On 04/01/2012 9:01 PM, North Star wrote:
On Jan 4, 10:45 pm, X ` Mandump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you-
can.com wrote:
On 1/4/12 9:30 PM, Tim wrote:

http://www.metro.us/newyork/life/art...ng-on-a-budget...

Boats are a great investment for a family because it s a way to
socialize and spend time together, says Ellen Hopkins, a spokes woman
for Discover Boating. A lot of my friends who grew up boating said
that one of their best memories was going out with their dads on
Sundays and fishing it s a unique way to bond. It s like a
minivacation, even just being on a kayak on the water.

Yeah, beats driving 120 miles to 6 flags and paying $50 bucks each to
get in then end up standing on hot asphalt waiting an hr to ride some
whirlie-gig and eat $5.00 hotdogs....

Those $5.00 dogs will kill you, sooner or later!

I was chatting with some old friends about an amusement park with lots
of rides we used to frequent as kids. The park had no admission fee, and
all rides were 25 cents, and you could buy a lobster roll...a buttered
hot dog bun filled with real lobster meat, overfilled, really, for fifty
cents. Hot dogs were ten cents. Oh, and gasoline for our outboards was
.19 a gallon.

Obviously, it all went wrong somewhere.

Might get worse..I was watching a program called 'Decoded' and they
were trying to investigate whether there is any gold left in Fort
Knox.

There isn't that much. Last I checked it was only a few hundred billion.

If the word got out that it's empty.... who knows what would happen to
the 'merican greenback.

Already fallen 40_% against the Yuan in the last 6 years, and
accelerating b the looks of it.

Money is like stock, the more you print the less each share is worth.
Bernanke is printing (electronic counterfeiting) new dollars faster than
Americans consume sheets of toilet paper.

At some point you might use a USD as toilet paper.

BTW they claim that no civilian has actually seen the gold since 1974
when a Congressional group insisted on seeing what was in there.

Wouldn't be the first time government misplaced a few hundred billion.

--
No mater how liberally you try to ignore rationality and reality,
reality always wins in the end.

On 04/01/2012 8:09 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 4 Jan 2012 18:30:06 -0800 (PST),
wrote:

http://www.metro.us/newyork/life/art...ing-affordable

“Boats are a great investment for a family because it’s a way to
socialize and spend time together,â€� says Ellen Hopkins, a spokesÂ*woman
for Discover Boating. “A lot of my friends who grew up boating said
that one of their best memories was going out with their dads on
Sundays and fishing — it’s a unique way to bond. It’s like a
minivacation, even just being on a kayak on the water.�

Yeah, beats driving 120 miles to 6 flags and paying $50 bucks each to
get in then end up standing on hot asphalt waiting an hr to ride some
whirlie-gig and eat $5.00 hotdogs....

The cheapest way to own a boat is to use it a lot. Then your per hour
cost drops to a very low number.

Or rent it. Also saves patching up road chipping and the like. Better
gas millage too when getting there.

--
No mater how liberally you try to ignore rationality and reality,
reality always wins in the end.

On Wed, 04 Jan 2012 22:09:04 -0500, wrote:

On Wed, 4 Jan 2012 18:30:06 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

http://www.metro.us/newyork/life/art...ing-affordable

“Boats are a great investment for a family because it’s a way to
socialize and spend time together,” says Ellen Hopkins, a spokes*woman
for Discover Boating. “A lot of my friends who grew up boating said
that one of their best memories was going out with their dads on
Sundays and fishing — it’s a unique way to bond. It’s like a
minivacation, even just being on a kayak on the water.”

Yeah, beats driving 120 miles to 6 flags and paying $50 bucks each to
get in then end up standing on hot asphalt waiting an hr to ride some
whirlie-gig and eat $5.00 hotdogs....

The cheapest way to own a boat is to use it a lot. Then your per hour
cost drops to a very low number.

So does the marginal cost per pound of the fish you catch.

On Jan 5, 3:02*am, wrote:
On Wed, 04 Jan 2012 23:51:48 -0700, Canuck57
wrote:

The cheapest way to own a boat is to use it a lot. Then your per hour
cost drops to a very low number.

