On 7/1/2012 7:16 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 7/1/12 6:46 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 7/1/2012 6:25 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 7/1/12 6:21 PM, JustWait wrote:


The truth as you and harry want to see it.... To use to intimidate
and
bully me and my family. You have no idea how we got to that point,
you
have no idea of the bills others in our second family incurred, or
how
hard we are working every day to get it right AND raise our kids...
But
you wouldn't care, you just need to make yourself feel better so you
take a couple out of context, uninformed facts and make up the
rest...
You are a scum bag just like harry and the plum, really, get a life,
and
while you are at it, get it right...

Is there a lot of money in managing a losing kiddie motorbike racing
team?

I don't know, never tried it. How about we ask you if there is money in
abusing your kids so badly they abandon you at age 18 so you cry here
for a ****ing decade?


Ahh, you think *I* posted that...it was one of your Harryclone buddies,
little ****, not me, and you and the rest of your moron gang of fools
picked up on it.





It was you harry krause... you cried here your kids left you and you
had no contact... don't lie, see, you are not as successful as you think...

On Thu, 28 Jun 2012 21:31:45 -0400, X ` Man
wrote:

The U.S. Constitution was incomplete and needed tweaking.

The US Constitution has a defined method of how it can be tweaked and
that is the amendment process. There have been 17 amendments to the US
Constitution in the past 220 odd years.

The problem with progressives is that they would rather have the US
Constitution modified by external decisions rather then through the
process.

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says...

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says...

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says...

On Thu, 28 Jun 2012 20:28:11 -0400, BAR wrote:

If enough people opt out and simply pay the 1% tax, how can this
system possibly work?

What am I missing?

The solution to the money problem is rationing. Welcome to the queue.

===

That's how it is in Canada - 2 and 3 month waits to treat conditions
that are not considered life threatening, things like dislocated
shoulders for example.

Those are the extremes, not the norm. I was in Canada a few years back,
camping in Algonquin and my friend split his toe open. Went to a local
hospital and was in and out in 30 min.

If they want to double the pct of GNP they spend on health care to what
the U.S. spends, they can cut the wait times.
As it is +80% of Canadians are happy with their system. Compare to the

Those Canadian can come to the USA and get health care if they want it
faster. When we have death panels and 2 to 3 month waits for basic care
the average US citizen will have nowhere to go.

U.S. They can vote it out and go all private if they want.
It's called Democracy. Same here.
Besides, Canada's system doesn't have a thing to do with the U.S.
Typical "conservative" red herring when somebody mentions Canada.

On 7/1/12 7:48 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 7/1/2012 7:16 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 7/1/12 6:46 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 7/1/2012 6:25 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 7/1/12 6:21 PM, JustWait wrote:


The truth as you and harry want to see it.... To use to intimidate
and
bully me and my family. You have no idea how we got to that point,
you
have no idea of the bills others in our second family incurred, or
how
hard we are working every day to get it right AND raise our kids...
But
you wouldn't care, you just need to make yourself feel better so you
take a couple out of context, uninformed facts and make up the
rest...
You are a scum bag just like harry and the plum, really, get a life,
and
while you are at it, get it right...

Is there a lot of money in managing a losing kiddie motorbike racing
team?

I don't know, never tried it. How about we ask you if there is money in
abusing your kids so badly they abandon you at age 18 so you cry here
for a ****ing decade?


Ahh, you think *I* posted that...it was one of your Harryclone buddies,
little ****, not me, and you and the rest of your moron gang of fools
picked up on it.





It was you harry krause... you cried here your kids left you and you
had no contact... don't lie, see, you are not as successful as you think...



That's just bull****, little turd.

On 7/1/2012 8:35 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 7/1/12 7:48 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 7/1/2012 7:16 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 7/1/12 6:46 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 7/1/2012 6:25 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 7/1/12 6:21 PM, JustWait wrote:


The truth as you and harry want to see it.... To use to intimidate
and
bully me and my family. You have no idea how we got to that point,
you
have no idea of the bills others in our second family incurred, or
how
hard we are working every day to get it right AND raise our kids...
But
you wouldn't care, you just need to make yourself feel better so
you
take a couple out of context, uninformed facts and make up the
rest...
You are a scum bag just like harry and the plum, really, get a
life,
and
while you are at it, get it right...

