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On Thu, 28 Jun 2012 20:28:11 -0400, BAR
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If enough people opt out and simply pay the 1% tax, how
can this
system possibly work?

What am I missing?

The solution to the money problem is rationing. Welcome
to the queue.

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That's how it is in Canada - 2 and 3 month waits to treat
conditions
that are not considered life threatening, things like
dislocated
shoulders for example.

Those are the extremes, not the norm. I was in Canada a few
years back,
camping in Algonquin and my friend split his toe open. Went
to a local
hospital and was in and out in 30 min.
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And he probably whipped out his credit card! A lot of
years ago, as we
were
returning from a ski trip to Whistler, young 20 something
is getting
aboard
the airplane with a broken bone. Do not remember if leg or
arm. She did
not have the money to pay the Canadian hospital to have it
set. So no
service. If we did that our costs would be greatly lowered
and there
would
be a huge outcry about our heartlessness. I am just home
from a trip to
the
hospital for clumsiness. Fell off the roof fixing the
solar. Ladder
slipped. They did not ask for any insurance info before
the trauma team
started working on me. In ICU The next bed had a welfare
patient and the
other side had a non English speaking man. Don't know if
he had
insurance.
So we treat everybody that shows up, No difference in
care. As to making
healthcare affordable. How? Did not increase the number
of doctors or
beds. My complaint on Roberts ruling is he sidestepped the
issues. Just
saying the act is a tax. Geese?

"whipped out his credit card"??
You must be talking about the early 60s.
In this province the wait for things like knee and hip
replacement can
be slow... But normal health issues usually get same day
service
depending on the severity the problem.

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No it was at least the 1980's. And the wait was not because
of rationing,
was because the person was not a Canadian citizen and could
not pay for the
cost of the broken bone. I had to visit the hospital in
Sorrento, Italy in
about 2000. Cracked a tooth and tooth ache. They have a
doctors office at
the hospital (PRONTO SOCCORSO or spelling something like
that) where anybody
could go no charge. If you needed more than they could do,
and you were not
a member of one of the European Health Care groups you had
to pay. We fix
you up here, no matter your citizenship or legality. They
will try to get
the money from you later, but you are fixed first. No
assets, then the rest
of us with insurance and taxes pay for your care. I think
San Diego figures
$155 million a year for medical care for illegals. A lot of
money the
taxpayers have to pay. How do you handle illegal immigrants
in Canada?

Put them up in accommodation, provide a generous living
allowance and
pay for the most expensive lawyer available to represent
them. Don't
tell Snotty!

Don, I don't know what you are thinking you are so superior
for. You
pushed a broom all your life and sat on a bar stool after..
Then you
shipped your mom off to a home and you have been talking about
spending
her money ever since... Now go get drunk and beat your fat
cow, she's
all you have left, right???

Once again showing how low you can go.

Well, then you should tell me the rules... You and your two buddies
bring me up no less than twenty times a day here, and I say
something
back, you cry... Sorry I don't spend my whole day here like you
three
(get lives, really) but I have to get it all out at once. So,
what do
you think when you spread the same lies about myself and my family
situation that harry and don make up? Guess you are the pot, I
am the
kettle...

What lies do I spread about you and your family?
Do you, or did you, have numerous judgements against you for
nonpayment of various outstanding bills...such as hospital,
municipal
taxes, credit cards etc
Have you had a real job to help support your family in the past few
years?
I simply report the truth as I understand it.

If you are getting your truth from Harry, you are dumber than anyone
could possibly imagine.
Tell us again who gave you this information about Scott, which you
freely repeated here.

The great state of Connecticut.

I hesitate to call you a liar but I am compelled to unless you can
demonstrate explicitly how you came by any of that information besides
taxes. Municipalities eagerly share tax information, even yours.

Keep on hesitating!
More progressive areas than Florida will provide this
information.....maybe in the hope that the deadbeats will be ashamed
into paying up. Your question should be...was Snotty ashamed enough
to get a job and reduce these outstanding debts.

Note.....substitute ashamed with shamed


And you should be ashamed for putting your kid in a cage to get his
brain mushed in just so you could feel tough... how's his job at
McDonalds going? my kid just got signed to a team, she is getting paid
to ride.. snerk



When does your daughter leave for college, daddy-oh?