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On 11/26/2011 5:45 PM, Drifter wrote:
On 11/26/2011 5:18 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 11/26/2011 5:15 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Sat, 26 Nov 2011 07:57:27 -0500, John
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You could make a nice little engine for your model boat:

http://www.wimp.com/tiniestengine/

Unreal.

Enjoy. I sure did.

===

Very, very cool.

Lots of questions:

Ignition? Did not see any plugs or wires, assume it must be sort of
a quasi diesel like a model airplane engine.

Lubrication? No sign of a pressurized lube system so assume it must
be done by hand.

It would take the patience and skill of a swiss watch maker to build
something like that. I wonder how many man hours.

It was fascinating to watch the crank shaft being turned using an off
center billet. Incredible precision involved for that and the cam
shafts.

Gene Kearns would appreciate this if he is still lurking under another
name. He'd need to downsize that 20 ft lathe of his by just a bit.


I know where Gene is, I think he has seen it by now... As to the
"ignition", it really looks to me like it is run on compressed air, no
ignition system, no carb, no plugs, no battery, no fuel rails..... One
plastic line coming in, I assume it's pressurized air


Deisel?


I dunno, the cylinders are tight but there are no compression rings. I
still don't think it's internal combustinon... No glow plugs either...
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On 11/26/2011 5:49 PM, Tim wrote:
On Nov 26, 4:45 pm, wrote:
On 11/26/2011 5:18 PM, JustWait wrote:









On 11/26/2011 5:15 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Sat, 26 Nov 2011 07:57:27 -0500, John
wrote:


You could make a nice little engine for your model boat:


http://www.wimp.com/tiniestengine/


Unreal.


Enjoy. I sure did.


===


Very, very cool.


Lots of questions:


Ignition? Did not see any plugs or wires, assume it must be sort of
a quasi diesel like a model airplane engine.


Lubrication? No sign of a pressurized lube system so assume it must
be done by hand.


It would take the patience and skill of a swiss watch maker to build
something like that. I wonder how many man hours.


It was fascinating to watch the crank shaft being turned using an off
center billet. Incredible precision involved for that and the cam
shafts.


Gene Kearns would appreciate this if he is still lurking under another
name. He'd need to downsize that 20 ft lathe of his by just a bit.


I know where Gene is, I think he has seen it by now... As to the
"ignition", it really looks to me like it is run on compressed air, no
ignition system, no carb, no plugs, no battery, no fuel rails..... One
plastic line coming in, I assume it's pressurized air


Deisel?

--
1-20-13 The end of an error


I don't believe it runs. I think it's simply an study of how the guy
"could", and he "did"


They showed it running...
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On Nov 26, 5:29*pm, JustWait wrote:
On 11/26/2011 5:49 PM, Tim wrote:









On Nov 26, 4:45 pm, *wrote:
On 11/26/2011 5:18 PM, JustWait wrote:


On 11/26/2011 5:15 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Sat, 26 Nov 2011 07:57:27 -0500, John
wrote:


You could make a nice little engine for your model boat:


http://www.wimp.com/tiniestengine/


Unreal.


Enjoy. I sure did.


===


Very, very cool.


Lots of questions:


Ignition? Did not see any plugs or wires, assume it must be sort of
a quasi diesel like a model airplane engine.


Lubrication? No sign of a pressurized lube system so assume it must
be done by hand.


It would take the patience and skill of a swiss watch maker to build
something like that. I wonder how many man hours.


It was fascinating to watch the crank shaft being turned using an off
center billet. Incredible precision involved for that and the cam
shafts.


Gene Kearns would appreciate this if he is still lurking under another
name. He'd need to downsize that 20 ft lathe of his by just a bit.


I know where Gene is, I think he has seen it by now... As to the
"ignition", it really looks to me like it is run on compressed air, no
ignition system, no carb, no plugs, no battery, no fuel rails..... One
plastic line coming in, I assume it's pressurized air


Deisel?


--
1-20-13 The end of an error


I don't believe it runs. I think it's simply an study of how the guy
"could", and he "did"


They showed it running...


Right, but like you said Scott. I think it was a compressed air.model
of some sorts. an notice how it seems the rocker arms cam in a
triplicatepatern? maybe it's my imagination, though.
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On 11/26/2011 7:49 PM, Tim wrote:
On Nov 26, 5:29 pm, wrote:
On 11/26/2011 5:49 PM, Tim wrote:









On Nov 26, 4:45 pm, wrote:
On 11/26/2011 5:18 PM, JustWait wrote:


On 11/26/2011 5:15 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Sat, 26 Nov 2011 07:57:27 -0500, John
wrote:


You could make a nice little engine for your model boat:


http://www.wimp.com/tiniestengine/


Unreal.


