On Mon, 21 Nov 2011 00:33:14 -0500, wrote:

On Sun, 20 Nov 2011 22:41:13 -0500, bpuharic wrote:

gee. IOW you dont know about the high unemployment in the US.

I just saw 30 people who were fired with no notice and all used their
personal initiative to go get a job.

ah, the right wing.

deny the facts

rely on reader's digest anecdotes...

no wonder they're delusional.


These were living breathing people who actually had good jobs.
It just was not what they were doing in 2006.
They took the personal initiative to change to fit a different job
market.

meaningless. someday the right will actually say something that normal
people can read

not today, however

On Sun, 20 Nov 2011 22:47:39 -0500, JustWait
wrote:

On 11/20/2011 10:43 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Sun, 20 Nov 2011 17:21:09 -0500, JustWait
wrote:


i gave you the website to look me up. sorry if you'[re too stupid to
use it

typical right winger. cant even click on a link


Don't care... Just disgusted you think you are special for doing
something most folks do... volunteer. You have no idea how much any of
us do, and/or if it's just as important to the folks we help as yours is
to the folks you say you help. But this whole "mine is better" thing is
quite harryesque, er, uh, progressive...

and i'm equally disgusted you right wingers think the noblest
enterprise of man is making a profit.

and how many lives did you say you helped save in the last year?

On 20/11/2011 8:36 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Sun, 20 Nov 2011 17:05:27 -0700,
wrote:

On 20/11/2011 12:46 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Sun, 20 Nov 2011 11:22:12 -0700,
wrote:

ah. so miraculously, somehow, in the last 3 years, the middle class in
the US lost their ****

yeah, typical right wing bull****.

Not at all. Some were living the middle class life and count afford it.

Big money can be made in depressions for the savvy.

except, of course, for the middle class. the rich CAUSED this
depression to line their pockets, the middle class PAID for it and the
right blames the middle class

more right wing bull****

Not at all. Stupid middle class idiots voted 0bama and fleabaggers into
DC don't take voting seriously enough.

so the first claim he makes is that obama was president in 1997 when
the seeds of the depression were laid...

yeah that sounds right wing.



gee. ever LOOK at the data on social mobility in the west? the US is
above ONLY the UK. other countries have higher social moiblity than
the US does

Too much apathy, self pity, whining to be any different.

yeah, more of blaming the victim.

Hey, pain is designed to serve a lesson on why not to do stupid stuff.
Usually served cold too.]

then he foillows up with a meaningless platitude


Social mobility doesnt' account for the fact that most Americans are
already near the top in affluence in the world, that is, you have more
to lose than to gain.

meaningless. the same can be said for the entire western world, where
america is losing ground

more right wing bull****

You silly fleabagger. Like a leach parasite, a blind sucker.

concluding with a complete non sequitur, based on no evidence at
all....


But then I wasn't raised like a cow to be dumb, stupid and milked like a
fleabagger.

no. you learned that on your own

Sure is, government is consumption of wealth. If your nations
production is lower than consumption, wealth dries up. That is what is
going on right now. Consumption of wealth exceeds the replacement of
the wealth. Simple.

so he lives in a country with

30% union membership

Herd control, most unions are like tame puppies. Not the government
ones, they get to **** the taxpayers good. Including the medical
unions. Not really the place you want to have union performance
problems I might add.

and socialized medicine

Yep, 40% of the city I live in can't find a family doctor that is taking
patients. Gets better, the waiting list for MRI or CT scan is 3-8
weeks. Get a possibly cancerous cyst in the gut, might be 6 months for
surgery and do the biopsy then. If it spreads, no need for government
pensions. They will ask if you work and the regional health authority
will decide how long you wait based on your taxable income.

and tells us how unions and socialized medicine will ruin the US and
he wouldnt live here because of them

golly. rightwiners are amazing

And in the US, you can change providers. In Canada, governemtn has your
money and if you don't like it tough ****.