Or rent it. *Also saves patching up road chipping and the like. *Better
gas millage too when getting there.

--

Most of the people I know would be thousands of dollars a year ahead
if they just rented a boat on the dozen days a year they actually go
out. By the time you amortize a $40,000 boat over the 40 or 50 times
they use it before it just rots on the lift and toss in the
maintenance headaches from stale gas and other things sitting around
unused causes, $150 an hour rental is a bargain. They usually end up
getting a few thousand on a trade in and start over, promising
themselves they will try to use the boat more next time.
We get out 3 times a week for a couple hours each and I figure boating
costs me less than $8-10 an hour, all costs including maintenance and
gas in the computation. Gas is the biggest part of that number and
when we go slow in manatee season or when my wife says it is cold
(below 80) that can get me closer to $6-7 an hour.

round here, there's not much chance on renting a boat that is unless
it's some giant houseboat. The marina liabilities won't allow it.

On Jan 5, 6:57*am, Tim wrote:
On Jan 5, 3:02*am, wrote:









On Wed, 04 Jan 2012 23:51:48 -0700, Canuck57
wrote:

The cheapest way to own a boat is to use it a lot. Then your per hour
cost drops to a very low number.

Or rent it. *Also saves patching up road chipping and the like. *Better
gas millage too when getting there.

--

Most of the people I know would be thousands of dollars a year ahead
if they just rented a boat on the dozen days a year they actually go
out. By the time you amortize a $40,000 boat over the 40 or 50 times
they use it before it just rots on the lift and toss in the
maintenance headaches from stale gas and other things sitting around
unused causes, $150 an hour rental is a bargain. They usually end up
getting a few thousand on a trade in and start over, promising
themselves they will try to use the boat more next time.
We get out 3 times a week for a couple hours each and I figure boating
costs me less than $8-10 an hour, all costs including maintenance and
gas in the computation. Gas is the biggest part of that number and
when we go slow in manatee season or when my wife says it is cold
(below 80) that can get me closer to $6-7 an hour.

round here, there's not much chance on renting a boat that is unless
it's some giant houseboat. The marina liabilities won't allow it.

But used boats go reasonamble. I've got $1500.00 (plus some repairs)
in my 18'r and even less in my 23' Marquis which is actually a bigger
and better boat.

The small one is great for a fast hitch-n-go. The bigger one, is a
real tug to pull behind my car, so It's geting built for a river
cruise short vacation....

Still less than going to Kings Island, Dolly World or 6 flags.

On 1/5/12 8:21 AM, Tim wrote:
On Jan 5, 6:57 am, wrote:
On Jan 5, 3:02 am, wrote:









On Wed, 04 Jan 2012 23:51:48 -0700,
wrote:

The cheapest way to own a boat is to use it a lot. Then your per hour
cost drops to a very low number.

Or rent it. Also saves patching up road chipping and the like. Better
gas millage too when getting there.

--

Most of the people I know would be thousands of dollars a year ahead
if they just rented a boat on the dozen days a year they actually go
out. By the time you amortize a $40,000 boat over the 40 or 50 times
they use it before it just rots on the lift and toss in the
maintenance headaches from stale gas and other things sitting around
unused causes, $150 an hour rental is a bargain. They usually end up
getting a few thousand on a trade in and start over, promising
themselves they will try to use the boat more next time.
We get out 3 times a week for a couple hours each and I figure boating
costs me less than $8-10 an hour, all costs including maintenance and
gas in the computation. Gas is the biggest part of that number and
when we go slow in manatee season or when my wife says it is cold
(below 80) that can get me closer to $6-7 an hour.

round here, there's not much chance on renting a boat that is unless
it's some giant houseboat. The marina liabilities won't allow it.

But used boats go reasonamble. I've got $1500.00 (plus some repairs)
in my 18'r and even less in my 23' Marquis which is actually a bigger
and better boat.

The small one is great for a fast hitch-n-go. The bigger one, is a
real tug to pull behind my car, so It's geting built for a river
cruise short vacation....

