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On Monday, June 18, 2012 6:58:30 PM UTC-4, BAR wrote:
In article , says... On Monday, June 18, 2012 8:31:29 AM UTC-4, Tim wrote: On Jun 18, 7:12*am, X ` Man dump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you- can.com wrote: On 6/18/12 8:01 AM, Tim wrote: On Jun 18, 6:43 am, X ` Man dump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you- can.com wrote: On 6/18/12 7:27 AM, BAR wrote: In article ci..org, says... Rangel joined the US Army at 18. *He was assigned to the segregated, all-African-American 503rd Field Artillery Battalion. *His nickname was ?Sarge,? which was funny, because Rangel actually was a private first class, not a sergeant. On November 27, 1950, Rangel?s commander, General Douglas MacArthur, learned that the Chinese Army was about to surround America?s Eighth Army. *MacArthur ordered the Eighth Army to retreat. *But that could happen only if American units held off the Chinese forces on the Eighth Army?s right flank. *Charlie Rangel?s unit was given that suicide mission, in what became known as the Battle of Kunu-Ri. The Chinese Army quickly surrounded Rangel?s unit. *His unit kept fighting. Sundown brought less shooting, but also bitter cold. *The temperature dropped below zero. *Even at night, the Chinese Army?s bugle orders rang out, and the night sky was lit by Chinese flares. *Rangel called it a ?waking nightmare.? *He kept fighting. Having the high ground, the Chinese Army pounded Rangel?s unit with artillery fire. *On the third day, an explosion sent shrapnel into Rangel?s back. *The shrapnel hit him so hard that he was tossed into a ditch. *He kept fighting. Rangel and his unit could hear American soldiers screaming and moaning. *They could hear American soldiers being taken prisoner. *Rangel said, ?We couldn?t see any possible way out of the situation.? *They could have surrendered. *But they didn?t. Rangel and his unit were trapped behind enemy lines for three days of heavy fighting. *After three terrible days, under cover of darkness, Charlie Rangel, sleepless, wounded, bleeding and freezing, led 40 American soldiers to safety. Half of Rangel?s battalion died in the fighting. *Rangel spent a long time in the hospital, recuperating. *For his courage and leadership, he was awarded a Purple Heart, a Bronze Star, two Presidential Unit Citations, and three battle stars. And Charlie Rangel was awarded a certain perspective on life itself. *As Charlie always says, ?Since Kunu-ri, I have never, never had a bad day.? One week from Tuesday, Congressman Charles Rangel faces the voters in the New York Democratic Primary. *National Public Radio calls it Rangel?s ?toughest reelection challenge? since he won the seat in 1970. Win or lose, it won?t be a bad day for him. *Not after what he went through at Kunu-ri. Are you Alan Grayson or are you just stealing his words? http://www.democraticunderground.com/125146994 Wow. Rangel was a hero during his service in the military. You weren't. So was John McCain... Rangel was a hero: "Rangel and his unit were trapped behind enemy lines for three days of heavy fighting. *After three terrible days, under cover of darkness, Charlie Rangel, sleepless, wounded, bleeding and freezing, led 40 American soldiers to safety. "Half of Rangel's battalion died in the fighting. *Rangel spent a long time in the hospital, recuperating. *For his courage and leadership, he was awarded a Purple Heart, a Bronze Star, two Presidential Unit Citations, and three battle stars." McCain got shot down and survived a brutal prison camp. No small task, but in comparison to what Rangel did, not such a big deal. Actually, it was quite a big deal. And not to take away anything from Rangel's ordeal, but McCain graduated from the Naval Academy, was a pilot, and retired as a Captain (equivalent to a Colonel) from the Navy. All big accomplishments. Rangel was a Private. McCain graduated 895 out of 899. The only reason he got to fly jets is because his father was an Admiral. McCain was promoted to Captain because of his POW status. Quite a few of the former POWs were promoted at or near retirement to boost their retirement pay. Rangel was a Staff Sargent (E-6) in the Army. E-6's teach officers what they are supposed to do. At the time of Rangel's incident, he was a PFC. Suspect he was promoted afterwards, like McCain. Just couldn't go any further because of his lack of education. |
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On Monday, June 18, 2012 7:00:21 PM UTC-4, BAR wrote:
