On 11/17/11 2:58 PM, North Star wrote:
On Nov 17, 2:35 pm, wrote:
You stupid ****, Suckling Don!! Everyone here knows that you and Harry
are the biggest cowards around. IF you were "better men" you both
wouldn't back out of every bet you've issued here. Now, do you want to
come to my house or not? When you get to Philly, contact me, I'll give
you directions right here. Same goes for Harry. Also, Harry is close
enough that I'll come to HIM, all he has to do is meet me in a parking
lot. I wonder how his clients will like the fact that he's going around
issuing threats of violence?

A couple days ago you said you'd met me half way.. and I chose Maine.
As expected, you were a 'no show'.
Do you really expect me to travel all the way to Philly so you can re-
direct me to your drug supplier.... probably in a housing project in
a questionable part of the city?


Little iLoogy is so slow he doesn't realize that if I wanted to, I could
show up at any almost any public place in Maryland with a concealed
firearm. Those of us with Maryland concealed carry permits can do that.
D'oh. And he could be arrested on public property for fighting, too.

It matters not...he wouldn't show under any circumstance.

On 17/11/2011 4:10 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 11/16/11 10:54 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 16/11/2011 7:53 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 11/16/11 8:50 PM, Canuck57 wrote:


I can buy multiple PCs for the price of one Mac. The PCs run Solaris,
Linux, VirtualBox and Win7 all at once.

And if you mean those under powered little crappy Macs, you get what
you
pay for. Plus in Canada, they don't price them fairly, about 30% more
expensive here. So I boycott the idiots.

Granted, BSD UNIX is better, but I run that in a VM.


That you run cheesy PC's is no concern of mine. My work requires a good
word processor, a good email client, good software to prepare
presentations, and web creation and editing suites, and some other
mainstream business software, All of that runs nicely on my iMac and
Macbook Pro.

OpenOffice
Thunderbird
Firefox
GIMP
KompoZer
Wireshark
VirtualBox
PGP and more.


Dozens of others.

I can run open office, t'bird, firefox, gimp, PGP, kompozer, and
probably virtual box under VM. So what's your point?

Your a sucker to pay more than you need too. But then it was your
wife's money.

--
The reason government can't fix the economic problems as government is
the problem.

On 17/11/2011 7:09 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In ,
says...

On 11/17/2011 6:10 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 11/16/11 10:54 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 16/11/2011 7:53 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 11/16/11 8:50 PM, Canuck57 wrote:


I can buy multiple PCs for the price of one Mac. The PCs run Solaris,
Linux, VirtualBox and Win7 all at once.

And if you mean those under powered little crappy Macs, you get what
you
pay for. Plus in Canada, they don't price them fairly, about 30% more
expensive here. So I boycott the idiots.

Granted, BSD UNIX is better, but I run that in a VM.


That you run cheesy PC's is no concern of mine. My work requires a good
word processor, a good email client, good software to prepare
presentations, and web creation and editing suites, and some other
mainstream business software, All of that runs nicely on my iMac and
Macbook Pro.

OpenOffice
Thunderbird
Firefox
GIMP
KompoZer
Wireshark
VirtualBox
PGP and more.


Dozens of others.

I can run open office, t'bird, firefox, gimp, PGP, kompozer, and
probably virtual box under VM. So what's your point?

His point is that he isn't stuck with a proprietary, overpriced nintendo...

Bingo, I don't even have iTunes on my PC's. Apple software gets ahold of
your computer and tries to take over. I think Apple products are for
people who can't do things for themselves, thus they like having
software do everything for them.

PCs today on main line equipment is just as good.

It was a problem in the past, 2003 was plug and pray. But I doubt much
Apple equipment circa 2003 is in use any more either. Computers go
obsolete in 3 years, no sense in spending too much on them.

And I too don't load the Apple crap ware for the same reasons.

--
The reason government can't fix the economic problems as government is
the problem.

On 17/11/2011 8:37 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 11/17/11 8:42 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 11/17/2011 6:10 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 11/16/11 10:54 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 16/11/2011 7:53 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 11/16/11 8:50 PM, Canuck57 wrote:


I can buy multiple PCs for the price of one Mac. The PCs run Solaris,
Linux, VirtualBox and Win7 all at once.

