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I thought they were supposed to be melting?
On 11/9/2011 9:58 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 11/9/2011 9:46 AM, Drifter wrote: On 11/9/2011 9:03 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In , says... On 11/8/2011 8:39 PM, wrote: On Sun, 06 Nov 2011 20:30:50 -0500, JustWait wrote: On 11/6/2011 6:54 PM, wrote: On Sun, 06 Nov 2011 15:57:28 -0500, John wrote: On Sun, 06 Nov 2011 10:28:02 -0700, wrote: On 06/11/2011 10:22 AM, jps wrote: On Sat, 5 Nov 2011 11:54:32 -0700 (PDT), wrote: On Nov 5, 8:12 am, wrote: In article3047049c-3cfa-4006-92f6-6fb2727f41a4 @bq8g2000vbb.googlegroups.com, says... http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/nati...ve-new-iceberg... Huh? whadda you know? Tim surely you're not using this to suggest that global warming isn't happening, are you? I dunno. I'd always thought that glaciers and giant ice shelves were melting away because the earth was getting warmer, then you hear about a massive chunk of ice forming and.... I know we had a decent frost last night, but it's November, we're supposed to have a decent frost last night. I assume you like somewhere in the middle of the country and are completely unaware of the weird weather most of the country has been expeiencing the past year. Are you aware of the spike in tornados? So far weather has been changing for 4.5 billion years and this year was mild by comparison. And the predictions from the sane say the same thing is in store for the next 4.5 billion years. Are you saying the ending of the ice age was caused by man? Oh, the shame of it all. He probably is, but I don't know anybody else that is sane or without a monetary interest saying that global warming is CAUSED by man. OTOH, I think there are a lot of reasons to believe that man CONTRIBUTES to global warming. But how much, and to what end... The world has been hotter and colder than now, it has changed faster than it is changing now, and it will probably stay in the long run, pretty similar to what it is now... The world has a great climate control system in the whole spinning thing. Too much heat will make for more hurricaines which take a tremendous amount of heat energy and spin it out to the poles where it can dissipate. If the world gets warmer, more hurricnes, if the world gets colder, less hurricanes, pretty simple really. I think the world has things under control and it is doing what it does, just fine. More hurricanes means something maybe us, maybe the sun, maybe both are doing what they do to the earth. The earth will respond and balance things out like it's been doing for 4 billion years... The concern is a potential for a tipping point. The ramifications of that are truly scary. Besides, a lot of the green applications save money and resources. I actually like to save money, so I don't see the problem. Show me one... Forget the silly carbon credit stuff. That's just crap. LED lightbulbs. Insulation Carpools Vegetable and fruit gardens Fuel efficient cars sealing your home to lower heating and cooling costs Making your own green cleaning products Using the library as opposed to buying books Irrigating with rain water Stand-by power strips Paperless billing and online bill pay If you need more, hit me up! Lowes had 40W LED bulbs on sale last week for $10 They seem to have the brightness of 60W I bought 20 of them. What are stand by power strips? Those things are made by slave labor in China, polluting the environment worse than a lot of other technology, and through practical experience I can tell you, they don't actually last that much longer than regular bulbs in frequent service on and off cycles like in the bathroom. They are great for the attic or basement or other places but I hate changing them so often, it's nerve wracking... LED not CFL. Huge difference. -- 1-20-13 The end of an error |
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#63
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I thought they were supposed to be melting?