Is there a lot of money in managing a losing kiddie motorbike racing
team?

I don't know, never tried it. How about we ask you if there is money in
abusing your kids so badly they abandon you at age 18 so you cry here
for a ****ing decade?


Ahh, you think *I* posted that...it was one of your Harryclone buddies,
little ****, not me, and you and the rest of your moron gang of fools
picked up on it.





It was you harry krause... you cried here your kids left you and you
had no contact... don't lie, see, you are not as successful as you
think...



That's just bull****, little turd.


Sorry harry, you can't run from it... You can say what you want about
our health and money issues, we are working on them. You can't run from
your own words as your family fell apart right here in front of us all,
I guess harry krause, it's all about what value in life. Your idea of
success, sickens me...

On 7/1/12 9:06 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 7/1/2012 8:35 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 7/1/12 7:48 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 7/1/2012 7:16 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 7/1/12 6:46 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 7/1/2012 6:25 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 7/1/12 6:21 PM, JustWait wrote:


The truth as you and harry want to see it.... To use to intimidate
and
bully me and my family. You have no idea how we got to that point,
you
have no idea of the bills others in our second family incurred, or
how
hard we are working every day to get it right AND raise our
kids...
But
you wouldn't care, you just need to make yourself feel better so
you
take a couple out of context, uninformed facts and make up the
rest...
You are a scum bag just like harry and the plum, really, get a
life,
and
while you are at it, get it right...

Is there a lot of money in managing a losing kiddie motorbike racing
team?

I don't know, never tried it. How about we ask you if there is
money in
abusing your kids so badly they abandon you at age 18 so you cry here
for a ****ing decade?


Ahh, you think *I* posted that...it was one of your Harryclone buddies,
little ****, not me, and you and the rest of your moron gang of fools
picked up on it.





It was you harry krause... you cried here your kids left you and you
had no contact... don't lie, see, you are not as successful as you
think...



That's just bull****, little turd.


Sorry harry, you can't run from it... You can say what you want about
our health and money issues, we are working on them. You can't run from
your own words as your family fell apart right here in front of us all,
I guess harry krause, it's all about what value in life. Your idea of
success, sickens me...


You're a crazy, delusional little ****. I have no idea what your
"health" issues are, other than some afib problem you mentioned here
and, of course, your meager mental abilities. I don't know and I don't
care to know what other health issues you and your family face.

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On 7/1/2012 1:49 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
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On 7/1/2012 10:50 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
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On 7/1/2012 10:16 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
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On 6/30/2012 8:50 PM, North Star wrote:
On Jun 30, 9:27 pm, "Califbill" wrote:
"North Star" wrote in message

...

On Jun 30, 1:24 pm, "Califbill" wrote:









"iBoaterer" wrote in message

...

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says...

On Thu, 28 Jun 2012 20:28:11 -0400, BAR wrote:

If enough people opt out and simply pay the 1% tax, how can this
system possibly work?

What am I missing?

The solution to the money problem is rationing. Welcome to the queue.

===

That's how it is in Canada - 2 and 3 month waits to treat conditions
that are not considered life threatening, things like dislocated
shoulders for example.

Those are the extremes, not the norm. I was in Canada a few years back,
camping in Algonquin and my friend split his toe open. Went to a local
hospital and was in and out in 30 min.
-------------------------------------------
And he probably whipped out his credit card! A lot of years ago, as we
were
returning from a ski trip to Whistler, young 20 something is getting
aboard
the airplane with a broken bone. Do not remember if leg or arm. She did
not have the money to pay the Canadian hospital to have it set. So no
service. If we did that our costs would be greatly lowered and there
would
be a huge outcry about our heartlessness. I am just home from a trip to
the
hospital for clumsiness. Fell off the roof fixing the solar. Ladder
slipped. They did not ask for any insurance info before the trauma team
started working on me. In ICU The next bed had a welfare patient and the
other side had a non English speaking man. Don't know if he had
insurance.
So we treat everybody that shows up, No difference in care. As to making
healthcare affordable. How? Did not increase the number of doctors or
beds. My complaint on Roberts ruling is he sidestepped the issues. Just
saying the act is a tax. Geese?

"whipped out his credit card"??
You must be talking about the early 60s.
In this province the wait for things like knee and hip replacement can
be slow... But normal health issues usually get same day service
depending on the severity the problem.