Enjoy. I sure did.


===


Very, very cool.


Lots of questions:


Ignition? Did not see any plugs or wires, assume it must be sort of
a quasi diesel like a model airplane engine.


Lubrication? No sign of a pressurized lube system so assume it must
be done by hand.


It would take the patience and skill of a swiss watch maker to build
something like that. I wonder how many man hours.


It was fascinating to watch the crank shaft being turned using an off
center billet. Incredible precision involved for that and the cam
shafts.


Gene Kearns would appreciate this if he is still lurking under another
name. He'd need to downsize that 20 ft lathe of his by just a bit.


I know where Gene is, I think he has seen it by now... As to the
"ignition", it really looks to me like it is run on compressed air, no
ignition system, no carb, no plugs, no battery, no fuel rails..... One
plastic line coming in, I assume it's pressurized air


Deisel?


--
1-20-13 The end of an error


I don't believe it runs. I think it's simply an study of how the guy
"could", and he "did"


They showed it running...


Right, but like you said Scott. I think it was a compressed air.model
of some sorts. an notice how it seems the rocker arms cam in a
triplicatepatern? maybe it's my imagination, though.


Sorry Tim, I don't have anything to say to a bad spelling, worse
smelling, flatlander like yourself.... Oh, just kidding.... your
spelling isn't that bad Anyway, yeah, I think it's air but I didn't
notice the triple pattern but maybe he set it up to fire three at at
time although I couldn't imagine why...
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On Sat, 26 Nov 2011 18:28:07 -0500, JustWait
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I know where Gene is, I think he has seen it by now... As to the
"ignition", it really looks to me like it is run on compressed air, no
ignition system, no carb, no plugs, no battery, no fuel rails..... One
plastic line coming in, I assume it's pressurized air


Deisel?


I dunno, the cylinders are tight but there are no compression rings. I
still don't think it's internal combustinon... No glow plugs either...


===

You're probably right about the compressed air, hadn't thought of
that.



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On Nov 26, 6:57*pm, JustWait wrote:
On 11/26/2011 7:49 PM, Tim wrote:









On Nov 26, 5:29 pm, *wrote:
On 11/26/2011 5:49 PM, Tim wrote:


On Nov 26, 4:45 pm, * *wrote:
On 11/26/2011 5:18 PM, JustWait wrote:


On 11/26/2011 5:15 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Sat, 26 Nov 2011 07:57:27 -0500, John
wrote:


You could make a nice little engine for your model boat:


http://www.wimp.com/tiniestengine/


Unreal.


Enjoy. I sure did.


===


Very, very cool.


Lots of questions:


Ignition? Did not see any plugs or wires, assume it must be sort of
a quasi diesel like a model airplane engine.


Lubrication? No sign of a pressurized lube system so assume it must
be done by hand.


It would take the patience and skill of a swiss watch maker to build
something like that. I wonder how many man hours.


It was fascinating to watch the crank shaft being turned using an off
center billet. Incredible precision involved for that and the cam
shafts.


Gene Kearns would appreciate this if he is still lurking under another
name. He'd need to downsize that 20 ft lathe of his by just a bit.


I know where Gene is, I think he has seen it by now... As to the
"ignition", it really looks to me like it is run on compressed air, no
ignition system, no carb, no plugs, no battery, no fuel rails..... One
plastic line coming in, I assume it's pressurized air


Deisel?


--
1-20-13 The end of an error


I don't believe it runs. I think it's simply an study of how the guy
"could", and he "did"


They showed it running...


Right, but like you said Scott. I think it was a compressed air.model
of some sorts. an notice how it seems the rocker arms cam in a
triplicate patern? maybe it's my imagination, though.


Sorry Tim, I don't have anything to say to a bad spelling, worse
smelling, flatlander like yourself.... *Oh, just kidding.... your
spelling isn't that bad Anyway, yeah, I think it's air but I didn't
notice the triple pattern but maybe he set it up to fire three at at
time although I couldn't imagine why...


Yeah, toward the end of the vid watch the rocker arms. something's
weird.
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On Nov 26, 5:28*pm, JustWait wrote:
On 11/26/2011 5:45 PM, Drifter wrote:









On 11/26/2011 5:18 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 11/26/2011 5:15 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Sat, 26 Nov 2011 07:57:27 -0500, John
wrote:


You could make a nice little engine for your model boat:


http://www.wimp.com/tiniestengine/


Unreal.


