On Mar 18, 2:14*pm, Happy John wrote:
On Sat, 17 Mar 2012 07:34:35 -0700 (PDT), North Star wrote:
On Mar 17, 11:19*am, wrote:
On Sat, 17 Mar 2012 06:53:15 -0700 (PDT), North Star

wrote:
I'l looking around for an aluminum boat. The ideal type would be about
15-16 feet long, with a flat floor, 20" transom, a walk-through
windshield, probably a 40 hp 4 stroke motor and a galvanized or
aluminum trailer.
New around here, they cost between 17 & 18 grand plus 15%HST. * Of
course I'd like one in almost new condition.
In this area, 2nd hand models are hard to find.... although Kijiji is
full of heavier 20-25 yr old fiberglass runabouts/bow riders.
I am limited to a total tow weight of 1500 lbs.
Are there any markets in the Eastern/Central US that might have lots
of this style available?

The Pacific Northwest has a much higher percentage of this type of
boat, but Florida has much cheaper prices.

I'm not sure the hassle and expense of customs and shipping will
offset any gains in buying cheaper.

If the boat/trailer/motor are made in either the US or Canada... the
biggest problem is having the trailer declared compliant with Canadian
standards.
The feds want their 6% GST on the total value of the entire rig plus
approx $300 fee for processing the trailer. (same as if I was
importing a car)
I do have to get a special inspection for the trailer at an authorized
garage, the garage has to fill out the papers correctly (a problem
last time) and then the province wants a provincial safety check and
9% PST on the trailer value.
This is if I tow the rig back and have proper documentation.
All would be worthwhile for that 'special boat'.

Why not buy the trailer in Canada, tow it down to the boat, and bring the boat back thereon?

I've thought about that... especially after the hassle I had back in
2007.
I would have to find a seller who was willing to break up his rig and
deduct an agreed amount from the selling price to reflect that.

North Star wrote:
On Mar 17, 9:49 pm, wrote:
North Star wrote:
On Mar 17, 11:19 am, wrote:
On Sat, 17 Mar 2012 06:53:15 -0700 (PDT), North Star
wrote:
I'l looking around for an aluminum boat. The ideal type would be about
15-16 feet long, with a flat floor, 20" transom, a walk-through
windshield, probably a 40 hp 4 stroke motor and a galvanized or
aluminum trailer.
New around here, they cost between 17& 18 grand plus 15%HST. Of
course I'd like one in almost new condition.
In this area, 2nd hand models are hard to find.... although Kijiji is
full of heavier 20-25 yr old fiberglass runabouts/bow riders.
I am limited to a total tow weight of 1500 lbs.
Are there any markets in the Eastern/Central US that might have lots
of this style available?
The Pacific Northwest has a much higher percentage of this type of
boat, but Florida has much cheaper prices.
I'm not sure the hassle and expense of customs and shipping will
offset any gains in buying cheaper.
If the boat/trailer/motor are made in either the US or Canada... the
biggest problem is having the trailer declared compliant with Canadian
standards.
The feds want their 6% GST on the total value of the entire rig plus
approx $300 fee for processing the trailer. (same as if I was
importing a car)
I do have to get a special inspection for the trailer at an authorized
garage, the garage has to fill out the papers correctly (a problem
last time) and then the province wants a provincial safety check and
9% PST on the trailer value.
This is if I tow the rig back and have proper documentation.
All would be worthwhile for that 'special boat'.
If you are determined to get a used boat, try this...

http://www.boattrader.com/

Are they hard to find in your area?
Yup... good 2nd hand models don't seem to make it to the dealers or to
Kijiji/Graigs List.
I'd guess people either keep them or sell to family or friends.
Being right on the ocean, there seems to be a lot more fiberglass
sailboats& powerboats.
That would make sense but you do have a lot of good freshwater fishing
there, too. I'd be patient and keep looking.

Happy John wrote:
On Sat, 17 Mar 2012 07:34:35 -0700 (PDT), North wrote:

On Mar 17, 11:19 am, wrote:
On Sat, 17 Mar 2012 06:53:15 -0700 (PDT), North Star

wrote:
I'l looking around for an aluminum boat. The ideal type would be about
15-16 feet long, with a flat floor, 20" transom, a walk-through
windshield, probably a 40 hp 4 stroke motor and a galvanized or
aluminum trailer.
New around here, they cost between 17& 18 grand plus 15%HST. Of
course I'd like one in almost new condition.
In this area, 2nd hand models are hard to find.... although Kijiji is
full of heavier 20-25 yr old fiberglass runabouts/bow riders.
I am limited to a total tow weight of 1500 lbs.
Are there any markets in the Eastern/Central US that might have lots
of this style available?
The Pacific Northwest has a much higher percentage of this type of
boat, but Florida has much cheaper prices.