And if you mean those under powered little crappy Macs, you get what
you
pay for. Plus in Canada, they don't price them fairly, about 30% more
expensive here. So I boycott the idiots.

Granted, BSD UNIX is better, but I run that in a VM.


That you run cheesy PC's is no concern of mine. My work requires a
good
word processor, a good email client, good software to prepare
presentations, and web creation and editing suites, and some other
mainstream business software, All of that runs nicely on my iMac and
Macbook Pro.

OpenOffice
Thunderbird
Firefox
GIMP
KompoZer
Wireshark
VirtualBox
PGP and more.


Dozens of others.

I can run open office, t'bird, firefox, gimp, PGP, kompozer, and
probably virtual box under VM. So what's your point?

His point is that he isn't stuck with a proprietary, overpriced
nintendo...


Snerk. I can buy whatever computer tickles my fancy. I switched away
from Windows machines a few years ago. The Apple OS is pretty much Unix
with a candy shell around it. I've programmed a few things, but I'm not
much interested in programming. Never was, though I did learn how to
program in Pascal years ago.

You know Pascal is a sissy language for beginners. Probably as far as
you got.

Your comments about Macs are just further evidence of your ignorance. I
simply prefer the Macs these days. Your concept of "overpriced" is just
a reflection of your limited capabilities. The hardware and OS in my
Macs are more than capable of handling my business and personal
computing needs.

Hey, money no object and excluding value for the money, Apple is a good
machine.

But price up a quad-processor laptop with 17" display and 8gb of RAM and
1TB HD, Apple pricing sucks the big one for value and are no better or
different in the end.

--
The reason government can't fix the economic problems as government is
the problem.

On 11/17/11 4:33 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 17/11/2011 8:37 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 11/17/11 8:42 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 11/17/2011 6:10 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 11/16/11 10:54 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 16/11/2011 7:53 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 11/16/11 8:50 PM, Canuck57 wrote:


I can buy multiple PCs for the price of one Mac. The PCs run
Solaris,
Linux, VirtualBox and Win7 all at once.

And if you mean those under powered little crappy Macs, you get what
you
pay for. Plus in Canada, they don't price them fairly, about 30%
more
expensive here. So I boycott the idiots.

Granted, BSD UNIX is better, but I run that in a VM.


That you run cheesy PC's is no concern of mine. My work requires a
good
word processor, a good email client, good software to prepare
presentations, and web creation and editing suites, and some other
mainstream business software, All of that runs nicely on my iMac and
Macbook Pro.

OpenOffice
Thunderbird
Firefox
GIMP
KompoZer
Wireshark
VirtualBox
PGP and more.


Dozens of others.

I can run open office, t'bird, firefox, gimp, PGP, kompozer, and
probably virtual box under VM. So what's your point?

His point is that he isn't stuck with a proprietary, overpriced
nintendo...


Snerk. I can buy whatever computer tickles my fancy. I switched away
from Windows machines a few years ago. The Apple OS is pretty much Unix
with a candy shell around it. I've programmed a few things, but I'm not
much interested in programming. Never was, though I did learn how to
program in Pascal years ago.

You know Pascal is a sissy language for beginners. Probably as far as
you got.

Your comments about Macs are just further evidence of your ignorance. I
simply prefer the Macs these days. Your concept of "overpriced" is just
a reflection of your limited capabilities. The hardware and OS in my
Macs are more than capable of handling my business and personal
computing needs.

Hey, money no object and excluding value for the money, Apple is a good
machine.

But price up a quad-processor laptop with 17" display and 8gb of RAM and
1TB HD, Apple pricing sucks the big one for value and are no better or
different in the end.


I mostly use my laptop for checking and writing email while on the road.
No need for a quad processor, 17" laptop for that. My next laptop will
be an iPad.

On 11/15/2011 3:45 PM, X ` Man wrote:
One of the hard drives on one of my aging Apple computers has been dying
for a couple of weeks. It finally gave up the ghost yesterday. Called
Apple Care and the tech suggested about four different ways to try to
resuscitate it, to no avail.