Still less than going to Kings Island, Dolly World or 6 flags.


In this area and elsewhere, there are boat timeshare operations. The
dealer from whom I bought my Parkers is part of a national operation of
such. I asked my salesman there about it once, and was surprised at how
expensive it was. Of course, they send you out in new Gradys and
Parkers. But it still cheaper than buying, maintaining and either
trailering or slipping a new boat of similar quality.

In article , dump-on-
says...

On 1/4/12 9:30 PM, Tim wrote:
http://www.metro.us/newyork/life/art...ing-affordable

?Boats are a great investment for a family because it?s a way to
socialize and spend time together,? says Ellen Hopkins, a spokes*woman
for Discover Boating. ?A lot of my friends who grew up boating said
that one of their best memories was going out with their dads on
Sundays and fishing ? it?s a unique way to bond. It?s like a
minivacation, even just being on a kayak on the water.?

Yeah, beats driving 120 miles to 6 flags and paying $50 bucks each to
get in then end up standing on hot asphalt waiting an hr to ride some
whirlie-gig and eat $5.00 hotdogs....

Those $5.00 dogs will kill you, sooner or later!

I was chatting with some old friends about an amusement park with lots
of rides we used to frequent as kids. The park had no admission fee, and
all rides were 25 cents, and you could buy a lobster roll...a buttered
hot dog bun filled with real lobster meat, overfilled, really, for fifty
cents. Hot dogs were ten cents. Oh, and gasoline for our outboards was
.19 a gallon.

Obviously, it all went wrong somewhere.

But if you compare, more of the average paycheck went for that 19 cents
a gallon gas than today's paycheck goes for 3 buck gas.

On 1/5/12 8:51 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In , dump-on-
says...

On 1/4/12 9:30 PM, Tim wrote:
http://www.metro.us/newyork/life/art...ing-affordable

?Boats are a great investment for a family because it?s a way to
socialize and spend time together,? says Ellen Hopkins, a spokes*woman
for Discover Boating. ?A lot of my friends who grew up boating said
that one of their best memories was going out with their dads on
Sundays and fishing ? it?s a unique way to bond. It?s like a
minivacation, even just being on a kayak on the water.?

Yeah, beats driving 120 miles to 6 flags and paying $50 bucks each to
get in then end up standing on hot asphalt waiting an hr to ride some
whirlie-gig and eat $5.00 hotdogs....

Those $5.00 dogs will kill you, sooner or later!

I was chatting with some old friends about an amusement park with lots
of rides we used to frequent as kids. The park had no admission fee, and
all rides were 25 cents, and you could buy a lobster roll...a buttered
hot dog bun filled with real lobster meat, overfilled, really, for fifty
cents. Hot dogs were ten cents. Oh, and gasoline for our outboards was
.19 a gallon.

Obviously, it all went wrong somewhere.

But if you compare, more of the average paycheck went for that 19 cents
a gallon gas than today's paycheck goes for 3 buck gas.


I don't know what the average paycheck was back then. But as a nine year
old kid working weekends for my dad at his boat store and marina, I made
$2 an hour and I got tips from the boat owners whose boats I gassed or
washed. I had a boat with two six gallon tanks that would do for an
entire day of boating. About $2.50 for gas, a little more than an hour's
pay for weekend marina work. Of course, if my dad wasn't looking, I'd
fill up my boat gas tanks at his gas dock and "borrow" the two cycle oil
from the shop supply drum. In other words, it was pretty close to free.

Fifty cent lobster rolls. I miss those the most. :)

In article , dump-on-
says...

On 1/5/12 8:51 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In , dump-on-
says...

On 1/4/12 9:30 PM, Tim wrote:
http://www.metro.us/newyork/life/art...ing-affordable

?Boats are a great investment for a family because it?s a way to
socialize and spend time together,? says Ellen Hopkins, a spokes*woman
for Discover Boating. ?A lot of my friends who grew up boating said
that one of their best memories was going out with their dads on
Sundays and fishing ? it?s a unique way to bond. It?s like a
minivacation, even just being on a kayak on the water.?

