a broom upside down somewhere on the mast to indicate a "clean sweep" in the performance of the unique cruise or mission. When Bush visited the Abraham Lincoln, the aircraft carrier had just been relieved by another carrier and was on it's way back to it's home port. The "Mission Accomplished" banner on the ship was in celebration of the end of it's specific cruise and not the end of the Iraq war. Eisboch (10 year Navy veteran) Some years ago, I read somewhere that it was the Navy's idea to put the sign up because Bush was coming aboard and that the White House got the sign made. The entire event was a Bush media circus, including the part when he landed on the carrier in a jet with a Navy pilot. ------------------------------------------------ It's a big deal ... even on a nuke aircraft carrier .... to have the Commander in Chief come aboard. I was on a couple of small ships and we were once visited by the Secretary of the Navy. I thought the Captain was going to **** a brick getting the ship prepared for his visit. I am sure the CO of the Lincoln did everything he could to make Bush's visit memorable. But again, I repeat ... flying the broom or celebrating the successful completion of a ship's long term cruise and mission is traditional. In this case it was not intended to celebrate a victory in Iraq. The media reports and interpretations over the years have made it what many now view it as. Eisboch Anyway, twist and turn If that were so, how come Bush, in his own words, made excuses, saying it was because it was an end to major fighting, but the fight must go on? And why did Bush aide Dan Bartlett take blame as well as Press Secretary Scott McClellan? Because you progressives need to be coddled... What the **** is THAT supposed to mean? And what the **** makes you think I'm a "progressive"?? Oh, I know why, it's because you extreme right wingers are so narrow minded that you think anybody who is even slightly left of center on some issues is just insanely liberal. You should look in the mirror! You've become so far to the right that you don't even make sense anymore. You post here about things that are in your head that just isn't true. Your insane rant about no people of color in the protester's ranks for one. |
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In article ,
says... On 10/27/2011 9:04 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In , says... On 10/26/2011 2:44 PM, iBoaterer wrote: In , says... In , says... On 10/26/2011 1:13 PM, iBoaterer wrote: White House spokesman Scott McClellan told CNN that in preparing for the speech, Navy officials on the carrier told Bush aides they wanted a "Mission Accomplished" banner, and the White House agreed to create it. Got it, it was a Navy request... Thanks for clarifying.. But this means nothing to you? Bush offered the explanation after being asked whether his speech declaring an end to major combat in Iraq under the "Mission Accomplished" banner was premature, given that U.S. casualties in Iraq since then have surpassed those before it. If Bush didn't know about it, why did he offer up that excuse? Are you really so blinded by your party that you can't see? Add to that that every aspect of his appearence aboard the ship was VERY well detailed and orchestrated, right down to his landing, TWO fly-by's, his name already on the plane..... Right, the White House, (who had the banner made) knew nothing of it. Add to that the fact that the banner is now in the Bush Presidential Library..... Nope, he knew nothing.... RIIGGGHHHT..... And here's more!!!! At his news conference yesterday, President Bush said the decision to put a "Mission Accomplished" banner on the aircraft carrier where he gave a speech following the invasion of Iraq in 2003 was a "mistake." It was not his mistake, however, according to CBS News political analyst Dan Bartlett, a former senior advisor to Mr. Bush. Asked this morning by Harry Smith, co-anchor of CBS' The Early Show, who was responsible for the banner ? Smith pointed out that both the Navy and former White House Press Secretary Scott McClellan have taken the blame in the past ? Bartlett said that it was actually his call. "Quite frankly, yours truly was the guy who actually signed off" on posting the banner, Bartlett said, after people on the aircraft carrier approached the White House with the idea. "I regret it to this day, because it did send the wrong message." So, you don't know who signed off on the banner, but you know it was Bush..Riiiight... Yes, it was. If you think Bush didn't know about it, you have got your head in the sand so far you can see China. Oh, now "he knew about it"... So, the Navy requested it, I get it... You are completely insane!!!!! Bush ADMITTED knowing about it, Rumsfield ADMITTED knowing about it and trying to get Bush to not use the banner. Bush's aide has admitted having a hand in it as well as Bush's Press Sectretary. Do you REALLY think that Bush didn't know about it? Even after Rumsfield tried to talk him out of it????? |
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On 10/27/2011 10:12 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In , says... On 10/27/2011 9:04 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In , says... On 10/26/2011 2:44 PM, iBoaterer wrote: In , says... In , says... On 10/26/2011 1:13 PM, iBoaterer wrote: White House spokesman Scott McClellan told CNN that in preparing for the speech, Navy officials on the carrier told Bush aides they wanted a "Mission Accomplished" banner, and the White House agreed to create it. Got it, it was a Navy request... Thanks for clarifying.. But this means nothing to you? Bush offered the explanation after being asked whether his speech declaring an end to major combat in Iraq under the "Mission Accomplished" banner was premature, given that U.S. casualties in Iraq since then have surpassed those before it. If Bush didn't know about it, why did he offer up that excuse? Are you really so blinded by your party that you can't see? Add to that that every aspect of his appearence aboard the ship was VERY well detailed and orchestrated, right down to his landing, TWO fly-by's, his name already on the plane..... Right, the White House, (who had the banner made) knew nothing of it. Add to that the fact that the banner is now in the Bush Presidential Library..... Nope, he knew nothing.... RIIGGGHHHT..... And here's more!!!! At his news conference yesterday, President Bush said the decision to put a "Mission Accomplished" banner on the aircraft carrier where he gave a speech following the invasion of Iraq in 2003 was a "mistake." It was not his mistake, however, according to CBS News political analyst Dan Bartlett, a former senior advisor to Mr. Bush. Asked this morning by Harry Smith, co-anchor of CBS' The Early Show, who was responsible for the banner ? Smith pointed out that both the Navy and former White House Press Secretary Scott McClellan have taken the blame in the past ? Bartlett said that it was actually his call. "Quite frankly, yours truly was the guy who actually signed off" on posting the banner, Bartlett said, after people on the aircraft carrier approached the White House with the idea. "I regret it to this day, because it did send the wrong message." So, you don't know who signed off on the banner, but you know it was Bush..Riiiight... Yes, it was. If you think Bush didn't know about it, you have got your head in the sand so far you can see China. Oh, now "he knew about it"... So, the Navy requested it, I get it... You are completely insane!!!!! Bush ADMITTED knowing about it, Rumsfield ADMITTED knowing about it and trying to get Bush to not use the banner. Bush's aide has admitted having a hand in it as well as Bush's Press Sectretary. Do you REALLY think that Bush didn't know about it? Even after Rumsfield tried to talk him out of it????? Who requested it, the Navy and so what if Bush didn't think it was a bad idea or have someone pull it down as he walked to the podium? Bull, let's talk about "Fast and Furious" if you want to talk about things folks knew about and lied about too... |
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