So he made an appointment for me at the local Apple store. I showed up,
tech said "go to lunch." Came back 90 minutes later, new hard drive in
machine, running diagnostics.

No charge for labor or parts.



Love it.

Do you love the way Apple is polluting China?

"Apple recently had a meeting with Chinese environmental groups during
which it admitted that 15 of the plants it uses in its supply chain
violate China’s environmental regulations. The Cupertino-based company
has typically ignored any accusations that its plants are over
polluting. Apple reportedly made the admission during a three-hour
discussion with the EnviroFriends Institute of Environmental Science and
Technology, Friends of Nature and the Institute of Public and
Environmental Affairs."

On Thu, 17 Nov 2011 12:10:52 -0500, wrote:

On Thu, 17 Nov 2011 08:00:12 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Thu, 17 Nov 2011 02:18:02 -0500, wrote:

The 33xx drives just failed hard but they really didn't fail that
often. Most failures didn't actually lose data unless you had a head
crash.

===

Once your DASD farm got up to 1,000 plus drives of slightly aging
33xx's, unit failures became almost a weekly occurrence, each one
requiring a huge amount of time and effort to recover the data.

Nashua 3330 disk packs ;-)

I didn't really see that many HDA related failures and we had lots of
DASD.
I agree the RAID 5 RAMAC made data loss a lot more rare but that
really sets people up for a disaster. The more frequently you have a
failure, the better you keep your stuff backed up.

====

The 3350s were better but not immune either. I think IBM was quoting
a MTTF of something like 7 years but that is a statistical mean.
Some fail quicker. Even at an average of 7 years, once you get to
several thousand units the probability of experiencing a failure in
any given week is quite high.

On 11/17/11 7:25 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 17 Nov 2011 14:33:12 -0700,
wrote:

On 17/11/2011 8:37 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 11/17/11 8:42 AM, JustWait wrote:

Your comments about Macs are just further evidence of your ignorance. I
simply prefer the Macs these days. Your concept of "overpriced" is just
a reflection of your limited capabilities. The hardware and OS in my
Macs are more than capable of handling my business and personal
computing needs.

Hey, money no object and excluding value for the money, Apple is a good
machine.

But price up a quad-processor laptop with 17" display and 8gb of RAM and
1TB HD, Apple pricing sucks the big one for value and are no better or
different in the end.

My neighbor, a snowbird from Germany and I have had this Apple/PC
argument a few times and the bottom line is, he doesn't want to know
he has a computer, it is just an appliance to him.
I like computers and I like working with them so it doesn't bother me
knowing I have a computer..


My iMac has a 27" screen, an intel i7 processor, 16 gigabytes of RAM, a
one terabyte hard drive and is "served" by an 8 terabyte Synology
server. Gee, I wonder what apps significant to me I can't run on this
mac and if it is only available under a MS OS, under Windows 7 under
VMware?

For most users, the hardware platform no longer is relevant.

On Thu, 17 Nov 2011 19:19:01 -0500, wrote:

If you buy them when they are 3 years old you can get PCs real cheap
or free.

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Let me know if you'd like a couple of industrial strength, rack
mountable, dual processor Xeon servers. Lots of memory and super
fast. I bought them on the cheap. They work fine but too much fan
noise and heat for in my office.

wrote in message ...

On Wed, 16 Nov 2011 11:09:01 -0500, X ` Man
wrote:

I had a choice of drives for my server, so I bought four of these:

Seagate Constellation ES 2 TB Internal hard drive - 300 MBps - 7200 rpm


Seagate/Maxtor is a pretty good drive


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The problem with Apple, at least in former days, was you had to buy the
drive from Apple at excessive price. Same frikken drive as on a PC but with
a unique identifier in the SCSI packet. I designed Maxtor drives and they
were the same exact drive except for the identifier. The problem with WD
drives was getting them to be reliable at 7200 rpm. As Jim McCoy, Chairman
of Maxtor when I worked there, stated, anyone can build a 3600 rpm drive,
hard to handle the head flying and control at 7200 rpm. Lots of turbulence
at the extra rpm.