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On 11/18/11 2:27 PM, Boating All Out wrote:
In , dump-on-
says...

On 11/18/11 12:37 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 18 Nov 2011 06:21:22 -0500, X ` Man
wrote:

My iMac has a 27" screen, an intel i7 processor, 16 gigabytes of RAM, a
one terabyte hard drive and is "served" by an 8 terabyte Synology
server. Gee, I wonder what apps significant to me I can't run on this
mac and if it is only available under a MS OS, under Windows 7 under
VMware?

For most users, the hardware platform no longer is relevant.


But you don't want to swap a hard drive.


I don't need to...Apple does it for me.

Like I said, for people who don't want to know they have a computer.



Absurd.

No, but maybe behind the times.
It used to be that Apple was like taking a taxi everywhere, and Windows
was basically driving and maintaining your own car.
In terms of the OS, since Windows 7, and to some extent XP, that's
changed.
I've never had to tinker with Windows 7 - not a bit.
I don't know anything about Apple hardware.
I do know that with my Windows systems I can pick and choose among many
vendors to change hardware parts, and improve or fix anything myself
without relying on one vendor.
Pretty much like I can select the type of oil and filters for my car.
Or soup it up.
It's an "ownership" thing.
Saying "I don't need to...Apple does it for me." is no different than
saying "Call a cab, I got no car keys."




There are very few "user replaceable" pieces and parts on Apple iMacs
and laptop. You can swap out stuff more easily on the big box mac, which
looks like a PC in a super designed and finished box.

I can change out the hard drive, memory chips, and DVD drive on my
macbook pro laptop without much effort. There are many vendors for
these. I can also replace the hard drive with an SSD "drive," or put a
drive doubler in. What else would there be for an end-used to change in
a laptop? Not much.

On my iMac, I can change out memory chips for those of other vendors. I
can change out the hard drive. I can change out the DVD drive. I can
obviously use some other vendor's keyboards, which, in fact, I do (USB
keyboards). What's left, changing out the video chips? Probably not.
It's already got an intel iT CPU. If there is a major CPU upgrade next
year, I'll probably sell this iMac for a good price and get the latest
model.

Oh...I can remove and replace shingles on our roof...but I don't need to...

Ever?

On 11/18/2011 2:52 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article1dOdna1n0Iq2KVvTnZ2dnUVZ_q6dnZ2d@earthlink .com, dump-on-
says...

On 11/18/11 2:27 PM, Boating All Out wrote:
In , dump-on-
says...

On 11/18/11 12:37 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 18 Nov 2011 06:21:22 -0500, X ` Man
wrote:

My iMac has a 27" screen, an intel i7 processor, 16 gigabytes of RAM, a
one terabyte hard drive and is "served" by an 8 terabyte Synology
server. Gee, I wonder what apps significant to me I can't run on this
mac and if it is only available under a MS OS, under Windows 7 under
VMware?

For most users, the hardware platform no longer is relevant.


But you don't want to swap a hard drive.


I don't need to...Apple does it for me.

Like I said, for people who don't want to know they have a computer.



Absurd.

No, but maybe behind the times.
It used to be that Apple was like taking a taxi everywhere, and Windows
was basically driving and maintaining your own car.
In terms of the OS, since Windows 7, and to some extent XP, that's
changed.
I've never had to tinker with Windows 7 - not a bit.
I don't know anything about Apple hardware.
I do know that with my Windows systems I can pick and choose among many
vendors to change hardware parts, and improve or fix anything myself
without relying on one vendor.
Pretty much like I can select the type of oil and filters for my car.
Or soup it up.
It's an "ownership" thing.
Saying "I don't need to...Apple does it for me." is no different than
saying "Call a cab, I got no car keys."




There are very few "user replaceable" pieces and parts on Apple iMacs
and laptop. You can swap out stuff more easily on the big box mac, which
looks like a PC in a super designed and finished box.

I can change out the hard drive, memory chips, and DVD drive on my
macbook pro laptop without much effort. There are many vendors for
these. I can also replace the hard drive with an SSD "drive," or put a
drive doubler in. What else would there be for an end-used to change in
a laptop? Not much.

