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On Mon, 21 Nov 2011 19:20:06 -0500, BAR wrote:

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On 11/21/2011 10:49 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 11/21/11 9:53 AM, North Star wrote:
On Nov 21, 9:47 am, wrote:
In articleh7SdnY8voJxMJlTTnZ2dnUVZ_tidn...@earthlink .com, dump-on-
says...







On 11/20/11 9:40 PM, Tim wrote:
On Nov 20, 6:50 pm, X ` Mandump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you-
can.com wrote:
On 11/20/11 7:29 PM, North Star wrote:

On Nov 20, 6:31 pm, John wrote:
OK, some folks want to call it a 'truck'.

Yup, looks like a truck to me. Same color as Don's too.

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5216/5...5fa4233b_b.jpg

Duh!
That is a 1st generation model.
My model is more like your wife's Highlander in size.
Sorry to disappoint you but my colour is a bronze/brown..........
pyrite mica to be exact.

Herring bought a truck four times the size he needed to tow his
boat. D'oh.

And/or his camper. There's a good reason why too. Pulling his camper
with the Highlander the fuel mileage was anywhere from 8-12 mpg. the
diesel pickup gets double the mileage pulling either one, plus you not
only gain on the braking factor, but also the pulling response behind
a duramax is like the truck isn't pulling anything. Better safety,
better economy, less wear and tear and less carbon footprint.

good decision.

Depends on how often and how far one tows one's camper, eh?

You freakin' idiot, it makes no difference how often and how far he tows
the camper. If he tows it one mile or one million miles, he's still
getting better mileage.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Yiikes... are you really that stupid?
If Johnny only towed his trailer/boat 5 miles from his house to his
favourite campground or launch... how could you justify the extra
expense of the big diesel truck compared to the useable Highlander,
that he already owned?
If you would only quit playing with your 'little head' and give your
'big head' a shake, things might make more sense.


I think herring also had or has a V8 4Runner, which is more than capable
of towing his boat, or his camper. You'd have to tow a whole lot, which
he does not do, to justify the price of that overgrown diesel truck, and
it's so large, you wouldn't want to drive it around town much. It's a
bitch to park in the city.


Men of means have more than one vehicle at their disposal. Simply use
the one that matches the task at hand, oh one dimensional one.

I have a 25 gallon gas tank in the driveway and a 12 gallon gas tank I
drive around daily.

My five gallon Guzzi still works pretty good for when I can do it without a lot of baggage. I need
to find an old golf bag I can modify so I can take the Guzzi when I go golfing. Now *that* would
save some gas money. The Guzzi gets around 45 mpg.

My Nissan Versa gets 37 and thats with a 1.6L.


Yeah, well, that's not bad at all. But, it probably cost a lot more than my Guzzi. And, the Guzzi's
only 22 years old, so it'll out last that damn Nissan!

Nissan Versa $12,500 out the door. Roll up windows, manual door locks
and no radio. Would have been cheaper if I didn't get the auto trans.


Damn, that's not bad at all. I didn't think there were any cars made that cost less than about 20K.
Heck, it's a cute little thing too. And, the trunk looks it might hold a set of golf clubs. I'd
probably have to put the cart on the back seat.

The sedan has a huge trunk. It is the biggest little car on the market.

On Nov 21, 9:07*pm, Wayne.B wrote:
On Sun, 20 Nov 2011 17:31:36 -0500, John H
wrote:

OK, some folks want to call it a 'truck'.

Yup, looks like a truck to me. Same color as Don's too.

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5216/5...5fa4233b_b.jpg

====

The real test of a 4WD vehicle is if you can plow heavy snow with it.
In the case of the RAV4, I'd guess not so much, or at least not for
very long.

The city plows our snow... except for the sidewalk & my driveway which
i can easily do with a sturdy shovel or my electric snowblower.

X ` Man wrote:
On 11/20/11 7:29 PM, North Star wrote:
On Nov 20, 6:31 pm, John wrote:
OK, some folks want to call it a 'truck'.

Yup, looks like a truck to me. Same color as Don's too.

