On Sun, 20 Nov 2011 01:08:55 -0500, wrote:

On Sat, 19 Nov 2011 14:30:24 -0500, wrote:


Bob? What's the matter, did Olbermann lie to you again or was it Thom
Hartman?

notice how the right denies we're in a depression? after all, the rich
are doing great!

On 11/20/11 6:50 AM, bpuharic wrote:
On Sun, 20 Nov 2011 01:08:55 -0500, wrote:

On Sat, 19 Nov 2011 14:30:24 -0500, wrote:


Bob? What's the matter, did Olbermann lie to you again or was it Thom
Hartman?

notice how the right denies we're in a depression? after all, the rich
are doing great

It's time to upscale the kinds of protests the 99% are engaging in and
make them much more personal. Not violent, just personal.

On 11/20/11 11:03 AM, wrote:
On Sun, 20 Nov 2011 07:09:35 -0500, X ` Man
wrote:

On 11/20/11 6:50 AM, bpuharic wrote:
On Sun, 20 Nov 2011 01:08:55 -0500, wrote:

On Sat, 19 Nov 2011 14:30:24 -0500, wrote:


Bob? What's the matter, did Olbermann lie to you again or was it Thom
Hartman?

notice how the right denies we're in a depression? after all, the rich
are doing great

It's time to upscale the kinds of protests the 99% are engaging in and
make them much more personal. Not violent, just personal.

That 1% does seem to be more like 53%. Are you suffering from the
depression? You just bought a new boat didn't you?

What success I have is partly because the
research/writing/editing/marketing services I provide, plus the speed
and confidentiality I offer, can't realistically be off-shored or done
by cheaper beginners in the biz...that and the fact that most of my
clients are long-time clients.

I don't make any of my money by manipulating the market, the assets of
others, off-shoring, firing people or otherwise engaging in the
predatory practices of the Wall Street/Banking/Corporate Higher Echelon
types.

On Sun, 20 Nov 2011 11:03:52 -0500, wrote:

On Sun, 20 Nov 2011 07:09:35 -0500, X ` Man
wrote:

On 11/20/11 6:50 AM, bpuharic wrote:
On Sun, 20 Nov 2011 01:08:55 -0500, wrote:

On Sat, 19 Nov 2011 14:30:24 -0500, wrote:


Bob? What's the matter, did Olbermann lie to you again or was it Thom
Hartman?

notice how the right denies we're in a depression? after all, the rich
are doing great

It's time to upscale the kinds of protests the 99% are engaging in and
make them much more personal. Not violent, just personal.

That 1% does seem to be more like 53%

a nice little lie told by the right to make sure they continue to hate
the middle class

Maybe Bob is just preaching to the wrong audience. He should go to
alt.roadkill.recipies if he wants to find people who are suffering
like him.

yeah let's just ignore what's happening in the US.

perhaps we can be like egypt.

On Sun, 20 Nov 2011 10:59:29 -0500, wrote:

On Sun, 20 Nov 2011 06:50:51 -0500, bpuharic wrote:

On Sun, 20 Nov 2011 01:08:55 -0500, wrote:

On Sat, 19 Nov 2011 14:30:24 -0500, wrote:


Bob? What's the matter, did Olbermann lie to you again or was it Thom
Hartman?

notice how the right denies we're in a depression? after all, the rich
are doing great!

Changing the subject again? I see you snipped your lie about who Wall
Street was bribing and the proof that it was a lie. (From the FEC)

i notice you ignored the fact wall street sends 75% of its PAC money
to the GOP.

figures. you're right wing

On Sun, 20 Nov 2011 11:17:30 -0500, X ` Man
wrote:


I don't make any of my money by manipulating the market, the assets of
others, off-shoring, firing people or otherwise engaging in the
predatory practices of the Wall Street/Banking/Corporate Higher Echelon
types.

finally someone on the right admits this happens.

to listen to the perry/romney/cain crowd, it's all the fault of the
middle class and wall street is blameless.

