OK.......... I'll give in. Something new to banter about??? LOL

Regardless how you feel about the idea of a "recall" election, the fact is
California has a new Govorner elect.

So.... do you think Arnold can do the job?

My take is that he's a moderate Republican that your average Demacrat can
live with. But can he fix the huge bugetary problems California has? How do
you think he'll do in general at the job of Govorner? Will his obvious ties
to the Democratic heierarchy help him get bi-partisan support?

Hints:

1. Don't let the discussion turn into endless silly comparisons between the
"Gropeinator" and Clintons blow jobs. Let's assume Arnie won't be slapping
any asses - at least while he's in office.

2. Don't get into the rathole of blaming all Californias money troubles on
the "Bush Economy". Regardless of the national situation, California is in
an economic toilet much deeper than the national average.

-W

"Clams Canino" wrote in message
. net...
OK.......... I'll give in. Something new to banter about??? LOL

Regardless how you feel about the idea of a "recall" election, the fact is
California has a new Govorner elect.

So.... do you think Arnold can do the job?

My take is that he's a moderate Republican that your average Demacrat can
live with. But can he fix the huge bugetary problems California has? How do
you think he'll do in general at the job of Govorner? Will his obvious ties
to the Democratic heierarchy help him get bi-partisan support?

Hints:

1. Don't let the discussion turn into endless silly comparisons between the
"Gropeinator" and Clintons blow jobs. Let's assume Arnie won't be slapping
any asses - at least while he's in office.

2. Don't get into the rathole of blaming all Californias money troubles on
the "Bush Economy". Regardless of the national situation, California is in
an economic toilet much deeper than the national average.

-W


Why bother with speculation???? It proves nothing. Let's see what he does addressing
California's huge fiscal problem. Then open the discussion on how he is doing.

Right or wrong, he was elected by the citizens of California to lead their State. Give
him a chance to stumble or shine.

Save your speculations for the race track.

For those of us OUTSIDE of California - this is a spectator sport. The only
entertainment Arnold will be providing us with is how well he does his new
job. I have some reservations sure, but he's someone I'd never count out
early.

-W

"Jim -" wrote in message news:MX2hb.526090

Why bother with speculation???? It proves nothing. Let's see what he
does addressing
California's huge fiscal problem. Then open the discussion on how he is
doing.

Right or wrong, he was elected by the citizens of California to lead their
State. Give
him a chance to stumble or shine.

Save your speculations for the race track.

For those of us OUTSIDE of California - this is a spectator sport.

The only think it might be for the rest of us is a snapshot of what the US
economy might look like when the SS entitlements overwealm our revenues.
Arnold is up against a massive amount of spending that people of California see
as a right now.

On 09 Oct 2003 03:26:46 GMT, reg (Gfretwell) wrote:

For those of us OUTSIDE of California - this is a spectator sport.

The only think it might be for the rest of us is a snapshot of what the US
economy might look like when the SS entitlements overwealm our revenues.
Arnold is up against a massive amount of spending that people of California see
as a right now.

I think it should now be obvious the solution to that problem is
massive tax cuts while increasing spending. The only problem being,
how does California go to war to distract the public from it's
financial quagmire?

bb

"Clams Canino" wrote in message
. net...
For those of us OUTSIDE of California - this is a spectator sport. The
only
entertainment Arnold will be providing us with is how well he does his new
job. I have some reservations sure, but he's someone I'd never count out
early.

-W

"Jim -" wrote in message news:MX2hb.526090

Why bother with speculation???? It proves nothing. Let's see what he
does addressing
California's huge fiscal problem. Then open the discussion on how he is
doing.

Right or wrong, he was elected by the citizens of California to lead
their
State. Give
him a chance to stumble or shine.

Save your speculations for the race track.