On 11/9/2011 9:56 AM, Drifter wrote:
On 11/9/2011 9:09 AM, JustWait wrote: On 11/9/2011 8:40 AM, X ` Man wrote: On 11/9/11 8:33 AM, JustWait wrote: On 11/9/2011 8:30 AM, X ` Man wrote: On 11/9/11 8:24 AM, JustWait wrote: On 11/9/2011 8:00 AM, Drifter wrote: On 11/8/2011 9:59 PM, wrote: On Tue, 08 Nov 2011 21:11:44 -0500, JustWait wrote: On 11/8/2011 8:39 PM, wrote: On Sun, 06 Nov 2011 20:30:50 -0500, JustWait wrote: On 11/6/2011 6:54 PM, wrote: On Sun, 06 Nov 2011 15:57:28 -0500, John wrote: On Sun, 06 Nov 2011 10:28:02 -0700, wrote: On 06/11/2011 10:22 AM, jps wrote: On Sat, 5 Nov 2011 11:54:32 -0700 (PDT), wrote: On Nov 5, 8:12 am, wrote: In article3047049c-3cfa-4006-92f6-6fb2727f41a4 @bq8g2000vbb.googlegroups.com, says... http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/nati...ve-new-iceberg... Huh? whadda you know? Tim surely you're not using this to suggest that global warming isn't happening, are you? I dunno. I'd always thought that glaciers and giant ice shelves were melting away because the earth was getting warmer, then you hear about a massive chunk of ice forming and.... I know we had a decent frost last night, but it's November, we're supposed to have a decent frost last night. I assume you like somewhere in the middle of the country and are completely unaware of the weird weather most of the country has been expeiencing the past year. Are you aware of the spike in tornados? So far weather has been changing for 4.5 billion years and this year was mild by comparison. And the predictions from the sane say the same thing is in store for the next 4.5 billion years. Are you saying the ending of the ice age was caused by man? Oh, the shame of it all. He probably is, but I don't know anybody else that is sane or without a monetary interest saying that global warming is CAUSED by man. OTOH, I think there are a lot of reasons to believe that man CONTRIBUTES to global warming. But how much, and to what end... The world has been hotter and colder than now, it has changed faster than it is changing now, and it will probably stay in the long run, pretty similar to what it is now... The world has a great climate control system in the whole spinning thing. Too much heat will make for more hurricaines which take a tremendous amount of heat energy and spin it out to the poles where it can dissipate. If the world gets warmer, more hurricnes, if the world gets colder, less hurricanes, pretty simple really. I think the world has things under control and it is doing what it does, just fine. More hurricanes means something maybe us, maybe the sun, maybe both are doing what they do to the earth. The earth will respond and balance things out like it's been doing for 4 billion years... The concern is a potential for a tipping point. The ramifications of that are truly scary. Besides, a lot of the green applications save money and resources. I actually like to save money, so I don't see the problem. Show me one... Your current struggles with your boiler. Somebody with a technical education of about the 10th grade or higher could easily answer your question. Go for it Dearie. Answer his question. I don't pay attention to the Harry/Plum clone... she doesn't have any answers anyway. Her answers were better than your questions. Yeah, you would say that. You think a non-answer insult is an "answer"!? LOL! I think your "comments" on global warming and many other issues either are or border on idiotic. As to your home heating problem, I have no comment beyond saying I'd call in someone who knows about these systems intimately rather than depend upon conflicting advice from a newsgroup. When I was getting specs and bids for the new genny system here, the best advice on placing the generator came from the field technician (a licensed plumber) from the company from which we buy our LP gas, and the consultation didn't cost me a dime. His advice resulted in a cost savings of nearly $2000. I am just trying to tweak my system.. Once I understand the principal, I will be able to the same way I diagnosed cars.. You will never understand Harry, you obviously should stick to paying others to do your work for you... There aren't a lot of magic tweeks. The one tweek I didn't mention before is change the filter and adjust the flame. You might want to hire a HVAC guy to do that. No, I can do all that... my dad was old school I service both boilers every year in both houses, have for ever.. That's not the issue. I am just wondering if fooling with cut off temps etc can make a difference...If not, I am sure mine is ok. Last time I had the boiler guy in to keep up the oil service contract, he tested it out at 97.something percent. Great, the "boiler" is about as efficient as it can be, I am looking at the baseboard system in relation to that... Maybe I can't do anything, but at least I asked. Now to the back up water supply running off a bicycle pump  |
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#64
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I thought they were supposed to be melting?