Hey, if you have serious money and are the defacto boss of the health
care system in your province, you go to the USA:

http://www.darkdaily.com/newfoundlan...-in-canada-224

He could get the operation in Canada. Or perhaps didn't trust to.

Hey, judge how they walk not how they talk. When a politician faces
mortality, the truth gets out. William knew he was better off in Florida.

Government can't even make sure future little taxpayes get trated right:

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toront...foothills.html

Imagine having to go to another country on your own dime, maybe
reimbursed partially later because your own country doesn't have enough
beds for delivering babies. Happens across the prairies and into NW
Ontario too.

Every year, people bitch, some die and nothing changes.

But when they do they get lottery sized severance on the taxpayer.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/story/...th-kramer.html

But it is socialized, including corruption and incompetence from top
corrupt management to floor cleaner using drugs that go missing. Can't
fire union and management incompetence even if your life depended on it.

Some provinces take in US doctors that can't get malpractice. Can't sue
them no how here.

Be lucky if your doctor speaks english.

Bet heck, sex offender no problem, takes 6 years after the first charge
to get your suspension and they even outline how he can begin practicing
again: (even with a prior history and name change)

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/britis...bc-doctor.html

https://www.cpsbc.ca/files/pdf/2011-03-23-Makhija.pdf

From my best guess, back in practice.

In the US, the above doctor would never get malpractice insurance. But
in Canada... no problem. Even had a Arizona doctor fired for
incompetence working in BC too for that reason.

But we have socialized medicine.

--
All successful people have one thing in common, if even for a moment
they think rationally.

On Sun, 20 Nov 2011 22:55:07 -0500, BAR wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Sun, 20 Nov 2011 16:44:52 -0500, BAR wrote:

firms.

You really do like stepping in it don't you.


i notice you dont have a single reference to the topic under
discussion:

JOB GROWTH

For businesses to grow they need their own money to spend where they
need to spend it. Taking money from businesses and S corps in the form
of increased taxes means there is no money for the businesses to expand.

It is basic economics.

it's actually bull****

capital gains taxes were about 30% under clinton

we had 5% unemployment

bush cut those taxes to 15%

how we doing? we have full employment?

because if we DONT then your whole argument is bull****.

so tell me...how we doing with low capital gains taxes??

On 20/11/2011 6:33 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 20 Nov 2011 11:22:12 -0700,
wrote:

Big money can be made in depressions for the savvy.

Warren Buffett says get greedy when everyone else is scared and get
scared when they are greedy.

No money in following the flock of sheep. Be one step ahead. They buy
high when you sell, you buy when they panic and dump it cheap.
--
All successful people have one thing in common, if even for a moment
they think rationally.

On 20/11/2011 8:40 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Sun, 20 Nov 2011 17:13:03 -0700,
wrote:

On 20/11/2011 2:56 PM, BAR wrote:
In ,
says...

notice how the right denies there's a depression in the country?

Depression is just another word for opportunity.

It is where the winners shine and bull**** fails.

Cleans the system out of paper tigers.

notice how the right rejoices when america is weak and the middle
class is unemployed!

Can fix a problem you so blindly ignore. Need rationality to fix it
too, fleabagger whine is a waste of time.
--
All successful people have one thing in common, if even for a moment
they think rationally.

On 20/11/2011 8:39 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Sun, 20 Nov 2011 16:56:34 -0500, wrote:

In ,
says...

notice how the right denies there's a depression in the country?

Depression is just another word for opportunity.

of course it is

for the rich. that's why they love to gut the middle class

Just have to want it enough and be prepared to do what it takes, self
discipline and all.

I was born into a poor family. Went through middle class, no upper
class....

So why didn't you do what it takes? Booze? Pills? Snorting? Lazy?
Dysfunctional? Crime? We know you were put away for awhile, nothing
like the present to change your ways.

--
All successful people have one thing in common, if even for a moment
they think rationally.