Well, first I hope the LA times folds over their latest headline, or at
least lose a billion or so dollars. The "Gropenfurer". As to the election.
Arnold has done well as a business man. More money from real estate than
movies. Most of the refurbed area of Santa Monica his because of him.
Listening to KGO this morning. Major, very major talk radio in the SFO area
and very liberal. Lady called in and said she voted for Arnold, and was a
Democrat. All the calls from Clinton, Jesse Jackson, Willie Brown saying
that Arnold was bad and a women abuser told her that the Dem's were dying.
All the major proved womanizers calling upset her greatly. Already the
President Pro Tem of the House said that he was not going to cut anything if
it affected kids, women and children and put the blame on the Bush
Recession. Recession my ass. The state in the last 4 years went from a $24
billion surplus to a $38 billion deficit, while at the same time revenues
increased $24 billion. A budget that grew from 60 Billion to $108 billion.
Dept. Fish and game had 4 deputy directors in 1990, now there are 160. When
the last governor left office there were 4 lawyers working for DFG, now
there are 169. 169 is not a misprint. At the same time they have decreased
the wardens and biologists and hatchery workers. This is just one
department of the state. Prison guards union gave a million + to Davis and
at the same time he was cutting children's health services, they were
getting a 30% raise. Is why he was overwhelming tossed as Gov. Arnold was
the only candidate that actually campaigned on the facts that showed the job
Davis was miss manageing. His charisma helped also. And Bustamante was
scaring everybody with his ideas. Raise spending and taxes! Open the
border wide open, etc. I feel Arnold will surround himself with good
people. Not just yes men per Davis.
Bill

"bb" wrote in message
...
On 09 Oct 2003 03:26:46 GMT, reg (Gfretwell) wrote:

For those of us OUTSIDE of California - this is a spectator sport.

The only think it might be for the rest of us is a snapshot of what the
US
economy might look like when the SS entitlements overwealm our revenues.
Arnold is up against a massive amount of spending that people of
California see
as a right now.

I think it should now be obvious the solution to that problem is
massive tax cuts while increasing spending. The only problem being,
how does California go to war to distract the public from it's
financial quagmire?

They can go to war with Mexico. It would seem the immigration issue will
provide all the fuel necessary to drive the issue. Arnold has already staked
out some ground on the topic. How many Billions can California borrow to
rebuild the Mexican economy after a war?

Mark Browne

As I understand the tale, Arnold made his 1st million when he got here as an
unemployed muscle-kid and put an ad in the papers with a buddy advirtising:
"Genuine European Bricklayers and Stonecrafters" it didn't matter that he'd
never done it - he learned the trade fast and capitalized on the fact that
European stone stuff was in vogue. He had a successfull business in no time
while winning minor titles on his way up the bodybuilding food chain. Sounds
to me like he didn't waste his time on Muscle Beach showing off his abs. LOL

When he said he wanted to be a big star ac-tor, everyone
laughed.............

I'm not gonna laugh at him now......... too risky.

-W

"Calif Bill" wrote in message news:8O4hb.3763

As to the election.
Arnold has done well as a business man. More money from real estate than
movies. Most of the refurbed area of Santa Monica his because of him.

"Clams Canino" wrote in message
news:j55hb.708980$YN5.586310@sccrnsc01...
As I understand the tale, Arnold made his 1st million when he got here as
an
unemployed muscle-kid and put an ad in the papers with a buddy
advirtising:
"Genuine European Bricklayers and Stonecrafters" it didn't matter that
he'd
never done it - he learned the trade fast and capitalized on the fact that
European stone stuff was in vogue. He had a successfull business in no
time
while winning minor titles on his way up the bodybuilding food chain.
Sounds
to me like he didn't waste his time on Muscle Beach showing off his abs.
LOL

When he said he wanted to be a big star ac-tor, everyone
laughed.............

I'm not gonna laugh at him now......... too risky.

-W

Turd polishing is a lot harder than starting with no debt and a clean slate.
It'll take more than a great businessman to rework Caleeefonia.

"bb" wrote in message
...
On 09 Oct 2003 03:26:46 GMT, reg (Gfretwell) wrote:

For those of us OUTSIDE of California - this is a spectator sport.

The only think it might be for the rest of us is a snapshot of what the
US
economy might look like when the SS entitlements overwealm our revenues.
Arnold is up against a massive amount of spending that people of
California see
as a right now.

I think it should now be obvious the solution to that problem is
massive tax cuts while increasing spending. The only problem being,
how does California go to war to distract the public from it's
financial quagmire?

bb


Don't forget the concept of borrowing until the state's S&P bond rating is
lowered to at least B-. That always helps. Then, you can issue the NEXT
generation of bonds at 11%, or whatever number is double the rate which
healthy communities are getting.