On 11/9/11 9:30 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 11/9/2011 9:15 AM, X ` Man wrote: On 11/9/11 9:09 AM, JustWait wrote: On 11/9/2011 8:40 AM, X ` Man wrote: On 11/9/11 8:33 AM, JustWait wrote: On 11/9/2011 8:30 AM, X ` Man wrote: On 11/9/11 8:24 AM, JustWait wrote: On 11/9/2011 8:00 AM, Drifter wrote: On 11/8/2011 9:59 PM, wrote: On Tue, 08 Nov 2011 21:11:44 -0500, JustWait wrote: On 11/8/2011 8:39 PM, wrote: On Sun, 06 Nov 2011 20:30:50 -0500, JustWait wrote: On 11/6/2011 6:54 PM, wrote: On Sun, 06 Nov 2011 15:57:28 -0500, John wrote: On Sun, 06 Nov 2011 10:28:02 -0700, wrote: On 06/11/2011 10:22 AM, jps wrote: On Sat, 5 Nov 2011 11:54:32 -0700 (PDT), wrote: On Nov 5, 8:12 am, wrote: In article3047049c-3cfa-4006-92f6-6fb2727f41a4 @bq8g2000vbb.googlegroups.com, says... http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/nati...ve-new-iceberg... Huh? whadda you know? Tim surely you're not using this to suggest that global warming isn't happening, are you? I dunno. I'd always thought that glaciers and giant ice shelves were melting away because the earth was getting warmer, then you hear about a massive chunk of ice forming and.... I know we had a decent frost last night, but it's November, we're supposed to have a decent frost last night. I assume you like somewhere in the middle of the country and are completely unaware of the weird weather most of the country has been expeiencing the past year. Are you aware of the spike in tornados? So far weather has been changing for 4.5 billion years and this year was mild by comparison. And the predictions from the sane say the same thing is in store for the next 4.5 billion years. Are you saying the ending of the ice age was caused by man? Oh, the shame of it all. He probably is, but I don't know anybody else that is sane or without a monetary interest saying that global warming is CAUSED by man. OTOH, I think there are a lot of reasons to believe that man CONTRIBUTES to global warming. But how much, and to what end... The world has been hotter and colder than now, it has changed faster than it is changing now, and it will probably stay in the long run, pretty similar to what it is now... The world has a great climate control system in the whole spinning thing. Too much heat will make for more hurricaines which take a tremendous amount of heat energy and spin it out to the poles where it can dissipate. If the world gets warmer, more hurricnes, if the world gets colder, less hurricanes, pretty simple really. I think the world has things under control and it is doing what it does, just fine. More hurricanes means something maybe us, maybe the sun, maybe both are doing what they do to the earth. The earth will respond and balance things out like it's been doing for 4 billion years... The concern is a potential for a tipping point. The ramifications of that are truly scary. Besides, a lot of the green applications save money and resources. I actually like to save money, so I don't see the problem. Show me one... Your current struggles with your boiler. Somebody with a technical education of about the 10th grade or higher could easily answer your question. Go for it Dearie. Answer his question. I don't pay attention to the Harry/Plum clone... she doesn't have any answers anyway. Her answers were better than your questions. Yeah, you would say that. You think a non-answer insult is an "answer"!? LOL! I think your "comments" on global warming and many other issues either are or border on idiotic. As to your home heating problem, I have no comment beyond saying I'd call in someone who knows about these systems intimately rather than depend upon conflicting advice from a newsgroup. When I was getting specs and bids for the new genny system here, the best advice on placing the generator came from the field technician (a licensed plumber) from the company from which we buy our LP gas, and the consultation didn't cost me a dime. His advice resulted in a cost savings of nearly $2000. I am just trying to tweak my system.. Once I understand the principal, I will be able to the same way I diagnosed cars.. You will never understand Harry, you obviously should stick to paying others to do your work for you... As I posted, I got quality technical advice and not only didn't it cost me anything, it saved me a couple of bucks. Your local fuel supplier should be able to help you out without charge. I don't have the diagnostic instruments or specialized tools necessary to determine what is wrong with today's large engines, nor do I have the specialized knowledge. I do keep my old technology lawn mower, lawn tractor, chain saw and string trimmer running properly. That's the difference. I have experience with engines, plumbing, electrical, etc, etc.... I do a lot of work myself. I do the research first so I understand the system, then I go fix it. My middle daughter did all of the fiberglass work on the first boat I ever built, my 17 year old just did the top end, valves, timing chain, piston, rings, surclip, shims (using the micrometer) and rebuilt her own race engine. It has been a one kick motor for almost 30 engine hours since then... I have the tools, I have the internet. I asked here to get pointed in the right direction, you have nothing to add, so go to ****ing hell and keep hiding in your basement with nothing but unclever one liners and your delusions of grandeur... The difference is that you are interested in doing that sort of work. I am not. I can and do handle the small two and four cycle gasoline engines I have. I have the carpentry skills to build a nice deck or install a new exterior door, and I can build a patio. I don't do serious electrical or plumbing work. How is your wife gonna' do changing the oil on that new generator, or pulling a leaf out of the intake if you are down, sick, or the best possibility, dead? Yeah, didn't think so.... My wife is very smart. She'll either figure it out or call someone who can. Since she is gainfully employed with strong employment prospects about anywhere she wants to work, all she will have to do is write a check. |
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#65
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I thought they were supposed to be melting?