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5216/5...5fa4233b_b.jpg

Duh!
That is a 1st generation model.
My model is more like your wife's Highlander in size.
Sorry to disappoint you but my colour is a bronze/brown..........
pyrite mica to be exact.


Herring bought a truck four times the size he needed to tow his boat.
D'oh.
Jim *has* a boat. D'oh!

-HB

On Mon, 21 Nov 2011 20:00:48 -0500, Wayne.B wrote:

On Mon, 21 Nov 2011 19:10:55 -0500, John H
wrote:

It is a wonder how a 6.6 liter diesel can get better mileage than a 5.6 liter gasser, but they do.

===

There's no magic to it, just the laws of physics. Diesel fuel has
more BTUs per gallon and diesel engines operate at a much higher
compression ratio. In addition a diesel engine does not operate
against the constriction of a throttle plate. The rule of thumb is
that a diesel engine will burn about 1 gallon per hour for every 17 or
18 horsepower. A gas engine burns 1 gallon per hour for every 10 hp.

There's just nothing like having the most powerful pickup in the world!

You gotta love physics.

X ` Man wrote:
On 11/21/11 9:53 AM, North Star wrote:
On Nov 21, 9:47 am, wrote:
In articleh7SdnY8voJxMJlTTnZ2dnUVZ_tidn...@earthlink .com, dump-on-
says...







On 11/20/11 9:40 PM, Tim wrote:
On Nov 20, 6:50 pm, X ` Mandump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you-
can.com wrote:
On 11/20/11 7:29 PM, North Star wrote:

On Nov 20, 6:31 pm, John wrote:
OK, some folks want to call it a 'truck'.

Yup, looks like a truck to me. Same color as Don's too.

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5216/5...5fa4233b_b.jpg

Duh!
That is a 1st generation model.
My model is more like your wife's Highlander in size.
Sorry to disappoint you but my colour is a bronze/brown..........
pyrite mica to be exact.

Herring bought a truck four times the size he needed to tow his
boat. D'oh.

And/or his camper. There's a good reason why too. Pulling his camper
with the Highlander the fuel mileage was anywhere from 8-12 mpg. the
diesel pickup gets double the mileage pulling either one, plus you
not
only gain on the braking factor, but also the pulling response behind
a duramax is like the truck isn't pulling anything. Better safety,
better economy, less wear and tear and less carbon footprint.

good decision.

Depends on how often and how far one tows one's camper, eh?

You freakin' idiot, it makes no difference how often and how far he
tows
the camper. If he tows it one mile or one million miles, he's still
getting better mileage.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Yiikes... are you really that stupid?
If Johnny only towed his trailer/boat 5 miles from his house to his
favourite campground or launch... how could you justify the extra
expense of the big diesel truck compared to the useable Highlander,
that he already owned?
If you would only quit playing with your 'little head' and give your
'big head' a shake, things might make more sense.


I think herring also had or has a V8 4Runner, which is more than
capable of towing his boat, or his camper. You'd have to tow a whole
lot, which he does not do, to justify the price of that overgrown
diesel truck, and it's so large, you wouldn't want to drive it around
town much. It's a bitch to park in the city.


Why does that bother/concern you, Harry?

-HB

John H wrote:
Hee, hee.

What was it you used to say about those slow-moving, boring trawlers? 'Til you ' bought' one (or so
you say).

What a friggin' joke, Harry!

Now, does that sound like a man who isn't harboring jealousy? Apparently
he thinks owning stuff is the key to happiness. But then, why is he so
miserable?
I'm wondering how I'd feel if my biggest buddies were Donnie and Slammer.
Make up some friends. Paul and Plume are taken.

-HB

On Mon, 21 Nov 2011 18:54:45 -0800 (PST), North Star wrote:

On Nov 21, 9:07*pm, Wayne.B wrote:
On Sun, 20 Nov 2011 17:31:36 -0500, John H
wrote:

OK, some folks want to call it a 'truck'.

Yup, looks like a truck to me. Same color as Don's too.