On 20/11/2011 9:18 AM, bpuharic wrote:
On Sun, 20 Nov 2011 11:03:52 -0500, wrote:

On Sun, 20 Nov 2011 07:09:35 -0500, X ` Man
wrote:

On 11/20/11 6:50 AM, bpuharic wrote:
On Sun, 20 Nov 2011 01:08:55 -0500, wrote:

On Sat, 19 Nov 2011 14:30:24 -0500, wrote:


Bob? What's the matter, did Olbermann lie to you again or was it Thom
Hartman?

notice how the right denies we're in a depression? after all, the rich
are doing great

It's time to upscale the kinds of protests the 99% are engaging in and
make them much more personal. Not violent, just personal.

That 1% does seem to be more like 53%

a nice little lie told by the right to make sure they continue to hate
the middle class

Maybe Bob is just preaching to the wrong audience. He should go to
alt.roadkill.recipies if he wants to find people who are suffering
like him.

yeah let's just ignore what's happening in the US.

perhaps we can be like egypt.

Who knows? If you fleabaggers keep voting for the problem living like
Egyptians might eventually become a reality. No wealth in a delinquent
debt-corruption spending government. Just debt-tax slavery.

In one economic model I maintain, goes something like this. As US debt
increases, a slow but sure devaluation of USD will occur, and it could
accelerate without much notice. Devaluation means fewer other countries
will want the depreciating USD currency. With the Yuan appreciating on
the USD, it will eventually replace the USD as the worlds reserve
currency. In this scenario, a flood of low value USDs will render the
US currency to a much lower value, say $100/gallon of gas. The model
says the USA economy has passed its peek and will decline in prosperity
for at leas 2 decades.

The model uses the same theory as what actually happened with Japan's
lost decades, so based on fact, not liberal academic bull****, it has
much higher probabilities as it is based on actual precedent.

Given China, Russia and India's momentum, USA will not just slide to
second place, but at least drop to 3rd place or lower inside of 12
years. I predict 2nd place in 4 years.

Hey, when no one wants USDs the US currency is going to go through a
rapid devaluation cycle. Because the US government is so economically
weak, it can't support the USD with higher rates. A zero rate declining
economy will be the inevitable result.

History is no going to treat the 2006 democrat congress, Bernanke and
0bama very well when the dust and bull**** clear.

--
The reason government can't fix the economic problems as government is
the problem.

On 20/11/2011 10:26 AM, wrote:
On Sun, 20 Nov 2011 11:17:30 -0500, X ` Man
wrote:

On 11/20/11 11:03 AM, wrote:

That 1% does seem to be more like 53%. Are you suffering from the
depression? You just bought a new boat didn't you?

What success I have is partly because the
research/writing/editing/marketing services I provide, plus the speed
and confidentiality I offer, can't realistically be off-shored or done
by cheaper beginners in the biz...that and the fact that most of my
clients are long-time clients.

I don't make any of my money by manipulating the market, the assets of
others, off-shoring, firing people or otherwise engaging in the
predatory practices of the Wall Street/Banking/Corporate Higher Echelon
types.

Most people make their money from doing a good job and providing a
service people want, that is my point.
I am not happy with money making money but that is really a pretty
small minority of the people on the Forbes 400.

Money making money isn't bad. The gripe I have is the corruption.

Take a career of a working person. At 17 finishing high school. Gets
more specialized education either academically or a trade. They work,
they accumulate savings and earned wealth. They get a start, then a
family. They put out like slave, feeding the family, paying the taxes
and if wise, saving for themselves. Pick up a hobbies that pays,
investing and read books and learn how to manage your savings.

But you become 50s, the bones start to creak, the physical energy drops
off, kids gone....time to evolve your life. Well, if you saved and
invested, just work less hours, less time and live longer. Others need
your capital to make business work, you invest in that and they pay you
a small return (dividend).