In article 7b9a1499-c6f6-4142-ada5-c6117b518064
@z20g2000yqc.googlegroups.com, says... On Nov 9, 9:40*am, X ` Man dump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you- can.com wrote: On 11/9/11 8:33 AM, JustWait wrote: On 11/9/2011 8:30 AM, X ` Man wrote: On 11/9/11 8:24 AM, JustWait wrote: On 11/9/2011 8:00 AM, Drifter wrote: On 11/8/2011 9:59 PM, wrote: On Tue, 08 Nov 2011 21:11:44 -0500, JustWait wrote: On 11/8/2011 8:39 PM, wrote: On Sun, 06 Nov 2011 20:30:50 -0500, JustWait wrote: On 11/6/2011 6:54 PM, wrote: On Sun, 06 Nov 2011 15:57:28 -0500, John wrote: On Sun, 06 Nov 2011 10:28:02 -0700, wrote: On 06/11/2011 10:22 AM, jps wrote: On Sat, 5 Nov 2011 11:54:32 -0700 (PDT), wrote: On Nov 5, 8:12 am, wrote: In article3047049c-3cfa-4006-92f6-6fb2727f41a4 @bq8g2000vbb.googlegroups.com, says... http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/nati...ve-new-iceberg... Huh? whadda you know? Tim surely you're not using this to suggest that global warming isn't happening, are you? I dunno. I'd always thought that glaciers and giant ice shelves were melting away because the earth was getting warmer, then you hear about a massive chunk of ice forming and.... I know we had a decent frost last night, but it's November, we're supposed to have a decent frost last night. I assume you like somewhere in the middle of the country and are completely unaware of the weird weather most of the country has been expeiencing the past year. Are you aware of the spike in tornados? So far weather has been changing for 4.5 billion years and this year was mild by comparison. And the predictions from the sane say the same thing is in store for the next 4.5 billion years. Are you saying the ending of the ice age was caused by man? Oh, the shame of it all. He probably is, but I don't know anybody else that is sane or without a monetary interest saying that global warming is CAUSED by man. OTOH, I think there are a lot of reasons to believe that man CONTRIBUTES to global warming. But how much, and to what end... The world has been hotter and colder than now, it has changed faster than it is changing now, and it will probably stay in the long run, pretty similar to what it is now... The world has a great climate control system in the whole spinning thing. Too much heat will make for more hurricaines which take a tremendous amount of heat energy and spin it out to the poles where it can dissipate. If the world gets warmer, more hurricnes, if the world gets colder, less hurricanes, pretty simple really. I think the world has things under control and it is doing what it does, just fine. More hurricanes means something maybe us, maybe the sun, maybe both are doing what they do to the earth. The earth will respond and balance things out like it's been doing for 4 billion years... The concern is a potential for a tipping point. The ramifications of that are truly scary. Besides, a lot of the green applications save money and resources. I actually like to save money, so I don't see the problem. Show me one... Your current struggles with your boiler. Somebody with a technical education of about the 10th grade or higher could easily answer your question. Go for it Dearie. Answer his question. I don't pay attention to the Harry/Plum clone... she doesn't have any answers anyway. Her answers were better than your questions. Yeah, you would say that. You think a non-answer insult is an "answer"!? LOL! I think your "comments" on global warming and many other issues either are or border on idiotic. As to your home heating problem, I have no comment beyond saying I'd call in someone who knows about these systems intimately rather than depend upon conflicting advice from a newsgroup. When I was getting specs and bids for the new genny system here, the best advice on placing the generator came from the field technician (a licensed plumber) from the company from which we buy our LP gas, and the consultation didn't cost me a dime. His advice resulted in a cost savings of nearly $2000.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Yup! That's good advice. Pay to get a certified furnace technician in. It just seems crazy to put your family in jeopardy by messing around with something you know little about. My, you are as big of a coward as Harry, Suckling Don! |
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#66
