Navy SEAL dies after accidentally shooting himself
The Associated Press
Published Saturday, Jan. 07, 2012

SAN DIEGO -- Navy officials have confirmed that a Navy SEAL who
accidentally shot himself in the head has died.

Navy spokesman Lt. Cmdr. Frank Magallon tells the U-T San Diego that
Petty Officer 3rd Class Gene "Geno" Clayont, Jr. was taken off life
support on Saturday. He is survived by his parents and three sisters.

San Diego police were called on Thursday after the accident. Police say
Clayton had gone to a bar and brought a woman back to his apartment and
was showing her guns when he put a pistol to his head, believing it was
unloaded, and pulled the trigger.

Paramedics took Clayton to a San Diego hospital where he was placed on
life support.

- - -

I'm not looking for a discussion/argument about guns. I just don't
believe this story. I don't believe someone trained as thoroughly with
firearms as a Navy Seal would *accidentally* shoot himself or anyone
else, or wouldn't know that his firearm was loaded.

On Jan 7, 8:55*pm, X ` Man dump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you-
can.com wrote:
Navy SEAL dies after accidentally shooting himself
The Associated Press
Published Saturday, Jan. 07, 2012

SAN DIEGO -- Navy officials have confirmed that a Navy SEAL who
accidentally shot himself in the head has died.

Navy spokesman Lt. Cmdr. Frank Magallon tells the U-T San Diego that
Petty Officer 3rd Class Gene "Geno" Clayont, Jr. was taken off life
support on Saturday. He is survived by his parents and three sisters.

San Diego police were called on Thursday after the accident. Police say
Clayton had gone to a bar and brought a woman back to his apartment and
was showing her guns when he put a pistol to his head, believing it was
unloaded, and pulled the trigger.

Paramedics took Clayton to a San Diego hospital where he was placed on
life support.

- - -

I'm not looking for a discussion/argument about guns. I just don't
believe this story. I don't believe someone trained as thoroughly with
firearms as a Navy Seal would *accidentally* shoot himself or anyone
else, or wouldn't know that his firearm was loaded.

On Jan 7, 8:55*pm, X ` Man dump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you-
can.com wrote:
Navy SEAL dies after accidentally shooting himself
The Associated Press
Published Saturday, Jan. 07, 2012

SAN DIEGO -- Navy officials have confirmed that a Navy SEAL who
accidentally shot himself in the head has died.

Navy spokesman Lt. Cmdr. Frank Magallon tells the U-T San Diego that
Petty Officer 3rd Class Gene "Geno" Clayont, Jr. was taken off life
support on Saturday. He is survived by his parents and three sisters.

San Diego police were called on Thursday after the accident. Police say
Clayton had gone to a bar and brought a woman back to his apartment and
was showing her guns when he put a pistol to his head, believing it was
unloaded, and pulled the trigger.

Paramedics took Clayton to a San Diego hospital where he was placed on
life support.

- - -

I'm not looking for a discussion/argument about guns. I just don't
believe this story. I don't believe someone trained as thoroughly with
firearms as a Navy Seal would *accidentally* shoot himself or anyone
else, or wouldn't know that his firearm was loaded.

I agree that the odds of that happening are very VERY slim, but there
is that chance that it could have happened, but I'd be suspicious as
well..

On 1/7/2012 10:32 PM, Tim wrote:
On Jan 7, 8:55 pm, X ` Mandump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you-
can.com wrote:
Navy SEAL dies after accidentally shooting himself
The Associated Press
Published Saturday, Jan. 07, 2012

SAN DIEGO -- Navy officials have confirmed that a Navy SEAL who
accidentally shot himself in the head has died.

Navy spokesman Lt. Cmdr. Frank Magallon tells the U-T San Diego that
Petty Officer 3rd Class Gene "Geno" Clayont, Jr. was taken off life
support on Saturday. He is survived by his parents and three sisters.

San Diego police were called on Thursday after the accident. Police say
Clayton had gone to a bar and brought a woman back to his apartment and
was showing her guns when he put a pistol to his head, believing it was
unloaded, and pulled the trigger.

Paramedics took Clayton to a San Diego hospital where he was placed on
life support.

- - -

I'm not looking for a discussion/argument about guns. I just don't
believe this story. I don't believe someone trained as thoroughly with
firearms as a Navy Seal would *accidentally* shoot himself or anyone
else, or wouldn't know that his firearm was loaded.

I agree that the odds of that happening are very VERY slim, but there
is that chance that it could have happened, but I'd be suspicious as
well..

I'm sure NCIS is scrutinizing the incident. I'm sure all the facts
weren't released to the newshounds.

On 1/7/12 10:32 PM, Tim wrote:
On Jan 7, 8:55 pm, X ` Mandump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you-
can.com wrote:
Navy SEAL dies after accidentally shooting himself
The Associated Press
Published Saturday, Jan. 07, 2012

SAN DIEGO -- Navy officials have confirmed that a Navy SEAL who
accidentally shot himself in the head has died.

Navy spokesman Lt. Cmdr. Frank Magallon tells the U-T San Diego that
Petty Officer 3rd Class Gene "Geno" Clayont, Jr. was taken off life
support on Saturday. He is survived by his parents and three sisters.

