On 7/14/2012 11:55 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
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On 7/14/2012 11:13 AM, iBoaterer wrote:

http://www.sfgate.com/business/artic...Smooth-silent-
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How much is it? I want one.

But it doesn't use fossil fuel, how could you possibly drive one? Also,
it's new technology, and in conservative's minds, that's a bad thing.


I never heard the right wing say say it won't work and but I have
heard don't spend taxpayers money trying to pick winners and losers,
let the free market figure it out.

Quote from article, "Model S prices range all the way from $57,400 to
$105,400 before state and federal incentives."

And why do I want to help someone with my tax money so they can buy a
cat that costs $75,000.

I doubt very few electric vehicles don't use fossil fuel, the electric
grid of this country uses a lot of coal and natural gas. Did you think
all the Tesla owners had solar collectors.

Have you looked at the havoc caused by mining of chemicals used to make
the batteries for electric cars?

I have an electric gokart that I built about 3 years ago.
Here's the video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MKjbXltAew&feature=plcp
I have since bought bigger better batteries and put on a new motor.
It will now go about 40 MPH.
Mikek

On 7/14/2012 8:04 PM, Tim wrote:
On Jul 14, 5:17 pm, BAR wrote:
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On 7/14/2012 12:55 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article m,
says...

On 7/14/2012 11:13 AM, iBoaterer wrote:

http://www.sfgate.com/business/artic...Smooth-silent-
fast-3706414.php

How much is it? I want one.

But it doesn't use fossil fuel, how could you possibly drive one? Also,
it's new technology, and in conservative's minds, that's a bad thing.

Way ahead of you Bozo. I have 2 electric vehicles already.

Where does the electricity come from?

45% of the electricity generated in the US comes from fossil fuels.

Should have been 75%.

OK, I said 65+... looks like i was a bit 'conservative' in my
guestimation.

Well that doesn't surprise me! :-)

Mikek

On 7/14/2012 10:35 PM, BAR wrote:
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/04/au...tery-Failures-
Make-Bricking-a-Buzzword.html?pagewanted=all

Are you kidding? A $100,000.00 paperweight.
Plug it in plug it in. But where? In all my travels, I've seen but one
electric car chargeing station.

If the Navy can launch ships that never need refueling. Why can't the
union wizards at Government Motors do the same with their cars?

On 7/15/2012 7:44 AM, X ` Man wrote:
On 7/14/12 10:12 PM, Eisboch wrote:


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On 7/14/12 6:07 PM, BAR wrote:

45% of the electricity generated in the US comes from fossil fuels.



Gee, does that mean 55 percent doesn't? Well, then, why do anything?

What are you righties so scared of?
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BAR was in error and corrected himself.

Using round numbers, 70 percent is from fossil fuels.
19 percent from nuclear reactors.
10 percent from solar, geothermal, wind, etc.







Well, then, no need to do anything...

OK then. Stop grousing about it. Concentrate on what ails you.

In article m,
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On 7/14/2012 2:39 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
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On 7/14/2012 12:56 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
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The fiscal conservatives are saying why is the government throwing
money at a car only the rich can afford? If you want to crank up
the electric car market, look at subsidies for ZAP and other cheap
around town cars. Not one where the average purchaser has a
$250,000 Adjusted Gross Income.

Again, as with all new technology, at first, it's expensive.
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How expensive? Can an ordinary middle class citizen afford one? Or is it
only for the uber rich?

It's not fair that the rich are expeced to be the ones that have be the
guinea pigs for new technology.

It's not for the uber rich but they are pricey. What is your point? I
guess if you have to ask those types of questions you have no idea how
technology R&D works.

I asked how much they cost. You no understand English?
I'll ask again; How much pricy are you talking about?

Again, moot point. But, IF you were to read the article, the cost is as
plain as day for those who can grasp what they read.

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The fiscal conservatives are saying why is the government throwing money
at
a car only the rich can afford? If you want to crank up the electric car
market, look at subsidies for ZAP and other cheap around town cars. Not
one
where the average purchaser has a $250,000 Adjusted Gross Income.

Again, as with all new technology, at first, it's expensive.

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New Technology? there were about 20 electric car companies in 1920. Got
30-50 miles on a charge then. How about supporting a $2000 electric car?

Yes, new technology. Compare the Tesla to those built in 1920 and get
back with me.

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On 7/14/2012 2:50 PM, Califbill wrote:
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The fiscal conservatives are saying why is the government throwing
money at
a car only the rich can afford? If you want to crank up the electric car
market, look at subsidies for ZAP and other cheap around town cars.
Not one
where the average purchaser has a $250,000 Adjusted Gross Income.

Again, as with all new technology, at first, it's expensive.

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New Technology? there were about 20 electric car companies in 1920.
Got 30-50 miles on a charge then. How about supporting a $2000 electric
car?


Yup, I have a friend with an electrolux, and an MB midget... Both electric.

Nope. You idiot, do you realize how far the technology has come? Compare
the new Tesla technology with the Electrolux. If you know how to
research one tiny little bit, you'll soon see that yes, the Tesla IS new
technology.

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On 7/14/2012 12:55 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article m,
says...

On 7/14/2012 11:13 AM, iBoaterer wrote:

http://www.sfgate.com/business/artic...Smooth-silent-
fast-3706414.php


How much is it? I want one.

But it doesn't use fossil fuel, how could you possibly drive one? Also,
it's new technology, and in conservative's minds, that's a bad thing.

Way ahead of you Bozo. I have 2 electric vehicles already.

Where does the electricity come from?

45% of the electricity generated in the US comes from fossil fuels.

Yes, but the point you hard core righties fail to understand is that the
equivalent fuel mileage is around 100 miles per gallon. If we get off of
our asses and build more non fossil fuel electric infrastructure that
number will go down. But stupid people are just too afraid of getting
off of fossil fuel.

In article ,
says...

"X ` Man" wrote in message
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On 7/14/12 6:07 PM, BAR wrote:

45% of the electricity generated in the US comes from fossil fuels.



Gee, does that mean 55 percent doesn't? Well, then, why do anything?

What are you righties so scared of?
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BAR was in error and corrected himself.

Using round numbers, 70 percent is from fossil fuels.
19 percent from nuclear reactors.
10 percent from solar, geothermal, wind, etc.

And that is the problem, the right wing is scared to death to wean off
of fossil fuels.

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On Sat, 14 Jul 2012 11:13:03 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:


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"Model S prices range all the way from $57,400 to $105,400 before
state and federal incentives. The silver sedan I tried would cost
about $70,000."

Yeah this is a car for the masses.

Who said it was a car for the masses right now?