In article , says... On Monday, June 18, 2012 10:20:56 AM UTC-4, X ` Man wrote: On 6/18/12 9:41 AM, wrote: On Monday, June 18, 2012 8:31:29 AM UTC-4, Tim wrote: On Jun 18, 7:12 am, X ` Man dump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you- can.com wrote: On 6/18/12 8:01 AM, Tim wrote: On Jun 18, 6:43 am, X ` Man dump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you- can.com wrote: On 6/18/12 7:27 AM, BAR wrote: In article ci.org, says... Rangel joined the US Army at 18. He was assigned to the segregated, all-African-American 503rd Field Artillery Battalion. His nickname was ?Sarge,? which was funny, because Rangel actually was a private first class, not a sergeant. On November 27, 1950, Rangel?s commander, General Douglas MacArthur, learned that the Chinese Army was about to surround America?s Eighth Army. MacArthur ordered the Eighth Army to retreat. But that could happen only if American units held off the Chinese forces on the Eighth Army?s right flank. Charlie Rangel?s unit was given that suicide mission, in what became known as the Battle of Kunu-Ri. The Chinese Army quickly surrounded Rangel?s unit. His unit kept fighting. Sundown brought less shooting, but also bitter cold. The temperature dropped below zero. Even at night, the Chinese Army?s bugle orders rang out, and the night sky was lit by Chinese flares. Rangel called it a ?waking nightmare.? He kept fighting. Having the high ground, the Chinese Army pounded Rangel?s unit with artillery fire. On the third day, an explosion sent shrapnel into Rangel?s back. The shrapnel hit him so hard that he was tossed into a ditch.. He kept fighting. Rangel and his unit could hear American soldiers screaming and moaning. They could hear American soldiers being taken prisoner. Rangel said, ?We couldn?t see any possible way out of the situation.? They could have surrendered. But they didn?t. Rangel and his unit were trapped behind enemy lines for three days of heavy fighting. After three terrible days, under cover of darkness, Charlie Rangel, sleepless, wounded, bleeding and freezing, led 40 American soldiers to safety. Half of Rangel?s battalion died in the fighting. Rangel spent a long time in the hospital, recuperating. For his courage and leadership, he was awarded a Purple Heart, a Bronze Star, two Presidential Unit Citations, and three battle stars. And Charlie Rangel was awarded a certain perspective on life itself. As Charlie always says, ?Since Kunu-ri, I have never, never had a bad day.? One week from Tuesday, Congressman Charles Rangel faces the voters in the New York Democratic Primary. National Public Radio calls it Rangel?s ?toughest reelection challenge? since he won the seat in 1970. Win or lose, it won?t be a bad day for him. Not after what he went through at Kunu-ri. Are you Alan Grayson or are you just stealing his words? http://www.democraticunderground.com/125146994 Wow. Rangel was a hero during his service in the military. You weren't. So was John McCain... Rangel was a hero: "Rangel and his unit were trapped behind enemy lines for three days of heavy fighting. After three terrible days, under cover of darkness, Charlie Rangel, sleepless, wounded, bleeding and freezing, led 40 American soldiers to safety. "Half of Rangel's battalion died in the fighting. Rangel spent a long time in the hospital, recuperating. For his courage and leadership, he was awarded a Purple Heart, a Bronze Star, two Presidential Unit Citations, and three battle stars." McCain got shot down and survived a brutal prison camp. No small task, but in comparison to what Rangel did, not such a big deal. Actually, it was quite a big deal. And not to take away anything from Rangel's ordeal, but McCain graduated from the Naval Academy, was a pilot, and retired as a Captain (equivalent to a Colonel) from the Navy. All big accomplishments. Rangel was a Private. Yawn. And here I thought you were all about higher education and accomplishment? Rangel was a private who was trying to save his own ass. McCain is an accomplished and educated man who refused to be released from the prison camp early and out of sequence to allows others to go home first. And, of course, you couldn't cut it at the Naval Academy. Which military academy did you attend? A cousin of mine was refused an appointment at Annapolis, he went to West Point instead. He will be a General someday. I didn't, I went to a private college. I was making the point that harry couldn't cut the Naval Academy. Good deal for your cousin! |