On my iMac, I can change out memory chips for those of other vendors. I
can change out the hard drive. I can change out the DVD drive. I can
obviously use some other vendor's keyboards, which, in fact, I do (USB
keyboards). What's left, changing out the video chips? Probably not.
It's already got an intel iT CPU. If there is a major CPU upgrade next
year, I'll probably sell this iMac for a good price and get the latest
model.

Oh...I can remove and replace shingles on our roof...but I don't need to...

Ever?

More lies. First off it's *her* roof. AND!
He's too old and fat to be climbing on a roof.

--
1-20-13 The end of an error

On 11/18/11 3:42 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 18 Nov 2011 13:27:31 -0600, Boating All Out
wrote:

In , dump-on-
says...

On 11/18/11 12:37 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 18 Nov 2011 06:21:22 -0500, X ` Man
wrote:

My iMac has a 27" screen, an intel i7 processor, 16 gigabytes of RAM, a
one terabyte hard drive and is "served" by an 8 terabyte Synology
server. Gee, I wonder what apps significant to me I can't run on this
mac and if it is only available under a MS OS, under Windows 7 under
VMware?

For most users, the hardware platform no longer is relevant.


But you don't want to swap a hard drive.


I don't need to...Apple does it for me.

Like I said, for people who don't want to know they have a computer.



Absurd.

No, but maybe behind the times.
It used to be that Apple was like taking a taxi everywhere, and Windows
was basically driving and maintaining your own car.
In terms of the OS, since Windows 7, and to some extent XP, that's
changed.
I've never had to tinker with Windows 7 - not a bit.
I don't know anything about Apple hardware.
I do know that with my Windows systems I can pick and choose among many
vendors to change hardware parts, and improve or fix anything myself
without relying on one vendor.
Pretty much like I can select the type of oil and filters for my car.
Or soup it up.
It's an "ownership" thing.
Saying "I don't need to...Apple does it for me." is no different than
saying "Call a cab, I got no car keys."



I look at it as Windoze lets you do things that Bill Gates did not
think you would ever want to and Apple simply tells you what Steve
Jobs allows you to do.

If I am willing to look around a little I can find a driver for just
about any kind of obscure hardware and the world is flush with windows
software.
I do like playing with the hardware tho.
I can understand people who just want to cut open the box and start
using their machine but you pay in spades for that and you plod along
a pretty narrow path. If that is where you want to go, it is good for
you.


You're a computer hobbyist. I am not. I earn my living as a writer with
my apple computers. I expect them to work and allow me to use my word
processors, printers, web clients, email clients, fax, whatever, without
any serious glitches. If my desktop apple craps out on me (as it did the
other day when the hard drive failed), I expect to be able to turn on my
backup macbook pro and continue where I left off. I can do this because
I back up work files fairly continuously, even as I work on them.

I have no reason to futz around with obscure hardware. If I want to do
that, I'll take apart and clean a fishing reel.

In article m,
says...

On 11/18/2011 2:52 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article1dOdna1n0Iq2KVvTnZ2dnUVZ_q6dnZ2d@earthlink .com, dump-on-
says...

On 11/18/11 2:27 PM, Boating All Out wrote:
In , dump-on-
says...

On 11/18/11 12:37 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 18 Nov 2011 06:21:22 -0500, X ` Man
wrote:

My iMac has a 27" screen, an intel i7 processor, 16 gigabytes of RAM, a
one terabyte hard drive and is "served" by an 8 terabyte Synology
server. Gee, I wonder what apps significant to me I can't run on this
mac and if it is only available under a MS OS, under Windows 7 under
VMware?

For most users, the hardware platform no longer is relevant.


But you don't want to swap a hard drive.


I don't need to...Apple does it for me.

Like I said, for people who don't want to know they have a computer.



Absurd.