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says... On 11/9/2011 8:58 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In , says... On Sun, 06 Nov 2011 20:30:50 -0500, JustWait wrote: On 11/6/2011 6:54 PM, wrote: On Sun, 06 Nov 2011 15:57:28 -0500, John wrote: On Sun, 06 Nov 2011 10:28:02 -0700, wrote: On 06/11/2011 10:22 AM, jps wrote: On Sat, 5 Nov 2011 11:54:32 -0700 (PDT), wrote: On Nov 5, 8:12 am, wrote: In article3047049c-3cfa-4006-92f6-6fb2727f41a4 @bq8g2000vbb.googlegroups.com, says... http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/nati...ve-new-iceberg... Huh? whadda you know? Tim surely you're not using this to suggest that global warming isn't happening, are you? I dunno. I'd always thought that glaciers and giant ice shelves were melting away because the earth was getting warmer, then you hear about a massive chunk of ice forming and.... I know we had a decent frost last night, but it's November, we're supposed to have a decent frost last night. I assume you like somewhere in the middle of the country and are completely unaware of the weird weather most of the country has been expeiencing the past year. Are you aware of the spike in tornados? So far weather has been changing for 4.5 billion years and this year was mild by comparison. And the predictions from the sane say the same thing is in store for the next 4.5 billion years. Are you saying the ending of the ice age was caused by man? Oh, the shame of it all. He probably is, but I don't know anybody else that is sane or without a monetary interest saying that global warming is CAUSED by man. OTOH, I think there are a lot of reasons to believe that man CONTRIBUTES to global warming. But how much, and to what end... The world has been hotter and colder than now, it has changed faster than it is changing now, and it will probably stay in the long run, pretty similar to what it is now... The world has a great climate control system in the whole spinning thing. Too much heat will make for more hurricaines which take a tremendous amount of heat energy and spin it out to the poles where it can dissipate. If the world gets warmer, more hurricnes, if the world gets colder, less hurricanes, pretty simple really. I think the world has things under control and it is doing what it does, just fine. More hurricanes means something maybe us, maybe the sun, maybe both are doing what they do to the earth. The earth will respond and balance things out like it's been doing for 4 billion years... The concern is a potential for a tipping point. The ramifications of that are truly scary. Besides, a lot of the green applications save money and resources. I actually like to save money, so I don't see the problem. Forget the silly carbon credit stuff. That's just crap. But FOX says it's not happening.... Uh, no "Fox" doesn't... Well, just who told you that global warming isn't happening then? |
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#67
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says... On 11/9/2011 9:03 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In , says... On 11/8/2011 8:39 PM, wrote: On Sun, 06 Nov 2011 20:30:50 -0500, JustWait wrote: On 11/6/2011 6:54 PM, wrote: On Sun, 06 Nov 2011 15:57:28 -0500, John wrote: On Sun, 06 Nov 2011 10:28:02 -0700, wrote: On 06/11/2011 10:22 AM, jps wrote: On Sat, 5 Nov 2011 11:54:32 -0700 (PDT), wrote: On Nov 5, 8:12 am, wrote: In article3047049c-3cfa-4006-92f6-6fb2727f41a4 @bq8g2000vbb.googlegroups.com, says... http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/nati...ve-new-iceberg... Huh? whadda you know? Tim surely you're not using this to suggest that global warming isn't happening, are you? I dunno. I'd always thought that glaciers and giant ice shelves were melting away because the earth was getting warmer, then you hear about a massive chunk of ice forming and.... I know we had a decent frost last night, but it's November, we're supposed to have a decent frost last night. I assume you like somewhere in the middle of the country and are completely unaware of the weird weather most of the country has been expeiencing the past year. Are you aware of the spike in tornados? So far weather has been changing for 4.5 billion years and this year was mild by comparison. And the predictions from the sane say the same thing is in store for the next 4.5 billion years. Are you saying the ending of the ice age was caused by man? Oh, the shame of it all. He probably is, but I don't know anybody else that is sane or without a monetary interest saying that global warming is CAUSED by man. OTOH, I think there are a lot of reasons to believe that man CONTRIBUTES to global warming. But how much, and to what end... The world has been hotter and colder than now, it has changed faster than it is changing now, and it will probably stay in the long run, pretty similar to what it is now... The world has a great climate control system in the whole spinning thing. Too much heat will make for more hurricaines which take a tremendous amount of heat energy and spin it out to the poles where it can dissipate. If the world gets warmer, more hurricnes, if the world gets colder, less hurricanes, pretty simple really. I think the world has things under control and it is doing what it does, just fine. More hurricanes means something maybe