On Sat, 30 Jun 2012 14:24:24 -0500, amdx wrote:

I can't claim to speak for everyone but I think there are many who do
not view health care as a proper role for the federal government. I
also think there are many who view most of the federal bureauacracy as
being incompetent, self serving and self perpetuating. Who would
want such an organization to be responsible for their health care?


My name is Oscar and I approve this message

Then both of you fools should give up your Medicare.
Who the hell do you think you're fooling?
Amazing how folks can flap their lips thinking nobody can recognize
gibberish.

If they weren't forced to pay into it for 45 years that would be easy.
Mikek

===

Exactly right. After you've spent a lifetime contributing hundreds
of thousands, it's not really a handout.

"North Star" wrote in message
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On Jun 30, 1:24 pm, "Califbill" wrote:
"iBoaterer" wrote in message

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In article ,
says...

On Thu, 28 Jun 2012 20:28:11 -0400, BAR wrote:

If enough people opt out and simply pay the 1% tax, how can this
system possibly work?

What am I missing?

The solution to the money problem is rationing. Welcome to the queue.

===

That's how it is in Canada - 2 and 3 month waits to treat conditions
that are not considered life threatening, things like dislocated
shoulders for example.

Those are the extremes, not the norm. I was in Canada a few years back,
camping in Algonquin and my friend split his toe open. Went to a local
hospital and was in and out in 30 min.
-------------------------------------------
And he probably whipped out his credit card! A lot of years ago, as we
were
returning from a ski trip to Whistler, young 20 something is getting
aboard
the airplane with a broken bone. Do not remember if leg or arm. She did
not have the money to pay the Canadian hospital to have it set. So no
service. If we did that our costs would be greatly lowered and there
would
be a huge outcry about our heartlessness. I am just home from a trip to
the
hospital for clumsiness. Fell off the roof fixing the solar. Ladder
slipped. They did not ask for any insurance info before the trauma team
started working on me. In ICU The next bed had a welfare patient and the
other side had a non English speaking man. Don't know if he had
insurance.
So we treat everybody that shows up, No difference in care. As to making
healthcare affordable. How? Did not increase the number of doctors or
beds. My complaint on Roberts ruling is he sidestepped the issues. Just
saying the act is a tax. Geese?

"whipped out his credit card"??
You must be talking about the early 60s.
In this province the wait for things like knee and hip replacement can
be slow... But normal health issues usually get same day service
depending on the severity the problem.

-----------------------
No it was at least the 1980's. And the wait was not because of rationing,
was because the person was not a Canadian citizen and could not pay for the
cost of the broken bone. I had to visit the hospital in Sorrento, Italy in
about 2000. Cracked a tooth and tooth ache. They have a doctors office at
the hospital (PRONTO SOCCORSO or spelling something like that) where anybody
could go no charge. If you needed more than they could do, and you were not
a member of one of the European Health Care groups you had to pay. We fix
you up here, no matter your citizenship or legality. They will try to get
the money from you later, but you are fixed first. No assets, then the rest
of us with insurance and taxes pay for your care. I think San Diego figures
$155 million a year for medical care for illegals. A lot of money the
taxpayers have to pay. How do you handle illegal immigrants in Canada?

On Jun 30, 9:27*pm, "Califbill" wrote:
"North Star" *wrote in message

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On Jun 30, 1:24 pm, "Califbill" wrote:









"iBoaterer" *wrote in message

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In article ,
says...

On Thu, 28 Jun 2012 20:28:11 -0400, BAR wrote:

If enough people opt out and simply pay the 1% tax, *how can this
system possibly work?

What am I missing?

The solution to the money problem is rationing. Welcome to the queue..

===

That's how it is in Canada - 2 and 3 month waits to treat conditions
that are not considered life threatening, things like dislocated
shoulders for example.

