Key social conservatives secretly meet to stop Romney in Iowa

Des Moines, Iowa (CNN) -- Representatives for leading social
conservative groups in Iowa held a secret meeting Monday as part of an
effort with one main goal: find and support a Republican presidential
candidate who can stop Mitt Romney in Iowa.

The idea: avoid splintering the conservative vote in the state by
rallying around one GOP rival who could win Iowa's Jan. 3 caucus and
then challenge Romney in New Hampshire and the other early voting states.

Many social conservatives and other religious leaders in the state have
openly labeled the former Massachusetts governor as a "flip-flopper," a
criticism the campaign frequently beats back, while others have seen
Romney's Mormon faith as an issue. And many of them have openly hoped
for someone to emerge as a viable alternative to the former
Massachusetts governor.

One attendee at the meeting earlier this week told CNN they wanted "to
see if they could come to a consensus of who they might endorse."

But the source was skeptical about the impact of Iowa social
conservatives rallying behind one candidate.

"If you want to stop Romney you're probably going to have to have some
organization [and] some money," the source said. "Somebody who's at 5%
or 6% in the polls, and they endorse, I don't think that does any good."

Multiple sources have described to CNN details of the meeting and the
general effort.

The meeting, the group's first, took place in a private office building
in Des Moines on Monday. In attendance were representatives from the
Iowa Faith and Freedom Coalition, The Family Leader, the group Iowa
Right to Life, and a representative for the Iowa chapter of Concerned
Women for America. Some pastors from prominent Iowa churches also
attended the meeting.

(They should name the group "The Committee of Whores")

The effort seems limited to Iowa, with no apparent outreach to similar
groups in other states.

While the concerns have been voiced before, what appears to be new is
the meeting itself and organizers' hope for like-minded groups to come
together against Romney, at least in Iowa.

Sources say there were about 20 to 25 people present at the meeting and
that another meeting is planned for Monday of next week.

The effort is said to still be in the discussion phase. Participants
were said to have narrowed their focus down to four candidates:
Minnesota Rep. Michele Bachmann, Texas Gov. Rick Perry, former House
Speaker Newt Gingrich and former Pennsylvania Sen. Rick Santorum.

*(Bachmann? Perry? Santorum? Crazy losers. Gingrich? Mr. Family Values?)*



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On Thu, 24 Nov 2011 01:25:44 -0500, wrote:

On Wed, 23 Nov 2011 21:18:36 -0500, X ` Man
wrote:

Key social conservatives secretly meet to stop Romney in Iowa

I think the fear at the GOP is if the candidate was Romney, a lot of
GOP voters would vote for a 3d party or just stay home. He has too
many negatives for most GOP voters.

I just think he is an empty suit.

having ignored the most rational candidate, huntsman, the GOP is
choosing between an empty suit and a bunch of raving lunatics

On 11/24/11 1:25 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 23 Nov 2011 21:18:36 -0500, X ` Man
wrote:

Key social conservatives secretly meet to stop Romney in Iowa

I think the fear at the GOP is if the candidate was Romney, a lot of
GOP voters would vote for a 3d party or just stay home. He has too
many negatives for most GOP voters.

I just think he is an empty suit.


Romney seems inevitable to me. Newt and Cain are morally compromised,
and Perry and Cain are dingbats. The bottom of the field is going
nowhere. Of the entire field, only Romney seems to be an electable sort
of person, and that would be true in any recent presidential election year.

I don't like him, but at least he isn't bat**** crazy.

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On 11/24/11 12:27 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 24 Nov 2011 08:41:35 -0500, X ` Man
wrote:

On 11/24/11 1:25 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 23 Nov 2011 21:18:36 -0500, X ` Man
wrote:

Key social conservatives secretly meet to stop Romney in Iowa

I think the fear at the GOP is if the candidate was Romney, a lot of
GOP voters would vote for a 3d party or just stay home. He has too
many negatives for most GOP voters.

