On 6/17/2012 9:54 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 17 Jun 2012 15:26:55 -0500, wrote:

Fuller’s team at USGS has been tracking reports of Asian tiger shrimp
since they first came to the attention of marine scientists and resource
managers in 1988, when nearly 300 of them were collected over three
months off the coasts of South Carolina, Georgia and Florida.
Scientists tracked the cause back to an isolated incident that
accidentally caused an estimated 2,000 animals to be released from an
aquaculture facility operating at that time in South Carolina (more
about this below).
It was not until 18 years later that reports of the non-native shrimp
resurfaced. In 2006, a commercial shrimp fisherman caught a single
adult male in Mississippi Sound near Dauphin Island, Alabama. Within
months, additional specimens were noted in North Carolina’s Pamlico
Sound, Louisiana’s Vermilion Bay and other parts of Florida and the
Carolinas. The species was later reported off the coasts of Georgia,
Mississippi and Texas in 2008, 2009 and 2011, respectively.
Scientists have not yet officially deemed the Asian tiger shrimp
established in USA waters, and no one is certain what triggered the
recent round of sightings. With so many alternative theories about
where these shrimp are coming from and only a handful of juveniles
reported, it is hard for scientists to conclude whether they are
breeding or simply being carried in by currents.

Your own posting casts immense doubt on your conclusion.

"...in 1988, when nearly 300 of them were collected over three
months off the coasts of South Carolina, Georgia and Florida.
Scientists tracked the cause back to an isolated incident that
accidentally caused an estimated 2,000 animals to be released from an
aquaculture facility operating at that time in South Carolina"

Yet, "It was not until 18 years later that reports of the non-native
shrimp resurfaced." 18 YEARS!

"...no one is certain what triggered the recent round of sightings."

"With so many alternative theories about where these shrimp are coming
from and only a handful of juveniles reported, it is hard for
scientists to conclude whether they are breeding or simply being
carried in by currents."

This article leaves out (so far as I read) the most likely vehicle for
these shrimp to travel thousands of miles and that is in the bilge
water of freighters.

Let's wait for the scientists to make a less emotional call on what is
actually going on.



That's fine.
I have been following this for a while now, and for "Lil" to report that
it was Vietnamese or Asians trying to "make them a lot of make them a
lot of money, in the long run" was something I had not seen
stated in the many reports I have read.
If you have an interest in shrimp farming, this page has a lot of info
and you can sign up for a newsletter.
http://www.shrimpnews.com/
There may be some changes in the newsletter availability as the author
is retiring so it may change.
Mikek

On 6/18/2012 9:11 AM, amdx wrote:
On 6/17/2012 9:54 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 17 Jun 2012 15:26:55 -0500, wrote:

Fuller’s team at USGS has been tracking reports of Asian tiger shrimp
since they first came to the attention of marine scientists and resource
managers in 1988, when nearly 300 of them were collected over three
months off the coasts of South Carolina, Georgia and Florida.
Scientists tracked the cause back to an isolated incident that
accidentally caused an estimated 2,000 animals to be released from an
aquaculture facility operating at that time in South Carolina (more
about this below).
It was not until 18 years later that reports of the non-native shrimp
resurfaced. In 2006, a commercial shrimp fisherman caught a single
adult male in Mississippi Sound near Dauphin Island, Alabama. Within
months, additional specimens were noted in North Carolina’s Pamlico
Sound, Louisiana’s Vermilion Bay and other parts of Florida and the
Carolinas. The species was later reported off the coasts of Georgia,
Mississippi and Texas in 2008, 2009 and 2011, respectively.
Scientists have not yet officially deemed the Asian tiger shrimp
established in USA waters, and no one is certain what triggered the
recent round of sightings. With so many alternative theories about
where these shrimp are coming from and only a handful of juveniles
reported, it is hard for scientists to conclude whether they are
breeding or simply being carried in by currents.

Your own posting casts immense doubt on your conclusion.

"...in 1988, when nearly 300 of them were collected over three
months off the coasts of South Carolina, Georgia and Florida.
Scientists tracked the cause back to an isolated incident that
accidentally caused an estimated 2,000 animals to be released from an
aquaculture facility operating at that time in South Carolina"

Yet, "It was not until 18 years later that reports of the non-native
shrimp resurfaced." 18 YEARS!

"...no one is certain what triggered the recent round of sightings."

"With so many alternative theories about where these shrimp are coming
from and only a handful of juveniles reported, it is hard for
scientists to conclude whether they are breeding or simply being
carried in by currents."

This article leaves out (so far as I read) the most likely vehicle for
these shrimp to travel thousands of miles and that is in the bilge
water of freighters.

Let's wait for the scientists to make a less emotional call on what is
actually going on.



That's fine.
I have been following this for a while now, and for "Lil" to report that
it was Vietnamese or Asians trying to "make them a lot of make them a
lot of money, in the long run" was something I had not seen
stated in the many reports I have read.
If you have an interest in shrimp farming, this page has a lot of info
and you can sign up for a newsletter.
http://www.shrimpnews.com/
There may be some changes in the newsletter availability as the author
is retiring so it may change.
Mikek



I don't remember the source or anything. It was quite a while ago.
Doesn't matter now. they're here. What does matter is that there are
still people importing exotics and releasing them like the snakes, in
Florida, or Iguansa, or monkeys and fire ants and so on.
The point is that no one cares about anything but their own little
interest and it is destroying our environment. The accidental release of
2,000 shrimp should not have happened. They should not have been where
the storms etc could have let them out. The Asian Carp is another
accidental release. They should have never been brought into the Country.