Those are the extremes, not the norm. I was in Canada a few years back,
camping in Algonquin and my friend split his toe open. Went to a local
hospital and was in and out in 30 min.
-------------------------------------------
And he probably whipped out his credit card! *A lot of years ago, as we
were
returning from a ski trip to Whistler, young 20 something is getting
aboard
the airplane with a broken bone. *Do not remember if leg or arm. *She did
not have the money to pay the Canadian hospital to have it set. *So no
service. *If we did that our costs would be greatly lowered and there
would
be a huge outcry about our heartlessness. *I am just home from a trip to
the
hospital for clumsiness. *Fell off the roof fixing the solar. *Ladder
slipped. *They did not ask for any insurance info before the trauma team
started working on me. *In ICU The next bed had a welfare patient and the
other side had a non English speaking man. *Don't know if he had
insurance.
So we treat everybody that shows up, No difference in care. *As to making
healthcare affordable. *How? *Did not increase the number of doctors or
beds. *My complaint on Roberts ruling is he sidestepped the issues. *Just
saying the act is a tax. *Geese?

"whipped out his credit card"??
You must be talking about the early 60s.
In this province the wait for things like knee and hip replacement can
be slow... But normal health issues usually get same day service
depending on the severity the problem.

-----------------------
No it was at least the 1980's. *And the wait was not because of rationing,
was because the person was not a Canadian citizen and could not pay for the
cost of the broken bone. *I had to visit the hospital in Sorrento, Italy in
about 2000. *Cracked a tooth and tooth ache. *They have a doctors office at
the hospital (PRONTO SOCCORSO or spelling something like that) where anybody
could go no charge. *If you needed more than they could do, and you were not
a member of one of the European Health Care groups you had to pay. *We fix
you up here, no matter your citizenship or legality. *They will try to get
the money from you later, but you are fixed first. *No assets, then the rest
of us with insurance and taxes pay for your care. *I think San Diego figures
$155 million a year for medical care for illegals. *A lot of money the
taxpayers have to pay. *How do you handle illegal immigrants in Canada?

Put them up in accommodation, provide a generous living allowance and
pay for the most expensive lawyer available to represent them. Don't
tell Snotty!

On 6/30/2012 8:50 PM, North Star wrote:
On Jun 30, 9:27 pm, "Califbill" wrote:
"North Star" wrote in message

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On Jun 30, 1:24 pm, "Califbill" wrote:









"iBoaterer" wrote in message

...

In article ,
says...

On Thu, 28 Jun 2012 20:28:11 -0400, BAR wrote:

If enough people opt out and simply pay the 1% tax, how can this
system possibly work?

What am I missing?

The solution to the money problem is rationing. Welcome to the queue.

===

That's how it is in Canada - 2 and 3 month waits to treat conditions
that are not considered life threatening, things like dislocated
shoulders for example.

Those are the extremes, not the norm. I was in Canada a few years back,
camping in Algonquin and my friend split his toe open. Went to a local
hospital and was in and out in 30 min.
-------------------------------------------
And he probably whipped out his credit card! A lot of years ago, as we
were
returning from a ski trip to Whistler, young 20 something is getting
aboard
the airplane with a broken bone. Do not remember if leg or arm. She did
not have the money to pay the Canadian hospital to have it set. So no
service. If we did that our costs would be greatly lowered and there
would
be a huge outcry about our heartlessness. I am just home from a trip to
the
hospital for clumsiness. Fell off the roof fixing the solar. Ladder
slipped. They did not ask for any insurance info before the trauma team
started working on me. In ICU The next bed had a welfare patient and the
other side had a non English speaking man. Don't know if he had
insurance.
So we treat everybody that shows up, No difference in care. As to making
healthcare affordable. How? Did not increase the number of doctors or
beds. My complaint on Roberts ruling is he sidestepped the issues. Just
saying the act is a tax. Geese?

"whipped out his credit card"??
You must be talking about the early 60s.
In this province the wait for things like knee and hip replacement can
be slow... But normal health issues usually get same day service
depending on the severity the problem.