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says... On Monday, June 18, 2012 6:58:30 PM UTC-4, BAR wrote: In article , says... On Monday, June 18, 2012 8:31:29 AM UTC-4, Tim wrote: On Jun 18, 7:12*am, X ` Man dump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you- can.com wrote: On 6/18/12 8:01 AM, Tim wrote: On Jun 18, 6:43 am, X ` Man dump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you- can.com wrote: On 6/18/12 7:27 AM, BAR wrote: In article ci.org, says... Rangel joined the US Army at 18. *He was assigned to the segregated, all-African-American 503rd Field Artillery Battalion. *His nickname was ?Sarge,? which was funny, because Rangel actually was a private first class, not a sergeant. On November 27, 1950, Rangel?s commander, General Douglas MacArthur, learned that the Chinese Army was about to surround America?s Eighth Army. *MacArthur ordered the Eighth Army to retreat. *But that could happen only if American units held off the Chinese forces on the Eighth Army?s right flank. *Charlie Rangel?s unit was given that suicide mission, in what became known as the Battle of Kunu-Ri. The Chinese Army quickly surrounded Rangel?s unit. *His unit kept fighting. Sundown brought less shooting, but also bitter cold. *The temperature dropped below zero. *Even at night, the Chinese Army?s bugle orders rang out, and the night sky was lit by Chinese flares. *Rangel called it a ?waking nightmare.? *He kept fighting. Having the high ground, the Chinese Army pounded Rangel?s unit with artillery fire. *On the third day, an explosion sent shrapnel into Rangel?s back. *The shrapnel hit him so hard that he was tossed into a ditch. *He kept fighting. Rangel and his unit could hear American soldiers screaming and moaning. *They could hear American soldiers being taken prisoner. *Rangel said, ?We couldn?t see any possible way out of the situation.? *They could have surrendered. *But they didn?t. Rangel and his unit were trapped behind enemy lines for three days of heavy fighting. *After three terrible days, under cover of darkness, Charlie Rangel, sleepless, wounded, bleeding and freezing, led 40 American soldiers to safety. Half of Rangel?s battalion died in the fighting. *Rangel spent a long time in the hospital, recuperating. *For his courage and leadership, he was awarded a Purple Heart, a Bronze Star, two Presidential Unit Citations, and three battle stars. And Charlie Rangel was awarded a certain perspective on life itself. *As Charlie always says, ?Since Kunu-ri, I have never, never had a bad day.? One week from Tuesday, Congressman Charles Rangel faces the voters in the New York Democratic Primary. *National Public Radio calls it Rangel?s ?toughest reelection challenge? since he won the seat in 1970. Win or lose, it won?t be a bad day for him. *Not after what he went through at Kunu-ri. Are you Alan Grayson or are you just stealing his words? http://www.democraticunderground.com/125146994 Wow. Rangel was a hero during his service in the military. You weren't. So was John McCain... Rangel was a hero: "Rangel and his unit were trapped behind enemy lines for three days of heavy fighting. *After three terrible days, under cover of darkness, Charlie Rangel, sleepless, wounded, bleeding and freezing, led 40 American soldiers to safety. "Half of Rangel's battalion died in the fighting. *Rangel spent a long time in the hospital, recuperating. *For his courage and leadership, he was awarded a Purple Heart, a Bronze Star, two Presidential Unit Citations, and three battle stars." McCain got shot down and survived a brutal prison camp. No small task, but in comparison to what Rangel did, not such a big deal. Actually, it was quite a big deal. And not to take away anything from Rangel's ordeal, but McCain graduated from the Naval Academy, was a pilot, and retired as a Captain (equivalent to a Colonel) from the Navy. All big accomplishments. Rangel was a Private. McCain graduated 895 out of 899. The only reason he got to fly jets is because his father was an Admiral. McCain was promoted to Captain because of his POW status. Quite a few of the former POWs were promoted at or near retirement to boost their retirement pay. Rangel was a Staff Sargent (E-6) in the Army. E-6's teach officers what they are supposed to do. At the time of Rangel's incident, he was a PFC. Suspect he was promoted afterwards, like McCain. Just couldn't go any further because of his lack of education. During the Korean War E-6 was the second highest enlisted rank in the US Army. |
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On Tuesday, June 19, 2012 6:53:50 PM UTC-4, BAR wrote:
