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On Sat, 14 Jul 2012 11:13:03 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:


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"Model S prices range all the way from $57,400 to $105,400 before
state and federal incentives. The silver sedan I tried would cost
about $70,000."

Yeah this is a car for the masses.

Make sure you read up on the "bricking" problem that Tesla's have.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/04/au...tery-Failures-
Make-Bricking-a-Buzzword.html?pagewanted=all

And no gasoline cars have problems right? You do realize don't you, that
this is new technology, R&D is ongoing.

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On Sat, 14 Jul 2012 22:35:12 -0400, BAR wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Sat, 14 Jul 2012 11:13:03 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:


http://www.sfgate.com/business/artic...Smooth-silent-
fast-3706414.php



"Model S prices range all the way from $57,400 to $105,400 before
state and federal incentives. The silver sedan I tried would cost
about $70,000."

Yeah this is a car for the masses.

Make sure you read up on the "bricking" problem that Tesla's have.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/04/au...tery-Failures-
Make-Bricking-a-Buzzword.html?pagewanted=all


I am really surprised that the lefties are not up in arms about this
1%er welfare and corporate subsidy.

Some guy who can pony up the money for a hundred grand car is getting
a handout from the feds of $30k plus whatever the state will match.

It's called R&D. Have you ever considered the handouts NASA had a hand
in? Great stuff came from them, too.

On 7/15/2012 7:48 AM, amdx wrote:
On 7/14/2012 11:55 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article m,
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On 7/14/2012 11:13 AM, iBoaterer wrote:

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How much is it? I want one.

But it doesn't use fossil fuel, how could you possibly drive one? Also,
it's new technology, and in conservative's minds, that's a bad thing.


I never heard the right wing say say it won't work and but I have
heard don't spend taxpayers money trying to pick winners and losers,
let the free market figure it out.

Quote from article, "Model S prices range all the way from $57,400 to
$105,400 before state and federal incentives."

And why do I want to help someone with my tax money so they can buy a
cat that costs $75,000.

I doubt very few electric vehicles don't use fossil fuel, the electric
grid of this country uses a lot of coal and natural gas. Did you think
all the Tesla owners had solar collectors.

Have you looked at the havoc caused by mining of chemicals used to make
the batteries for electric cars?

I have an electric gokart that I built about 3 years ago.
Here's the video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MKjbXltAew&feature=plcp
I have since bought bigger better batteries and put on a new motor.
It will now go about 40 MPH.
Mikek



You misspelled a word. Cat should be paperweight.

In article om,
says...

On 7/14/2012 10:35 PM, BAR wrote:
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/04/au...tery-Failures-
Make-Bricking-a-Buzzword.html?pagewanted=all

Are you kidding? A $100,000.00 paperweight.
Plug it in plug it in. But where? In all my travels, I've seen but one
electric car chargeing station.

If the Navy can launch ships that never need refueling. Why can't the
union wizards at Government Motors do the same with their cars?

Where do you charge your "two electric cars" then?

On 7/15/2012 7:32 AM, Meyer wrote:
On 7/15/2012 7:48 AM, amdx wrote:
On 7/14/2012 11:55 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article m,
says...

On 7/14/2012 11:13 AM, iBoaterer wrote:

http://www.sfgate.com/business/artic...Smooth-silent-
fast-3706414.php


How much is it? I want one.

But it doesn't use fossil fuel, how could you possibly drive one? Also,
it's new technology, and in conservative's minds, that's a bad thing.


I never heard the right wing say say it won't work and but I have
heard don't spend taxpayers money trying to pick winners and losers,
let the free market figure it out.

Quote from article, "Model S prices range all the way from $57,400 to
$105,400 before state and federal incentives."

And why do I want to help someone with my tax money so they can buy a
cat that costs $75,000.

I doubt very few electric vehicles don't use fossil fuel, the electric
grid of this country uses a lot of coal and natural gas. Did you think
all the Tesla owners had solar collectors.

Have you looked at the havoc caused by mining of chemicals used to make
the batteries for electric cars?

I have an electric gokart that I built about 3 years ago.
Here's the video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MKjbXltAew&feature=plcp
I have since bought bigger better batteries and put on a new motor.
It will now go about 40 MPH.
Mikek



You misspelled a word. Cat should be paperweight.