-----------------------
No it was at least the 1980's. And the wait was not because of rationing,
was because the person was not a Canadian citizen and could not pay for the
cost of the broken bone. I had to visit the hospital in Sorrento, Italy in
about 2000. Cracked a tooth and tooth ache. They have a doctors office at
the hospital (PRONTO SOCCORSO or spelling something like that) where anybody
could go no charge. If you needed more than they could do, and you were not
a member of one of the European Health Care groups you had to pay. We fix
you up here, no matter your citizenship or legality. They will try to get
the money from you later, but you are fixed first. No assets, then the rest
of us with insurance and taxes pay for your care. I think San Diego figures
$155 million a year for medical care for illegals. A lot of money the
taxpayers have to pay. How do you handle illegal immigrants in Canada?

Put them up in accommodation, provide a generous living allowance and
pay for the most expensive lawyer available to represent them. Don't
tell Snotty!


Don, I don't know what you are thinking you are so superior for. You
pushed a broom all your life and sat on a bar stool after.. Then you
shipped your mom off to a home and you have been talking about spending
her money ever since... Now go get drunk and beat your fat cow, she's
all you have left, right???

On Jun 30, 10:06*pm, JustWait wrote:
On 6/30/2012 8:50 PM, North Star wrote:









On Jun 30, 9:27 pm, "Califbill" wrote:
"North Star" *wrote in message

....

On Jun 30, 1:24 pm, "Califbill" wrote:

"iBoaterer" *wrote in message

...

In article ,
says...

On Thu, 28 Jun 2012 20:28:11 -0400, BAR wrote:

If enough people opt out and simply pay the 1% tax, *how can this
system possibly work?

What am I missing?

The solution to the money problem is rationing. Welcome to the queue.

===

That's how it is in Canada - 2 and 3 month waits to treat conditions
that are not considered life threatening, things like dislocated
shoulders for example.

Those are the extremes, not the norm. I was in Canada a few years back,
camping in Algonquin and my friend split his toe open. Went to a local
hospital and was in and out in 30 min.
-------------------------------------------
And he probably whipped out his credit card! *A lot of years ago, as we
were
returning from a ski trip to Whistler, young 20 something is getting
aboard
the airplane with a broken bone. *Do not remember if leg or arm. *She did
not have the money to pay the Canadian hospital to have it set. *So no
service. *If we did that our costs would be greatly lowered and there
would
be a huge outcry about our heartlessness. *I am just home from a trip to
the
hospital for clumsiness. *Fell off the roof fixing the solar. *Ladder
slipped. *They did not ask for any insurance info before the trauma team
started working on me. *In ICU The next bed had a welfare patient and the
other side had a non English speaking man. *Don't know if he had
insurance.
So we treat everybody that shows up, No difference in care. *As to making
healthcare affordable. *How? *Did not increase the number of doctors or
beds. *My complaint on Roberts ruling is he sidestepped the issues. *Just
saying the act is a tax. *Geese?

"whipped out his credit card"??
You must be talking about the early 60s.
In this province the wait for things like knee and hip replacement can
be slow... But normal health issues usually get same day service
depending on the severity the problem.

-----------------------
No it was at least the 1980's. *And the wait was not because of rationing,
was because the person was not a Canadian citizen and could not pay for the
cost of the broken bone. *I had to visit the hospital in Sorrento, Italy in
about 2000. *Cracked a tooth and tooth ache. *They have a doctors office at
the hospital (PRONTO SOCCORSO or spelling something like that) where anybody
could go no charge. *If you needed more than they could do, and you were not
a member of one of the European Health Care groups you had to pay. *We fix
you up here, no matter your citizenship or legality. *They will try to get
the money from you later, but you are fixed first. *No assets, then the rest
of us with insurance and taxes pay for your care. *I think San Diego figures
$155 million a year for medical care for illegals. *A lot of money the
taxpayers have to pay. *How do you handle illegal immigrants in Canada?

Put them up in accommodation, provide a generous living allowance and
pay for the most expensive lawyer available to represent them. Don't
tell Snotty!

Don, I don't know what you are thinking you are so superior for. You
pushed a broom all your life and sat on a bar stool after.. Then you
shipped your mom off to a home and you have been talking about spending
her money ever since... Now go get drunk and beat your fat cow, she's
all you have left, right???

