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On 6/6/2012 8:44 AM, Tim wrote:
On Jun 5, 10:40 pm, wrote: On 6/5/2012 11:13 PM, Tim wrote: On Jun 5, 8:17 pm, wrote: On 6/5/2012 6:26 PM, Tim wrote: On Jun 5, 5:10 pm, wrote: On 6/5/2012 4:38 PM, Wayne.B wrote: On Tue, 05 Jun 2012 10:28:52 -0400, wrote: The facts: 9'X5' inflatable with inflatable keel and hard floor. 5hp 4 stroke engine. 7 1/2 X 7 3 blade prop. Here's what's happening: Engine runs smooth as silk. At about 1/2 throttle GPS measures 4 1/2 MPH At full throttle GPS measures a little over 5MPH There is no noticeable change in pitch or DB between 1/2 and full throttle. Engine doesn't seem to be bogging down. Speed increase between 1/2 and full throttle is gradual even though throttle is advanced quickly. Boat bottom is clean. Prop is in excellent shape. Questions: Is this normal? Should I try a lower pitched prop? Do I need more Horsepower? What do you think? === As others have mentioned, you are running up against the hull speed of the dinghy and don't have enough power to get on plane. My experience with inflatables is that you need at least 8 or 9 hp to get on plane with 2 adults, and 15 hp is even better. A Doel-Fin on the outboard is also a big help. I assume you have a rigid transom? If so it should have a manufacturers plate somewhere which states your max horsepower rating. That's usually about the right number for everyday use. http://www.basspro.com/Doel-fin-Hydrofoil-Stabilizer/product/27337/88... I doubt they make doel fins small enough. I suspected HP was the problem and you guys confirmed it. I suppose the best thing to do is use just enough throttle to drive it to hull speed and be satisfied. thanks for your input. But i you could get at least a 10-12 and put on it, I'd say you'd bemore pleased with it's obvious performance, but also better fuel economy per a set distance. Reality is Tim, that the boat is performing within its design parameters and I'm good with that. Ok. I was thinking you were wanting more performance out of it- something to push the hull out of the water. It really depends on what kind of softside it is... If it's designed for planing fine, but my seveylor didn't have enough stiffness and the ingegrated motor mount wouldn't support anything more than three or four horse. I bent one motormount with an 8 horse before the boat ever got on plane... When i read ti had a keel and hard floor. I thought it was a more rigid type craft. I dont' know much of anything about inflatables. Still could be that type, but I didn't catch it in the original description.. |
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On 6/6/2012 9:50 AM, JustWait wrote:
On 6/6/2012 8:44 AM, Tim wrote: On Jun 5, 10:40 pm, wrote: On 6/5/2012 11:13 PM, Tim wrote: On Jun 5, 8:17 pm, wrote: On 6/5/2012 6:26 PM, Tim wrote: On Jun 5, 5:10 pm, wrote: On 6/5/2012 4:38 PM, Wayne.B wrote: On Tue, 05 Jun 2012 10:28:52 -0400, wrote: The facts: 9'X5' inflatable with inflatable keel and hard floor. 5hp 4 stroke engine. 7 1/2 X 7 3 blade prop. Here's what's happening: Engine runs smooth as silk. At about 1/2 throttle GPS measures 4 1/2 MPH At full throttle GPS measures a little over 5MPH There is no noticeable change in pitch or DB between 1/2 and full throttle. Engine doesn't seem to be bogging down. Speed increase between 1/2 and full throttle is gradual even though throttle is advanced quickly. Boat bottom is clean. Prop is in excellent shape. Questions: Is this normal? Should I try a lower pitched prop? Do I need more Horsepower? What do you think? === As others have mentioned, you are running up against the hull speed of the dinghy and don't have enough power to get on plane. My experience with inflatables is that you need at least 8 or 9 hp to get on plane with 2 adults, and 15 hp is even better. A Doel-Fin on the outboard is also a big help. I assume you have a rigid transom? If so it should have a manufacturers plate somewhere which states your max horsepower rating. That's usually about the right number for everyday use. http://www.basspro.com/Doel-fin-Hydrofoil-Stabilizer/product/27337/88... I doubt they make doel fins small enough. I suspected HP was the problem and you guys confirmed it. I suppose the best thing to do is use just enough throttle to drive it to hull speed and be satisfied. thanks for your input. But i you could get at least a 10-12 and put on it, I'd say you'd bemore pleased with it's obvious performance, but also better fuel economy per a set distance. Reality is Tim, that the boat is performing within its design parameters and I'm good with that. Ok. I was thinking you were wanting more performance out of it- something to push the hull out of the water. It really depends on what kind of softside it is... If it's designed for planing fine, but my seveylor didn't have enough stiffness and the ingegrated motor mount wouldn't support anything more than three or four horse. I bent one motormount with an 8 horse before the boat ever got on plane... When i read ti had a keel and hard floor. I thought it was a more rigid type craft. I dont' know much of anything about inflatables. Still could be that type, but I didn't catch it in the original description.. It's not a RIB |
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On Wed, 06 Jun 2012 09:26:03 -0400, Oscar wrote:
On 6/5/2012 11:14 PM, Wayne.B wrote: On Tue, 05 Jun 2012 21:25:10 -0400, wrote: I'm positive that WOT RPM is way too low. === In that case a prop with lower pitch is the right way to go. At least the motor will be operating within its designed range and you might be able to get on plane if you're really lightly loaded. You almost have me convinced to put a different prop on it. If I do, I will Tach it first like someone else suggested. === I put a lower pitch prop and a Doel-fin on our Honda 4 stroke and it made all the difference in the world. As a bonus you end up with a spare prop. :-) |
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On Jun 6, 8:20*am, Oscar wrote:
I'm not the musclebound hulk I used to be ;-) Don't feel alone... |
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