No, but maybe behind the times.
It used to be that Apple was like taking a taxi everywhere, and Windows
was basically driving and maintaining your own car.
In terms of the OS, since Windows 7, and to some extent XP, that's
changed.
I've never had to tinker with Windows 7 - not a bit.
I don't know anything about Apple hardware.
I do know that with my Windows systems I can pick and choose among many
vendors to change hardware parts, and improve or fix anything myself
without relying on one vendor.
Pretty much like I can select the type of oil and filters for my car.
Or soup it up.
It's an "ownership" thing.
Saying "I don't need to...Apple does it for me." is no different than
saying "Call a cab, I got no car keys."




There are very few "user replaceable" pieces and parts on Apple iMacs
and laptop. You can swap out stuff more easily on the big box mac, which
looks like a PC in a super designed and finished box.

I can change out the hard drive, memory chips, and DVD drive on my
macbook pro laptop without much effort. There are many vendors for
these. I can also replace the hard drive with an SSD "drive," or put a
drive doubler in. What else would there be for an end-used to change in
a laptop? Not much.

On my iMac, I can change out memory chips for those of other vendors. I
can change out the hard drive. I can change out the DVD drive. I can
obviously use some other vendor's keyboards, which, in fact, I do (USB
keyboards). What's left, changing out the video chips? Probably not.
It's already got an intel iT CPU. If there is a major CPU upgrade next
year, I'll probably sell this iMac for a good price and get the latest
model.

Oh...I can remove and replace shingles on our roof...but I don't need to...

Ever?

More lies. First off it's *her* roof. AND!
He's too old and fat to be climbing on a roof.

I'd like to know what is so special about his roof shingles if the never
need to be replaced!

In article ,
says...

On 11/18/11 3:42 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 18 Nov 2011 13:27:31 -0600, Boating All Out
wrote:

In , dump-on-
says...

On 11/18/11 12:37 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 18 Nov 2011 06:21:22 -0500, X ` Man
wrote:

My iMac has a 27" screen, an intel i7 processor, 16 gigabytes of RAM, a
one terabyte hard drive and is "served" by an 8 terabyte Synology
server. Gee, I wonder what apps significant to me I can't run on this
mac and if it is only available under a MS OS, under Windows 7 under
VMware?

For most users, the hardware platform no longer is relevant.


But you don't want to swap a hard drive.


I don't need to...Apple does it for me.

Like I said, for people who don't want to know they have a computer.



Absurd.

No, but maybe behind the times.
It used to be that Apple was like taking a taxi everywhere, and Windows
was basically driving and maintaining your own car.
In terms of the OS, since Windows 7, and to some extent XP, that's
changed.
I've never had to tinker with Windows 7 - not a bit.
I don't know anything about Apple hardware.
I do know that with my Windows systems I can pick and choose among many
vendors to change hardware parts, and improve or fix anything myself
without relying on one vendor.
Pretty much like I can select the type of oil and filters for my car.
Or soup it up.
It's an "ownership" thing.
Saying "I don't need to...Apple does it for me." is no different than
saying "Call a cab, I got no car keys."



I look at it as Windoze lets you do things that Bill Gates did not
think you would ever want to and Apple simply tells you what Steve
Jobs allows you to do.

If I am willing to look around a little I can find a driver for just
about any kind of obscure hardware and the world is flush with windows
software.
I do like playing with the hardware tho.
I can understand people who just want to cut open the box and start
using their machine but you pay in spades for that and you plod along
a pretty narrow path. If that is where you want to go, it is good for
you.


You're a computer hobbyist. I am not. I earn my living as a writer with
my apple computers. I expect them to work and allow me to use my word
processors, printers, web clients, email clients, fax, whatever, without
any serious glitches. If my desktop apple craps out on me (as it did the
other day when the hard drive failed), I expect to be able to turn on my
backup macbook pro and continue where I left off. I can do this because
I back up work files fairly continuously, even as I work on them.

I have no reason to futz around with obscure hardware. If I want to do
that, I'll take apart and clean a fishing reel.

Fax? In 2011???

On 11/18/11 3:55 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 18 Nov 2011 14:38:19 -0500, X ` Man
wrote:

There are very few "user replaceable" pieces and parts on Apple iMacs
and laptop.