What would Terri or Inky's wife think of your posts in here?
Not much, I trust.

On 6/30/2012 10:47 PM, North Star wrote:
On Jun 30, 10:06 pm, JustWait wrote:
On 6/30/2012 8:50 PM, North Star wrote:









On Jun 30, 9:27 pm, "Califbill" wrote:
"North Star" wrote in message

...

On Jun 30, 1:24 pm, "Califbill" wrote:

"iBoaterer" wrote in message

...

In article ,
says...

On Thu, 28 Jun 2012 20:28:11 -0400, BAR wrote:

If enough people opt out and simply pay the 1% tax, how can this
system possibly work?

What am I missing?

The solution to the money problem is rationing. Welcome to the queue.

===

That's how it is in Canada - 2 and 3 month waits to treat conditions
that are not considered life threatening, things like dislocated
shoulders for example.

Those are the extremes, not the norm. I was in Canada a few years back,
camping in Algonquin and my friend split his toe open. Went to a local
hospital and was in and out in 30 min.
-------------------------------------------
And he probably whipped out his credit card! A lot of years ago, as we
were
returning from a ski trip to Whistler, young 20 something is getting
aboard
the airplane with a broken bone. Do not remember if leg or arm. She did
not have the money to pay the Canadian hospital to have it set. So no
service. If we did that our costs would be greatly lowered and there
would
be a huge outcry about our heartlessness. I am just home from a trip to
the
hospital for clumsiness. Fell off the roof fixing the solar. Ladder
slipped. They did not ask for any insurance info before the trauma team
started working on me. In ICU The next bed had a welfare patient and the
other side had a non English speaking man. Don't know if he had
insurance.
So we treat everybody that shows up, No difference in care. As to making
healthcare affordable. How? Did not increase the number of doctors or
beds. My complaint on Roberts ruling is he sidestepped the issues. Just
saying the act is a tax. Geese?

"whipped out his credit card"??
You must be talking about the early 60s.
In this province the wait for things like knee and hip replacement can
be slow... But normal health issues usually get same day service
depending on the severity the problem.

-----------------------
No it was at least the 1980's. And the wait was not because of rationing,
was because the person was not a Canadian citizen and could not pay for the
cost of the broken bone. I had to visit the hospital in Sorrento, Italy in
about 2000. Cracked a tooth and tooth ache. They have a doctors office at
the hospital (PRONTO SOCCORSO or spelling something like that) where anybody
could go no charge. If you needed more than they could do, and you were not
a member of one of the European Health Care groups you had to pay. We fix
you up here, no matter your citizenship or legality. They will try to get
the money from you later, but you are fixed first. No assets, then the rest
of us with insurance and taxes pay for your care. I think San Diego figures
$155 million a year for medical care for illegals. A lot of money the
taxpayers have to pay. How do you handle illegal immigrants in Canada?

Put them up in accommodation, provide a generous living allowance and
pay for the most expensive lawyer available to represent them. Don't
tell Snotty!

Don, I don't know what you are thinking you are so superior for. You
pushed a broom all your life and sat on a bar stool after.. Then you
shipped your mom off to a home and you have been talking about spending
her money ever since... Now go get drunk and beat your fat cow, she's
all you have left, right???

What would Terri or Inky's wife think of your posts in here?
Not much, I trust.


I dunno' how about you and your buddy here all day long bullying and
slandering, then crying like the punk bitch you are when I say something
back? Do you think your family would think you were tough? I think they
would think you are a punk.

In article ,
says...

"North Star" wrote in message
...

On Jun 30, 1:24 pm, "Califbill" wrote:
"iBoaterer" wrote in message

...

In article ,
says...

On Thu, 28 Jun 2012 20:28:11 -0400, BAR wrote:

If enough people opt out and simply pay the 1% tax, how can this
system possibly work?

What am I missing?

The solution to the money problem is rationing. Welcome to the queue.

===

That's how it is in Canada - 2 and 3 month waits to treat conditions
that are not considered life threatening, things like dislocated
shoulders for example.