I'm not sure the hassle and expense of customs and shipping will
offset any gains in buying cheaper.
If the boat/trailer/motor are made in either the US or Canada... the
biggest problem is having the trailer declared compliant with Canadian
standards.
The feds want their 6% GST on the total value of the entire rig plus
approx $300 fee for processing the trailer. (same as if I was
importing a car)
I do have to get a special inspection for the trailer at an authorized
garage, the garage has to fill out the papers correctly (a problem
last time) and then the province wants a provincial safety check and
9% PST on the trailer value.
This is if I tow the rig back and have proper documentation.
All would be worthwhile for that 'special boat'.
Why not buy the trailer in Canada, tow it down to the boat, and bring the boat back thereon?

Good idea! Trailers are cheap and easy to sell.

On Mar 19, 9:16*pm, Earl wrote:
North Star wrote:
On Mar 17, 9:49 pm, *wrote:
North Star wrote:
On Mar 17, 11:19 am, wrote:
On Sat, 17 Mar 2012 06:53:15 -0700 (PDT), North Star
* *wrote:
I'l looking around for an aluminum boat. The ideal type would be about
15-16 feet long, with a flat floor, 20" transom, a walk-through
windshield, probably a 40 hp 4 stroke motor and a galvanized or
aluminum trailer.
New around here, they cost between 17& * *18 grand plus 15%HST. * Of
course I'd like one in almost new condition.
In this area, 2nd hand models are hard to find.... although Kijiji is
full of heavier 20-25 yr old fiberglass runabouts/bow riders.
I am limited to a total tow weight of 1500 lbs.
Are there any markets in the Eastern/Central US that might have lots
of this style available?
The Pacific Northwest has a much higher percentage of this type of
boat, but Florida has much cheaper prices.
I'm not sure the hassle and expense of customs and shipping will
offset any gains in buying cheaper.
If the boat/trailer/motor are made in either the US or Canada... the
biggest problem is having the trailer declared compliant with Canadian
standards.
The feds want their 6% GST on the total value of the entire rig plus
approx $300 fee for processing the trailer. (same as if I was
importing a car)
I do have to get a special inspection for the trailer at an authorized
garage, the garage has to fill out the papers correctly (a problem
last time) and then the province wants a provincial safety check and
9% PST on the trailer value.
This is if I tow the rig back and have proper documentation.
All would be worthwhile for that 'special boat'.
If you are determined to get a used boat, try this...

http://www.boattrader.com/

Are they hard to find in your area?
Yup... good 2nd hand models don't seem to make it to the dealers or to
Kijiji/Graigs List.
I'd guess people either keep them or sell to family or friends.
Being right on the ocean, there seems to be a lot more fiberglass
sailboats& *powerboats.

That would make sense but you do have a lot of good freshwater fishing
there, too. *I'd be patient and keep looking.

I'm talking to a guy in Alabama who is selling a like new 2010 model
of the small micro-cruiser sailboat I like.
It would save me somewhere north of $3K to drive down and tow home
this boat (3600 miles round trip) but it's missing two options I'd
really like to have... opening ports in the cabin and a stern rail in
the cockpit. I had a new Siren 17 sailboat in the same size range back
in the 80s and I found the new smell of fibreglass a bit
overwhelming. What to do???

In article 0cd2e373-bc33-4cee-a2c5-
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says...

On Mar 19, 9:16*pm, Earl wrote:
North Star wrote:
On Mar 17, 9:49 pm, *wrote:
North Star wrote:
On Mar 17, 11:19 am, wrote:
On Sat, 17 Mar 2012 06:53:15 -0700 (PDT), North Star
* *wrote:
I'l looking around for an aluminum boat. The ideal type would be about
15-16 feet long, with a flat floor, 20" transom, a walk-through
windshield, probably a 40 hp 4 stroke motor and a galvanized or
aluminum trailer.
New around here, they cost between 17& * *18 grand plus 15%HST. * Of
course I'd like one in almost new condition.
In this area, 2nd hand models are hard to find.... although Kijiji is
full of heavier 20-25 yr old fiberglass runabouts/bow riders.
I am limited to a total tow weight of 1500 lbs.
Are there any markets in the Eastern/Central US that might have lots
of this style available?
The Pacific Northwest has a much higher percentage of this type of
boat, but Florida has much cheaper prices.
I'm not sure the hassle and expense of customs and shipping will
offset any gains in buying cheaper.
If the boat/trailer/motor are made in either the US or Canada... the
biggest problem is having the trailer declared compliant with Canadian
standards.
The feds want their 6% GST on the total value of the entire rig plus
approx $300 fee for processing the trailer. (same as if I was
importing a car)
I do have to get a special inspection for the trailer at an authorized
garage, the garage has to fill out the papers correctly (a problem
last time) and then the province wants a provincial safety check and
9% PST on the trailer value.
This is if I tow the rig back and have proper documentation.
All would be worthwhile for that 'special boat'.
If you are determined to get a used boat, try this...

http://www.boattrader.com/

Are they hard to find in your area?
Yup... good 2nd hand models don't seem to make it to the dealers or to
Kijiji/Graigs List.
I'd guess people either keep them or sell to family or friends.
Being right on the ocean, there seems to be a lot more fiberglass
sailboats& *powerboats.