-----------------------
No it was at least the 1980's. And the wait was not because of rationing,
was because the person was not a Canadian citizen and could not pay for the
cost of the broken bone. I had to visit the hospital in Sorrento, Italy in
about 2000. Cracked a tooth and tooth ache. They have a doctors office at
the hospital (PRONTO SOCCORSO or spelling something like that) where anybody
could go no charge. If you needed more than they could do, and you were not
a member of one of the European Health Care groups you had to pay. We fix
you up here, no matter your citizenship or legality. They will try to get
the money from you later, but you are fixed first. No assets, then the rest
of us with insurance and taxes pay for your care. I think San Diego figures
$155 million a year for medical care for illegals. A lot of money the
taxpayers have to pay. How do you handle illegal immigrants in Canada?

Put them up in accommodation, provide a generous living allowance and
pay for the most expensive lawyer available to represent them. Don't
tell Snotty!


Don, I don't know what you are thinking you are so superior for. You
pushed a broom all your life and sat on a bar stool after.. Then you
shipped your mom off to a home and you have been talking about spending
her money ever since... Now go get drunk and beat your fat cow, she's
all you have left, right???

Once again showing how low you can go.


Well, then you should tell me the rules... You and your two buddies
bring me up no less than twenty times a day here, and I say something
back, you cry... Sorry I don't spend my whole day here like you three
(get lives, really) but I have to get it all out at once. So, what do
you think when you spread the same lies about myself and my family
situation that harry and don make up? Guess you are the pot, I am the
kettle...

You should live by common sense rules. You are a low life and you know
it. Now, specifically what lies have *I* spread about you and your
family? Answer: NONE. Another of YOUR lies.


Calling me a low life from under your troll bridge, is probably worse.
Like my dad always said, nothing worse than a coward...

I would suppose you aren't man enough to apologize for your lie that I
lied about you and your family, right? And yes, someone who says
disparaging remarks about one's family members like you did IS a low
life. I'll bet your father, if he was a decent man, would have agreed.
And get this straight, I'm not the least bit afraid of you.


No, you are afraid of yourself. If I spent my days here trolling like a
coward, I wouldn't want anybody to know who I really was either....

Sure, "JustWait". Now, are you going to show me where I made any remarks
about your family, liar? Oh, and I KNEW you weren't man enough to
apologize for your lie.

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On 7/1/2012 6:00 PM, Oscar wrote:
On 7/1/2012 5:43 PM, JustWait wrote:
On 7/1/2012 12:16 PM, North Star wrote:
On Jul 1, 11:35 am, JustWait wrote:
On 7/1/2012 10:16 AM, iBoaterer wrote:










In article , says...

On 6/30/2012 8:50 PM, North Star wrote:
On Jun 30, 9:27 pm, "Califbill" wrote:
"North Star" wrote in message

...



On Jun 30, 1:24 pm, "Califbill" wrote:

"iBoaterer" wrote in message

...

In article ,
says...

On Thu, 28 Jun 2012 20:28:11 -0400, BAR wrote:

If enough people opt out and simply pay the 1% tax, how can
this
system possibly work?

What am I missing?

The solution to the money problem is rationing. Welcome to the
queue.

===

That's how it is in Canada - 2 and 3 month waits to treat
conditions
that are not considered life threatening, things like dislocated
shoulders for example.

Those are the extremes, not the norm. I was in Canada a few
years back,
camping in Algonquin and my friend split his toe open. Went to a
local
hospital and was in and out in 30 min.
-------------------------------------------
And he probably whipped out his credit card! A lot of years
ago, as we
were
returning from a ski trip to Whistler, young 20 something is
getting
aboard
the airplane with a broken bone. Do not remember if leg or
arm. She did
not have the money to pay the Canadian hospital to have it set.
So no
service. If we did that our costs would be greatly lowered and
there
would
be a huge outcry about our heartlessness. I am just home from a
trip to
the
hospital for clumsiness. Fell off the roof fixing the solar.
Ladder
slipped. They did not ask for any insurance info before the
trauma team
started working on me. In ICU The next bed had a welfare
patient and the
other side had a non English speaking man. Don't know if he had
insurance.
So we treat everybody that shows up, No difference in care. As
to making
healthcare affordable. How? Did not increase the number of
doctors or
beds. My complaint on Roberts ruling is he sidestepped the
issues. Just
saying the act is a tax. Geese?