Ok, it should say,
"And why do I want to help someone with my tax money so they can buy
a car that costs $75,000."
Thank goodness for the find function, I didn't know what you were
referencing.
Mikek

On 7/15/2012 8:29 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

In article ,
says...

On Sat, 14 Jul 2012 11:13:03 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:


http://www.sfgate.com/business/artic...Smooth-silent-
fast-3706414.php



"Model S prices range all the way from $57,400 to $105,400 before
state and federal incentives. The silver sedan I tried would cost
about $70,000."

Yeah this is a car for the masses.

Make sure you read up on the "bricking" problem that Tesla's have.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/04/au...tery-Failures-
Make-Bricking-a-Buzzword.html?pagewanted=all

And no gasoline cars have problems right? You do realize don't you, that
this is new technology, R&D is ongoing.

What sort of new technology have you invested in?

On 7/15/2012 8:19 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article m,
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On 7/14/2012 2:39 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article om,
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On 7/14/2012 12:56 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
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The fiscal conservatives are saying why is the government throwing
money at a car only the rich can afford? If you want to crank up
the electric car market, look at subsidies for ZAP and other cheap
around town cars. Not one where the average purchaser has a
$250,000 Adjusted Gross Income.

Again, as with all new technology, at first, it's expensive.
t
How expensive? Can an ordinary middle class citizen afford one? Or is it
only for the uber rich?

It's not fair that the rich are expeced to be the ones that have be the
guinea pigs for new technology.

It's not for the uber rich but they are pricey. What is your point? I
guess if you have to ask those types of questions you have no idea how
technology R&D works.

I asked how much they cost. You no understand English?
I'll ask again; How much pricy are you talking about?

Again, moot point. But, IF you were to read the article, the cost is as
plain as day for those who can grasp what they read.

You must not be much of a grasper if you couldn't answer the question.

On 7/15/2012 8:20 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
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The fiscal conservatives are saying why is the government throwing money
at
a car only the rich can afford? If you want to crank up the electric car
market, look at subsidies for ZAP and other cheap around town cars. Not
one
where the average purchaser has a $250,000 Adjusted Gross Income.

Again, as with all new technology, at first, it's expensive.

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New Technology? there were about 20 electric car companies in 1920. Got
30-50 miles on a charge then. How about supporting a $2000 electric car?

Yes, new technology. Compare the Tesla to those built in 1920 and get
back with me.

I couldn't find any reports about any of the 1920's cars bricking. Telsa
must be on the cutting edge of car bricking. How much you gots invested?

In article om,
says...

On 7/15/2012 8:29 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

In article ,
says...

On Sat, 14 Jul 2012 11:13:03 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:


http://www.sfgate.com/business/artic...Smooth-silent-
fast-3706414.php



"Model S prices range all the way from $57,400 to $105,400 before
state and federal incentives. The silver sedan I tried would cost
about $70,000."

Yeah this is a car for the masses.

Make sure you read up on the "bricking" problem that Tesla's have.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/04/au...tery-Failures-
Make-Bricking-a-Buzzword.html?pagewanted=all

And no gasoline cars have problems right? You do realize don't you, that
this is new technology, R&D is ongoing.

What sort of new technology have you invested in?

Actually quite a bit. Most of my stocks are in technology.

In article om,
says...

On 7/15/2012 8:19 AM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article m,
says...

On 7/14/2012 2:39 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article om,
says...

On 7/14/2012 12:56 PM, iBoaterer wrote:
In article ,
says...

"iBoaterer" wrote in message
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http://www.sfgate.com/business/artic...Smooth-silent-


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The fiscal conservatives are saying why is the government throwing
money at a car only the rich can afford? If you want to crank up
the electric car market, look at subsidies for ZAP and other cheap
around town cars. Not one where the average purchaser has a
$250,000 Adjusted Gross Income.

Again, as with all new technology, at first, it's expensive.
t
How expensive? Can an ordinary middle class citizen afford one? Or is it
only for the uber rich?

It's not fair that the rich are expeced to be the ones that have be the
guinea pigs for new technology.

It's not for the uber rich but they are pricey. What is your point? I
guess if you have to ask those types of questions you have no idea how
technology R&D works.

I asked how much they cost. You no understand English?
I'll ask again; How much pricy are you talking about?

Again, moot point. But, IF you were to read the article, the cost is as
plain as day for those who can grasp what they read.

You must not be much of a grasper if you couldn't answer the question.

Well sure I can.