On 20/11/2011 8:00 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 11/20/2011 8:39 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 20 Nov 2011 16:44:52 -0500, wrote:

In ,
says...

On Sun, 20 Nov 2011 10:43:01 -0500, wrote:

In ,
says...

On Sun, 20 Nov 2011 00:08:25 -0700,
wrote:

On 19/11/2011 7:37 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Sat, 19 Nov 2011 14:29:25 -0500, wrote:

In ,
says...
nity to make something of yourself.
It's not too late.

Good words. But these are fleabaggers that discard such conservative
concepts as self discipline, life planning, saving,
investing....fleabaggers invest in self pity, envy and whining.

right wing mythology continues

they don't even know we're in a depression. gotta love the right.
even
when their world collapses they keep telling us how wunnerful it is

http://smallbusiness.aol.com/2010/05...rted-during-a-

recession/

dont know much about economics do you? small businesses are not the
engine of employment

sorry

http://web.sba.gov/faqs/faqIndexAll.cfm?areaid=24

Small firms:
? Represent 99.7 percent of all employer firms.
? Employ half of all private sector employees.
? Pay 44 percent of total U.S. private payroll.
? Generated 65 percent of net new jobs over the past 17 years.
? Create more than half of the nonfarm private GDP.
? Hire 43 percent of high tech workers ( scientists, engineers,
computer programmers, and others).
? Are 52 percent home-based and 2 percent franchises.
? Made up 97.5 percent of all identified exporters and produced 31
percent of export value in FY 2008.
? Produce 13 times more patents per employee than large patenting
firms.

You really do like stepping in it don't you.


Don;t give Bob facts from the government it only confuses him He
believes everything he hears on his left wing whiner blogs.

I just can't understand how they can listen to that crap, knowing it's
mostly made up and just pass it along as if it's fact... Just can't wrap
my head around that kind of mentality...

They themselves like bob and harryk are so full of **** they can't smell
the bull****.
--
All successful people have one thing in common, if even for a moment
they think rationally.

On 20/11/2011 11:38 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Sun, 20 Nov 2011 22:47:39 -0500, JustWait
wrote:

On 11/20/2011 10:43 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Sun, 20 Nov 2011 17:21:09 -0500, JustWait
wrote:


i gave you the website to look me up. sorry if you'[re too stupid to
use it

typical right winger. cant even click on a link


Don't care... Just disgusted you think you are special for doing
something most folks do... volunteer. You have no idea how much any of
us do, and/or if it's just as important to the folks we help as yours is
to the folks you say you help. But this whole "mine is better" thing is
quite harryesque, er, uh, progressive...

and i'm equally disgusted you right wingers think the noblest
enterprise of man is making a profit.

and how many lives did you say you helped save in the last year?

Funny how little you fleabaggers know about basic human motivation. No
wonder your so easy lead like sheep.

Hey, wages are profit for work, so if my capital has to go to work for
nothing, will you go to work for nothing?

You fleabaggers are stupid, selfish, envious greedy ass holes. No
wonder you can't get ahead.

--
All successful people have one thing in common, if even for a moment
they think rationally.

On 11/21/2011 1:37 AM, bpuharic wrote:
On Mon, 21 Nov 2011 00:33:14 -0500, wrote:

On Sun, 20 Nov 2011 22:41:13 -0500, wrote:

gee. IOW you dont know about the high unemployment in the US.

I just saw 30 people who were fired with no notice and all used their
personal initiative to go get a job.

ah, the right wing.

deny the facts

rely on reader's digest anecdotes...

no wonder they're delusional.


These were living breathing people who actually had good jobs.
It just was not what they were doing in 2006.
They took the personal initiative to change to fit a different job
market.

meaningless. someday the right will actually say something that normal
people can read

not today, however

You stupid ****ing ****! He couldn't be any more clear. You are a
twisted drunk, hope the hell they never let you out from behind the
dispatchers desk....