us, maybe the sun, maybe both are doing what they do to the earth. The earth will respond and balance things out like it's been doing for 4 billion years... The concern is a potential for a tipping point. The ramifications of that are truly scary. Besides, a lot of the green applications save money and resources. I actually like to save money, so I don't see the problem. Show me one... Forget the silly carbon credit stuff. That's just crap. LED lightbulbs. Insulation Carpools Vegetable and fruit gardens Fuel efficient cars sealing your home to lower heating and cooling costs Making your own green cleaning products Using the library as opposed to buying books Irrigating with rain water Stand-by power strips Paperless billing and online bill pay If you need more, hit me up! LED Light bulbs.. they pollute the earth so much, the slight savings are mitigated... Insulation is not a "green" thing, we have been using it since cave man days. Same with carpools, gardens etc... I want to see new technology based on "green" investment like Solara.. Uh, you asked for green items that saved money. I've shown you many. You DO realize that incandescent light bulbs also pollute the earth, don't you? LED's don't pollute any more than incandescents, and have no toxic chemicals within like fluorescents do. As for the rest you never asked for "new technology" until I gave you a list showing how narrow minded your thinking is. |
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#68
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On 11/9/2011 10:41 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In , says... On 11/9/2011 9:03 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In , says... On 11/8/2011 8:39 PM, wrote: On Sun, 06 Nov 2011 20:30:50 -0500, JustWait wrote: On 11/6/2011 6:54 PM, wrote: On Sun, 06 Nov 2011 15:57:28 -0500, John wrote: On Sun, 06 Nov 2011 10:28:02 -0700, wrote: On 06/11/2011 10:22 AM, jps wrote: On Sat, 5 Nov 2011 11:54:32 -0700 (PDT), wrote: On Nov 5, 8:12 am, wrote: In article3047049c-3cfa-4006-92f6-6fb2727f41a4 @bq8g2000vbb.googlegroups.com, says... http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/nati...ve-new-iceberg... Huh? whadda you know? Tim surely you're not using this to suggest that global warming isn't happening, are you? I dunno. I'd always thought that glaciers and giant ice shelves were melting away because the earth was getting warmer, then you hear about a massive chunk of ice forming and.... I know we had a decent frost last night, but it's November, we're supposed to have a decent frost last night. I assume you like somewhere in the middle of the country and are completely unaware of the weird weather most of the country has been expeiencing the past year. Are you aware of the spike in tornados? So far weather has been changing for 4.5 billion years and this year was mild by comparison. And the predictions from the sane say the same thing is in store for the next 4.5 billion years. Are you saying the ending of the ice age was caused by man? Oh, the shame of it all. He probably is, but I don't know anybody else that is sane or without a monetary interest saying that global warming is CAUSED by man. OTOH, I think there are a lot of reasons to believe that man CONTRIBUTES to global warming. But how much, and to what end... The world has been hotter and colder than now, it has changed faster than it is changing now, and it will probably stay in the long run, pretty similar to what it is now... The world has a great climate control system in the whole spinning thing. Too much heat will make for more hurricaines which take a tremendous amount of heat energy and spin it out to the poles where it can dissipate. If the world gets warmer, more hurricnes, if the world gets colder, less hurricanes, pretty simple really. I think the world has things under control and it is doing what it does, just fine. More hurricanes means something maybe us, maybe the sun, maybe both are doing what they do to the earth. The earth will respond and balance things out like it's been doing for 4 billion years... The concern is a potential for a tipping point. The ramifications of that are truly scary. Besides, a lot of the green applications save money and resources. I actually like to save money, so I don't see the problem. Show me one... Forget the silly carbon credit stuff. That's just crap. LED lightbulbs. Insulation Carpools Vegetable and fruit gardens Fuel efficient cars sealing your home to lower heating and cooling costs Making your own green cleaning products Using the library as opposed to buying books Irrigating with rain water Stand-by power strips Paperless billing and online bill pay If you need more, hit me up! LED Light bulbs.. they pollute the earth so much, the slight savings are mitigated... Insulation is not a "green" thing, we have been using it since cave man days. Same with carpools, gardens etc... I want to see new technology based on "green" investment like Solara.. Uh, you asked for green items that saved money. I've shown you many. You DO realize that incandescent light bulbs also pollute the earth, don't you? LED's don't pollute any more than incandescents, and have no toxic chemicals within like fluorescents do. As for the rest you never asked for "new technology" until I gave you a list showing how narrow minded your thinking is. No, I qualified my question as you were not able to understand as usual... |
