On Nov 11, 9:44*am, iBoaterer wrote:
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On 11/11/11 7:18 AM, John H wrote:
On Fri, 11 Nov 2011 04:55:41 -0500, *wrote:

On 11/10/2011 11:14 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 10/11/2011 7:21 PM, X ` Man wrote:

A classmate and colleague of my wife, Lt. Col. David E. Cabrera, was
killed recently in Afghanistan

RIP. Condolences to the family.

But if 0bama kept his promises he would still be alive.

I am just surprised Harry hasn't told us how worthless the guy was for
joining up. I mean, we all know the disdain he has for enlisted men and
women... Just ask John...

Nope. According to his comments, I was 'stupid', because I let myself get drafted.

My disdain is for the military establishment generally, the
"corporation," so to speak, and not those who wear the uniform, with
certain exceptions to the latter, you being one of them.

Since the end of World War II, I believe the military establishment's
primary goal has been to perpetuate itself, to keep as many men and
women in uniform as possible.

Dr. Cabrera chose a soldier's life and took a soldier's chances.
According to my wife, he was a terrific psychotherapist, something the
military is in great need of these days.

That's odd, you've shown your disdain for every veteran that posts in
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....and what are you a vereran of...the swamp wars?

On 11/11/11 9:16 AM, North Star wrote:
On Nov 11, 9:44 am, wrote:
In articlel8qdnT6WEeeeiyDTnZ2dnUVZ_uedn...@earthlink .com, dump-on-
says...







On 11/11/11 7:18 AM, John H wrote:
On Fri, 11 Nov 2011 04:55:41 -0500, wrote:

On 11/10/2011 11:14 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 10/11/2011 7:21 PM, X ` Man wrote:

A classmate and colleague of my wife, Lt. Col. David E. Cabrera, was
killed recently in Afghanistan

RIP. Condolences to the family.

But if 0bama kept his promises he would still be alive.

I am just surprised Harry hasn't told us how worthless the guy was for
joining up. I mean, we all know the disdain he has for enlisted men and
women... Just ask John...

Nope. According to his comments, I was 'stupid', because I let myself get drafted.

My disdain is for the military establishment generally, the
"corporation," so to speak, and not those who wear the uniform, with
certain exceptions to the latter, you being one of them.

Since the end of World War II, I believe the military establishment's
primary goal has been to perpetuate itself, to keep as many men and
women in uniform as possible.

Dr. Cabrera chose a soldier's life and took a soldier's chances.
According to my wife, he was a terrific psychotherapist, something the
military is in great need of these days.

That's odd, you've shown your disdain for every veteran that posts in
rec.boats.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

...and what are you a vereran of...the swamp wars?



Lil Snookums iLoogy just isn't very bright. My disdain for the
right-wing veterans who post here is based primarily upon their
right-wing and typically racist statements and positions. I have no
respect for Herring and Flajim because they're assholes, not because
they were in the military. My lack of respect for Bertiepoop Robbins is
not based upon his stateside stint in the marines but his "I've got
mine, so **** you" attitude. I doubt these turds learned their
anti-social ways in the military.

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On Nov 11, 9:44*am, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , dump-on-
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On 11/11/11 7:18 AM, John H wrote:
On Fri, 11 Nov 2011 04:55:41 -0500, *wrote:

On 11/10/2011 11:14 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 10/11/2011 7:21 PM, X ` Man wrote:

A classmate and colleague of my wife, Lt. Col. David E. Cabrera, was
killed recently in Afghanistan

RIP. Condolences to the family.

But if 0bama kept his promises he would still be alive.

I am just surprised Harry hasn't told us how worthless the guy was for
joining up. I mean, we all know the disdain he has for enlisted men and
women... Just ask John...

Nope. According to his comments, I was 'stupid', because I let myself get drafted.

My disdain is for the military establishment generally, the
"corporation," so to speak, and not those who wear the uniform, with
certain exceptions to the latter, you being one of them.

Since the end of World War II, I believe the military establishment's
primary goal has been to perpetuate itself, to keep as many men and
women in uniform as possible.

Dr. Cabrera chose a soldier's life and took a soldier's chances.
According to my wife, he was a terrific psychotherapist, something the
military is in great need of these days.

That's odd, you've shown your disdain for every veteran that posts in
rec.boats.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

...and what are you a vereran of...the swamp wars?

U.S. Navy, why do you ask?

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On 11/11/11 9:16 AM, North Star wrote:
On Nov 11, 9:44 am, wrote:
In articlel8qdnT6WEeeeiyDTnZ2dnUVZ_uedn...@earthlink .com, dump-on-
says...