Yeah, beats driving 120 miles to 6 flags and paying $50 bucks each to
get in then end up standing on hot asphalt waiting an hr to ride some
whirlie-gig and eat $5.00 hotdogs....

Those $5.00 dogs will kill you, sooner or later!

I was chatting with some old friends about an amusement park with lots
of rides we used to frequent as kids. The park had no admission fee, and
all rides were 25 cents, and you could buy a lobster roll...a buttered
hot dog bun filled with real lobster meat, overfilled, really, for fifty
cents. Hot dogs were ten cents. Oh, and gasoline for our outboards was
.19 a gallon.

Obviously, it all went wrong somewhere.

But if you compare, more of the average paycheck went for that 19 cents
a gallon gas than today's paycheck goes for 3 buck gas.


I don't know what the average paycheck was back then. But as a nine year
old kid working weekends for my dad at his boat store and marina, I made
$2 an hour and I got tips from the boat owners whose boats I gassed or
washed. I had a boat with two six gallon tanks that would do for an
entire day of boating. About $2.50 for gas, a little more than an hour's
pay for weekend marina work. Of course, if my dad wasn't looking, I'd
fill up my boat gas tanks at his gas dock and "borrow" the two cycle oil
from the shop supply drum. In other words, it was pretty close to free.

Fifty cent lobster rolls. I miss those the most. :)

Growing up in potato farm country, we got a lot of gas for next to
nothing as well for our dirt bikes and snowmobiles. Our fair food was
hot dogs, hamburgers and Italian sausages on a sub roll with grilled
onions and peppers, my favorite! We were pretty removed from
civilization, so food there wasn't really an adventure, just farm food.

On 1/5/12 10:01 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In , dump-on-
says...

On 1/5/12 8:51 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In , dump-on-
says...

On 1/4/12 9:30 PM, Tim wrote:
http://www.metro.us/newyork/life/art...ing-affordable

?Boats are a great investment for a family because it?s a way to
socialize and spend time together,? says Ellen Hopkins, a spokes*woman
for Discover Boating. ?A lot of my friends who grew up boating said
that one of their best memories was going out with their dads on
Sundays and fishing ? it?s a unique way to bond. It?s like a
minivacation, even just being on a kayak on the water.?

Yeah, beats driving 120 miles to 6 flags and paying $50 bucks each to
get in then end up standing on hot asphalt waiting an hr to ride some
whirlie-gig and eat $5.00 hotdogs....

Those $5.00 dogs will kill you, sooner or later!

I was chatting with some old friends about an amusement park with lots
of rides we used to frequent as kids. The park had no admission fee, and
all rides were 25 cents, and you could buy a lobster roll...a buttered
hot dog bun filled with real lobster meat, overfilled, really, for fifty
cents. Hot dogs were ten cents. Oh, and gasoline for our outboards was
.19 a gallon.

Obviously, it all went wrong somewhere.

But if you compare, more of the average paycheck went for that 19 cents
a gallon gas than today's paycheck goes for 3 buck gas.


I don't know what the average paycheck was back then. But as a nine year
old kid working weekends for my dad at his boat store and marina, I made
$2 an hour and I got tips from the boat owners whose boats I gassed or
washed. I had a boat with two six gallon tanks that would do for an
entire day of boating. About $2.50 for gas, a little more than an hour's
pay for weekend marina work. Of course, if my dad wasn't looking, I'd
fill up my boat gas tanks at his gas dock and "borrow" the two cycle oil
from the shop supply drum. In other words, it was pretty close to free.

Fifty cent lobster rolls. I miss those the most. :)

Growing up in potato farm country, we got a lot of gas for next to
nothing as well for our dirt bikes and snowmobiles. Our fair food was
hot dogs, hamburgers and Italian sausages on a sub roll with grilled
onions and peppers, my favorite! We were pretty removed from
civilization, so food there wasn't really an adventure, just farm food.


I love Italian sausage with onions and peppers on a good crusty Italian
sub roll. Real Italian food was very common in my hometown while I was
growing up there. New Haven had a huge Italian population.