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5216/5...5fa4233b_b.jpg

====

The real test of a 4WD vehicle is if you can plow heavy snow with it.
In the case of the RAV4, I'd guess not so much, or at least not for
very long.

The city plows our snow... except for the sidewalk & my driveway which
i can easily do with a sturdy shovel or my electric snowblower.

Uh, Donnie...when you mentioned Consumer Reports classifying your RAV4 as an SUV (and therefore, in
your opinion, a truck), you failed to mention some of the other 'trucks' they classified the same
way, like:

Nissan Rogue
http://static2.consumerreportscdn.or...4-cyl-cvt.jpeg

Mini Countryman
http://static2.consumerreportscdn.or...n-s-4-cyl.jpeg

Subaru Forester
http://static2.consumerreportscdn.or...ium-4-cyl.jpeg

....and so on.

Are all these vehicles 'trucks'?

North Star wrote:
On Nov 21, 5:04 pm, John wrote:
On Mon, 21 Nov 2011 15:52:24 -0500, wrote:
On 11/21/2011 3:03 PM, John H wrote:
On Mon, 21 Nov 2011 14:58:14 -0500, X ` wrote:
On 11/21/11 2:54 PM, John H wrote:
On Mon, 21 Nov 2011 11:47:38 -0500, wrote:
On 11/21/2011 11:33 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In articleLeydnXwdTbG95VfTnZ2dnUVZ_t6dn...@earthlink .com, dump-on-
says...
On 11/21/11 10:57 AM, Jack wrote:
On 11/21/2011 10:49 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 11/21/11 9:53 AM, North Star wrote:
On Nov 21, 9:47 am, wrote:
In articleh7SdnY8voJxMJlTTnZ2dnUVZ_tidn...@earthlink .com, dump-on-
says...
On 11/20/11 9:40 PM, Tim wrote:
On Nov 20, 6:50 pm, X ` Mandump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you-
can.com wrote:
On 11/20/11 7:29 PM, North Star wrote:
On Nov 20, 6:31 pm, John wrote:
OK, some folks want to call it a 'truck'.
Yup, looks like a truck to me. Same color as Don's too.
http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5216/5...5fa4233b_b.jpg
Duh!
That is a 1st generation model.
My model is more like your wife's Highlander in size.
Sorry to disappoint you but my colour is a bronze/brown...........
pyrite mica to be exact.
Herring bought a truck four times the size he needed to tow his
boat. D'oh.
And/or his camper. There's a good reason why too. Pulling his camper
with the Highlander the fuel mileage was anywhere from 8-12 mpg. the
diesel pickup gets double the mileage pulling either one, plus you
not
only gain on the braking factor, but also the pulling response behind
a duramax is like the truck isn't pulling anything. Better safety,
better economy, less wear and tear and less carbon footprint.
good decision.
Depends on how often and how far one tows one's camper, eh?
You freakin' idiot, it makes no difference how often and how far he
tows
the camper. If he tows it one mile or one million miles, he's still
getting better mileage.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Yiikes... are you really that stupid?
If Johnny only towed his trailer/boat 5 miles from his house to his
favourite campground or launch... how could you justify the extra
expense of the big diesel truck compared to the useable Highlander,
that he already owned?
If you would only quit playing with your 'little head' and give your
'big head' a shake, things might make more sense.
I think herring also had or has a V8 4Runner, which is more than capable
of towing his boat, or his camper. You'd have to tow a whole lot, which
he does not do, to justify the price of that overgrown diesel truck, and
it's so large, you wouldn't want to drive it around town much. It's a
bitch to park in the city.
Men of means have more than one vehicle at their disposal. Simply use
the one that matches the task at hand, oh one dimensional one.
Gee, Jackoff, that must explain why we have a sedan for road trips, an
SUV to haul stuff around, a sports car and a motorcycle. No need for an
oversized pickup truck, since we no longer have a trailerboat.
Liar.
Suddenly the conversation turns from Herring, who has a need for a
substantial truck to tow his toys, cross country safely, to Krause, who
will soon be trading his junk for an electric wheelchair. Won't be
needing that big red barn anymore.
Poor Harry. Jealousy is a pure bitch, especially is there's a tad of narcissism involved.
I'm wondering if parking is a big problem in Huntingtown. I've no problem parking the truck wherever
I go, but maybe the spaces in Huntingtown are a lot tighter. Could be. Who knows?
I can't think of one reason to be jealous of you, Herring. I don't envy
anything about you or your possessions, least of all your oversized
truck or your travel trailer. I can't think of a worse way to travel a
long distance than driving a big truck with a travel trailer behind it.
Blech.
Hee, hee.
What was it you used to say about those slow-moving, boring trawlers? 'Til you ' bought' one (or so
you say).
What a friggin' joke, Harry!
Now, does that sound like a man who isn't harboring jealousy? Apparently
he thinks owning stuff is the key to happiness. But then, why is he so
miserable?
I'm wondering how I'd feel if my biggest buddies were Donnie and Slammer.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -
Lucky and blessed come to mind................
Really?