Hey, it is fair, as 4% dividend for the capital is a better deal than
35% income tax with more taxes extra to the government for a load of
bull****.

I am not an anarchist, but taxes should be limited to supporting roads,
schools, water, sewer and stuff that directly supports the economy
across the board. No need for 50% of what DC does and supporting union
corruption and entitlement, and those pure corruption bailouts...

Fact is governments in the west have become too big and corrupt for our
own good.

--
All successful people have one thing in common, if even for a moment
they think rationally.

On Sun, 20 Nov 2011 11:09:30 -0700, Canuck57
wrote:

On 20/11/2011 9:18 AM, bpuharic wrote:
On Sun, 20 Nov 2011 11:03:52 -0500, wrote:

On Sun, 20 Nov 2011 07:09:35 -0500, X ` Man
wrote:


a nice little lie told by the right to make sure they continue to hate
the middle class

Maybe Bob is just preaching to the wrong audience. He should go to
alt.roadkill.recipies if he wants to find people who are suffering
like him.

yeah let's just ignore what's happening in the US.

perhaps we can be like egypt.

Who knows? If you fleabaggers keep voting for the problem living like
Egyptians might eventually become a reality. No wealth in a delinquent
debt-corruption spending government. Just debt-tax slavery.

HAHAHAH you LOVE wall street. you worship it. you believe wall street
corruption is of god. we're becoming like egypt, with a small rich
class and a large poor class

and you think that's great. all the while complaining about
'corruption'...which, you think, is limited to the middle class


In one economic model I maintain, goes something like this. As US debt
increases

our current depression has NOTHING to do with debt. not a damn thing.
you're too stupid about economics to know this


, a slow but sure devaluation of USD will occur, and it could
accelerate without much notice. Devaluation means fewer other countries
will want the depreciating USD currency

let's see...current bond rates in the US are about 1%

seems like EVERYONE wants to buy our debt

you're just too stupid to know this

..

Given China, Russia and India's momentum, USA will not just slide to
second place, but at least drop to 3rd place or lower inside of 12
years. I predict 2nd place in 4 years.

russia??

did you REALLY include RUSSIA???

HAHAHAHAHA

and who says china will CONTINUE to grow? you're telling me that a
socialist system will outperform the free market capitalism you
believe is of god??


History is no going to treat the 2006 democrat congress, Bernanke and
0bama very well when the dust and bull**** clear.

you're too stupid to know the roots of our depression started LONG
before 2006

you're pathetic

On Sun, 20 Nov 2011 12:27:49 -0500, wrote:

On Sun, 20 Nov 2011 11:18:47 -0500, bpuharic wrote:

On Sun, 20 Nov 2011 10:59:29 -0500, wrote:

On Sun, 20 Nov 2011 06:50:51 -0500, bpuharic wrote:

On Sun, 20 Nov 2011 01:08:55 -0500, wrote:

On Sat, 19 Nov 2011 14:30:24 -0500, wrote:


Bob? What's the matter, did Olbermann lie to you again or was it Thom
Hartman?

notice how the right denies we're in a depression? after all, the rich
are doing great!

Changing the subject again? I see you snipped your lie about who Wall
Street was bribing and the proof that it was a lie. (From the FEC)

i notice you ignored the fact wall street sends 75% of its PAC money
to the GOP.

figures. you're right wing

I suppose you have a citation for that ... or do you want me to look
that up too?

well let's see what we can find, shall we? because you guys haven't
been told the truth by faux news:

http://www.usatoday.com/NEWS/usaedit...paign_ST_U.htm

Employees of the nation's six largest financial firms, including Bank
of America and Citigroup, pumped more than $750,000 into Romney's
campaign since April 1 while donating just a fraction of that amount,
$82,000, to Obama. Perry received nearly $47,000 from employees of
these firms.

The Wall Street trend is a stark reversal from 2008, when securities
and investment firms were among the top five industries backing Obama.

did i say 3:1?

more like 10:1 to the GOP.

christ are you guys DUMB