San Diego police were called on Thursday after the accident. Police say
Clayton had gone to a bar and brought a woman back to his apartment and
was showing her guns when he put a pistol to his head, believing it was
unloaded, and pulled the trigger.

Paramedics took Clayton to a San Diego hospital where he was placed on
life support.

- - -

I'm not looking for a discussion/argument about guns. I just don't
believe this story. I don't believe someone trained as thoroughly with
firearms as a Navy Seal would *accidentally* shoot himself or anyone
else, or wouldn't know that his firearm was loaded.

I agree that the odds of that happening are very VERY slim, but there
is that chance that it could have happened, but I'd be suspicious as
well..


Everyone is taught to assume a gun is loaded unless you personally check
and see that it isn't.

On Sun, 08 Jan 2012 08:08:55 -0500, X ` Man
wrote:

I'm not looking for a discussion/argument about guns. I just don't
believe this story. I don't believe someone trained as thoroughly with
firearms as a Navy Seal would *accidentally* shoot himself or anyone
else, or wouldn't know that his firearm was loaded.

I agree that the odds of that happening are very VERY slim, but there
is that chance that it could have happened, but I'd be suspicious as
well..


Everyone is taught to assume a gun is loaded unless you personally check
and see that it isn't.

===

All we know for sure is that in addition to the gun, alcohol and a
woman were involved. Dangerous combination, perfectly capable of
cancelling out a lot of good training. Have you ever known anyone
who got smarter when they were drinking and/or trying to impress a
woman?

On 1/8/12 9:45 AM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Sun, 08 Jan 2012 08:08:55 -0500, X `
wrote:

I'm not looking for a discussion/argument about guns. I just don't
believe this story. I don't believe someone trained as thoroughly with
firearms as a Navy Seal would *accidentally* shoot himself or anyone
else, or wouldn't know that his firearm was loaded.

I agree that the odds of that happening are very VERY slim, but there
is that chance that it could have happened, but I'd be suspicious as
well..


Everyone is taught to assume a gun is loaded unless you personally check
and see that it isn't.

===

All we know for sure is that in addition to the gun, alcohol and a
woman were involved. Dangerous combination, perfectly capable of
cancelling out a lot of good training. Have you ever known anyone
who got smarter when they were drinking and/or trying to impress a
woman?



Another case of "Cherchez la femme..."?

On Sun, 08 Jan 2012 09:48:03 -0500, X ` Man
wrote:

Cherchez la femme

===

"Some people claim that there's a woman to blame..."
- J. Buffet

On Sun, 08 Jan 2012 09:45:32 -0500, Wayne.B wrote:

On Sun, 08 Jan 2012 08:08:55 -0500, X ` Man
wrote:

I'm not looking for a discussion/argument about guns. I just don't
believe this story. I don't believe someone trained as thoroughly with
firearms as a Navy Seal would *accidentally* shoot himself or anyone
else, or wouldn't know that his firearm was loaded.

I agree that the odds of that happening are very VERY slim, but there
is that chance that it could have happened, but I'd be suspicious as
well..


Everyone is taught to assume a gun is loaded unless you personally check
and see that it isn't.

===

All we know for sure is that in addition to the gun, alcohol and a
woman were involved. Dangerous combination, perfectly capable of
cancelling out a lot of good training. Have you ever known anyone
who got smarter when they were drinking and/or trying to impress a
woman?

I'd probably find the story a little more believable if the woman had 'accidentally' shot the SEAL,
or vice-versa.

I gotta agree with Harry on this one. But, booze can do some strange stuff, I guess. I haven't had
any in so long I don't know what the new stuff is like!

On Jan 8, 8:54*am, Happy John wrote:
On Sun, 08 Jan 2012 09:45:32 -0500, Wayne.B wrote:
On Sun, 08 Jan 2012 08:08:55 -0500, X ` Man
wrote:

I'm not looking for a discussion/argument about guns. I just don't
believe this story. I don't believe someone trained as thoroughly with
firearms as a Navy Seal would *accidentally* shoot himself or anyone
else, or wouldn't know that his firearm was loaded.

I agree that the odds of that happening are very VERY slim, but there
is that chance that it could have happened, but I'd be suspicious as
well..

Everyone is taught to assume a gun is loaded unless you personally check
and see that it isn't.

===

All we know for sure is that in addition to the gun, alcohol and a
woman were involved. * Dangerous combination, perfectly capable of
cancelling out a lot of good training. * Have you ever known anyone
who got smarter when they were drinking and/or trying to impress a
woman?

I'd probably find the story a little more believable if the woman had 'accidentally' shot the SEAL,
or vice-versa.

I gotta agree with Harry on this one. But, booze can do some strange stuff, I guess. I haven't had
any in so long I don't know what the new stuff is like!

There;s been records of people playing stupid with themselves, though.
Especially actors. Some that come to mind was Brandon Lee, Jon-Erik
Hexum, and Pete Duel.

Then there's James Freiberger.

SIERRA VISTA — Drugs and alcohol both were factors in the death of a
man who authorities say accidentally shot himself at a party in
Tombstone on Friday.

James Freiberger, 36, of Sierra Vista died after taking a .357-caliber
revolver from a friend who was showing him the gun and, thinking it
was unloaded, put it to his head and pulled the trigger, said
Tombstone Marshal Billy Cloud.