On Wed, 13 Jun 2012 19:22:25 -0700, jps wrote:

On Wed, 13 Jun 2012 18:49:00 -0400, bob wrote:

next year will start shopping for a replacement for our 26' sedan
cruiser. prefer used, in the range of 34-40', price under 50K. Plan to
live aboard at some point so livability is primary. any ideas? thanks
much

Single screw Taiwanese trawlers in the 30 - 34 ft range can be had for
under $50k. Lot's of 70's and 80's boats with good layouts. You best
be mechanically inclined.

The definition of cruising is "working on your boat in exotic places"
or something like that.

yeah won't be doing much crusinng...just tooling around the bay

On Sat, 16 Jun 2012 15:49:25 -0400, bob wrote:

On Wed, 13 Jun 2012 18:57:30 -0400, Oscar wrote:

On 6/13/2012 6:49 PM, bob wrote:
next year will start shopping for a replacement for our 26' sedan
cruiser. prefer used, in the range of 34-40', price under 50K. Plan to
live aboard at some point so livability is primary. any ideas? thanks
much

Maybe a larger, older Tolly. Or a houseboat.

yep have a 26 tolly right now...love it. great boat. have to see about
houseboat...wife loves 'em

===

I'm not so sure a houseboat is suitable for the New Jersey shore area
unless you stay way back in the bays and ICW. One of my more
interesting memories of Barnegat is seeing a 70 something commercial
fishing boat laying on its side after being broached and capsized in
the inlet.

On Sat, 16 Jun 2012 15:52:00 -0400, bob wrote:

On Wed, 13 Jun 2012 19:22:25 -0700, jps wrote:

On Wed, 13 Jun 2012 18:49:00 -0400, bob wrote:

next year will start shopping for a replacement for our 26' sedan
cruiser. prefer used, in the range of 34-40', price under 50K. Plan to
live aboard at some point so livability is primary. any ideas? thanks
much

Single screw Taiwanese trawlers in the 30 - 34 ft range can be had for
under $50k. Lot's of 70's and 80's boats with good layouts. You best
be mechanically inclined.

The definition of cruising is "working on your boat in exotic places"
or something like that.

yeah won't be doing much crusinng...just tooling around the bay

Hey, different anchorages from home port all make a good backdrop to
workin' on the boat.

On Jun 17, 7:30*am, X ` Man

I was thinking...land refuse center. By the time you make a hulk of a
boat "livable," you will have spent more than it takes to buy a boat
where most of the systems are in decent shape. Also, if planning to
"live aboard" in a northern clime, the average old cruiser like this Sea
Ray really sucks. They're not insulated, freezing water and waste lines
inside and outside the boat are real and continuing problems, there's
not much convenience inside. These boats are not the equivalent of a 35'
travel trailer.


However. He never said where the boat would be docked. He might want
it in Texas for all I know.

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On Jun 17, 7:30*am, X ` Man

I was thinking...land refuse center. By the time you make a hulk of a
boat "livable," you will have spent more than it takes to buy a boat
where most of the systems are in decent shape. Also, if planning to
"live aboard" in a northern clime, the average old cruiser like this Sea
Ray really sucks. They're not insulated, freezing water and waste lines
inside and outside the boat are real and continuing problems, there's
not much convenience inside. These boats are not the equivalent of a 35'
travel trailer.


However. He never said where the boat would be docked. He might want
it in Texas for all I know.

Oh, you know how it is. Harry has to say something crappy about anything
that isn't his, or he doesn't want. Childish, really.

On 6/17/12 9:43 AM, Tim wrote:
On Jun 17, 7:30 am, X ` Man

I was thinking...land refuse center. By the time you make a hulk of a
boat "livable," you will have spent more than it takes to buy a boat
where most of the systems are in decent shape. Also, if planning to
"live aboard" in a northern clime, the average old cruiser like this Sea
Ray really sucks. They're not insulated, freezing water and waste lines
inside and outside the boat are real and continuing problems, there's
not much convenience inside. These boats are not the equivalent of a 35'
travel trailer.


However. He never said where the boat would be docked. He might want
it in Texas for all I know.


It's still not so great, especially if the boat can't move on its own
power. I had a friend, now deceased, who lived on a pretty decent cabin
cruiser down by the Washington Marina in downtown DC. There were always
"things" going wrong on the boat, sometimes serious things, usually
having to do with plumbing or it being too hot or too cold. It's not
like "cruising" in the Carib. Restoring a hulk is a pretty big
undertaking that requires lots of time and substantial cash. And really
living on a small boat, full-time, requires significant attitudinal changes.

We have a pretty decent boat, and we wouldn't want to "live" on it for
more than a week at a time, and it has, reasonably, most of the comforts
of home, and nothing on the boat is broken.

On Sun, 17 Jun 2012 08:30:38 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

Also, if planning to
"live aboard" in a northern clime, the average old cruiser like this Sea
Ray really sucks.

===

Living aboard in a northern clime really sucks regardless of the boat
except for the 3 or 4 months of decent weather in the summer. One of
our lessons learned from taking the boat north is to not arrive in
New England before mid-June and to be back in the Chesapeake headed
south by mid to late September.

On Sun, 17 Jun 2012 09:55:57 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

nothing on the boat is broken.

===

Have you looked behind the wheel?

On 6/17/12 11:20 AM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Sun, 17 Jun 2012 09:55:57 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

nothing on the boat is broken.

===

Have you looked behind the wheel?


Yeah, the wheel is attached to a beautiful wood cabinet. The cabinet has
access doors so the electronics can be accessed.

On 6/17/12 11:18 AM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Sun, 17 Jun 2012 08:30:38 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

Also, if planning to
"live aboard" in a northern clime, the average old cruiser like this Sea
Ray really sucks.

===

Living aboard in a northern clime really sucks regardless of the boat
except for the 3 or 4 months of decent weather in the summer. One of
our lessons learned from taking the boat north is to not arrive in
New England before mid-June and to be back in the Chesapeake headed
south by mid to late September.



We always enjoyed pretty good boating weather in Connecticut from May
through about the middle of October, five to five and a half months,
"mileage" varying. One of my school chums who was a competitive small
sailboat racer used to get started with practice in April.