In article , says... On Monday, June 18, 2012 6:58:30 PM UTC-4, BAR wrote: In article , says... On Monday, June 18, 2012 8:31:29 AM UTC-4, Tim wrote: On Jun 18, 7:12ï¿œam, X ` Man dump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you- can.com wrote: On 6/18/12 8:01 AM, Tim wrote: On Jun 18, 6:43 am, X ` Man dump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you- can.com wrote: On 6/18/12 7:27 AM, BAR wrote: In article ci.org, says... Rangel joined the US Army at 18. ï¿œHe was assigned to the segregated, all-African-American 503rd Field Artillery Battalion. ï¿œHis nickname was ?Sarge,? which was funny, because Rangel actually was a private first class, not a sergeant. On November 27, 1950, Rangel?s commander, General Douglas MacArthur, learned that the Chinese Army was about to surround America?s Eighth Army. ï¿œMacArthur ordered the Eighth Army to retreat. ï¿œBut that could happen only if American units held off the Chinese forces on the Eighth Army?s right flank. ï¿œCharlie Rangel?s unit was given that suicide mission, in what became known as the Battle of Kunu-Ri. The Chinese Army quickly surrounded Rangel?s unit. ï¿œHis unit kept fighting. Sundown brought less shooting, but also bitter cold. ï¿œThe temperature dropped below zero. ï¿œEven at night, the Chinese Army?s bugle orders rang out, and the night sky was lit by Chinese flares. ï¿œRangel called it a ?waking nightmare.? ï¿œHe kept fighting. Having the high ground, the Chinese Army pounded Rangel?s unit with artillery fire. ï¿œOn the third day, an explosion sent shrapnel into Rangel?s back. ï¿œThe shrapnel hit him so hard that he was tossed into a ditch. ï¿œHe kept fighting. Rangel and his unit could hear American soldiers screaming and moaning. ï¿œThey could hear American soldiers being taken prisoner. ï¿œRangel said, ?We couldn?t see any possible way out of the situation.? ï¿œThey could have surrendered. ï¿œBut they didn?t. Rangel and his unit were trapped behind enemy lines for three days of heavy fighting. ï¿œAfter three terrible days, under cover of darkness, Charlie Rangel, sleepless, wounded, bleeding and freezing, led 40 American soldiers to safety. Half of Rangel?s battalion died in the fighting. ï¿œRangel spent a long time in the hospital, recuperating. ï¿œFor his courage and leadership, he was awarded a Purple Heart, a Bronze Star, two Presidential Unit Citations, and three battle stars. And Charlie Rangel was awarded a certain perspective on life itself. ï¿œAs Charlie always says, ?Since Kunu-ri, I have never, never had a bad day.? One week from Tuesday, Congressman Charles Rangel faces the voters in the New York Democratic Primary. ï¿œNational Public Radio calls it Rangel?s ?toughest reelection challenge? since he won the seat in 1970. Win or lose, it won?t be a bad day for him. ï¿œNot after what he went through at Kunu-ri. Are you Alan Grayson or are you just stealing his words? http://www.democraticunderground.com/125146994 Wow. Rangel was a hero during his service in the military. You weren't. So was John McCain... Rangel was a hero: "Rangel and his unit were trapped behind enemy lines for three days of heavy fighting. ï¿œAfter three terrible days, under cover of darkness, Charlie Rangel, sleepless, wounded, bleeding and freezing, led 40 American soldiers to safety. "Half of Rangel's battalion died in the fighting. ï¿œRangel spent a long time in the hospital, recuperating. ï¿œFor his courage and leadership, he was awarded a Purple Heart, a Bronze Star, two Presidential Unit Citations, and three battle stars." McCain got shot down and survived a brutal prison camp. No small task, but in comparison to what Rangel did, not such a big deal. Actually, it was quite a big deal. And not to take away anything from Rangel's ordeal, but McCain graduated from the Naval Academy, was a pilot, and retired as a Captain (equivalent to a Colonel) from the Navy. All big accomplishments. Rangel was a Private. McCain graduated 895 out of 899. The only reason he got to fly jets is because his father was an Admiral. McCain was promoted to Captain because of his POW status. Quite a few of the former POWs were promoted at or near retirement to boost their retirement pay. Rangel was a Staff Sargent (E-6) in the Army. E-6's teach officers what they are supposed to do. At the time of Rangel's incident, he was a PFC. Suspect he was promoted afterwards, like McCain. Just couldn't go any further because of his lack of education. During the Korean War E-6 was the second highest enlisted rank in the US Army. From wiki: "Others nearby looked to Rangel, who though only a private first class...", which is an E3, right? Them later after his incident: "After an honorable discharge from the Army in 1952 with the rank of staff sergeant...." So my point still stands. At the time of Rangel's incident, he was a PFC. He was promoted afterwards, like McCain. Just couldn't go any further because of his lack of education. Not taking away from his situation. Just clarifying it. |