"whipped out his credit card"??
You must be talking about the early 60s.
In this province the wait for things like knee and hip
replacement can
be slow... But normal health issues usually get same day service
depending on the severity the problem.

-----------------------
No it was at least the 1980's. And the wait was not because of
rationing,
was because the person was not a Canadian citizen and could not
pay for the
cost of the broken bone. I had to visit the hospital in
Sorrento, Italy in
about 2000. Cracked a tooth and tooth ache. They have a doctors
office at
the hospital (PRONTO SOCCORSO or spelling something like that)
where anybody
could go no charge. If you needed more than they could do, and
you were not
a member of one of the European Health Care groups you had to
pay. We fix
you up here, no matter your citizenship or legality. They will
try to get
the money from you later, but you are fixed first. No assets,
then the rest
of us with insurance and taxes pay for your care. I think San
Diego figures
$155 million a year for medical care for illegals. A lot of
money the
taxpayers have to pay. How do you handle illegal immigrants in
Canada?

Put them up in accommodation, provide a generous living allowance
and
pay for the most expensive lawyer available to represent them. Don't
tell Snotty!

Don, I don't know what you are thinking you are so superior for. You
pushed a broom all your life and sat on a bar stool after.. Then you
shipped your mom off to a home and you have been talking about
spending
her money ever since... Now go get drunk and beat your fat cow, she's
all you have left, right???

Once again showing how low you can go.

Well, then you should tell me the rules... You and your two buddies
bring me up no less than twenty times a day here, and I say something
back, you cry... Sorry I don't spend my whole day here like you three
(get lives, really) but I have to get it all out at once. So, what do
you think when you spread the same lies about myself and my family
situation that harry and don make up? Guess you are the pot, I am the
kettle...

What lies do I spread about you and your family?
Do you, or did you, have numerous judgements against you for
nonpayment of various outstanding bills...such as hospital, municipal
taxes, credit cards etc
Have you had a real job to help support your family in the past few
years?
I simply report the truth as I understand it.


The truth as you and harry want to see it.... To use to intimidate and
bully me and my family. You have no idea how we got to that point, you
have no idea of the bills others in our second family incurred, or how
hard we are working every day to get it right AND raise our kids... But
you wouldn't care, you just need to make yourself feel better so you
take a couple out of context, uninformed facts and make up the rest...
You are a scum bag just like harry and the plum, really, get a life, and
while you are at it, get it right...



This is all he's got outside of the Saturday night cage fights with his
#2 kid on the card.


He isn't even man enough to take responsibility for it now...

And you aren't man enough to apologize to me for lying that I said
something about your family.

In article , says...

On 7/1/2012 5:03 PM, Oscar wrote:
On 7/1/2012 3:10 PM, North Star wrote:
On Jul 1, 2:06 pm, Oscar wrote:
On 7/1/2012 12:53 PM, North Star wrote:







On Jul 1, 1:27 pm, Oscar wrote:
On 7/1/2012 12:16 PM, North Star wrote:

On Jul 1, 11:35 am, JustWait wrote:
On 7/1/2012 10:16 AM, iBoaterer wrote:

In article ,
says...

On 6/30/2012 8:50 PM, North Star wrote:
On Jun 30, 9:27 pm, "Califbill"
wrote:
"North Star" wrote in message

...


On Jun 30, 1:24 pm, "Califbill"
wrote:

"iBoaterer" wrote in message

...

In article ,
says...

On Thu, 28 Jun 2012 20:28:11 -0400, BAR wrote:

If enough people opt out and simply pay the 1% tax, how
can this
system possibly work?

What am I missing?

The solution to the money problem is rationing. Welcome to
the queue.

===

That's how it is in Canada - 2 and 3 month waits to treat
conditions
that are not considered life threatening, things like
dislocated
shoulders for example.