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I thought they were supposed to be melting?
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says... On 11/9/2011 9:19 AM, X ` Man wrote: On 11/9/11 9:12 AM, JustWait wrote: On 11/9/2011 9:03 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In , says... On 11/8/2011 8:39 PM, wrote: On Sun, 06 Nov 2011 20:30:50 -0500, JustWait wrote: On 11/6/2011 6:54 PM, wrote: On Sun, 06 Nov 2011 15:57:28 -0500, John wrote: On Sun, 06 Nov 2011 10:28:02 -0700, wrote: On 06/11/2011 10:22 AM, jps wrote: On Sat, 5 Nov 2011 11:54:32 -0700 (PDT), wrote: On Nov 5, 8:12 am, wrote: In article3047049c-3cfa-4006-92f6-6fb2727f41a4 @bq8g2000vbb.googlegroups.com, says... http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/nati...ve-new-iceberg... Huh? whadda you know? Tim surely you're not using this to suggest that global warming isn't happening, are you? I dunno. I'd always thought that glaciers and giant ice shelves were melting away because the earth was getting warmer, then you hear about a massive chunk of ice forming and.... I know we had a decent frost last night, but it's November, we're supposed to have a decent frost last night. I assume you like somewhere in the middle of the country and are completely unaware of the weird weather most of the country has been expeiencing the past year. Are you aware of the spike in tornados? So far weather has been changing for 4.5 billion years and this year was mild by comparison. And the predictions from the sane say the same thing is in store for the next 4.5 billion years. Are you saying the ending of the ice age was caused by man? Oh, the shame of it all. He probably is, but I don't know anybody else that is sane or without a monetary interest saying that global warming is CAUSED by man. OTOH, I think there are a lot of reasons to believe that man CONTRIBUTES to global warming. But how much, and to what end... The world has been hotter and colder than now, it has changed faster than it is changing now, and it will probably stay in the long run, pretty similar to what it is now... The world has a great climate control system in the whole spinning thing. Too much heat will make for more hurricaines which take a tremendous amount of heat energy and spin it out to the poles where it can dissipate. If the world gets warmer, more hurricnes, if the world gets colder, less hurricanes, pretty simple really. I think the world has things under control and it is doing what it does, just fine. More hurricanes means something maybe us, maybe the sun, maybe both are doing what they do to the earth. The earth will respond and balance things out like it's been doing for 4 billion years... The concern is a potential for a tipping point. The ramifications of that are truly scary. Besides, a lot of the green applications save money and resources. I actually like to save money, so I don't see the problem. Show me one... Forget the silly carbon credit stuff. That's just crap. LED lightbulbs. Insulation Carpools Vegetable and fruit gardens Fuel efficient cars sealing your home to lower heating and cooling costs Making your own green cleaning products Using the library as opposed to buying books Irrigating with rain water Stand-by power strips Paperless billing and online bill pay If you need more, hit me up! LED Light bulbs.. they pollute the earth so much, the slight savings are mitigated... Insulation is not a "green" thing, we have been using it since cave man days. Same with carpools, gardens etc... I want to see new technology based on "green" investment like Solara.. Anything that cuts back on the use of fossil fuel or cuts back on pollutants can be called "green." Insulation certainly is "green," as are carpools and gardens. so then we really don't need to be wasting tax payer money on friends of Obama and their shell companies? Are you really so damned narrow minded by Fox that you don't understand that coming up with new technology to lessen the middles east's grip on our collective balls through oil is a good thing??? I know, fossil fuels that pollute the environment is the only way in your eyes, I've heard Rush before. |
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I thought they were supposed to be melting?