Those are the extremes, not the norm. I was in Canada a few years back,
camping in Algonquin and my friend split his toe open. Went to a local
hospital and was in and out in 30 min.
-------------------------------------------
And he probably whipped out his credit card! A lot of years ago, as we
were
returning from a ski trip to Whistler, young 20 something is getting
aboard
the airplane with a broken bone. Do not remember if leg or arm. She did
not have the money to pay the Canadian hospital to have it set. So no
service. If we did that our costs would be greatly lowered and there
would
be a huge outcry about our heartlessness. I am just home from a trip to
the
hospital for clumsiness. Fell off the roof fixing the solar. Ladder
slipped. They did not ask for any insurance info before the trauma team
started working on me. In ICU The next bed had a welfare patient and the
other side had a non English speaking man. Don't know if he had
insurance.
So we treat everybody that shows up, No difference in care. As to making
healthcare affordable. How? Did not increase the number of doctors or
beds. My complaint on Roberts ruling is he sidestepped the issues. Just
saying the act is a tax. Geese?

"whipped out his credit card"??
You must be talking about the early 60s.
In this province the wait for things like knee and hip replacement can
be slow... But normal health issues usually get same day service
depending on the severity the problem.

-----------------------
No it was at least the 1980's. And the wait was not because of rationing,
was because the person was not a Canadian citizen and could not pay for the
cost of the broken bone. I had to visit the hospital in Sorrento, Italy in
about 2000. Cracked a tooth and tooth ache. They have a doctors office at
the hospital (PRONTO SOCCORSO or spelling something like that) where anybody
could go no charge. If you needed more than they could do, and you were not
a member of one of the European Health Care groups you had to pay. We fix
you up here, no matter your citizenship or legality. They will try to get
the money from you later, but you are fixed first. No assets, then the rest
of us with insurance and taxes pay for your care. I think San Diego figures
$155 million a year for medical care for illegals. A lot of money the
taxpayers have to pay. How do you handle illegal immigrants in Canada?

Nope. Walked into the hospital, they asked a few questions, took him
back, stitched him up, out within a half hour total, no money exchanged.

In article , says...

On 6/30/2012 8:50 PM, North Star wrote:
On Jun 30, 9:27 pm, "Califbill" wrote:
"North Star" wrote in message

...

On Jun 30, 1:24 pm, "Califbill" wrote:









"iBoaterer" wrote in message

...

In article ,
says...

On Thu, 28 Jun 2012 20:28:11 -0400, BAR wrote:

If enough people opt out and simply pay the 1% tax, how can this
system possibly work?

What am I missing?

The solution to the money problem is rationing. Welcome to the queue.

===

That's how it is in Canada - 2 and 3 month waits to treat conditions
that are not considered life threatening, things like dislocated
shoulders for example.

Those are the extremes, not the norm. I was in Canada a few years back,
camping in Algonquin and my friend split his toe open. Went to a local
hospital and was in and out in 30 min.
-------------------------------------------
And he probably whipped out his credit card! A lot of years ago, as we
were
returning from a ski trip to Whistler, young 20 something is getting
aboard
the airplane with a broken bone. Do not remember if leg or arm. She did
not have the money to pay the Canadian hospital to have it set. So no
service. If we did that our costs would be greatly lowered and there
would
be a huge outcry about our heartlessness. I am just home from a trip to
the
hospital for clumsiness. Fell off the roof fixing the solar. Ladder
slipped. They did not ask for any insurance info before the trauma team
started working on me. In ICU The next bed had a welfare patient and the
other side had a non English speaking man. Don't know if he had
insurance.
So we treat everybody that shows up, No difference in care. As to making
healthcare affordable. How? Did not increase the number of doctors or
beds. My complaint on Roberts ruling is he sidestepped the issues. Just
saying the act is a tax. Geese?

"whipped out his credit card"??
You must be talking about the early 60s.
In this province the wait for things like knee and hip replacement can
be slow... But normal health issues usually get same day service
depending on the severity the problem.