I just think he is an empty suit.


Romney seems inevitable to me. Newt and Cain are morally compromised,
and Perry and Cain are dingbats. The bottom of the field is going
nowhere. Of the entire field, only Romney seems to be an electable sort
of person, and that would be true in any recent presidential election year.

I don't like him, but at least he isn't bat**** crazy.

I really think the big money people in the GOP have given up on this
race. They have Obama and he is as much of a big business republican
as they could hope for. Sort of like Clinton.

Did anyone really think Dole was the strongest candidate the GOP could
come up with in 96?

I really fear that the best and brightest have no interest in politics
at any level and that is why we have the assortment of crooks, whackos
and ego maniacs that we have.


I have to admit, the Republicans win the whacko and ego maniac category
hands down. I can't recall either of the mainstream parties before this
year having nutcases like Palin (for a while), Bachmann, Perry, Cain,
Santorum and Gingrich as serious candidates after several months of
discussion and "debates." Ron Paul, of course, falls into his own category.

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On 11/24/11 7:37 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 24 Nov 2011 12:44:46 -0500, X ` Man
wrote:

On 11/24/11 12:27 PM, wrote:


I really think the big money people in the GOP have given up on this
race. They have Obama and he is as much of a big business republican
as they could hope for. Sort of like Clinton.

Did anyone really think Dole was the strongest candidate the GOP could
come up with in 96?

I really fear that the best and brightest have no interest in politics
at any level and that is why we have the assortment of crooks, whackos
and ego maniacs that we have.


I have to admit, the Republicans win the whacko and ego maniac category
hands down. I can't recall either of the mainstream parties before this
year having nutcases like Palin (for a while), Bachmann, Perry, Cain,
Santorum and Gingrich as serious candidates after several months of
discussion and "debates." Ron Paul, of course, falls into his own category.

I don't know,in my lifetime, the democrats have had Strom Thurmond,
George Wallace, Robert Byrd, Gary Hart, Jesse Jackson and Jerry Brown
(back in his "moon beam" days), actually winning a primary.

I am not sure we even remember the "also rans" but I am sure we had
plenty of crazy sombitches who never made it to the primaries.


Gary Hart and Jerry Brown are not whackos.

And the gaggle of guys you mentioned didn't all run in the same
primaries. Nothing tops the gang of losers seeking the GOP nomination
next year.

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On 11/24/11 9:34 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 24 Nov 2011 20:50:37 -0500, X ` Man
wrote:

On 11/24/11 7:37 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 24 Nov 2011 12:44:46 -0500, X ` Man
wrote:

On 11/24/11 12:27 PM, wrote:


I really think the big money people in the GOP have given up on this
race. They have Obama and he is as much of a big business republican
as they could hope for. Sort of like Clinton.

Did anyone really think Dole was the strongest candidate the GOP could
come up with in 96?

I really fear that the best and brightest have no interest in politics
at any level and that is why we have the assortment of crooks, whackos
and ego maniacs that we have.


I have to admit, the Republicans win the whacko and ego maniac category
hands down. I can't recall either of the mainstream parties before this
year having nutcases like Palin (for a while), Bachmann, Perry, Cain,
Santorum and Gingrich as serious candidates after several months of
discussion and "debates." Ron Paul, of course, falls into his own category.

I don't know,in my lifetime, the democrats have had Strom Thurmond,
George Wallace, Robert Byrd, Gary Hart, Jesse Jackson and Jerry Brown
(back in his "moon beam" days), actually winning a primary.

I am not sure we even remember the "also rans" but I am sure we had
plenty of crazy sombitches who never made it to the primaries.


Gary Hart and Jerry Brown are not whackos.

And the gaggle of guys you mentioned didn't all run in the same
primaries. Nothing tops the gang of losers seeking the GOP nomination
next year.
Jerry Brown was pretty whacky in the 70s.

I agree the GOP has a pretty weak field right now tho.
The reality is, the last major party candidate I voted for was Reagan.