-HB

On Nov 21, 7:00*pm, Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 21 Nov 2011 19:10:55 -0500, John H
wrote:

It is a wonder how a 6.6 liter diesel can get better mileage than a 5.6 liter gasser, but they do.

===

There's no magic to it, just the laws of physics. * Diesel fuel has
more BTUs per gallon and diesel engines operate at a much higher
compression ratio. * In addition a diesel engine does not operate
against the constriction of a throttle plate. * The rule of thumb is
that a diesel engine will burn about 1 gallon per hour for every 17 or
18 horsepower. * A gas engine burns 1 gallon per hour for every 10 hp.

Then when you start turbo-ing the engine, the power flies. As long as
you can keep the engine cool, the power is phenomenal.

Take the lowly detroit '4-53' a 212 cubic engine, but with porting,
turbo's and inner/after cooling, that little engine is capable of well
over 450 reliable hp.

On Nov 21, 10:49*am, X ` Man wrote:
On 11/21/11 9:53 AM, North Star wrote:





On Nov 21, 9:47 am, *wrote:
In articleh7SdnY8voJxMJlTTnZ2dnUVZ_tidn...@earthlink .com, dump-on-
says...

On 11/20/11 9:40 PM, Tim wrote:
On Nov 20, 6:50 pm, X ` Mandump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you-
can.com * *wrote:
On 11/20/11 7:29 PM, North Star wrote:

On Nov 20, 6:31 pm, John * * *wrote:
OK, some folks want to call it a 'truck'.

Yup, looks like a truck to me. Same color as Don's too.

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5216/5...5fa4233b_b.jpg

Duh!
That is a 1st generation model.
My model is more like your wife's Highlander in size.
Sorry to disappoint you but my colour is a bronze/brown..........
pyrite mica to be exact.

Herring bought a truck four times the size he needed to tow his boat. D'oh.

And/or his camper. There's a good reason why too. Pulling his camper
with the Highlander the fuel mileage was anywhere from 8-12 mpg. the
diesel pickup gets double the mileage pulling either one, plus you not
only gain on the braking factor, but also the pulling response behind
a duramax is like the truck isn't pulling anything. *Better safety,
better economy, less wear and tear and less carbon footprint.

good decision.

Depends on how often and how far one tows one's camper, eh?

You freakin' idiot, it makes no difference how often and how far he tows
the camper. If he tows it one mile or one million miles, he's still
getting better mileage.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Yiikes... are you really that stupid?
If Johnny only towed his trailer/boat 5 miles from his house to his
favourite campground or launch... how could you justify the extra
expense of the big diesel truck compared to the useable Highlander,
that he already owned?
If you would only quit playing with your 'little head' and give your
'big head' a shake, things might make more sense.

I think herring also had or has a V8 4Runner, which is more than capable
of towing his boat, or his camper. You'd have to tow a whole lot, which
he does not do, to justify the price of that overgrown diesel truck, and
it's so large, you wouldn't want to drive it around town much. It's a
bitch to park in the city.

For Herring, the truck is a " penile extension".