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says... On 11/9/2011 9:03 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In , says... On 11/8/2011 8:39 PM, wrote: On Sun, 06 Nov 2011 20:30:50 -0500, JustWait wrote: On 11/6/2011 6:54 PM, wrote: On Sun, 06 Nov 2011 15:57:28 -0500, John wrote: On Sun, 06 Nov 2011 10:28:02 -0700, wrote: On 06/11/2011 10:22 AM, jps wrote: On Sat, 5 Nov 2011 11:54:32 -0700 (PDT), wrote: On Nov 5, 8:12 am, wrote: In article3047049c-3cfa-4006-92f6-6fb2727f41a4 @bq8g2000vbb.googlegroups.com, says... http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/nati...ve-new-iceberg... Huh? whadda you know? Tim surely you're not using this to suggest that global warming isn't happening, are you? I dunno. I'd always thought that glaciers and giant ice shelves were melting away because the earth was getting warmer, then you hear about a massive chunk of ice forming and.... I know we had a decent frost last night, but it's November, we're supposed to have a decent frost last night. I assume you like somewhere in the middle of the country and are completely unaware of the weird weather most of the country has been expeiencing the past year. Are you aware of the spike in tornados? So far weather has been changing for 4.5 billion years and this year was mild by comparison. And the predictions from the sane say the same thing is in store for the next 4.5 billion years. Are you saying the ending of the ice age was caused by man? Oh, the shame of it all. He probably is, but I don't know anybody else that is sane or without a monetary interest saying that global warming is CAUSED by man. OTOH, I think there are a lot of reasons to believe that man CONTRIBUTES to global warming. But how much, and to what end... The world has been hotter and colder than now, it has changed faster than it is changing now, and it will probably stay in the long run, pretty similar to what it is now... The world has a great climate control system in the whole spinning thing. Too much heat will make for more hurricaines which take a tremendous amount of heat energy and spin it out to the poles where it can dissipate. If the world gets warmer, more hurricnes, if the world gets colder, less hurricanes, pretty simple really. I think the world has things under control and it is doing what it does, just fine. More hurricanes means something maybe us, maybe the sun, maybe both are doing what they do to the earth. The earth will respond and balance things out like it's been doing for 4 billion years... The concern is a potential for a tipping point. The ramifications of that are truly scary. Besides, a lot of the green applications save money and resources. I actually like to save money, so I don't see the problem. Show me one... Forget the silly carbon credit stuff. That's just crap. LED lightbulbs. Insulation Carpools Vegetable and fruit gardens Fuel efficient cars sealing your home to lower heating and cooling costs Making your own green cleaning products Using the library as opposed to buying books Irrigating with rain water Stand-by power strips Paperless billing and online bill pay If you need more, hit me up! Lowes had 40W LED bulbs on sale last week for $10 They seem to have the brightness of 60W I bought 20 of them. What are stand by power strips? When computers, etc are attached to one, they sense when they are not being used and go to stand by, basically dimming. Man, that's a hell of a price, I'm going to look and see if they still have them. |
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