It's not just that they comprise a weak field...it's that so many of
them are so weirdly bizarre.

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On Thu, 24 Nov 2011 12:27:47 -0500, wrote:

On Thu, 24 Nov 2011 08:41:35 -0500, X ` Man
wrote:

On 11/24/11 1:25 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 23 Nov 2011 21:18:36 -0500, X ` Man
wrote:

Key social conservatives secretly meet to stop Romney in Iowa

I think the fear at the GOP is if the candidate was Romney, a lot of
GOP voters would vote for a 3d party or just stay home. He has too
many negatives for most GOP voters.

I just think he is an empty suit.


Romney seems inevitable to me. Newt and Cain are morally compromised,
and Perry and Cain are dingbats. The bottom of the field is going
nowhere. Of the entire field, only Romney seems to be an electable sort
of person, and that would be true in any recent presidential election year.

I don't like him, but at least he isn't bat**** crazy.

I really think the big money people in the GOP have given up on this
race. They have Obama and he is as much of a big business republican
as they could hope for. Sort of like Clinton.

actually i agree. which is why i laughed when i saw rick perry's ad
today calling obama a 'socialist'.

On 11/24/11 9:56 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Thu, 24 Nov 2011 12:27:47 -0500, wrote:

On Thu, 24 Nov 2011 08:41:35 -0500, X ` Man
wrote:

On 11/24/11 1:25 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 23 Nov 2011 21:18:36 -0500, X ` Man
wrote:

Key social conservatives secretly meet to stop Romney in Iowa

I think the fear at the GOP is if the candidate was Romney, a lot of
GOP voters would vote for a 3d party or just stay home. He has too
many negatives for most GOP voters.

I just think he is an empty suit.


Romney seems inevitable to me. Newt and Cain are morally compromised,
and Perry and Cain are dingbats. The bottom of the field is going
nowhere. Of the entire field, only Romney seems to be an electable sort
of person, and that would be true in any recent presidential election year.

I don't like him, but at least he isn't bat**** crazy.

I really think the big money people in the GOP have given up on this
race. They have Obama and he is as much of a big business republican
as they could hope for. Sort of like Clinton.

actually i agree. which is why i laughed when i saw rick perry's ad
today calling obama a 'socialist'.


Perry is a moron, elected by (apparently) a state full of morons.

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On Thu, 24 Nov 2011 12:27:47 -0500, wrote:

I really fear that the best and brightest have no interest in politics
at any level and that is why we have the assortment of crooks, whackos
and ego maniacs that we have.

===

Unfortunately there is a lot of truth to that. It does not bode well
for the future of our country.

On 24/11/2011 10:27 AM, wrote:
On Thu, 24 Nov 2011 08:41:35 -0500, X ` Man
wrote:

On 11/24/11 1:25 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 23 Nov 2011 21:18:36 -0500, X ` Man
wrote:

Key social conservatives secretly meet to stop Romney in Iowa

I think the fear at the GOP is if the candidate was Romney, a lot of
GOP voters would vote for a 3d party or just stay home. He has too
many negatives for most GOP voters.

I just think he is an empty suit.


Romney seems inevitable to me. Newt and Cain are morally compromised,
and Perry and Cain are dingbats. The bottom of the field is going
nowhere. Of the entire field, only Romney seems to be an electable sort
of person, and that would be true in any recent presidential election year.

I don't like him, but at least he isn't bat**** crazy.

I really think the big money people in the GOP have given up on this
race. They have Obama and he is as much of a big business republican
as they could hope for. Sort of like Clinton.

Did anyone really think Dole was the strongest candidate the GOP could
come up with in 96?

I really fear that the best and brightest have no interest in politics
at any level and that is why we have the assortment of crooks, whackos
and ego maniacs that we have.

Honest bright people would never be allowed to get to the top. And you
will be tested before you get there. If not just the right corruptible
personality, there are powers that will hold you back.

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