Enjoy. I sure did.


===


Very, very cool.


Lots of questions:


Ignition? Did not see any plugs or wires, assume it must be sort of
a quasi diesel like a model airplane engine.


Lubrication? No sign of a pressurized lube system so assume it must
be done by hand.


It would take the patience and skill of a swiss watch maker to build
something like that. I wonder how many man hours.


It was fascinating to watch the crank shaft being turned using an off
center billet. Incredible precision involved for that and the cam
shafts.


Gene Kearns would appreciate this if he is still lurking under another
name. He'd need to downsize that 20 ft lathe of his by just a bit.


I know where Gene is, I think he has seen it by now... As to the
"ignition", it really looks to me like it is run on compressed air, no
ignition system, no carb, no plugs, no battery, no fuel rails..... One
plastic line coming in, I assume it's pressurized air


Deisel?


I dunno, the cylinders are tight but there are no compression rings. I
still don't think it's internal combustinon... No glow plugs either...


There's no piston rings on a cox .049 model air plane engine either.
but those cool little glow plug fired diesels and their nitro-methane
blend fuel take care of their own.
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On Nov 26, 10:30*pm, Wayne.B wrote:
On Sat, 26 Nov 2011 22:07:37 -0500, wrote:
On Sat, 26 Nov 2011 20:13:04 -0500, Wayne.B
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On Sat, 26 Nov 2011 18:28:07 -0500, JustWait
wrote:


I know where Gene is, I think he has seen it by now... As to the
"ignition", it really looks to me like it is run on compressed air, no
ignition system, no carb, no plugs, no battery, no fuel rails..... One
plastic line coming in, I assume it's pressurized air


Deisel?


I dunno, the cylinders are tight but there are no compression rings. I
still don't think it's internal combustinon... No glow plugs either...


===


You're probably right about the compressed air, hadn't thought of
that.


I second the compressed air idea. If you could see the cam timing a
little better it would be easy to figure out. A compressed air machine
would be a 2 stroke with the intake valve opening around TDC and the
exhaust valve opening on the compression stroke. Pretty much a
compressor running backward.


===

Or a steam engine.


That same engine vid is on Youtube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YfTt...ature=youtu.be

And in English the description says:

"v-12 engine with compressed air injection,hand made using taditional
methods:12 cm3 of displacement,the diameter of the cyllinder is 11,3
mm,the stroke of the pistons 10mm,it works with only 0,1kg/cm2.Is
constructed with stainless steel,aluminum and bronze.Patelo dedicate
this engine to his grandchildren:Sara,Carmen,Jose and Pablo.This
engine is for education,exhibitons,etc.,that is the reason to work
with compressed air, to avoid contamination.He has made the plans and
all parts, except the screws.The engine is not for sale.Thanks to
everybody for the comments and sorry for my bad English."

So, now we know...
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On Sat, 26 Nov 2011 14:53:15 -0800 (PST), Tim
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On Nov 26, 4:48*pm, John H wrote:
On Sat, 26 Nov 2011 17:15:02 -0500, Wayne.B wrote:
On Sat, 26 Nov 2011 07:57:27 -0500, John H
wrote:


You could make a nice little engine for your model boat:


http://www.wimp.com/tiniestengine/


Unreal.


Enjoy. I sure did.


===


Very, very cool.


Lots of questions:


Ignition? * Did not see any plugs or wires, assume it must be sort of
a quasi diesel like a model airplane engine.


That's what I thought. Couldn't see wires and no spark plugs were shown.

Lubrication? *No sign of a pressurized lube system so assume it must
be done by hand.


He lubed some parts as he was assembling, but I saw nothing else either. I thought I saw something
spattering up on the valve springs, but not sure. And, had no idea where it may come from.

It would take the patience and skill of a swiss watch maker to build
something like that. * I wonder how many man hours.


Over 1200 hours from what I was told in the email I received.

It was fascinating to watch the crank shaft being turned using an off
center billet. *Incredible precision involved for that and the cam
shafts.


I've never seen an off-center billet. Very interesting and educational.

Gene Kearns would appreciate this if he is still lurking under another
name. *He'd need to downsize that 20 ft lathe of his by just a bit.


Shoot, anyone who owns German screwdrivers should be impressed also.


Not really. Because no one was shot.

However, this engine does run!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9zt3SF_Flc


I was wondering when Snotty was going to ask why this couldn't be done
using a Sears craftsman lathe made in China.
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