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On Monday, June 18, 2012 6:58:30 PM UTC-4, BAR wrote:
In article , says... On Monday, June 18, 2012 8:31:29 AM UTC-4, Tim wrote: On Jun 18, 7:12*am, X ` Man dump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you- can.com wrote: On 6/18/12 8:01 AM, Tim wrote: On Jun 18, 6:43 am, X ` Man dump-on-conservati...@anywhere-you- can.com wrote: On 6/18/12 7:27 AM, BAR wrote: In article ci..org, says... Rangel joined the US Army at 18. *He was assigned to the segregated, all-African-American 503rd Field Artillery Battalion. *His nickname was ?Sarge,? which was funny, because Rangel actually was a private first class, not a sergeant. On November 27, 1950, Rangel?s commander, General Douglas MacArthur, learned that the Chinese Army was about to surround America?s Eighth Army. *MacArthur ordered the Eighth Army to retreat. *But that could happen only if American units held off the Chinese forces on the Eighth Army?s right flank. *Charlie Rangel?s unit was given that suicide mission, in what became known as the Battle of Kunu-Ri. The Chinese Army quickly surrounded Rangel?s unit. *His unit kept fighting. Sundown brought less shooting, but also bitter cold. *The temperature dropped below zero. *Even at night, the Chinese Army?s bugle orders rang out, and the night sky was lit by Chinese flares. *Rangel called it a ?waking nightmare.? *He kept fighting. Having the high ground, the Chinese Army pounded Rangel?s unit with artillery fire. *On the third day, an explosion sent shrapnel into Rangel?s back. *The shrapnel hit him so hard that he was tossed into a ditch. *He kept fighting. Rangel and his unit could hear American soldiers screaming and moaning. *They could hear American soldiers being taken prisoner. *Rangel said, ?We couldn?t see any possible way out of the situation.? *They could have surrendered. *But they didn?t. Rangel and his unit were trapped behind enemy lines for three days of heavy fighting. *After three terrible days, under cover of darkness, Charlie Rangel, sleepless, wounded, bleeding and freezing, led 40 American soldiers to safety. Half of Rangel?s battalion died in the fighting. *Rangel spent a long time in the hospital, recuperating. *For his courage and leadership, he was awarded a Purple Heart, a Bronze Star, two Presidential Unit Citations, and three battle stars. And Charlie Rangel was awarded a certain perspective on life itself. *As Charlie always says, ?Since Kunu-ri, I have never, never had a bad day.? One week from Tuesday, Congressman Charles Rangel faces the voters in the New York Democratic Primary. *National Public Radio calls it Rangel?s ?toughest reelection challenge? since he won the seat in 1970. Win or lose, it won?t be a bad day for him. *Not after what he went through at Kunu-ri. Are you Alan Grayson or are you just stealing his words? http://www.democraticunderground.com/125146994 Wow. Rangel was a hero during his service in the military. You weren't. So was John McCain... Rangel was a hero: "Rangel and his unit were trapped behind enemy lines for three days of heavy fighting. *After three terrible days, under cover of darkness, Charlie Rangel, sleepless, wounded, bleeding and freezing, led 40 American soldiers to safety. "Half of Rangel's battalion died in the fighting. *Rangel spent a long time in the hospital, recuperating. *For his courage and leadership, he was awarded a Purple Heart, a Bronze Star, two Presidential Unit Citations, and three battle stars." McCain got shot down and survived a brutal prison camp. No small task, but in comparison to what Rangel did, not such a big deal. Actually, it was quite a big deal. And not to take away anything from Rangel's ordeal, but McCain graduated from the Naval Academy, was a pilot, and retired as a Captain (equivalent to a Colonel) from the Navy. All big accomplishments. Rangel was a Private. McCain graduated 895 out of 899. The only reason he got to fly jets is because his father was an Admiral. McCain was promoted to Captain because of his POW status. Quite a few of the former POWs were promoted at or near retirement to boost their retirement pay. As was Rangel. Rangel was a Staff Sargent (E-6) in the Army. E-6's teach officers what they are supposed to do. Only after his ordeal. He was a an E3, PFC, at the time. |
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