That would make sense but you do have a lot of good freshwater fishing
there, too. *I'd be patient and keep looking.

I'm talking to a guy in Alabama who is selling a like new 2010 model
of the small micro-cruiser sailboat I like.
It would save me somewhere north of $3K to drive down and tow home
this boat (3600 miles round trip) but it's missing two options I'd
really like to have... opening ports in the cabin and a stern rail in
the cockpit. I had a new Siren 17 sailboat in the same size range back
in the 80s and I found the new smell of fibreglass a bit
overwhelming. What to do???

A condescending asshole like you would probably get the **** kicked out
of him in Alabama.

On Tue, 20 Mar 2012 12:17:55 -0700 (PDT), North Star
wrote:

I'm talking to a guy in Alabama who is selling a like new 2010 model
of the small micro-cruiser sailboat I like.
It would save me somewhere north of $3K to drive down and tow home
this boat (3600 miles round trip) but it's missing two options I'd
really like to have... opening ports in the cabin and a stern rail in
the cockpit. I had a new Siren 17 sailboat in the same size range back
in the 80s and I found the new smell of fibreglass a bit
overwhelming. What to do???

===

That's a long way to drive for the wrong boat.

North Star wrote:
On Mar 19, 9:16 pm, wrote:
North Star wrote:
On Mar 17, 9:49 pm, wrote:
North Star wrote:
On Mar 17, 11:19 am, wrote:
On Sat, 17 Mar 2012 06:53:15 -0700 (PDT), North Star
wrote:
I'l looking around for an aluminum boat. The ideal type would be about
15-16 feet long, with a flat floor, 20" transom, a walk-through
windshield, probably a 40 hp 4 stroke motor and a galvanized or
aluminum trailer.
New around here, they cost between 17& 18 grand plus 15%HST. Of
course I'd like one in almost new condition.
In this area, 2nd hand models are hard to find.... although Kijiji is
full of heavier 20-25 yr old fiberglass runabouts/bow riders.
I am limited to a total tow weight of 1500 lbs.
Are there any markets in the Eastern/Central US that might have lots
of this style available?
The Pacific Northwest has a much higher percentage of this type of
boat, but Florida has much cheaper prices.
I'm not sure the hassle and expense of customs and shipping will
offset any gains in buying cheaper.
If the boat/trailer/motor are made in either the US or Canada... the
biggest problem is having the trailer declared compliant with Canadian
standards.
The feds want their 6% GST on the total value of the entire rig plus
approx $300 fee for processing the trailer. (same as if I was
importing a car)
I do have to get a special inspection for the trailer at an authorized
garage, the garage has to fill out the papers correctly (a problem
last time) and then the province wants a provincial safety check and
9% PST on the trailer value.
This is if I tow the rig back and have proper documentation.
All would be worthwhile for that 'special boat'.
If you are determined to get a used boat, try this...
http://www.boattrader.com/
Are they hard to find in your area?
Yup... good 2nd hand models don't seem to make it to the dealers or to
Kijiji/Graigs List.
I'd guess people either keep them or sell to family or friends.
Being right on the ocean, there seems to be a lot more fiberglass
sailboats& powerboats.
That would make sense but you do have a lot of good freshwater fishing
there, too. I'd be patient and keep looking.
I'm talking to a guy in Alabama who is selling a like new 2010 model
of the small micro-cruiser sailboat I like.
It would save me somewhere north of $3K to drive down and tow home
this boat (3600 miles round trip) but it's missing two options I'd
really like to have... opening ports in the cabin and a stern rail in
the cockpit. I had a new Siren 17 sailboat in the same size range back
in the 80s and I found the new smell of fibreglass a bit
overwhelming. What to do???
You can add the ports and rail, right? Factor that in and make your
decision...

On 3/17/2012 8:18 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 17 Mar 2012 06:53:15 -0700 (PDT), North Star
wrote:

I'l looking around for an aluminum boat. The ideal type would be about
15-16 feet long, with a flat floor, 20" transom, a walk-through
windshield, probably a 40 hp 4 stroke motor and a galvanized or
aluminum trailer.
New around here, they cost between 17& 18 grand plus 15%HST. Of
course I'd like one in almost new condition.
In this area, 2nd hand models are hard to find.... although Kijiji is
full of heavier 20-25 yr old fiberglass runabouts/bow riders.
I am limited to a total tow weight of 1500 lbs.
Are there any markets in the Eastern/Central US that might have lots
of this style available?

If the snow birds are any indication, these are most popular in
Minnesota , Michigan, Wisconsin and Ontario. I guess it is the boat of
choice in those northern lakes. There are a couple of 18-19' aluminum
boats here in the winter from Ontario (E in the number) that have lots
of freeboard and get taken offshore.

The last time I was in the Detroit area there were a lot of boats for sale.