I agree all laptops are proprietary and there are few compatible
parts, even among laptops from the same company.
I have a few Dell laptops because they are usually cheaper, used, than
other brands. I wanted to swap out the HV power supply to the display
between 2 Dells that look virtually identical and they are completely
different parts. I know the IBM Think pads had very few compatible
parts between models.
It is why I like desk tops (except Dell) They all user the same basic
parts. I have a couple Dell desk tops that I was given and the most
valuable part for me is the XP Pro COA sticker. Bill has finally
decided it is OK to move the OS without calling them with a story.
They flow right through the online authorization.

I like desktops, too, but it's hard to get one into my messenger bag.

There's an iPad III coming out right after the beginning of the year.
Depending upon what it offers, I might get one...even easier to lug
around when I have to lug around a computer to check emails, do a little
editing of manuscripts, et cetera. I have a small, bluetooth Apple
keyboard stuffed away and the iPads work with them. To me, it's a better
alternative than the onscreen keyboards of these devices.

On 11/18/11 5:02 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 18 Nov 2011 15:57:07 -0500, wrote:

In ,


You're a computer hobbyist. I am not. I earn my living as a writer with
my apple computers. I expect them to work and allow me to use my word
processors, printers, web clients, email clients, fax, whatever, without
any serious glitches. If my desktop apple craps out on me (as it did the
other day when the hard drive failed), I expect to be able to turn on my
backup macbook pro and continue where I left off. I can do this because
I back up work files fairly continuously, even as I work on them.

I have no reason to futz around with obscure hardware. If I want to do
that, I'll take apart and clean a fishing reel.

Fax? In 2011???

The building industry still runs on Fax machines


I have a couple of long-time clients who prefer to use faxes. I don't
have a problem with receiving or sending them. I also prefer to read
books as books, not as electronic files on a reader.

On 11/18/11 5:05 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 18 Nov 2011 15:52:46 -0500, X `
wrote:

I look at it as Windoze lets you do things that Bill Gates did not
think you would ever want to and Apple simply tells you what Steve
Jobs allows you to do.

If I am willing to look around a little I can find a driver for just
about any kind of obscure hardware and the world is flush with windows
software.
I do like playing with the hardware tho.
I can understand people who just want to cut open the box and start
using their machine but you pay in spades for that and you plod along
a pretty narrow path. If that is where you want to go, it is good for
you.


You're a computer hobbyist. I am not. I earn my living as a writer with
my apple computers. I expect them to work and allow me to use my word
processors, printers, web clients, email clients, fax, whatever, without
any serious glitches. If my desktop apple craps out on me (as it did the
other day when the hard drive failed), I expect to be able to turn on my
backup macbook pro and continue where I left off. I can do this because
I back up work files fairly continuously, even as I work on them.

I have no reason to futz around with obscure hardware. If I want to do
that, I'll take apart and clean a fishing reel.


Like I said, you don't want to know you have a computer. You just want
an appliance.

OTOH I have never had a reason to take a fishing reel apart. ;-)

It's a lot more difficult than swapping out a hard drive or video card.

I take mine apart at least once a season to clean out any goop and
relube them.

On 11/18/11 8:06 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 18 Nov 2011 17:08:42 -0500, X ` Man
wrote:

On 11/18/11 5:05 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 18 Nov 2011 15:52:46 -0500, X `

Like I said, you don't want to know you have a computer. You just want
an appliance.

OTOH I have never had a reason to take a fishing reel apart. ;-)

It's a lot more difficult than swapping out a hard drive or video card.

I take mine apart at least once a season to clean out any goop and
relube them.

I don't fish enough to gunk up a reel and these days it is all fresh
water. I really can't imagine taking a reel apart is any harder than
pulling a bearing carrier or rebuilding a tilt and trim unit tho.


The reels have a plethora of teeny tiny pieces and parts.

North Star wrote:
Lucky for those two you're probably right.
I just like to jab at the snarling little dogs to get them frothing at
the mouth.
So you lied about staying here to improve the newsgroup? You are a
first class asshole with a ******** for a home, Don.

-HB (Collecting pistachio cash!)