On 11/11/11 7:18 AM, John H wrote:
On Fri, 11 Nov 2011 04:55:41 -0500, wrote:

On 11/10/2011 11:14 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 10/11/2011 7:21 PM, X ` Man wrote:

A classmate and colleague of my wife, Lt. Col. David E. Cabrera, was
killed recently in Afghanistan

RIP. Condolences to the family.

But if 0bama kept his promises he would still be alive.

I am just surprised Harry hasn't told us how worthless the guy was for
joining up. I mean, we all know the disdain he has for enlisted men and
women... Just ask John...

Nope. According to his comments, I was 'stupid', because I let myself get drafted.

My disdain is for the military establishment generally, the
"corporation," so to speak, and not those who wear the uniform, with
certain exceptions to the latter, you being one of them.

Since the end of World War II, I believe the military establishment's
primary goal has been to perpetuate itself, to keep as many men and
women in uniform as possible.

Dr. Cabrera chose a soldier's life and took a soldier's chances.
According to my wife, he was a terrific psychotherapist, something the
military is in great need of these days.

That's odd, you've shown your disdain for every veteran that posts in
rec.boats.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

...and what are you a vereran of...the swamp wars?



Lil Snookums iLoogy just isn't very bright. My disdain for the
right-wing veterans who post here is based primarily upon their
right-wing and typically racist statements and positions. I have no
respect for Herring and Flajim because they're assholes, not because
they were in the military. My lack of respect for Bertiepoop Robbins is
not based upon his stateside stint in the marines but his "I've got
mine, so **** you" attitude. I doubt these turds learned their
anti-social ways in the military.

Bull****! I guess you forgot these quotes by you:

Indeed, going off to Vietnam to participate as a draftee soldier in that
war was the height of stupidity. Nothing was accomplished there, and
more than a million lives were wasted

I'm sorry, Stinky, but I'm just not impressed with boasts about serving
one's
country by being in the military. We haven't been in a war in nearly
three
decades, and the last one we were in...we would have been better served
by you
if you had not joined the Marines and had instead carried a picket sign,

My country helped kill a million SE Asians, and it had no interest in
doing so or being there. Why would any rational adult want to
participate in that sort of mass murder?

There are hundreds more, you lying coward.

On 11/11/2011 9:22 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 11/11/11 9:16 AM, North Star wrote:

...and what are you a vereran of...the swamp wars?



Lil Snookums iLoogy just isn't very bright. My disdain for the
right-wing veterans who post here is based primarily upon their
*right-wing* and typically racist statements and positions. I have no
respect for Herring and Flajim because they're assholes, not because
they were in the military. My lack of respect for Bertiepoop Robbins is
not based upon his stateside stint in the marines but his "I've got
mine, so **** you" attitude. I doubt these turds learned their
anti-social ways in the military.


No list of assholes is complete without the inclusion of Harry Krause. I
suppose that would also mean you have no self respect. Most cowards don't.

--
Jack Schidt

On 11/11/2011 5:33 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 11/11/11 7:18 AM, John H wrote:
On Fri, 11 Nov 2011 04:55:41 -0500,
wrote:

On 11/10/2011 11:14 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 10/11/2011 7:21 PM, X ` Man wrote:

A classmate and colleague of my wife, Lt. Col. David E. Cabrera, was
killed recently in Afghanistan

RIP. Condolences to the family.

But if 0bama kept his promises he would still be alive.


I am just surprised Harry hasn't told us how worthless the guy was for
joining up. I mean, we all know the disdain he has for enlisted men and
women... Just ask John...

Nope. According to his comments, I was 'stupid', because I let myself
get drafted.

My disdain is for the military establishment generally, the
"corporation," so to speak, and not those who wear the uniform, with
certain exceptions to the latter, you being one of them.

Since the end of World War II, I believe the military establishment's
primary goal has been to perpetuate itself, to keep as many men and
women in uniform as possible.

Dr. Cabrera chose a soldier's life and took a soldier's chances.
According to my wife, he was a terrific psychotherapist, something the
military is in great need of these days.


It is like anything else. Honest good people at the bottom and scum
floats to the top to serve the politicians. Your gripe is at the top.

As the rank and file willing to serve your country is a reflection of he
best USA people have to offer.

But your fleabagger mind can't differentiate.

--
The reason government can't fix the economic problems is government is
the problem.

On 11/11/2011 7:33 AM, X ` Man wrote:

My disdain is for the military establishment generally, the
"corporation," so to speak, and not those who wear the uniform, with
certain exceptions to the latter, you being one of them.