Those are the extremes, not the norm. I was in Canada a few
years back,
camping in Algonquin and my friend split his toe open. Went
to a local
hospital and was in and out in 30 min.
-------------------------------------------
And he probably whipped out his credit card! A lot of years
ago, as we
were
returning from a ski trip to Whistler, young 20 something is
getting
aboard
the airplane with a broken bone. Do not remember if leg or
arm. She did
not have the money to pay the Canadian hospital to have it
set. So no
service. If we did that our costs would be greatly lowered
and there
would
be a huge outcry about our heartlessness. I am just home
from a trip to
the
hospital for clumsiness. Fell off the roof fixing the
solar. Ladder
slipped. They did not ask for any insurance info before the
trauma team
started working on me. In ICU The next bed had a welfare
patient and the
other side had a non English speaking man. Don't know if he
had
insurance.
So we treat everybody that shows up, No difference in care.
As to making
healthcare affordable. How? Did not increase the number of
doctors or
beds. My complaint on Roberts ruling is he sidestepped the
issues. Just
saying the act is a tax. Geese?

"whipped out his credit card"??
You must be talking about the early 60s.
In this province the wait for things like knee and hip
replacement can
be slow... But normal health issues usually get same day service
depending on the severity the problem.

-----------------------
No it was at least the 1980's. And the wait was not because
of rationing,
was because the person was not a Canadian citizen and could
not pay for the
cost of the broken bone. I had to visit the hospital in
Sorrento, Italy in
about 2000. Cracked a tooth and tooth ache. They have a
doctors office at
the hospital (PRONTO SOCCORSO or spelling something like
that) where anybody
could go no charge. If you needed more than they could do,
and you were not
a member of one of the European Health Care groups you had to
pay. We fix
you up here, no matter your citizenship or legality. They
will try to get
the money from you later, but you are fixed first. No
assets, then the rest
of us with insurance and taxes pay for your care. I think
San Diego figures
$155 million a year for medical care for illegals. A lot of
money the
taxpayers have to pay. How do you handle illegal immigrants
in Canada?

Put them up in accommodation, provide a generous living
allowance and
pay for the most expensive lawyer available to represent them.
Don't
tell Snotty!

Don, I don't know what you are thinking you are so superior
for. You
pushed a broom all your life and sat on a bar stool after..
Then you
shipped your mom off to a home and you have been talking about
spending
her money ever since... Now go get drunk and beat your fat cow,
she's
all you have left, right???

Once again showing how low you can go.

Well, then you should tell me the rules... You and your two buddies
bring me up no less than twenty times a day here, and I say
something
back, you cry... Sorry I don't spend my whole day here like you
three
(get lives, really) but I have to get it all out at once. So,
what do
you think when you spread the same lies about myself and my family
situation that harry and don make up? Guess you are the pot, I am
the
kettle...

What lies do I spread about you and your family?
Do you, or did you, have numerous judgements against you for
nonpayment of various outstanding bills...such as hospital, municipal
taxes, credit cards etc
Have you had a real job to help support your family in the past few
years?
I simply report the truth as I understand it.

If you are getting your truth from Harry, you are dumber than anyone
could possibly imagine.
Tell us again who gave you this information about Scott, which you
freely repeated here.

The great state of Connecticut.

I hesitate to call you a liar but I am compelled to unless you can
demonstrate explicitly how you came by any of that information besides
taxes. Municipalities eagerly share tax information, even yours.

Keep on hesitating!
More progressive areas than Florida will provide this
information.....maybe in the hope that the deadbeats will be ashamed
into paying up. Your question should be...was Snotty ashamed enough
to get a job and reduce these outstanding debts.


All you got is hearsay from Krause. You should be ashamed of yourself
for repeating his bull****.


No, it's partially right. I got in some trouble with a heart condition,
my wife fought off cancer, thank you very much... Got behind and we are
living on spaghetti and counting on a great sponsor to keep Jess riding
while we catch up... Either way, we are working on it, those scum revel
in folks like us having these life altering problems, it's how they make
themselves feel better about their own miserable non-accomplishments...

Wait a minute.... Cancer? And you think smoking is a good thing?

On Jul 1, 11:35 am, JustWait wrote:


No, it's partially right. I got in some trouble with a heart condition,
my wife fought off cancer, thank you very much... Got behind and we are
living on spaghetti and counting on a great sponsor to keep Jess riding
while we catch up... Either way, we are working on it, those scum revel
in folks like us having these life altering problems, it's how they make
themselves feel better about their own miserable non-accomplishments...

Oh, well, *I* wasn't aware your wife was fighting off cancer. I hope she
recovers completely.