-----------------------
No it was at least the 1980's. And the wait was not because of rationing,
was because the person was not a Canadian citizen and could not pay for the
cost of the broken bone. I had to visit the hospital in Sorrento, Italy in
about 2000. Cracked a tooth and tooth ache. They have a doctors office at
the hospital (PRONTO SOCCORSO or spelling something like that) where anybody
could go no charge. If you needed more than they could do, and you were not
a member of one of the European Health Care groups you had to pay. We fix
you up here, no matter your citizenship or legality. They will try to get
the money from you later, but you are fixed first. No assets, then the rest
of us with insurance and taxes pay for your care. I think San Diego figures
$155 million a year for medical care for illegals. A lot of money the
taxpayers have to pay. How do you handle illegal immigrants in Canada?

Put them up in accommodation, provide a generous living allowance and
pay for the most expensive lawyer available to represent them. Don't
tell Snotty!


Don, I don't know what you are thinking you are so superior for. You
pushed a broom all your life and sat on a bar stool after.. Then you
shipped your mom off to a home and you have been talking about spending
her money ever since... Now go get drunk and beat your fat cow, she's
all you have left, right???

Once again showing how low you can go.

In article , says...

On 6/30/2012 10:47 PM, North Star wrote:
On Jun 30, 10:06 pm, JustWait wrote:
On 6/30/2012 8:50 PM, North Star wrote:









On Jun 30, 9:27 pm, "Califbill" wrote:
"North Star" wrote in message

...

On Jun 30, 1:24 pm, "Califbill" wrote:

"iBoaterer" wrote in message

...

In article ,
says...

On Thu, 28 Jun 2012 20:28:11 -0400, BAR wrote:

If enough people opt out and simply pay the 1% tax, how can this
system possibly work?

What am I missing?

The solution to the money problem is rationing. Welcome to the queue.

===

That's how it is in Canada - 2 and 3 month waits to treat conditions
that are not considered life threatening, things like dislocated
shoulders for example.

Those are the extremes, not the norm. I was in Canada a few years back,
camping in Algonquin and my friend split his toe open. Went to a local
hospital and was in and out in 30 min.
-------------------------------------------
And he probably whipped out his credit card! A lot of years ago, as we
were
returning from a ski trip to Whistler, young 20 something is getting
aboard
the airplane with a broken bone. Do not remember if leg or arm. She did
not have the money to pay the Canadian hospital to have it set. So no
service. If we did that our costs would be greatly lowered and there
would
be a huge outcry about our heartlessness. I am just home from a trip to
the
hospital for clumsiness. Fell off the roof fixing the solar. Ladder
slipped. They did not ask for any insurance info before the trauma team
started working on me. In ICU The next bed had a welfare patient and the
other side had a non English speaking man. Don't know if he had
insurance.
So we treat everybody that shows up, No difference in care. As to making
healthcare affordable. How? Did not increase the number of doctors or
beds. My complaint on Roberts ruling is he sidestepped the issues. Just
saying the act is a tax. Geese?

"whipped out his credit card"??
You must be talking about the early 60s.
In this province the wait for things like knee and hip replacement can
be slow... But normal health issues usually get same day service
depending on the severity the problem.

-----------------------
No it was at least the 1980's. And the wait was not because of rationing,
was because the person was not a Canadian citizen and could not pay for the
cost of the broken bone. I had to visit the hospital in Sorrento, Italy in
about 2000. Cracked a tooth and tooth ache. They have a doctors office at
the hospital (PRONTO SOCCORSO or spelling something like that) where anybody
could go no charge. If you needed more than they could do, and you were not
a member of one of the European Health Care groups you had to pay. We fix
you up here, no matter your citizenship or legality. They will try to get
the money from you later, but you are fixed first. No assets, then the rest
of us with insurance and taxes pay for your care. I think San Diego figures
$155 million a year for medical care for illegals. A lot of money the
taxpayers have to pay. How do you handle illegal immigrants in Canada?

Put them up in accommodation, provide a generous living allowance and
pay for the most expensive lawyer available to represent them. Don't
tell Snotty!