Bull****. There are no exceptions in your contempt and scorn for
military folks.

And now you have besmirched the reputation of Lt. Col. David E. Cabrera
by associating his name with yours, Harry Krause. The former gave his
life for what he believed in, while you are a sniveling coward behind a
keyboard in Maryland, who never misses an opportunity to traduce the men
and women of the military.

You have repeatedly described this NG as a cesspool, and now you have
dragged Lt. Col. David E. Cabrera's name into the cesspool with you.

Despicable.

On 11/11/2011 1:53 PM, Ombudsman wrote:
On 11/11/2011 7:33 AM, X ` Man wrote:

My disdain is for the military establishment generally, the
"corporation," so to speak, and not those who wear the uniform, with
certain exceptions to the latter, you being one of them.

Bull****. There are no exceptions in your contempt and scorn for
military folks.

And now you have besmirched the reputation of Lt. Col. David E. Cabrera
by associating his name with yours, Harry Krause. The former gave his
life for what he believed in, while you are a sniveling coward behind a
keyboard in Maryland, who never misses an opportunity to traduce the men
and women of the military.

You have repeatedly described this NG as a cesspool, and now you have
dragged Lt. Col. David E. Cabrera's name into the cesspool with you.

Despicable.

Hey. That's Harry the snowflake you are talking about. He was a BMOC in
his day. Actually he was the only MOC. The other men were off serving
their country in various ways.

--
1-20-13 The end of an error

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says...

On 11/11/2011 1:53 PM, Ombudsman wrote:
On 11/11/2011 7:33 AM, X ` Man wrote:

My disdain is for the military establishment generally, the
"corporation," so to speak, and not those who wear the uniform, with
certain exceptions to the latter, you being one of them.

Bull****. There are no exceptions in your contempt and scorn for
military folks.

And now you have besmirched the reputation of Lt. Col. David E. Cabrera
by associating his name with yours, Harry Krause. The former gave his
life for what he believed in, while you are a sniveling coward behind a
keyboard in Maryland, who never misses an opportunity to traduce the men
and women of the military.

You have repeatedly described this NG as a cesspool, and now you have
dragged Lt. Col. David E. Cabrera's name into the cesspool with you.

Despicable.

Hey. That's Harry the snowflake you are talking about. He was a BMOC in
his day. Actually he was the only MOC. The other men were off serving
their country in various ways.

"other men"? Are you saying that Harry is a man?

"X ` Man" wrote in message
m...

On 11/11/11 7:18 AM, John H wrote:

Nope. According to his comments, I was 'stupid', because I let myself get
drafted.

My disdain is for the military establishment generally, the
"corporation," so to speak, and not those who wear the uniform, with
certain exceptions to the latter, you being one of them.
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That's not the impression you leave here Harry. You may not like John or
agree with him politically
or for other reasons, but you've often posed questions like:

"How many innocent Vietnamese did you kill?" and other quips to that
effect.

That's foul ball, IMO. John, me or anyone else that served in the military
didn't make policy.
We did what we took an oath to do. You may disagree with that, I might even
disagree
today, 43 years later and 43 years wiser, but at the time we did what we
were required to do.
It's not a subject to be taken lightly.

BTW ... being Veterans Day and all, I happened to be listening to another
left-leaning spokesperson
going on and on about the military, it's personnel and the disproportionate
number of minorities,
undereducated and economically disadvantaged people that make up the ranks
because they have few other options.
You have also made similar claims.

I decided to do my own "fact checking" about these claims. Turns out, it's
BS.

Here's a few facts I discovered with very little Google effort:

Current active duty military personnel represent less than half of 1 percent
of the US population.
That's a very small number doing the dirty work for the rest of the
population.

Less than 9 percent of the current US population are either currently
serving in the military or are military veterans.
Most people guess around 25 to 30 percent.

Here's one that may surprise you:

Contrary to popular belief or myth, the average person in today’s US
military is better educated than their
civilian peers as a group. One (1) percent of active duty service members
lack a high school diploma.
Over 20 percent of civilians over the age of 25 lack a high school diploma.
BTW ... 95 percent of military officers
hold at least a Bachelor’s Degree; many hold advanced postgrad degrees.

and:

Contrary to popular belief or myth, enlistees in today’s military are not
predominately from low income
families or backgrounds. Eleven (11) percent of enlistees come from the
poorest US neighborhoods. 25 percent
come from the wealthiest US neighborhoods. The rest fall somewhere between.

Eisboch