Don, I don't know what you are thinking you are so superior for. You
pushed a broom all your life and sat on a bar stool after.. Then you
shipped your mom off to a home and you have been talking about spending
her money ever since... Now go get drunk and beat your fat cow, she's
all you have left, right???

What would Terri or Inky's wife think of your posts in here?
Not much, I trust.


I dunno' how about you and your buddy here all day long bullying and
slandering, then crying like the punk bitch you are when I say something
back? Do you think your family would think you were tough? I think they
would think you are a punk.

Saying disparaging things about someone's family members is about as low
as a human can get.

On 7/1/2012 10:16 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , says...

On 6/30/2012 8:50 PM, North Star wrote:
On Jun 30, 9:27 pm, "Califbill" wrote:
"North Star" wrote in message

...

On Jun 30, 1:24 pm, "Califbill" wrote:









"iBoaterer" wrote in message

...

In article ,
says...

On Thu, 28 Jun 2012 20:28:11 -0400, BAR wrote:

If enough people opt out and simply pay the 1% tax, how can this
system possibly work?

What am I missing?

The solution to the money problem is rationing. Welcome to the queue.

===

That's how it is in Canada - 2 and 3 month waits to treat conditions
that are not considered life threatening, things like dislocated
shoulders for example.

Those are the extremes, not the norm. I was in Canada a few years back,
camping in Algonquin and my friend split his toe open. Went to a local
hospital and was in and out in 30 min.
-------------------------------------------
And he probably whipped out his credit card! A lot of years ago, as we
were
returning from a ski trip to Whistler, young 20 something is getting
aboard
the airplane with a broken bone. Do not remember if leg or arm. She did
not have the money to pay the Canadian hospital to have it set. So no
service. If we did that our costs would be greatly lowered and there
would
be a huge outcry about our heartlessness. I am just home from a trip to
the
hospital for clumsiness. Fell off the roof fixing the solar. Ladder
slipped. They did not ask for any insurance info before the trauma team
started working on me. In ICU The next bed had a welfare patient and the
other side had a non English speaking man. Don't know if he had
insurance.
So we treat everybody that shows up, No difference in care. As to making
healthcare affordable. How? Did not increase the number of doctors or
beds. My complaint on Roberts ruling is he sidestepped the issues. Just
saying the act is a tax. Geese?

"whipped out his credit card"??
You must be talking about the early 60s.
In this province the wait for things like knee and hip replacement can
be slow... But normal health issues usually get same day service
depending on the severity the problem.

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No it was at least the 1980's. And the wait was not because of rationing,
was because the person was not a Canadian citizen and could not pay for the
cost of the broken bone. I had to visit the hospital in Sorrento, Italy in
about 2000. Cracked a tooth and tooth ache. They have a doctors office at
the hospital (PRONTO SOCCORSO or spelling something like that) where anybody
could go no charge. If you needed more than they could do, and you were not
a member of one of the European Health Care groups you had to pay. We fix
you up here, no matter your citizenship or legality. They will try to get
the money from you later, but you are fixed first. No assets, then the rest
of us with insurance and taxes pay for your care. I think San Diego figures
$155 million a year for medical care for illegals. A lot of money the
taxpayers have to pay. How do you handle illegal immigrants in Canada?

Put them up in accommodation, provide a generous living allowance and
pay for the most expensive lawyer available to represent them. Don't
tell Snotty!


Don, I don't know what you are thinking you are so superior for. You
pushed a broom all your life and sat on a bar stool after.. Then you
shipped your mom off to a home and you have been talking about spending
her money ever since... Now go get drunk and beat your fat cow, she's
all you have left, right???

Once again showing how low you can go.


Well, then you should tell me the rules... You and your two buddies
bring me up no less than twenty times a day here, and I say something
back, you cry... Sorry I don't spend my whole day here like you three
(get lives, really) but I have to get it all out at once. So, what do
you think when you spread the same lies about myself and my family
situation that harry and don make up? Guess you are the pot, I am the
kettle...